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On the premiere of Love and Hip Hop: Atlanta last night, rapper and radio personality Yung Joc, now going as Joc, and fiancée Kendra Robinson, found themselves at odds over her insistence that he get a vasectomy to make the chances of them conceiving a child slim to none. As a woman who has made it clear that she doesn’t want to have children, it makes sense that she would want to take whatever necessary means to ensure that he wouldn’t impregnate her, and considering he already has eight children, she believes he’s had all the children he needs to have.

But on the opposite side of that, Joc is not ashamed. He believes that he is a good father to his many children, and while he’s accepted that Kendra doesn’t want children, he doesn’t want his testicles cut open and his vas deferens blocked because of a decision she’s made for herself. It is unclear if that’s because he is physically uncomfortable with what would be required for a procedure he is not set on getting, or if it’s because he truly doesn’t want to not be able to have children. Based on his comments during Monday’s premiere (“I don’t know if I want to be known as the guy who can’t have kids anymore”), and the clear discomfort shown at the doctor’s office, it’s likely a bit of both.

I could understand it though, especially since Kendra is going about encouraging him to get the procedure in a very pressure-filled, somewhat selfish way. When they went to the doctor’s office, she spoke for them, saying “we” want the vasectomy. And when he showed hesitation, she got upset.

“I feel like it’s selfish. If you really love me, if you really want to consider, my body, my mind and the longevity of our relationship, then you will at least put forth some effort,” she said in hr confessional. “I feel like he’s getting cold feet.”

But when he flipped the situation on her and asked why she won’t get her tubes tied instead, she wasn’t feeling that idea. Instead, she sort of insulted him, saying, “So you want to have child number nine and 10, so you can figure out to have time for those children like you’re trying to find time to have for the children you already have. I think that’s cruel.”

“I’m not trying to be irresponsible with my reproductive organs,” she added.

But why can’t she consider it if she’s the one who’s so passionate about the couple forgoing children? Maybe it’s because she’s not. The fact that early on in the episode she talked about how she forgot to take her birth control pill as though that were the straw that broke the camel’s back for him to get snipped doesn’t give the impression she’s prudent about the precautions necessary to avoid pregnancy.

And really, her stance on the situation makes one wonder if she really doesn’t want to have children, or she really, really just doesn’t want to have his children. (Or, maybe she wants to make sure he doesn’t have kids with anyone else?)

As a successful lawyer who said she’s often trying to tell him certain things to do and change for the advancement of them as a couple, it’s not the best look to have so much going for you and marry a man with eight children. She may be, by pushing him to be the one to have the surgical procedure, unknowingly punishing him for having so many children by so many women before her. So instead of her having her tubes tied, which can also be not 100 percent effective, she could feel like he created the inconvenient situation, so he should be the one to deal with it.

But Kendra knew he had all of those kids when she started dealing with him. Hell, we all knew he wasn’t a saint when he joined Love and Hip Hop Atlanta years ago before they started dating. So instead of trying to make him be someone different, including down there, she could just be more vigilant about her birth control, opt to look into sterilization for herself, or go find her someone who is on the same page whom she won’t have to pressure into going under the knife…or feel a tad embarrassed by.

Check out the reactions to Joc and Kendra’s situation via Twitter by hitting the flip:

There were some people who believe that Kendra isn’t 100 percent hell-bent on not having children, but like I noted, she just doesn’t want to have kids with him. Some think she’s trying to keep her options open if she and Joc somehow didn’t work out.

“Kendra trying to say it’s selfish of Joc for not wanting to get a vasectomy because he has 8 kids…but i think it’s selfish of her for trying to make him get it when it’s HER who is so adamant on not wanting kids,” a Twitter user commented. “GET YOUR TUBES TIED KENDRA.” 

On the other hand, there are definitely people who were confused as to why after having eight children, and seeing how fertile he is, Joc wouldn’t want to go ahead and get a vasectomy.

Joc u got 8000 kids wtf u need your baby making balls for??” one woman commented. 

Some on Twitter noted that her persistence that he not only get a vasectomy, but take serious other major life decisions, like 401k and life insurance, prove he’s found a woman very much unlike the ones he’s used to.

“Kendra is a smart woman, I think Joc met his match with her,” someone commented. “She’s focused on building and actually having goals.”

There were a few people who felt like it shouldn’t always be on the women to get themselves handled down there, and in this case, with him having plenty of kids already, some felt it’s the least Joc could do.

Joc…. ni–a if you don’t go get tf snipped,” a person commented. “Like ain’t nobody got time for double digit kid 1 and double digit kid 2 when you already have PLENTY, that you even stated you don’t get enough time with.”

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Some people also wondered if Kendra was actually concerned about Joc stepping out on her and bringing back even more children for her to have to deal with.

“Now while I do agree that Joc does not need anymore children, if Kendra is so set on not having any for herself why wouldn’t she consider getting a tubal ligation?” a commenter asked. “Or is she really worried about Joc bringing her some outside babies?”

A few commenters said that Kendra should go ahead and consider having her tubes tied since she seems soooo set on not having kids.

She seems sure that she never wants kids- whether she stays with Joc or not, so she should have the procedure. That way, IF they break up, Joc is free to have baby Seb’mteefive if he wants…..”

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Some feel like while Kendra may have gone about things a tad aggressively, she is just trying to avoid having a house full of kids running around.

Joc sweetie you got too many f–king kids with too much baby momma drama get that f–king vasectomy,” said another very stern commenter. 

Kendra was called “selfish” and “controlling” by viewers after last night’s episode. One commenter even mentioned the last time someone opened up on national TV about making such a decision because someone else wanted them to and how it backfired.

“Joc bet not snip his stuff,” a commenter said. “We saw what Neyo’s ex went through getting her tubes burned because he wanted her to. Kendra is controlling and Joc better not give in.”

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While some people felt it was time for Joc to give it a rest on the babymaking, there were people who could get where both he and Kendra were coming from.

“I understand both sides,” someone commented. “It’s selfish of Joc to want Kendra to have more kids when he already has a basketball team. But Kendra shouldn’t force him to snip his snap.”