10 Things I Can’t Stand About “Educated” Black People

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October 28, 2013 ‐ By
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Almost two months ago, I had a pre-dinner with one of my friends from middle school. I call it a pre dinner because shortly after, she was meeting one of her friends from college to have a full, proper dinner. Just so happens, in college I was in an internship program with this girl, so I said hello and reminded her of this fact. After I explained how we were all “connected,” she said, “Isn’t it amazing how all educated, black people are just one degree away from another educated, black person?” After I walked away from this woman and my friend, I found myself feeling a way about the “educated, black people” label. This was over a month ago, and up until now, I couldn’t quite figure out what it was about that phrase that didn’t sit so well with me. But today, I found the answer. I was scrolling through my Facebook timeline, and stumbled across this rather old article: “27 Things Educated, Black People Like.”  There was that phrase again. I clicked to see what it was about and while there were several things that I do indeed enjoy, like Neo Soul, weddings, mega churches, dressing up, and advanced degrees, I found there were several things that “educated, black people” stereotypically do and enjoy that I just can’t get down with…

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  • Andiamo P

    Things I don’t like about Educated Black People: Referring to themselves Educated Black People.

    What?!?

  • Squeek

    uhmm.. i have to say.. i congratulate you for playing your cards well :)

    CONGRATULATIONS.. or a taboo topic/blog that will attract all the non-intelligent people to this blog with opinions.. and more opinions about things that are ultimately irrelevant to anything – and of course generate a nice amount of money from google. :) …. i know two white people that are doing just that and are cashing in over 3k a month (taboo blogs only) – i myself, will copy and paste your useless blog and change it a little bit.. and collect on the revenue – keep up the good work.. keep the masses busy with a silly topic. As for the rest of us.. smile.. agitate the sheep/cattle, and let them make us some money.

    I do want to express a certain feeling of disappointment.. it’s sad the amount of money i make of bunch of idiotic religion/race related post, that i usually get somewhere else as opposed to my first internet blogs that explains how to solve a quadratic formula, how to solve for the square root without a calculator, or that explains in detail some recursive algorithm..

    Make sure you post another similar post, about 10 things you hate about Allah/Mohammed/Moses or some other indoctrinated keyword.. just change a word here and there.. :) and of course pretend to be some sort of Yallah Yallah.. to make your post socially acceptable or course.. or else it will frowned upon

    cheers

  • John smith

    This article should’ve been entitled ten things i don’t understand about arrogant black people.

  • Youonlyliveonce

    Sorry, but i have to distance myself from hoodlum uneducated blacks and people in general who talk like they have not read a single book. Im sure most people do.

  • Morty

    #11: No matter how knowledgeable and intelligent an educated black person is, they still undermine their authority by pronouncing words using “f” instead of “th,” Maybe it’s a birf defect.

  • Red

    Ok, these are annoying things EVERY ONE does, not just educated black people. This article is so stupid and is a rant about nothing.

  • IChoseThisName

    WOW! People below are actually arguing over names!? Insane? Name your child anything you want. Why not make up a name? Why follow the same foot steps of everyone else? What the Hell is wrong with being different? I don’t give a damn if someone does judge me. They’ll find something to judge one way or another.

  • Douglas Hamner

    One of the biggest misconceptions is that if you act in a civilized manner consistent with the actions of 80% of the American populace that you are somehow acting white…

    There is no “white” culture in America….because white people is a broad term that covers the inhabitants of four dozen cultures covering three continents. What the many of the various cultures in America including white people, Asians, northern Africans and just about every other non black culture in this country realized is the need to integrate into a unique “American culture”. Unfortunate my the failure of African Americans to integrate is a result of a century of segregation that poisoned the mindset of both races, white folks are coming out of it…as the old racists die off. But people like this author seem to perpetuate the mindset in the African american community that they are different when they are not. Every other race and culture in this culture gets it…but black folks.

  • John

    Wow… White people are so much different. Why is everything in life come back to the race card. I mean I am mixed but still was taught to judge a person by their actions. I have friends of all races and love them equally. Maybe I would understand this a lot better if slavery was still alive, but it’s not. So when all goes wrong and mistakes are made you can still blame others for your mistakes. And then say that all whites are racist and speak from ignorance. I’m not white but my wife is, so this gives me insight on how we are all the same just different ways of expression. My father a black man does not get along with me cause I chose to see people for who they are and resulted in marriage with a race different from both of mine. My opinion to love someone is to forgive and understand them. My dad hates whites and treats my kids different too. And my brother and sisters kids are on the level of greatness because they married black partners. So how are you suppose to look at things when your blinded from your own views and do not see what the others do.

    • KamJos

      What happened after slavery? People forget after that there were years of segregation followed by entrenched racism. It is not over. Your dad probably hates the fact that he raised a child that carries his genes yet is oblivious to his racial struggles.

  • Betty Nyanng

    For me a name is just a name its the personality behind the name that matters, though most parents think that the names they give to their children actually determine to some extent what/ whom they become.

  • Jameelah

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  • Jameelah

    This one stinks…lol…itS universal law that you surround yourself with people who are doing in life what you would like to be doing. That’s how i choose my acquaintances, not by race…If you choose substance over skin color, you will find yourself experiencing life through the eyes of your spirit and not marginalized ideals. Blacks only make up 13% of the population so you’re gonna have to learn how to be around other types of people and learn how to be the only black person in some settings if you ever want to truly grow. Diversity is good for you. I don’t participate in anything that lendS its self to one race and excludes others, no matter what it is… THE WHOLE WORLD IS NOT BLACK…YOU’RE WORLD IS TOO SMALL IF ALLLLLL OF YOUR FRIENDS ARE BLACK.

  • Jameelah

    all names had to be made up at some point, nothing worst than blacks arguing about stuff like this and Africans being prejudice against african americans…lol the outside world sees us all the same, its the skin, its bold beautiful and should unite us but instead many play the same anglo superioritiy games that have made us turn against each other since before slavery begin. I’m disappointed with the comments.

    Also, what if people just don’t like those names. I don’t. But i don’t necessarily love names like John and Amy, your race does not decide what names you choose. This is all a bit too marginalized for me. In the real world nobody cares.

  • DebBTheLioness

    Too many abortions. If it wasn’t for our ‘lesser educated’ women, we would be extinct.

  • Billy

    You said: “Stop smelling yourself, your event is not that popular.” And you want me to treat you like an adult? You will always be a second class citizen, until the day you die a nobody second-class corpse

  • Billy

    Man, this was a tough read. Reading this felt similar to listening to a homeless guy tell you he just needs $4 for the bus, when you know the bus costs $1.75. Every point you were so proud of yourself for making was completely laughable. You have done nothing but reinforce that an “Educated black person” is about equivalent to a three year old white toddler

  • Jr Andrews

    This article is one of the dumbest articles online. If your sub -par … i would suggest my children distance themselves from those people. Black America in general are satisfied with no progression. We are a nation of followers. I was taught to be the exception . So yes Im a black male …Im educated …my name is Kenneth… no i dont want to hang out with you in your hood ( been there grew up made it out ) and in closing if your name sounds like a medicine , then it proves your parents were uneducated or they would have had sense enough to provide you with a name with meaning .

  • MisterNegan

    Sounds more like you just have a problem with new elitists. Because I’ve seen a lot of this same behavior from whites that go from working class to upper class too.

  • Elijah Coleman

    One problem I see with the term “educated black person” is the fact that the education needs to be pointed out specifically in order to be sure you’re clear about who you’re talking about. When you peel back the assumptions behind this need for specificity, you see that the assumption is that a black person is *not* educated. If “educated black people” is a subset of “black people,” then the majority of black people are, by implication, uneducated. The term itself reinforces the stereotype. By contrast, you don’t hear the term “educated white person” nearly as often as “uneducated white person,” leading to the conclusion that the assumptions are reversed for white people.

  • So Sad

    Wow, this article was written by an extremely insecure and ignorant person. This article is riddled with stereotypes on both sides. I don’t see how this is productive at all and it is just embarrassing to read. How can you just clump one group of people who have skin color and education (in the broadest sense) into one way of thinking and living? Wow! To not see this as completely insane and unproductive, even harmful, is so very sad. This should just be taken off the internet. The End.

  • Jennifer Ebunilo

    i have to type that way. How else will you understand me seeing as u dont speak the white mans language and all. Nigerian was colonized by the English. UMMM wasnt AMERICA the same way??

    “I’m not from Nigeria where women and girls are the targets of domestic violence, sexual abuse, and psychological abuse.”
    “that’s why you and your
    family have come to America to experience how good the other blacks have
    been living”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! youve been living good??? since when?? during slavery? Jim Crow? now????? come on… even you dont believe that. If you did, why NAACP? why BET? if ya so good and equal, why so butt-hurt when other races use the N-word (that word means nothing to me)… again i say jealous. Dual citizen where two countries welcomed me with open arms and ur one and only cant stand u.. must be sad to be you

    How i turned my skin so light and bright?? -______- really? baby this is genetics and God. u just keep proving my point on ignorance.

    PS: never said anything bad about white people. sweetie thats allll you. and Igbo is my tribe not my name. Do you have a passport? have u left this country? i super doubt it..

    • Kris

      I wish all people were like you. Everyone should be proud of their origins but at the same time respect everyone else.

  • whyblacksuck

    Because of the black culture (NOT COLOR like you racists love to throw out), would you like to have your son or daughter sitting next to a hoodlum while on the bus their first day of school and for the entire year? No right because we are SMART and understand the chances that their black understanding of life will ruin the realistic hopes and dreams of an average child.

  • blackPROBLEM

    The American black culture is horrendous. In this case the culture is
    tied to the race and the race is in the country of America. People
    commonly mistake race when they mean culture, but in this case it’s the
    same thing, 99% of the time. Their culture has killed the blacks and
    their ability to assimilate to other cultures. They are an abomination.

    • Jameelah

      stop watching tv…

  • Kristen

    This article is what I can’t stand about educated black people..

    • guest

      Yes!! It should not have been written in the first place.

  • Joyous56

    What I can’t stand about educated black people is when they speak and behave like they are uneducated, fresh from the hood, in order not to alienate their ‘brothers and sisters’ who don’t have an education, cannot use proper English, and can’t be bothered to treat people with respect.

    So, you’re an ‘educated black person’. What’s to be ashamed of, and why would you want to be something less than you are, just so you won’t be in danger of being called an ‘Uncle Tom’.

    Now you know better. Don’t hide that fact.

  • Bigbootyhoenisha

    I have 7 beautiful kids: Weavisha, Quadeequa, Nomoneyisha, Brokeastisha, Nofatherisha Hoodratisha and Ashley. And guess who holds the PHd in our hom Nofatherisha! What is a rose by any other name?

  • Renee Fourman

    It sounds like you article could be summarized as the traits of pompous, pretentious, parsimonious fools who happen to be black and went to college. Lets be honest, other ethnicities have the same problem.

  • mfg

    This article sucked.

  • Youknowwhatiitis

    This is a wonderfully written article. There’s a certain snobbiness that comes along with “educated” negroes, and I know this because I’m in their circles all of the time. It’s not that serious booboo. I’m working on my masters and I behave exactly the same way I did when I was pursuing my first bachelors.

    • Jameelah

      you should be growing…

  • John Sloan

    I found this article during a google search – trying to find out if well-educated and well-spoken black people are treated better than less well educated, less eloquent black people by the legal system. (I still don’t have an answer to this question.)

    I’m not black myself, but I’m not racist either. Right now, I’m just trying to find the truth about these things.

    The first thing that jumped out at me about this article was in the second point – “Living their lives according to the politics of respectability”
    Personally, I don’t understand the whole n-word thing. What other culture do you know of that uses a blanket ‘nickname’ for everyone in their group? Isn’t that racist? And since when is conforming to your cultures norms considered ‘being your true self’?
    I mean, imagine if any other subculture in American went around calling all the members of their group by a specific, set nickname. In my opinion, it dehumanizes and stigmatizes a person to call them by such a ‘nickname’. Pretty much everyone is given a name at birth (or soon after) – why not use that when referring to them?
    (As for ‘black’ names – I have no problem with that. Sometimes a unique name can be more memorable, which can be helpful in certain kinds business situations.)

    “Referring to themselves as educated black people” – I think that’s an insult to the ‘black people’ that you consider ‘uneducated’. (Whos fault is it if someone doesn’t have access to a stable environment and education? It’s certainly not the individuals fault, and we should be looking for solutions anyway, not a scapegoat.)
    I completely agree with your point – “another part of the problem is that when we educated, black folk make it, we completely forget about those who haven’t “arrived” yet?”
    I think instead of distancing yourself from your community, use your ‘leverage’ to help your community. Nobody wants to be poor and isolated – education helps people in more ways than just financially. Lifelong learning enriches day-to-day life.

    “my motivation to correct others has been less about educating them and more about proving how much I know.”
    I think many ‘educated’ people have similar experiences, regardless of race. It frustrates me when I see people coming out of college thinking they’re ‘done’ being educated and ready to work. As far as I can tell, work is just another form of learning, and education is a lifelong process.

    Sorry if I seem to be changing the discussion, but I see these problems as a symptom of your situation, not of your race. I believe that honest discussion can help us all become more sensitive to each other, and help everyone to accept themselves and cherish their differences. (If we were all the same, there wouldn’t be much room for discussion, would there?)

    • Juan Martin

      To answer your initial question. Yes, I am.

  • AJW

    This is a disgrace. I’m saying this as not an educated black man. Fine I won’t use educated black man fair enough. However, I’m speaking as an educated young man period. Why can’t we just embrace our interracial differences and stop this divide in the black community. It’s publications like this that’s a reminder of how dysfunctional we truly are and how we need to do a better job at coming together. I know how to find common ground with people in the hood and win their respect with for my intellectual ability so why not reciprocate. This is not the legacy Dr. Martin Luther King wanted.

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  • Michael

    as this article describes it, black people sound an whole lot like white people

  • Crabtree Nick

    Not all “hood” names are equal. I can respect calling a woman Shanequa or a man Darnell.
    Velneeza, Femayla, LaMarkwon. Come on. There’s a difference. The same goes for people of any other group. Most German-Americans aren’t going to name their newborn Otto or Helga. There’s nothing wrong with either name. But the kid’s gotta live with it, after all.
    And not too many CEOs of banks or aerospace companies are named Precious LaQuesha Jones or Tyrance Meshawn Washington. Just sayin’.

    • Jameelah

      that doesn’t mean they cant do it…

  • Mary Kaye

    Except for the “hood name” controversy, everything on this list could apply to any college grad of any race, and has. And considering what white celebrities are naming their kids these days, I’m sure their fans and followers are already following suit so the name issue will be just the same. Only different.

    I saw this the same way Missy did – as a way to cut down educated black people. I’m just surprised it comes from an educated black person.

  • TruNYC

    Seems like self-respect is something else you don’t like.

  • kevin

    Who ever wrote this article should have named it “Ten Things I Hate About Myself” because first off, EVERYONE WHO IS HIGHLY EDUCATED ACTS THIS WAY. Do you know how whites act towards other whites with no education? Did you list how Any highly educated people within a particular race act against uneducated from the same race? I can’t stand people like you. Over rationalizing others.

    • valentino

      Thank you Kevin!! All my life I have been accused of acting “white”. Thank goodness our mother taught us to speak/act properly. That lesson was worth it’s weight in gold! None of this is exclusive to white people. The author of this article is just a hater. I have always considered myself EQUAL so there was no need for me to “fit in”. People can sense an inferiority complex. This author is wearing hers on her forehead!

      • Jameelah

        yes!!!!!!

  • nevergonnagetit

    “.. basically the theory behind respectability politics is that a person can overcome racism by behaving in ways that have been approved or co-signed by the majority, white folks.”

    This idea that respectability (as defined by the majority culture) isn’t a worthy goal is part of the problem with the whole conversation. By definition respectability requires the participation of others.

    Do you think successful white folks don’t pressure their children to conform to majority expectations? Do you think white parents teach their kids they can run around saying, “What’s up motherf@#$er?!” and still succeed as a professional in any field? “Oh sure little Johnny! You can wear that wife beater shirt to your job interview. Be true to yourself. So what if they can’t accept you for who you are? Waffle House is hiring.”

    What we fail to understand is that it isn’t racism if white people don’t like you because you use the n-word or your pants are dragging the ground. If you think it is then you need to call us educated black people racists too. Because it’s true, once we’ve made it, we don’t know you any more. Maybe it’s elitism. Whatever derogatory label you want to assign it, it’s a recognition of what is required to be successful in the current world and a willingness to do the things it takes to reach your goals, including abandoning the lie that you’re a traitor if you behave like a president.

    I teach my children that being true to yourself does not necessarily include any allegiance to a media fabricated, nebulous, black culture. It involves understanding your own heart and your own goals. It involves making choices that further those goals.

    • Elle L

      I am clapping, that was a thing of beauty. So true! :)

  • assclapisha

    Having the name Assclapisha Jones did not hold me back at all. I received my Massa degree in 2010. Now I am a licenced weave technologist. My uppity cousin Linda thinks she all dat because she is getting a raise at a fortune 500 company and living in a town that is virtually safe,. Sell out ho. I stay in the hood with real nxxggaz my baby daddies are sexing in jail but my we’ve degree keeps me paid

    • TruNYC

      Oh no yu di int !

  • ocayaro

    I watched a movie once, can’t quite remember the name. In it this white guys was talking to a friend and there came walking towards them this black guy. The white guy stops in their banter and says to the friend something to the effect: “I bet you that he’ll let you know he has a Ph.D in the very first sentence”. Hey presto, indeed that’s what happened. It turns out it was neither some very relevant (may I say that?), nor practical title for this guy (he was still jobless). I myself had a friend, sadly late from chronic alcoholism, who held a Ph.D in Literature. I tell you, at every opportunity, it seemed, his conversation revolved around his friends or acquaintances with doctoral degrees. He would say the term with some relish. I will tell you this: he left NO real and lasting legacy – in terms of the outputs that one would have expected of his education status. No novel, no short-story, no journal article. I would have expected the author of the piece, Veronica Wells, to have focused on a more serious aspect as this than to talk about the names that we our children.

    • Bklyn Diamond

      You will find people like that in every race. From either their families pedigree to their degrees.

      The problem I have (can’t read the article as it won’t load properly) is that once a black person becomes educated and starts carrying themselves in a way that is different from the “hood” everyone wants to take their “black card” or call them an uncle tom or have a problem. Case in point Stacy Dash. I may not agree with her, but she has a right to her opinion and should be allowed to share it without her “blackness” being questioned.

    • Jameelah

      the only reason why this is a conversation is because when someone has a phd, it makes others uncomfortable…if thats his surroundings, who or what else should he be talking about?…the same way it is when you are a mommy and housewife, everything you talk about will be related to YOUR reality, and it would only make someone uncomfortable if they too wanted a family and thought you were rubbing it in their face…but let people talk about what they please, why does it matter if he mentions his degree, it makes no difference in the conversation for others, unless like i said, you care…I don’t lead with my profession, but i don’t worry about people who do, thats their thing, that may be all they have holding them together…you don’t know what people are going through on the inside…

  • Alrighty…

    I understand the need for humility in our community, but I don’t appreciate being stereotyped by this article. Our community is in a fragile place, and I understand that pretentious people can be annoying….but I will tell you now that we do not all act like this. And sure, many of us are privileged….but several of us did not start privilege. And as someone who attended UPenn (an Ivy League institution), there is NOTHING wrong with identifying as an educated black person. The only reason we feel the need to do this is because the media will have you thinking that the “educated black man” and “educated black woman” DO NOT EXIST. So please be happy that we are out here letting people know that education is a priority in our community.

    The last point I will make is that this constant division within our community makes me very sad from both sides. For the brothers and sisters who do distance themselves from those they deem “too good for” AND for those who are hating on black people with degrees, please STOP…from both ends. This division was the original goal of the slavemaster…We have got to do better about being supportive of one another. The only way we can rise as a people is to stop alienating each other and use our networks to uplift and further each other. Just my two cents.

  • April Lamba

    Another Black American (probably an avid support of Obama, whom HARDLY surrounds himself with uneducated black people) who demonizes Black professionals, academics and DECENT citizens. Everything she wrote above is exactly what other successful people in other races do! So when a black person is successful and does have a hood name (which she calls black, oh I guess Martin Luther King isn’t a black name? He should’ve ghetto-ed it up THEN he would be black!). Ghetto/hood name = ghetto/hood upbringing PERIOD!
    I prefer a professional black surgeon or educator or Don Lemon & Bill Cosby (avidly against black hood culture) over this writer or Black celebrities like Nene ANYDAY (they do MUCH more for the black community).

    Saggy Pants are from prison culture! Why would you want your race to associate with prisons?? Why not aspire to have activist and professionals (like MLK) like other races want!!

  • Ethan Brisby

    For the most part these things are about class and not race. Class ascension is one of the externalities of a quality education.

  • jasminepowers

    I’ll just add this “blerd” thing. That, too, drives me nuts. Also, folks including me in this “educated, black folk”, “blerd” otherwise known as “approved to enter my presence” circle. Balance and normalcy is key…Chill.

  • Bditd1

    I appreciate the conversation this article generates. I wonder: Do people think that class is the last taboo of Black cultural authenticity? Do differences in class socialization within the Black community make our collectivity harder to come by?

    • J Mc

      I’m glad you said this! It really gives me something to think about.

  • dusttracks

    I LOVE this! It’s so true!

    As a person with a college degree, I’ve enjoyed opportunities and experiences that a lot of people haven’t. Yay! Bills, paid!

    I deal with educated Black people every day, and most of them are so concerned with appearances and enunciation that they can’t even focus on getting the job done. Sorry folks! That has been my experience.

    Give me the ‘hood any day! Real people dealing with real life. What you see is what you get. Furthermore, if we focused on building Black businesses, we wouldn’t have to worry about giving our children the ‘right’ names, because we’d be working for ourselves!!!

    And if you think that the key to life and happiness is a damned degree and membership in some dumb fraternity or sorority, I feel very sorry for you.

    The biggest mistake that the best and brightest from the Black community continue to make is that of taking on the values and concerns of his oppressor.

    Peace out!!

  • mojo

    Black names vs. hood names…there is a difference…period! For instance Darius can be considered a black name (as well as other races), however Damonte is a hood name. This does not mean that names make us because we are responsible for that. My mother didn’t name any of us under hood names, our names consist of french/irish. The funny thing is my cousins do have hood names and the funnier thing is that they live in the hood and do hood things. This doesn’t mean that anyone with hood names do, yet I find it ironic or vice versa…

  • ldd79

    I truly believe that many of you who are offended because of the name comments have a right to be offended but you also have to realize that whether you want to believe it or not your name does help dictate how individuals treat you and what their first impression is before they even meet you. Its not that someone name shaquawn is demeaning in any way but because of our own people and the media these names have developed negative connotations, in many instances yes this can be misinterpreted, and yes the person can be very intelligent but i would put my life savings onit that no matter what color the employer was, if there is one resume that belonged to shyquan and one with Brittany, both ladies are equally educated degrees the whole 9, the black woman named Brittany would have a edge a greater chance of getting that job than the other. What many dont understand your name is your representative of who your are, it starts your first impression, i get that no dont loose your sense of expression, but also we know what world we live in. I know caucasions named Jaginda ,shawnda etc. They get the same reaction. So its not just black people that are looked down upon because of the names we pick, but with comedians and shows etc, how do you think it gotout there in the public that these names are not acceptable? Lets think about this before we try to completely always try to blame others for decisions we fully are aware of , that are not recieved well in the society. Being educated has nothing to do with it. Education makes you more aware, dont be mad because individuals understand the world we live in and make decisions to help make thr journy a lil easier for their children.

  • N. Satiable

    Also, I was in Jack and Jill and we were taught to treat everyone the way you want to be treated. We did all kinds of community service projects to give back to those who weren’t as fortunte as we were. I still do to this day. Lastly…the names…yes, most employers do stereotype the names. We cannot control that. And yes, I have questioned parents about their choice of names. Even heard Rickey Smiley do the same thing. WHY do this to your child? Kids will make fun of the name so why not go biblical to get a name? Is there anything wrong with Ruth? Esther? Candace(yes Candace is in the bible) Mary? Joseph? Peter? David? Saul? I can go on but little Bre’Shanikk’A breathes stereotype. We have it hard enough as it is because the common/ghetto fabulous folks make ALL African Americans look bad. We may not make the rule but we can surely play the game and win.

  • N. Satiable

    What a stupid article. As an Edcuated Man, I find this article written from the angle of being unfairly treated by someone who is educated. Not all of us “educated folk” act like this.

  • J.Nicole

    I get the satire (I hope that’s what it is) but the people described in this article are sell outs; not educated Black people. Major difference.

  • https://twitter.com/JordanDJohnson Jordan

    #2: I get the point. But that doesn’t mean we should give a pass to stereotypical and degrading behavior just because some people might see it as conforming to White America. Secondly, we are a minority in this country. Blacks like all other minority groups must conform to some degree to the majority culture and values. Thats a cohesive society. Wanna see what happens when minorities refuse to conform at all or expect the majority to bend over backwards for them? Check the immigration issues the UK is having, specifically the influx of Muslim immigrants. Its an inconvenient truth but truth nonetheless.

    #3: Again we’re giving a pass to absurdity. Names don’t have to be of Anglo Saxon origin to be acceptable but its ridiculous to advocate naming children gibberish for the sake of being unique. Whatever happened to bestowing meaningful names to children? Names that insinuate values and characteristics you want them to embody? We invite criticism when we give kids these silly names. And the author needs to get real. First impressions are lasting impressions. Its not a Black-White thing as much as it is a socioeconomic thing. I’m
    Black and I’d be hesitant to hire LaQuayla too. Why? Because that name carries a stigma. She can have all the degrees and qualifications in the world but first I have to get past the name and see that she isn’t a stereotype with legs. Most employers won’t go that far when they have a stack of resumes just as qualified without ghetto names. Don’t cripple your kid, name them something sensible. If you want to step outside of the Anglo Saxon names then look into African names or perhaps Middle Eastern names.

    #5: Do you mean uneducated as in possession of a diploma or less? Or do you mean stereotypical Blacks? Lets be real, educated Blacks or those that carry themselves in defiance of the stereotypes don’t get much love. How many times have you been told you talk White? Or the stuff you do is “White boy stuff’? There are plenty of educated Blacks that do look to raise up the less fortunate members of our community. How many Black professors are out there doing exactly that? Often the best way to give back is to refrain from damaging or degrading behaviors. Such as waiting until after marriage to have kids and being there for those kids. Especially Black men. Honestly, if we as a whole were better parents I think Black graduate rates would soar and Black crime and poverty rates would take a noticeable dip. But I guess its easier to blame racist Whites or the indifferent educated Blacks huh?

    That is all.

  • Candacey Doris

    I like how you’re stereotyping educated black americans. You’re explaining when you do the same thing that you list here but if they do it it’s not for a specific reason, they’re just being stuck up. Don’t hang out with less educated people? Can’t possibly be because you tend to hang out with those you have the most in common (a huge lil wayne fan is not hanging out with a Cecilia Bartoli fan on Friday night). Don’t name their child something with a Q or apostrophe, it’s because they’re stuck up, not because they just love the name they actually chose. Seriously, this article was a huge miss. Why didn’t you just write about social climbers, people who try to pretend they have a perfect past, etc? Because This behavior is not limited to black americans, educated or not.

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  • GeekMommaRants

    This article is hater aid in ten points. My African, Carribean and Bahamian friends do not up-hold ignorance. Education is very important to most black people on the planet. The exception would be red-neck black Americans who are as ignorant as they’re white counterparts. Running away from knowledge like running from gun fire.

  • CC

    Not a bad article. I commend the author for admitting to being guilty of committing some of her own pet peeves. I can admit to the same and it definitely sheds some light on how shallow one can be because of a degree. The only thing I don’t agree with is assigning this behavior to “educated black people”. I’ve experienced most of these from different races, mostly non-black and those who have disgraced me with these types of interactions have been and will be dismissed from my company. I realize I may have run off some good people myself with quirks of the like but hey, you live and you learn and since we’ve been a twinkle in our parents’ eye they have always taught us “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. Nobody is perfect, educated or not, the best thing to do is follow your heart and you can never go wrong. You just have to learn to let others follow theirs whether you agree or not.

  • heyheynow

    I keep saying name comments. If your parents named you something that would be considered hood then of course you will try to justify it. However research has shown that employers will ignore resumes with certain names on it. It’s not fair but trying to justify your name on a blog site isn’t going to stop someone from not hiring you because of it.

  • heyheynow

    Well here’s the problem with this article. Upper class, educated or whatever you wanna call it white folks only socialize with other white folks in that same class. In Black America we have this thing where we feel like we have to look out for everyone. I didn’t come from the “hood” so while I do volunteer and work with the youth from low SES demographics that doesn’t mean I can’t have an event and only invite other educated black people. When you want to date you will want to date someone else who is also educated it just makes sense to go to events where other educated black people will be. Now the not knowing you thing ok I can rock with that. However the name thing and the knowing how to act in public I’m sorry but if that’s what us educated black people do that’s what I will continue to do. Once you’ve been educated there are certain ways you should or shouldn’t act.

  • Adam IamKing De’Andre

    Somebody tell whoever runs this damn site to stop putting the same freaking advert and automatic video on each page…. ole uneducated negros

  • ZLoves

    “Isn’t it amazing how all educated, black people are just one degree away from another educated, black person?” <——————– Somebody just got read HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • April Stewart

    I must be an “educated black person” because I thought this article was stupid.

  • Tonyoardee

    I remember this blog from years ago, especially the part with the greeks, boat shoes, and gated communities. Alot of this certainly rung true as well, youtube “things bougie black girls say”

  • Some Guy

    I too found the segment about “black names” to be overreaching. One, there is a distinction between black names and unanimously dumb names. Two, because an employer makes a decision based on your name, not to call you or call you back about a job that you applied for is nothing to be grateful for. Granted, a better job may be in store. Summarily, forming an opinion based on a name is human, not racist.

    I would liken that to a person who did recieve an interview showing up in what you or most would call “black clothes” and complains he/she didn’t get the job because the interviewer’s decision was biased because he didn’t like the way the interviewee dressed. Everyone’s decision-making process contains some form of bias, not always racially motivated. However I’m no fool, I’m certain that your contention may hold true in some situations, but to say without exception, that not choosing someone based on a name is automatically racist is indicative of a flawed or lazy thought process.

    • Michelle Kirkwood

      It’s been proven that people with “black” names do get their resumes not even looked at—-I read an article years ago about professional black folks just out of college trying to get a job at some big firms and they had similar problems. One brother was named Kwame, I think, and he would up changing his name to get the job. Bottom line,though, that practice is discriminatory as hell—it’s not like you have to accept it at all. I’m glad its been exposed for what it is.

  • Let It Be

    Well, this escalated quickly. I think the responses to this article kind of proved an underlying point.

    • coolyfett

      It actually did. Its like we are not all reading the same article. I think everyone here is educated in some degree or form. This isnt a webpage that attracts thugs and hood rats. Most of the articles are pretty diverse, but I must say this one is interesting on so many levels. Its like being down to earth is so hard for some people. Are our egos really that out of control???

      • GeekMommaRants

        It’s not an issue of ego. It’s an issue of personal accomplishment. If you to see ego take a look at the NBA or NFL, now that’s ego!

      • Let It Be

        Yes to the egos. Either that or too many people read this with their emotions all over their sleeves. I still don’t know where people got the idea that she was down playing black people getting an education. This really not about that and it was not that serious. I actually giggled at a few. Like someone else said, everyone seems to be pretending like they don’t know what she is talking about. Many of the comments were proving the overall point.

        • coolyfett

          Well Let it Be, Im not sure where you live in America but down here in Georgia I see a lot of that stuff from co workers where I work. I have a degree, but its not a Ph D or anything like that. I just analyze things from smart decision v. dumb decision point of view. A lot of the things mentioned are critiques on dumb decisions. People are people and everyone has an internal need for some form of acceptance. It just so happens many educated blacks behave this way and YES some educated whites do it do BUT, there are educated whites who have no fashion sense, no swag, dont waste money on “nice things” just really regular white people with an education. Some of us educated blacks act as if just being normal is worst than the plague. Dont go to normal events, dont wear regular clothes, dont drive an overpriced fancy car thats LAAAAME. lol. Some educated blacks think they are movie stars just because they have a degree and make 40,000 a year. Its like they afraid Lil Duval will call them basic.

          • Let It Be

            Born and raised in Memphis, lived in Chattanooga for 10 years and just moved on to STL; I know what you mean. I like to call it the “ain’t used to nothin” syndrome.

  • Kristen

    I have a bachelor’s degree. I enjoy playing in the orchestra. I want to own my own business where I can wear leggings and converse or whatever I wanna wear. I want a master’s degree. And a doctorate too. I have friends of all colors and backgrounds and like it that way. I like listening to metal and jazz. I like to hang out at the local hole-in-the-wall and have a few Lone Stars. I’m black. My name sounds “white”. But IDGAF. I’m me. I’m real, down to earth, not trying to prove anything to anyone but myself, I wanna make my parents proud, I wanna be successful, I want to help others. I’ve been poor. Currently am. Dated in and outside of my race. I have a Texas drawl but I think grammar is important. Yet I’ll always be considered stuck up because I’m educated. Yeah makes total sense.

    • km

      Hell yeah mama! Focus on making the best life for yourself, not on what other people say you should or shouldn’t do bases on your race. More power to you!

      • Kristen

        Thank you!

  • MarriedMomOf2

    There’s nothing wrong with being educated black person, people will respect you more for being educated than acting stupid! No I will not dumb myself down to conform to ignorance and I don’t want my kids to do the same when they grow up. I believe an uneducated hoodrat wrote this f**kery of an article!

  • LN

    This article is a disgrace and reinforces class divisions that we as blacks in America perpetuate ourselves. I will be happy for the day when being “authentic” as a black woman or man is NOT synonymous with being “hood”.

  • Eric Hulk Brown

    Sounds like a bunch of crap bitter hood rat stuff SMDH

  • Just saying!!

    Apparently there are a lot of educated black people that read MadameNoire. Ms. Wells seems to have hit a nerve! Lmao

    • get real

      Lmao

  • Just saying!!

    Anyone who thinks this article is meant to downplay education or praise hoodrats completely missed the point of this article (and probably is educated too so they already decided to be offended from jump). if anything, it should show how classism is such an issue in the black community. Black people always complain that those who make it don’t give back but as soon as we get an education ourselves we become better than. I’m sorry but it is DEF time for the “educated” black community to reevaluate our relationship with the ones we demean as “ghetto”. I’m definitely guilty of a couple of these things (including correcting people), but instead of being offended, as you can expect an educated person to do, take the time to self- evaluate and ask yourself how YOU are contributing to the problem, cuz lawd knows I know plenty of black people that do these things!

    • GeekMommaRants

      Huh? I am to understand the lack of self-respect, the ignorance and fear of knowledge? I was raised with notion of each one, teach one. This is now uppity?

  • coolyfett

    Damn this article struck a nerve. Its a lot of feedback on this one. Good Job Veronica, Look forward to more work from you.

  • kiki j

    I love this article! It’s so true. I hate when educated black folk try to talk above your head or be “deep”. I’m like, bruh, chill you ain’t that deep! Lol I have one of those fancy degrees and let me tell you, after paying student loans and regular bills as well as providing for our two kids my husband and I are still paycheck to paycheck but we’re educated though lol. I’m gonna be me all day long degree or no degree.

    • dusttracks

      Yaaassss!!!

  • Dee

    I agree with you, Missy. If you talk proper or distance yourself from people who have different likes than you, you are considered a sell out or an uncle Tom. I could care less what a person name their child as long as they can do their jobs correctly. I do not discriminate on a person’s birth name. I choose not to drink or smoke weed and somehow get labeled as if I think I am “better” than the next person. Some blacks discriminate, assume and pre-judge other blacks because of insecurities. As for me, I do give to charity to the underpriviledged in my community. Some blacks may assume you are looking down on them when you are not even paying attention to them. I think it has to deal with paranoia. I love my blackness and all black people. In the words of Deepak Chopra: ” I am superior to no one. I am beneath no one”. This article was written to make people feel guilty. I didn’t work with me though.

  • Celine

    Hey, I’m white. And I know it’s bad but yeah you get judged on good names. If that’s no skin of your back then please, by all means, go ahead and name your kids all the hood names you want! Lashownda, lachandelier, dijjonaise, jayden…knock yourselves out. But if you want that kids resume to get looked at twice, chill with that.

  • Maxine Shaw

    I’ll tell you the #1 thing that drives me nuts about educated black people – black people who consider themselves educated just because they got a damn college degree. A bachelor’s is the new high school diploma nowadays, and even Master’s degrees are becoming more and more common. Everybody and their mama has a bachelor’s degree (including my mother and me), so get off your high horse. Congratulations! You’re slightly above average! Now excuse me while I take my car to some mechanic who makes about $50,000 a year and DIDN’T go to college.

    • get real

      Lol

    • Jameelah

      50,000 is not much money, this must be young people responding…and that mechanic tops off at that and gets dirty everyday…but ok

  • Sandy Gray

    I suppose different races have their quirks, but I’ve found in life is that anyone who thinks their education makes them better than anyone else is going to be annoying in some way or other.

  • journalschism

    While I feel you on the “not knowing you” and “name dropping,” the vast majority of this piece sounds like sour grapes to me. Most (but not all) of my “uneducated” friends distanced themselves from ME. I could care less what school you went to or didn’t go to. As long as you aren’t trying to get me caught up in stupid stuff, a friend is a friend. Just because I can put two sentences together that aren’t modified by the n-word or cursing doesn’t make me uppity. Yet, I don’t begrudge you for speaking that way. Yes, some educated folk need to get their egos in check. But non-schooled folk need to stop being so paranoid about being judged.

  • Tenia

    This is one of the dumbest articles I’ve ever read. A lot of what you’re complaining about are things that anyone does. Applying yourself won’t be worth anything if you can’t get a shot. That’s why people distance themselves from not ghetto, but meaningless overly complicated names. I agree with Missy that whoever wrote this is really trying to downplay the value of education. A lot of this stuff is pretentious but what’s the alternative?

  • Darling

    by reading the second reason already, something don’t sound right and have nothing to do with only educated black person. first this kind of reasons only sum up to black american person and not world wide. second, start to think that not only america have black people and calling each other the n- word is highly degrading. how do we expect to receive different treatment if we don’t start our self. also the “black people” names, really? i have only hear those names in america, so how is that a mark of being black? I try reading it all and i must say this behavior sum up all educated person and why is it so bad to be proud of being educated? Like first impression,people will judge you by your friends and same like you, you are judging all educated black person like the few you met.

  • lil crunch from the westside

    F@^k these educated negros. I’m out here counting these rocks b!$tch!!!

    • GeekMommaRants

      You are a source of a lot of violence and reason the black family is dead.

  • get real

    Why are you guys pretending to not get what the writer is talking about? She’s not bashing education, more so the “white people please accept me” mentality that a lot of “educated” blacks have. Especially black women. But go ahead and keep pretending to not get the point.

    • Widney Meridien

      Preach!

    • coolyfett

      I get it and I know the types of blacks she is talking about.

      • get real

        And the women here get it too. They’re just pretending not too. They know good and well that this article is not attacking being educated. Once again, it’s attacking that ” white people, I’m not like them (other blacks)so please accept me” mentality that a lot of these women seem to have.

    • Jameelah

      but this is the thing…by her saying “educated black people” she is doing the same thing so called whites do…educated people do these things in general, its about class-ism, elitism and black, hispanics, asians, etc. are no different…people disassociate with what they don’t want for what they want. it has nothing to do with color, some black people are much too defined by their blackness, thats why I left the HBCU I started at, I was young but something told me that the world was much bigger than the 13% (african-american pop) I was surrounding myself with and I was right, travel the world and see if these things matter to you…you can be and do whatever you want, and also people with this mentality don’t get too far and there are so many other kinds of people than black and white…geesh it gets old…

  • Tru Words&Wisdom

    This article is quite ridiculous..
    1) The “Black” name, I always wondered if they even have any meaning. In my culture you name a child in accordance to a blessing. What you hope and pray upon them. You give a child a name that you hope will reflect who they will become. What do some of those names mean anyway?

    2) It is sadder to me that black people are the most divided people in the entire world. We divide ourselves by everything from religion, culture, nationality, tribe, language and even more asinine hair texture and skin color…”two shades darker go to the left”
    We used to be Kings and Queens and now we fight for scraps! The only way we will ever conquer anything is if we find ourselves and find a common ground.

    • CC

      What you’re saying is true as far as the black race being divided, but that’s not quite what the author is getting at, that’s a different article. She’s saying that judging someone because of their name (that they obviously didn’t choose) does not make one any more educated, better or elite than them. I have a name that is considered “ghetto” but with further research I found that it is of Hebrew origin and means “weapon” or “spear” and is pronounced different from the annunciation my parent provided. I know my parents didn’t know that when they named me but that doesn’t devalue my existence, determine my education or if I am incapable of doing great things and working hard.

  • Reatha

    This article is ridiculous. It honestly seems like its written by someone who is hating on someone else who is educated and happens to be a black person. This list can be taken as offiensive. It’s sad that there are articles out there like this.

    • Michelle Kirkwood

      The article isn’t ridiculous at all—the author is simply calling out educated black people who think they are better and more important than everyone else simply because they have a degree. Even my own mother, who got a master’s degree,told me and my siblings a long time ago that if she ever came off like she was getting a big head,to check her on it. Unfortunately, a lot of educated folk (not just black ones) think that people are supposed to bow down and kiss their behinds simply because they have that piece of paper (a degree) which is some BS. Having a degree does open a whole lot of doors for you in terms of networking for jobs as well as getting them, but it dosen’t necessarily make you a better person, or even better than anyone else around you. We all have fallen short of the glory of God,anyway, so just chill, and be a decent human being—that’s all you can be.

  • BobbyBrownsUnhingedLowerJaw

    imo most, not all but most of the “educated” black people i know are dimwitted when it comes to common sense, in relationships, especially. but…for the most part they seem cool, but when it comes to working thru difficulties…not so good. they are good for showing up on time though.

    • scandalous7

      ” they are good for showing up on time though.” idk why that’s so funny to me,

  • scandalous7

    Dumb article. Id rather be educated and have these complaints than be the stereotype any day. Period. Keep complaining about educated black people while we be boogie all the way to the bank. Hi haters, bye haters.

    • GeekMommaRants

      Love it!!

  • CPride

    What a stupid article. Yes, let’s make everyone feel better by downplaying the achievements of “educated black people”.

  • Blaq Mamba

    i actually like this article. i feel the same way sometimes. there is a real difference in ‘education’ and intellect.

  • Raven K

    honestly, who ever wrote this article just sounds like a hater.

  • Raven K

    I’m about to sound incredibly bougie, but say what you want about me not wanting my child to have a name that ends in -quan or -isha. I’m sorry, but names like those are just ghetto as hell and I don’t come from that.

    • Kam

      Cosign! My parents gave us “regular” names (Victoria, Kamille, David, Monica, and Vanessa). My name was exotic enough for me growing up, my sisters, and brother’s gave their kids “regular” names as well.

    • Michelle Kirkwood

      Okay,c’mon—so-called “ghetto” names are just that–NAMES! And there’ s nothing wrong with a Tanisha, or Tamia (like the singer)or LaNeisha. Why do we as black get stigmaticized over our names more then anybody else. White folks can name their kids however weird names like Apple or something, but God forbid black have their children with a name that deviates from the anglo-american discourse that is called “‘regular..

      • Raven K

        I didn’t say anything about emulating for a “regular name”… but like I said, maybe I’m just bougie. I’m not really sorry about it though.

  • Kam

    How old is Veronica Wells? I felt like I just read a ranting post of Facebook from one of my little cousins! Formally or informally educated people don’t do any of the things listed in this foolish piece. Only the truly ignorant behave like that. And you can hold a Ph.D from Cambridge, and still come out to be ignorant as the day as long. Ms. Wells needs to check herself. Or lock her laptop when children come over.

    • GeekMommaRants

      LOL!

  • Peote

    This article is written in the tone of a hater but I do agree that these ‘educated black person’ things are elitist and classist.

  • Sugar

    “Black names” What the hell is a black name? Certainly not an african name or Arabic name. The names most think of are misspelled, mispronounced, and or made up names people pull out of mid air. There is nothing wrong with Imani unless it’s spelled Imoni. Also this “n-word” Who with any common sense goes around referring to themselves, their friends and loved one as one? Self hate much? You can be urself without insulting urself. it’s like saying ugly is really pretty if you use it “the right way” how ignorant is that?

    • da truth

      Imani is Swahili meaning peace.

  • miamac63

    Shame on you (writer) for generalizing. This understanding or ‘feeling some sort of way’ does not apply to ALL educated black folks. (Yes, I said folks and not people). Hmmm, I figure myself an educated (formally trained) black person and yet, chile, I do not FIT in your box, or anybody else for that matter. I applaud intelligence, period, and maturity. One can be matured and not necessarily ‘educated’ but …because they are wise enough to learn from others, they come across as well spoken. I decided quite a long time ago (when I was much younger) that I wouldn’t sacrifice who I was for money or any person; only God. So, I’m happy to say that my educated and intelligent behind still believes in education and self-improvement steps for all, black or otherwise. And yes, a ghetto or cultured name can limit a child from being selected, i.e. for jobs, even if they are well spoken and educated. I know, because this is the case according to my daughter, whom, you guessed it, has a more ethnic name or I’d like to say unique. The reality is there are judgmental people in the word, whether racist or just plain ignorant, and as I consoled her, GOD IS IN CONTROL, so do you and yes, be the BEST you that you can be and that includes being highly educated.

  • FromUR2UB

    Don’t “hood” people make fun of educated people? That thing the character Madea does when she speaks to certain people, “Hellerrrr”. Isn’t that her “proper talkin'” voice, that she uses to mock proper talkin’ people? As far as the sagging pants thing, yeah, I’m really thinking about what might offend white people as I’m having to see some young man’s drawls. Nevermind that IT OFFENDS ME! Don’t they care what their grandmothers would think of that? What kind of person does that? When you literally expose your a** to the world, how much of a nothing do you have to feel like, to not care that your butt is out?? The saddest thing about someone who does that, is I can’t even imagine them ever working…or doing more than spending their days sleeping, eating or just hanging around somewhere. I sure wouldn’t hire them because I’m not sure I could trust them to take pride in a job, if they can’t even have a basic pride in themselves. C’mon!

  • @lofeandmorelife

    My life experience is vast considering I have more years behind me than I have ahead lol. I will say this: Just be yourself. ALL people appreciate authenticity. Whites appreciate the fact that you have the ability to identify with the core of your being and blacks who are under educated (life or formal schooling) appreciate your formal education. I’ve sat in board meetings and said Aw hell to the naw in my best Whitney voice and went in to tell the board why the proposal won’t work. Just be exactly who you are. Formal education and hood. Or formal education and no hood. Or just hood. It all works if you come in peace and with a smile. Trust.

  • Alynne

    I think some people are taking this a little too seriously. I don’t think she’s saying that education itself is the problem, but rather that some people who are well educated use their education to judge people they believe are less educated. I’m an Ivy League graduate and I do have friends who do sometimes comfort themselves with their degrees — their response to an altercation with anyone who didn’t graduate from a school that they deem of equal value is “I’m automatically the winner of this argument even if I didn’t win because my school’s better than yours.” If you don’t know any bougie black people, that’s fine but what she’s saying is not so far-fetched. And if you feel such a type of way that she would call people out for judging “hood names”, which in my opinion is very rude to do, then maybe you shouldn’t be doing that.

    • Alynne

      *use their education as an excuse to judge…

    • kiki j

      Exactly! You are right. It’s not to say you shouldn’t be proud of being educated or should act uneducated when you know better. She’s speaking about the ones who feel that since they are educate they want nothing to with anything connecting them to black in hopes that white America can over look what they see in themselves as a”cultural blemish”. I the ones offended are the ones she’s talking about.

    • coolyfett

      Exactly. Its all in attitude and humility. SOME of the so call educated blacks think they better then even the educated blacks who refuse to buy expensive products or live an expensive lifestyle. Its seem the wannabe successful are the ones most defensive, it just seems that way.

    • CC

      Well put

  • Colorful

    I beg to differ. I am an educated Black woman. I feel that when one (no matter their color) earn an education, it will set them apart.But I have worked with other professionals who are still becoming unwed baby mommas & baby daddies. As you excel in your professional life you are suppose to upgrade your standards too. I don’t see enough educated Black people raising their standards.

    • Jan

      i see what you mean , but education won’t always equip people to make better decisions in interpersonal affairs…. trace the history of a lot great minds of this time and you will see that those individuals had torrid relationships and other personal demons.

  • JustSayin

    You will not make me feel ashamed of my “education.” How dare Madame Noire published this article. We shame the race for being ratchet or taking government assistance and praise other races for helping one another. But now we are shaming people who get a better education and do better for their family? We are shaming people that utilize their education, move out of the “hood” and do charity dinners while living the life the life that we dream of? How DARE Madame Noire even question that. How rude. There is no such thing as a BLACK name. There is no such thing as an AFRICAN AMERICAN name. There are hood names, names that carry no history or meaning and names that are derived from certain cultures, religions or tribes. That’s it. What type of ignorance? Mannnnnnnn Let me stop.

  • cellyb2000

    This article comes off as a bit of an oxymoron to me: if you’re truly “educated” (meaning the opposite of ignorant) would you be engaged in these type of activities? There is nothing wrong with being educated and being true to yourself.

  • Guest

    I work with two W women who have “ghetto” names and obviously they have a job. A gov job at that

  • links31

    I am educated black and young and pretty much don’t care what this article says. At least i got my own and not have to rely on some bum baby mama or baby father like others do, or even the system for food aid. If i sacrificed my time and effort to make it where i am today, why am i suppose to not feel proud of my hard work and accomplishments? to make others who didn’t do the same feel good about themselves? Please! Its all fun and games when you take school for a joke and make fun of those who actually took their education seriously, so now, these same said people are grown adults, with no real work skill, or trade and i am suppose to come back to a community that A. Glorify gangsters, drug dealers, and baby mothers. Again, Please! or speaking proper English you are considered white. whatever. As an educated person, or educated black man, i see no benefit in returning. Black women resist black men such as myself because i keep myself together and handle my business as a man, but yet. skips over me for some yagging pants fool. I could careless they can have em and the rest of the black community can have em. Till black people start honor and appreciated educated black ppl who can bring resources, business and some form of order to the community then i will come back, till then i am going to continue with the rest of my life and hope to improve even more by grace of god and as for others. Well i can’t speak for others other than myself. Peace.

    • Black, educated and proud

      I couldn’t have said it better myself, why must I be forced to live in a messed up neighbourhood when I can afford to have piece of mind in a gated community. I owe nobody nothing, I worked hard and overcame my circumstances and nobody is gonna make me feel guilty about it. So if the author and all alike want to be uneducated so do all the way to the welfare office

    • coolyfett

      Tell em why you mad son….

  • jdmann

    The article is satire, there’s 10 good things about educated black people someone should present a pro argument.

  • shaking my head

    educated versus uneducated black people? Common this article is ridiculous and divisive. Let’s stick to fun, light hearted stuff. There is enough issues dividing our community without this bs.

    • Moka Latte

      Divisive is exactly what it is, and serves the purpose that those who hate black want: more divisiveness.

      • coolyfett

        @ Moka Latte, I dont think that is the case, why does this article bother you so? Has anyone ever accused you of being snobby, bougie, acting white? I ask because you are really defensive on the subject.

        • DealWithIt

          If she was accused of being snbby, bougie, or acting white, does that illegitimize her argument. Is

          • Moka Latte

            Apparently to them, I guess it does.

        • Moka Latte

          @Coolyfett, you know the saying about opinions. If you don’t think that’s the case, fine; but no need to come for me, because of it. Let me ask you, has anyone ever accused you of being lazy, uneducated, bitter, and on welfare? I ask, since you are so defensive about MY comment.

  • Moka Latte

    The author of this article CAN’T be serious. This HAS to be written as a satirical piece. Oh wait, let me not use big words; as educated black people do this to make uneducated black people feel less than!

    There is nothing wrong with being proud of being educated, and reaping the benefits that come with it. That doesn’t mean forget where you came from, or neglect to help in less-fortunate communities.

    And as far as correcting someone, just be sure that your answer that you are giving is correct; and you won’t have the problem of looking like a know-it-all that is just trying to prove something. What’s wrong with spreading knowledge? Spreading knowledge to our kind used to be illegal. They didn’t want us to learn to read. So, why would we refrain from that, just because you got played when trying to correct someone?

    A true educated black person (and YES, I said BLACK) knows that being educated and reaping the benefits has zero to do with making others feel beneath you. Rather, we know we can have the power to enlighten those; who may not have otherwise had the chance.

    • Jennifer Ebunilo

      *applause*

      • Moka Latte

        Thanks, Jennifer.

  • au8277

    For those who don’t feel like clicking through Miss Wells’ article…

    Don’t do anything that would threaten black homogeneity, because it could be interpreted as you thinking you’re better than everybody else.

    If you do anything that doesn’t align with (black) culturally-accepted norms, you are trying to distance yourself from your race and are possibly a snob.

    Don’t shy away from “traditional” minority names like LaQuiesha, TiAndre and Alize because everybody knows that your good grades, hard work, and well-meaning intentions will prevent any potential employer from prejudging you.

    If you’re educated, do what you need to do at work, but be sure to keep it real out of the office; and if the “real” for you isn’t very different from the “office” you, then you’re a lost cause, because everybody knows there’s no diversity amongst black people and you are therefore a pretentious phony.

    “Exclusive” groups are inherently bad if you are black, and if $ is the term of the exclusivity, you’re bourgeois because 25K fundraising dinners are only for rich people, which you can’t be if you’re black…because there’s no such thing as diversity among black people.

    Educated black people name drop, hand out phony business cards to pump themselves up, and hang out with like-minded peers to the detriment of the less fortunate, unlike educated people of other races.

    • guest

      And they can only do the electric slide and even then they be messing it up for everybody.

    • Etover

      And god forbid you shun your black vernacular language and all your “I is”, and “I’s aint’s” to fit in to the white man’s world, regardless of the fact that you never grew up speaking it in the first place. But alas, blacks have no diversity, no diverse personalities, and experiences. We’re all robots.

  • jdmann

    Doctors and lawyers are the worst. Especially Black lawyers who are terrified of white lawyers, only handle easy cases like bankruptcy, or social security cases but want to act like they are Johnny Cochran

    • coolyfett

      Really?? Does that really go on in law offices?

  • KeepingItReal

    One side of the topic that I haven’t seen discussed is “jealousy/envy”. A lot of “educated” black people may not want to associate with those less educated because they may get tired of the “jealousy/envy/backbiting”. They don’t want to always hear about negativity or complaining. Also, the “what are you going to do for “our community mentality. One person can only do so much and it can be overbearing. Some people don’t realize everyone…regardless of education…can contribute to your community. But, to try to “overburden” those who are gifted may chase them away. Just saying……

    • NurseNiki

      Yes, and that sense of entitlement (acting as if the world owes you something) is not good. Black or white or Asian or anything else, nobody owes you anything. Turn off the TV, get off the phone talking about nothing and BETTER YOURSELVES. A person that puts in the effort to make it in life doesn’t have to take you by the hand and act like your mom/dad.

    • coolyfett

      Very true, that is another aspect of the discussion. I think blacks with power do want to help the less fortunate blacks but their is a lot resentment.

  • Joon

    My aunt needs to read this, she brags about how educated she is and how many degrees she has because she’s a school teacher and at the same time she sounds stupid! And the rest of us wonder why she’s 54, single and has no kids. Also she’ll get on you if you live in the projects, is on welfare, shop at discount grocery and clothing stores and if you decide to wear your hair natural. My mom and I cut ties with her, nobody ain’t got time for negativity. She’s no better than a single mom on welfare or a homeless person, as my 88 year old grandmother always say “God made us all equal and nobody is above anyone else, no matter what social status you have, nobody is above one another except God himself.

    • ItsTrue

      You all cut ties with her but I bet if you need money or a place to stay, she’ll be the first one you all call.

      • Joon

        Please, I got 8 more aunts who have bigger hearts than her that let me have a place to stay and money and they’re less judgmental, so STFU smarta**!

      • Ellen

        Yeah I’m sure she would put up with an aunt bragging about her success that it drives her crazy and her head explodes, smh!

      • Miss MJ 91

        Somebody said something similar early on in the discussion. That is so true. My mother and I both take pride in our education and we have generous hearts. Ive tried to help family by teaching them, not looking down on them or just giving them the answers to their problems. The fact is, they want it now, quick and easy. I don’t think so.You’ll know how badly they need help when they refuse to entertain hard work and just want handouts.

    • Ellen

      You have a wise grandmother, maybe she should tell your aunt that in her face! I can’t stand it when people brag about their success to, like, okay, what do you want a cookie from me? Just do you hon and live YOUR life for YOU.

    • GeekMommaRants

      So you completely ignore what your Aunt is doing in teaching children but focus on what she knows. Her incredible value in educating others, while you do nothing but complain. Ok!

    • Miss MJ 91

      I agree with your grandmother. If you look down on anyone it should because you’re helping them. However, i understand where your aunt and her attitude may have taken root: it’s often the attitudes of people like that. I wouldn’t go as far as to say it’s appearance. The attitude has to do with it, too. Ask yourself or your aunt (I’m curious) do those in the projects want to do better? Do they put forth the time and effort into moving up or is there fear in being called a “sellout” or “acting white”? I had a close friend come stay with me under the notion that she was to help herself get on her feet. There was no effort on her part so I stopped helping her.

  • ElonNicole

    100 percent AGREE with the article. You are not better than anyone b/c you have a degree. People of color who seek validation from white folk are lost, plain and simple.

    Whatever happened to “reaching back?” Paying it forward? Too busy dancin’ n prancin for the white man. Oh.

    • Moka Latte

      So, is seeking knowledge (a degree) seeking validation from white people? I’m not being argumentative. I want to know what your thoughts are on that. The two are not mutually exclusive. Knowledge is something that white people tried to keep from us for so long. Why would trying to gain it mean seeking validation from them? If anything, those that don’t value education are playing right into what is wanted by them.

      • ElonNicole

        Obtaining a degree doesn’t necessarily make you “educated.” It simply means you know how to and are willing to take direction in corporate america. You can be educated and have 0 degrees. Plus it’s all about perspective. Are we truly being educated or simply being fed their perspective?

        • GeekMommaRants

          NO! Education means you know the pitfalls that are laid out for you and how you can avoid some of thing with the knowledge that they exist. You know the lies that are used to keep you at a disadvantage. That’s all.

          • ElonNicole

            Ok. I agree with you.

      • ElonNicole

        Also seeking knowledge and more importantly truth, doesn’t mean you have to attend their schools nor adopt their skewed viewpoint.

    • km

      Having a degree = seeking validation from white folks? So black people should refuse to go to college on principal, because getting an education isn’t about opening doors for yourself and following your passion, it is all about impressing white people?

      Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

      Would you rather every doctor, lawyer, and teacher be white? You honestly would look down on a black dentist or social worker? Come follow me around my work for a day (I am a speech therapist at a mostly black school). Tell the kids I work with that I am “dancing and prancing for the white man” , and that I am a bad example. I guess you think my students should be working with a white therapist and I should be working at Popeye’s.

      • GeekMommaRants

        LMBAO!

      • ElonNicole

        Your whole paragraph/arguments are nothing more than assumptions. I was speaking about the article. My opinion, not a debate. Good day :)

  • Alisha Dixon

    Notice how there is no category “Educated White People” because they are already assumed to be educated (even though many are not).

    This whole things touches on a problem, which is that one cannot simply be “educated” but they must be “educated while black” which means that the 10 things listed here are “bad or wrong” things that educated black people shouldn’t do. Why aren’t they wrong for white people…they do it all the time.

    If these things bother you no matter what the race of the person, then fine (I mean, I hate name dropping too) but picking on educated people by race and dictating what they can and cannot do, to me is no different from saying “educated” black people sound white. If your educated, so be it. That education will shine though, beyond skin color. If you want to look at one of the MANY reasons we are held back as a race….look at all the criticism we heap on “educated” black people, instead of praising them for being educated while black.

    • ElonNicole

      why try to emulate white people?? this article is about condescending, self-righteous, i’m better than you people of color or what most refer to as “black folk.”

      INSTEAD OF TRYING TO ASSIMILATE we should learn, know and be proud of OUR history.

      • coolyfett

        Black people emulate whites because they want the better life they think white people have. There may be other reasons why educated blacks emulate whites but I think you know more about that than me.

      • GeekMommaRants

        So you see Africans as emulating white people? Your comment is stupid!

        • ElonNicole

          Thank you for calling my comment stupid. That is sure the way to have an open, honest dialogue. Yes, some Africans DO emulate and seek validation from whites. Have a great day :)

          • GeekMommaRants

            Do you know that ignorance has no equal.

            • ElonNicole

              i’m ALL about education. Just b/c you have obtained a degree doesn’t mean that you should turn your nose up at people and walk around like you are better than someone. Good day! :))

          • Jennifer Ebunilo

            ur so wrong it hurts

      • Alisha Dixon

        Where did you get “emulating white people”? Is being educated “emulating white people”? Are we assimilating by becoming educated? I didn’t now white people had a monopoly on knowledge…

        Educated people tend to be snobby. White educated people, Black educated people, Asian educated people…and if you have ever spend time around those “types” of people, you will see that MANY of them (regardless of race) see themselves as better them those who do not have the same type of education. I’m not saying it’s right or ok…I’m saying that these “educated black people” who think they are better then “black folks” are no different from the white Harvard kids who think their better then the white kids at every school that isn’t Ivy League. Or the Asian kids at MIT who think their so much more advanced then other Asian kids. This is not something “race” based. Educated people can (and often are) a**holes about their education, especially if that education is elite and/or expensive.

        • ElonNicole

          i know you will get it one day sis. Go back further, to the beginning ;)

  • Phrozen06

    “LaQuaysha” is a black name? Really? According to whom?
    Saying LaQuaysha is a black name is as stupid as saying speaking improperly is speaking “Black”. That using correct English is talking “White”

  • kb

    While being educated is a precursor, this speaks more to class differences between blacks. It is true, is hard to be friends w/people in a different class.

  • BabyBlue

    This must be a joke? Haha

  • top dog

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    The people that are down playing this article are the guilty ones. Before the civil rights act and the desegregation of schools, educated and uneducated Negros were treated as equals. There is an area in the town I live called east end or the bottom. This area is full of some of the biggest black churches in the area. Majority of the congregation is higher degree educated while the neighbors surrounding the church are high school educated or just dropouts. The educated can worship on Sunday morning but after church goes back to there homes in the white area of the city. Of course back in the day there were doctors, attorneys, teachers and others that called this area home. The most notable was attorney J Thomas Newsome who moved in his house in 1906 and today stands as a museum. His wife and daughter lived there until there deaths in 1975 and 1977. In every community, White, Latino, Black and Asian it takes all to make a community valuable to society. We are the only group that doesn’t understand how to sustain a community. When I hear college degree people make commits like “We need jobs for our community.” I say, “Why can’t you create jobs?” What good is your education if you are still begging the “Other” educated community for a job. I thought your education is equal to theirs. High incomes doesn’t equal wealth like net worth. Lower unemployment rates in the black community is your responsibility and no one else. Like MJ said, “START WITH THE MAN IN THE MIRROR AND MAKE THAT CHANGE.” Seek it for the truth it is, this article. PEACE

    • Marie De Salle (IvyNoLeague)

      You couldn’t have said it any better!!!

    • chaka1

      You assessment was a little unfair. Look at the growing number educated blacks. Most of them do not act like what was described in this article. There are plenty of black people with college degrees who live in and support the black community.

    • coolyfett

      Great post. These Corporate white companies hire a lot of black women to, then they move out of the community and complain there is a shortage of men. Very rarely do the well paid blacks stay in the hood, because the poorer blacks turn around steal or hurt the company that blacks build. Its a vicious cycle. Powerfully blacks leave the hood to live in the safety of white people, poorer blacks create the environment that well off blacks dont want to be in. How do we get the poorer blacks to behave? How do get the well off blacks to give back? Too much resentment from both sides.

      • GeekMommaRants

        You mean violence and terror? Who with an option for peace and safety would live in a freakin war zone? Babies, old folks, hell anyone can be murdered in their own home, police not required.

        There are a lot of successful black British and Canadians they do not run the UK or Canada either. You do know this, right?

  • ik

    I do and agree with many things on this list. Why do we have to be ignorant and ghetto, associate ourselves with immoral people, and lack class to be considered black? These things have less to do with being educated and more to do with self-respecting people having values and class.

  • bee

    I think that this article is offensive. There’s nothing wrong with “EDUCATED BLACK PEOPLE” – there’s a lot wrong with arrogance, pompous attitudes, superiority complexes, but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with educated black people. Let our people prosper, hell, there’s already enough stigmas that come with being black from other races, we don’t need our own tearing us down, too.

    • KeepingItReal

      Agree 100%

      • Mika

        Wait a minute—are you agreeing with yourself…lol!

    • ElonNicole

      this is what the article addressed. note the educated in quotation marks ..

    • Miss MJ 91

      Preach!

  • reallynoway

    The only thing I can’t stand about educated black people is, “There’s not enough”.

    • Jennifer Ebunilo

      *applause*

  • ThugBaby

    I agree with this list. Certainly not all “educated” black folk are stuck up and use their overpriced education to look down on other members of the black community, but there are many that do because I’ve experienced it first hand as people in my family behave in this way.

    A black person’s worth in this world and especially in America is measured by their proximity to whiteness. So having a formal college education is just another tool one can use to move further in that direction just as skin color, hair style, one’s non-use and shunning of Black Vernacular English, etc are all used to move closer to a white ideal, but in the end you’re still black.

    A n*gga with an MBA that drives a BMW home from the office to his mansion in the suburbs is still a n*gga. You might be elite in the black community, but you will never, ever…be elite in the real world. Sorry.

    • chaka1

      There is nothing wrong with wanting nice things, living in a nice neighborhood, and having job or owning a business that makes you feel fulfilled. It has little to do with being white, it is how we collectively measure success in this country. There are more “educated” black people than you think. 98% of them are leading very normal lives.

      • coolyfett

        Wanting nice things can be dangerous. Wont explain what I mean, but the Barneys situation does come to mind.

        • chaka1

          So what if someone wants nice things? That’s why we work, open businesses, invest money, build credit, etc.

          • coolyfett

            Just for nice things? Is that your only motivation? I see why this article troubles you.

            • Jennifer Ebunilo

              why are u baiting and putting words in her mouth? she said she likes nice things. I dont remember that being a sin. Who wants crappy things? people work hard to have the better.. why do all that to have nothing??

              • coolyfett

                Peace and harmony.

    • NurseNiki

      So are you saying that we should settle for mediocrity because we’ll never fit in anyway? That’s great for someone looking for an excuse to stay in their comfort zone. Nobody’s denouncing their race. Better to have higher standards than lower standards.

      • coolyfett

        High standards cost money. money that most black people dont actually have, but spend to put out the image of success. Standards are also subjective. Hopefully you are NOT one of those black people who waste your hard earned money buying white products, and before you say it…YES you can spend your money on what ever you want, but keep in mind WHO you are actually giving your money to for these “top standards” you crave.

  • Say What?

    Now that I live in New York one of the things I notice the most when it comes to men of color whom are educated is that a LOT (not all, but a LOT) will then exclusively only date white people. I met a black man once who didn’t date black people because he said a lot of them were low class and really hood in New York and I had to remind him that he was born and raised here. He acted as if he was the first black person to attend college.

    • coolyfett

      Is this a guy that you once wanted to date?

      • Say What?

        No, we worked together briefly and he brought up his point of view when two black women came into our office and one had flirted with him. When they left he said they were both low class and preceded to talk about how their hair wasn’t real and that they probably had kids already. He said sisters don’t do it for him. The bastard said “I’d prefer to date a Rebecca than a Renesha.”

    • KeepingItReal

      Many times people date those with whom they share commonalities. For instance…if a black person is in medical school….and they have a class of 300 students with only 1% being black….they most likely will not go out of their way to date a black student. They may date a classmate…who they spend much of their time…and that classmate may be Asian or White. Racism has many people thinking that race should be a big factor in finding a mate. Not true…people bond over what common experiences they share. A guy who loves punk rock would probably gravitate towards a female who likes the same. Bottom line…race is only one out of MANY things people can bond over…not the only one.

      • Say What?

        While that makes sense. This particular man only had his A.A. in Business and as he put it wouldn’t date black women because, “They’re disrespectful and don’t try to be successful.” This had nothing to do with finding love within your surroundings, but pure foolishness.

        • KeepingItReal

          In that case…that brotha did you a favor.
          P.S. For that one brother who was not interested…how many did you overlook that maybe were? Do you remember them? If not…what a shame.

        • chaka1

          This person has issues.

    • ElonNicole

      lol @ first black person to attend college. smh

  • TheStacyKeys

    My friends and I debate the giving back to the community all the time, we’ve concluded that most of us are slaves to our family’s helping them out here and there or all the time (some due to the irresponsibility of those family members), while volunteering within the community but sometimes that goes sideways due to conflict within the agency (we should do it this way or cliches)

    • TheStacyKeys

      As for naming kids, let’s just say that they are less likely to be passed over for an interview, when their name is Lisa compared to Laquita, sad but true, the educated know this from experience

      • KeepingItReal

        They are also less likely to be passed over if they are white versus black. The “name” issue is one I think is sad. People have a right to name their children whatever name the see fit. To acquiesce to names like “lisa” versus “laquita” is acquiescing to conformity”…which is the basis of racism.

        • TheStacyKeys

          Oh for sure but at least they are getting called in, trust me, I’ve seen it with my own eyes, not against black(although I’m sure they do it), but Indian and Chinese cause they think they might have an accent. Is it conformity? I’m not sure but it gives them a foot through the door

          • KeepingItReal

            Part of the reason why racism against blacks has lasted so long is because many black people continue to “comply” with racism by trying to change who we are naturally to somehow meld into some Eurocentric specimen. That alone is idiotic. Blaming a person’s name is ignoring the fact that when the person comes face to face for an interview…that “white name” will not hide your black skin. We are pass the stage of “getting our foot in the door”. Black people need to aim higher. We need to hold onto these professional jobs for 30+ years and retiring with a nice pension, 401K, et al. Either way, to focus on a name is taking away the focus from where it needs to be…white peoples racist acts towards blacks and white privilege.

            • TheStacyKeys

              I agree with u, but r we past the door? There are stories In recent history where there is the still black this or that, I’m not saying the name means success, the president does not have a euro name, but the barriers r still there like it or not so I understand why educated black use generic names

              • TheStacyKeys

                Edit sentence: there are recent stories where we are still the first black this or that

              • KeepingItReal

                Let me rephrase it. I am pass that door. Others may be straggling along behind me…but, hey, that’s them. If you act like a name will be a barrier to getting a job…then it will be. Look at post 9/11…you didn’t see Arabs trying to change their name to John Wayne or Joan Collins. It’s that mentality that holds many of us back.

                • coolyfett

                  Youll be surprised many of them them have an American nick name, at least that is what I saw down in Florida. Not sure how they get down in New York though.

          • hdndn

            That’s why we(lafanisha, bomquiqui, lanikisha, etc) need to be in positions of power so that we assure we don’t get passed over. It seems many com mentors are just accepting that someone els is always going to be the ones browsing our resumes. Power is the key. Education and high positions.

      • Anon

        Then we should change that reality, don’t you agree? As “KeepingItReal” has stated, how is conforming to some sort of ‘norm’ going to end general discrimination? (I’m not just talking names now but culture/accent as well). We can’t constantly plead to get our “foot in the door”.

  • Real

    i’m an educated black woman and have to admit i used to do some of the things mentioned. i’ve seen educated people act this way period. i believe it has a lot to do with the the environment one is in and what we are taught. these behaviors are learned.
    based on the environment you are in, you will act accordingly. the way you act a black tie gala is different than a tailgate party. fortunately for me, i’ve learned the importance of code-switching.

    • coolyfett

      Whats code switching?

      • Say What?

        No we worked together briefly and he made a few remarks about black women after a few came to our office.

      • Real

        code switching means to switch languages in the same context. for example, i greet my friends differently than i greet my employer. nonetheless they are both greetings.

  • jdmann

    You can’t educate unless you know the truth. Without the truth what are suppose to be breakthroughs have the opposite effect. The internal combustion engine causes global warming. The internet leads to cyber war etc. It is not education. It is training.

  • Jay Effkay

    Well the point is moot because there’s so few educated black people anyway

    America likes Indians and Chinese because they’re hard working, looking, super smart and family oriented folks who don’t squeal and cry about imagined racism like you guys do

    America gave black people so many chances but you’re just not cut out for the modern world

    You guys will always be America’s losers

    • Jessica Wilson

      Please sit your Edomite @ss down somewhere! And what “INDIANS” are you talking about? Native American Indians land were stolen from them twice including America and Israel. African American land were stolen from them twice Africa and Israel. Who cares about the Canaaties/Chinese and Arabs? Arabs help sold us to you guys. Remember??? So you can kiss our beautiful behind!!! Thank you!

      • Jay Effkay

        Indians from India you moron

        They’re admirable because they don’t commit crime, they have strong families, and they excel in medicine, engineering and science

        That’s why people like them …

        Black people are human crap… They’re just rubbish

        • Jessica Wilson

          They are considered the same as the Canaaties. Tell you the truth, they are mixture of you people. I look at them as the same. They are the darker version of the Arabs. Again, you all can kiss our beautiful behind.

          • Jessica Wilson

            Jay, please get off our website!!! We don’t need an Edomite as yourself on here. Take that bullsh!t somewhere!! They are in the news killing people here and in their country as you Synagogues Of Satan.

            • Jay Effkay

              Get out of our country

              You guys belong in Africa where you can be as retarded as you want to be

              You guys aren’t like normal people… You’re uncivilized still!

              • Jessica Wilson

                Wrong! Remember b!tch, Edomites came here late and used to live in the Caucasus Mountains, because you Cavemen and women didn’t have any land. That’s why you stole from us. We can live anywhere if we wanted to live there. You should go back to the caves.

              • Minister Nicole Walker

                These is not your country, you people stole this country like you stole everything else. Every country the white man has gone, he took everything they wanted, and claimed it as their own!

            • Mika

              I just had my credit card info swiped last week while I was pumping gas at the pump. I noticed I had $251 worth of charges from Bangalore, India before my bank stop it. My bank told me it’s a huge problem coming from India. What they do is put this small device into the part you insert your card, and it records all of your credit/debit card info, and they make a new card with same magnetic strip, and go shopping in their native country. My point, they’re crooks and lowlifes of every race.

              • Jessica Wilson

                They are crooks and call your phone from strange numbers asking for your personal information.

                • Jay Effkay

                  Thats Africans,..

                  you guys are the worlds poop

                  You look like it , smell like it and act like it

              • Jay Effkay

                you want stories from Africa ?

                LOL

                Ever heard of Nigerias’ email scam ?

                bloody blacks are scum everywhere, even in their homeland

          • Jay Effkay

            Black’s aren’t beautiful don’t be ridiculous

            You resemble chimps

            • Mika

              Jessica you are doing exactly what Jay wants you to do by responding to their racist crap. We all know this person would not have the guts to say the things their typing without anonymity. The blogs give these cowards the forum to spout their hatred and contempt for races they don’t like. Just ignore this idiot.

              • Jessica Wilson

                I will ignore him.

            • Dutchess

              It is clear as day that you want attention…maybe you are bored, or unloved…whatever the case may be sweetie go talk to someone. Don’t attack people who have nothing to do with your life…

        • coolyfett

          Dude stop trolling…you are bad at it.

        • Minister Nicole Walker

          Who do you think built this county, this county was built on the backs of the black people!

    • ThugBaby

      Lordy who gave TROLLS permission to use the internet?

  • Britt

    As an “educated black person” myself, I must say I am completely shocked and appalled at this article. Ms. Veronica Wells how dare write and publish some foolishness like this and be proud of it. I’m sorry educated black people don’t act like hoodlums and coons as you would like. Some of us are actually striving to become something better than the products of our environment. What is acting black or acting white anyway? We are all Americans and we all deserve a piece of the pie. It sounds like you may not have received your piece yet. Or is that those who are trying to get it offend you. “Girl Bye!” *in my hood voice*

    • Jessica Wilson

      Thank you! This list is a joke!!!

  • Anna O’Jay

    I’m a Black Ivy League graduate and I can honestly say NONE of these things apply to the people I choose to be around. Sounds to me like you’re spending time around the wrong “educated Black people”.

    • Stacey

      They are basically trying to make educated blacks feel bad about their status or self conscious.

  • coolyfett

    Man I remember when I first moved to Atlanta Georgia in 2008, this article reminded me of the attitudes and things I saw when I first got here. Its a lot of truth in this article. This has to be one of the first articles I truly like a lot . I dont consider myself educated academically, but when it comes to life knowledge and discernment I think im well off in that regard. Im also good with money. It was easy to avoid these “educated black people” vices. It sad to see people still trying to be cool after they turn 30, but in Atlanta Georgia I see the wanna be cool educated crowd a lot.

    • @lifeandmorelife

      The ATL is a very pretentious place in general. I lived there too. The reasons are beyond education because education is a given in the south. It’s expected. Atlanta is pretentious because of the demographic: young, striving but not quite there, and Hollywood of the south.

      • Stacey

        Ditto, I would say that was mainly bc you were in ATL also.

  • XJane

    This is so very racist and insulting…I just can’t put my grave disappointment into words. Your claims are tantamount to a white person using phrases like “uppity” and “know your place”. We all know people who regardless of educational attainment behave in ways that smack of elitism, based on things like family status or skin tone. To equate the black experience to stereotypical assumptions is offensive. I guess I could put it in to words.

  • jdmann

    It is a indoctrination system not a education system. The same as corporate America. It is about maintaining the status quo. It divides and conquers every race but especially blacks.

  • Shirley768

    This list is more like “What pretentious people do.” Those behaviors come in all races, we need to have more articles perhaps about humility and how to show pride in our community.

    • L S Gordon

      Thank. You. Madame.

    • chaka1

      Thank you. This has little to do with being educated or not. This article was offensive.

  • Missy

    This article seems more like another way for black people to downplay an education. We are so quick to praise “hood ish” and buffoonery, but how dare those from within our community who sought to better themselves and grow beyond stereotypical “black norms” do so and do so with pride. Yes, I am guilty of a lot of the things posted here in this article, but I surely didn’t change the crowd I associate with or the type of person I call a friend to try and belittle anyone. I wanted better in life and therefore found it necessary to set higher standards for my life in all aspects. As far as educated blacks staying away from so called “black” names, LaQuieshya isn’t a black name it is a hood name. Black names are those taken from our place of origin in whatever country our ancestors come from in Africa, not those that come from the medicine cabinet.

    • adiatc

      @ Missy

      You took the words right out of my mouth!!!! Especially the “black” names. Names in African cultures (most other ethnic cultures as well) have an actual meanings or are names passed down from generation to generation. Not something someone just makes up because they think it sounds cute!

      Education (formal or informal) is vital for advancement here or anywhere else in the world. As long as we continue to not make it a priority, we will remain stagnant.

      • my name is laquanishia and im

        Excuse me! Any name can have a meaning. Whatever meaning the parent wants it to be.

        • JustSayin

          No; unfortunately a parent can not just invent a meaning. If you research a name it is given a meaning because a cultural, tribe or a religion has developed a name through some sort of process. My name? Does not have a meaning but I know what it was derived from. I know what my mother intended. And; upon further research it makes sense. Don’t get offended because a name may fall under the “hood” category. Does not mean you are hood but it does mean that it falls under the hood category. No different than having what is called a “white trash” name or a common “hispanic” name.

          • vhhb

            Yes your name can be whatever you want it to be.

          • vhhb

            Wiliamishiqua jackson Someone had to make up all names at some point. Be a leader not a follower. Thank you!

            • Aak

              What does Ishiqua mean?

            • doc savage

              Wiliamishiqua? please that means absolutely nothing .. Guess black people can continue to use the word screet and rachet .. Be a leader ?? Black people are doing anything but being leaders, we rather follow the ways buffoonery only because the white mans not doing it.

          • Mika

            Again, when you get through with all that cultural, tribe, religion giberish—ALL NAMES WERE MADE UP AT ONE POINT, AND GIVEN A MEANING or NOT. If you feel certain names are not legitimate because they were made up in recent years as opposed to years ago—it’s all subjective, your opinion it just your opinion. However, it is a fact that all names are MADE UP!!!

            • Oh

              But ideally the names don’t look like someone punched the keyboard to make them up.

              • Mika

                I betcha if we take those same names you’re looking down on or the ones you feel are beneath your so-call intellectual scope, and put a White face, Asian face. Indian face, anything BUT a Black face behind it, and you’ll be stating how rich they are in culture and religion…FOH!!!

                • Maria

                  Wow… what?!

            • Check Please

              Not exactly. Names, for the most part, have always been a function of a specific language. They do not come out of a void, and can even change dramatically in sound and appearence as they are adopted by different cultures and expressed in different languages. For instance, Alexander started in ancient Greece as Alexandros and means “defender of men”, not because it was given that meaning, but because it is a sum of its parts, (alexo) “to defend, help” and (aner) “man”. Also, as it moved through different cultures, it changed appearence (alejandro, aleksander, iskander) and gave rise to new versions (alistair, xander, sasho, olek). There is a method to the madness. It isnt just arbitrary.

              • Asiaj2006

                Let them know! Love this explanation.

            • Jennifer Ebunilo

              names are not made up. They are derived from special meanings and the languages of the people who speak it. My Igbo (nigerian) name means what God has giving you. What does laqunisha mean?? if you can answer that then no one say anything. Ive truly noticed that most African Americans are so insecure and have such low self-esteem that the only way they can feel better is to be loud, act out, and belittle intelligence. I was made fun of in middle school because I liked to READ and didnt sound ghetto… when I grew up I realized it was jealousy.

              • Mika

                Wow!!! I can’t believe people are still responding to this. Jennifer, you’re sounding like the typical Nigerian whose family came to America to seek a better opportunity. Unfortunately, Africans have bought into this false stereotype about “African American” being so-called ghetto, and the Africans see themselves as superior to the blacks in America. No one’s jealous of you! There are plenty of intelligent/articulate blacks in America. Now back to the topic, maybe you have a problem with the word “made-up”, how about “created”? All names sweetie were created! Just because someone chooses NOT to choose a name from the existing name pool (created names from long time ago.), and they choose to “create” a new name doesn’t make them ignorant or “ghetto” as you put it. Again, at some point ALL NAMES WERE–CREATED, MADE-UP OR INVENTED!!! What does “Jennifer” mean? It’s a typical “white girl” name made-up years ago. Laqunisha is a unique name create by someone who didn’t want to pull from the pool of old made-up names. I will give Laqunisha a meaning – Unique, non-existing, fearless, non-conforming, independent. Just because a name was created years ago and given a meaning doesn’t make it anymore valid or quality than the non-standard names.

                • Jennifer Ebunilo

                  Jennifer is the a Cornish name derived from the Welsh name Gwenhwyfar with means fair and smooth. So yes JENNIFER has a meaning. I didnt buy into the FALSE STEREOTYPE because I witnessed it. When I came here, the most evil cruel people were black, calling me african booty scratcher and insulting my accent. Telling me if I dont sound ghetto no one will like me. IF your not jealous, why bring another fellow black person down for being different hmmm? White people were kind so try and explain that one to me. JENNIFER is from the WELSH LANGUAGE. What language is Laquinsha from?? Unless you think ghetto is a language which it seems you do.. (yikes)… I know the meaning of ALL my names so please, miss me with that made up bs… Yes their are plenty of articulate black people but this article hates them too and I highly doubt they will EVER defend the name Laquinsha.. #stopit

                  • Mika

                    Sounds like you googled your name, and did a copy and paste from wikipedia, good for you! I see you failed to put it was “given” several “possible” meanings. It can mean whatever you want it to mean. I’m not surprised to see you praise white people, very typical again from self-hating black foreigners, specifically Africans. Where’s your Nigerian name, oh that’s right you wanted to fit in so your family adopted a white girl name.

                    • Jennifer Ebunilo

                      Ummmm i CLEARLY said in my first post that my Nigerian name meant what God has given you or did just miss that part as youve missed a lot of things?? Yea i googled it a while back and it means several things to pertain to the language it came from. What language is Laquinsha from?? Im VERY proud to be Nigerian. Vey proud hence why i will claim Igbo before I ever claim American. Please don’t put your low self-esteem on me because I have a rich history. If anything can mean anything then your name Mika means clueless idiot. What English word means Laqunisha??? you say I have self hate but what language do you speak?? Is it english?? I think it is.. when black people migrated back to Africa, clearly your people didnt go with them but im filled with self-hate.. yea ok… you and this author truly fail.. #byefelicia

                    • Mika

                      Your real nigerian name is a “made-up” language from Nigeria. It’s very clear you’re not proud of your heritage because if you were you wouldn’t be going by the name Jennifer (A name usually given to white females.), but your given Nigerian name-Igbo—sad! Instead of you wasting so much energy trying to check me, which you’re doing a poor job at, how about you offer some energy into helping your people get those 300 Nigerian girls back that was taken by grown Nigerian men so they can sell them into sexual slavery. BYE JENNIFER LYNN or Idiot or whatever your name is.

                    • Guest

                      awwwww see the jealousy I was talking about?? My real Nigerian name is made up?? With that paragraph you have not only proven to me and the internet that you are un-educated but probably didnt finish middle school. HAHAHAHAHAHA! my language is made up?? please I dare you to go out into
                      the world and say that. You would never dare thats why you hide your
                      face online cuz you know your too stupid to show yourself. The world is helping to find our girls. Hell America in its own way cares more about us than you. Ya kill each other over Jordans and PS4s while the rest of the world laughing at you. White America know and are proud of where they came from but Africans will NEVER claim people like you. Your too dumb to be part of us. And hell yea I’d be proud of Jennifer Lynn. Even with my Nigerian name, I’ll still be above you trust. I have a culture and a history and my people are smart enough to scam you idiots. You talk about us scamming but whose falling for it?? No wonder your agree wholeheartedly with this post because your jealous your not educated; an educated person wouldnt say ignorant ish like “ooo your language is made-up.” Whats YOUR language? cant be English cuz thats the white mans. Why you speaking the white mans language? What country are you from originally? Because America is a land of immigrants. If you respond to this and do NOT answer these questions, then I and the world already know you concede defeat in this argument. So please stop embarrassing yourself.

            • Deathbunny

              Generally, most names are given meaning first and then used as names or derived from longer, meaningful names.

              While parent’s should be allowed to give their children whatever name they want, a name is like a tattoo everyone can see: It’s a message that–no matter what the person with it’s (or parent’s) intent, is subject to the other person’s interpretation and–in some cases–denying them that information is more useful than just hoping it won’t matter to them.

              Additionally, by giving a child a “stereotypical black name”, you’re ensuring that the person on the other end not only judges that child based on his or her race, but also on his or her CULTURE, for better or worse. And while you can end-run some prejudice through the HR department because they won’t see you until you show up for a face-to-face interview, you’re ensuring that every person along the line in the hiring process gets a chance to make a hiring decision for that child based on his or her name.

        • CommonSense JAckson

          You sound nuts. Any name can have a meaning? Oh, so you’re just going to invent an entire culture and history to connect your child’s name to as justification for the ghetto name you “blessed” them with? Nope, I don’t buy that warped logic. These “ghetto classy” names don’t necessarily hold anyone back but they make hard things difficult. You’d better have top grades and have the cure for cancer if you are looking for a job and your name is De’Jaquarius Hotpockets Jackson or Genitalia Washington. Its hard enough competing in this world of multi-competent people from all over the world who have three degrees and better grades and job experience than you. Why would ANY mature intelligent parent complicate things for their child by presenting their offspring with a made up, non standard, laughable name like De’Quantella LAClippers Simpson? Or even a standard name with a non-standard spelling? Like, John (Jahn), Mary (Mehri), Lionel (Lyonell). Why give your child ANY name that would prevent them from becoming President of the U.S or of a major corporation? (don’t laugh, I work in college admissions and these are the actual names of students in our database.

      • Isidra Person-Lynn

        Well, Condoleeza is a made up name and she seemed to ascend to high ranks just fine. And then there is Barack. And Oprah. Black names, African names. From Kwame to Kenneth, we make the name. The name doesn’t make us.

        • Stacey

          Her name almost sounds hispanic and she is light skinned, people could have easily assumed.

          But I kinda am that person shying away from those names although I see the value in them. When employers are looking for a black candidate, they will know you are and may choose to interview you.

        • Thasia

          Condoleeza is Italian, not made up

          • Isidra Person-Lynn

            I replied that my research says it is, FROM AN ITALIAN word. I posted the link but it was moderated. Google it.

          • KamJos

            Condoleeza is made up but is based off of the Italian Con dolcezza, meaning ‘with sweetness”

        • Laide Lawal

          Barack is not made up. African names have meanings. Thoughts are put into African names. We don’t just give our kids stupid names.

          • Isidra Person-Lynn

            Never said it was. I said “made up names, African names…”

            • hollyw

              What is a “made up African name”..? Did I miss something? I mean, there are African names and there are “ghetto” names…ijs.

              • Isidra Person-Lynn

                These emails keep coming so I am assuming you are addressing my comment. Perhaps I wasn’t clear in my initial remark. I was including BOTH made up names AND African names. Again my initial comment: “Well, Condoleezza is a made up name and she seemed to ascend to high
                ranks just fine. And then there is Barack (I should have said which is African). And Oprah. Black names,
                African names. From Kwame to Kenneth, we make the name. The name
                doesn’t make us.”

                As someone who has an atypical name — often mistaken as African– I appreciate names. All names. I try to spell them correctly (I corrected Ms. Rice’s name) and pronounce them correctly. And I am OK with whatever you answer to. I have visited Africa and learned the significance behind the names, but I do not think that a name meaning “born on Wednesday” as my husband Kwaku’s does is any more authentic or important that some of these other names those of us who teach struggle to learn. Some meld two names of cherished family members, etc. If I had to learn “Vlade” when he was a Laker, then surely I can learn Bonquisha. My students make me love them no matter the name.

                • diannna

                  The male version of your name is Isidro and it’s like a hispanic name, many latinos have that name back in the days I never heard of Isidra though but it’s a beautiful name.

                • maria

                  I understand that you’re insecure about your ghetto name, but your point isn’t valid Bonquisa.

              • diannna

                thank you, there are african and arabic names and ghetto names. I don’t have a problem with african or arabic names but the ghetto names have got to go lol

        • Alisha Dixon

          Condoleeza also swore she never experienced racism. She is not an example I would use as someone who “embraces” their race. Barack still get’s called a Muslim and Oprah is an entertainer…hasn’t hip hop shown us that entertainer can be named anything and become rich and famous. For everyday people, that ish don’t work.

          It’s just like people who say “Bill Gates and Steve Jobs didn’t finish college, so I don’t have to” Well, your not Gates or Jobs and their stories are not the norm. For every Barack Obama, there are 100 Deshawntons who never make it out of “entry-level” positions. Do your kid a favor and name them something other people can pronounce.

          • diannna

            condoleeza is lying

      • Laide Lawal

        In the Nigerian culture, education is a MUST so I don’t understand why wome people in the Black community in this country think it’s a bad thing or something to look down on. It may not make you a millionaire but it helps you to be able to think outside the box and ultimately secure a reasonable employment. By the way, my African name means “wealth has come’ so I do agree with you that African names have meanings however, I wouldn’t be so quick to judge how some Black Americans name their offsprings. I think it’s to get away from “white approved” names and to have their independence. Maybe we should be calling on Whites to stop their racism and stop basing their judgments of Blacks on skin color and names.

        • Isidra Person-Lynn

          My name is a name my father got from the Philippines. When folks started re-using African names, a man came to my office, saw my name plate and started emoting over why I changed my name to an African name. I countered “It was given to me at birth by my parents.” He didn’t believe me. Point is, made up or African, if it ain’t Becky, some folks–even your own folks, which this man was– will have a problem.

          • diannna

            a man came into your office and ASSumed you changed your name to an African name?
            Did he have a problem with it?
            Was this person white?
            What type of business were you doing?
            What business is of his what your name is.
            You should have not acknowledged his question simply because it’s not his business and very disrespectful and racist might I add.

    • coolyfett

      @Missy I think maybe you are being a little sensitive on this topic. I dont think the author was down playing education more so promoting humbleness and being down to earth. Wanting to have a better life is fine but the bougie attitude that this article covers is real. Nothing wrong with being academically educated, but acting like you better than others is lame.

    • Mika

      I’m sorry to bust your bubble, but ALL names were made up at some point, and someone put a meaning to it or NOT. This also applies to last names as well—made up. Just because an African American doesn’t want to give their child a name that millions of people already have doesn’t make them ignorant. I never hear this argument when White people name their children different names—like Apple, Aquinnah, Blue Angel, and Dweezil just to name a few. But of course it’s only “hood” or “black names” when black parents desire uniqueness when naming their brood—FOH!!!

      • KeepingItReal

        Mayn….I agree with you again… You must have taken your meds. Keep up the good work:)

        • Let It Be

          IM WEAK! lmao!

      • Herm Cain

        Common sense you know these crackers discriminate you know our black kids have a million strikes before birth why name your child some dumb sh*t so employment is a issue one day some are unique the majority of those names are flat out ghetto it’s almost like you women who applaud babymamahood are so selfish you don’t care about the repercussions your kids will suffer for plain stupidity

        • coolyfett

          Plus the population of America is growing making life a little more competitive. The more people the less jobs the more resumes HR departments have to go through. Why not have a competitive easy to read and pronounce name?

        • Stacey

          I agree, plus, how many people name, Kraeshawn, Deshawn, Braeshawn, do we know that shorten their names to Shawn on a Resume?

          • diannna

            Does anyone here know how these names got started in the first place? I remember back in the 60’s and 70’s these names were unheard of, I think these got started in the 80’s or something when cracked were poured into our streets, that’s when people went crazy and started doing all kinds of weird things

        • anonymouse

          so what are people to do about last names that are commonly associated with Black??
          They’re still gonna know or suspect that Alyssa Ashley Jackson is a Black girl

          • Isidra Person-Lynn

            I know… a White guy named Leroy is rare. But if you want to honor your dad named Leroy guess you’ll have to pass on naming yur child that, with some of this thinking ’round here.

            • anonymouse

              that’s so frustrating!! They’re still thinking about their kids working under somebody instead of being job creators. It’s a good thing that some people don’t think like that because I went to my sister’s school today and there were many Dr. Keishas and others with obvious Black names..etc who are professors.

      • bccc

        Tell em Mina! Just like the author said whether the kid name is lafawnda or Mary Ann, if she has the education and skills theres no denying her. I’m not naming my kid Susie to pretend to be something I’m not. If you don’t like marquishiana then he double hockey stick in a basket with you then.

        • Stacey

          Not really, you have to think about your child and not yourself. I understand where you are coming from. But I have a foreign name and hated people mispronouncing it, so I know it will be worse for Marquishiana, and 9 times out of ten if she goes to college, she will shorten it to Ana or something like Marq just to better her chances.

          I am black and I know that a Marquishiana can be very capable and professional but Whites and other races stereotype that type of name right off the bat. The will be watching her every word and counting her grammar mistakes. It will be harder for her. It’s just reality. Don’t set your child back any more than she already is when she is born.

          I think this is the reason LinkedIn includes the photo option.

          • MsLadyE

            Thank you!! I have an unusual name (I was named after my mother), and people constantly mispronounced and/or misspelled it. I don’t mind now because people will say things like, “That’s a pretty name”, or ask me what it means. The Marquishianas and DeAndres of the world will have to work at least twice as hard to succeed because people of other races (and even their own people) will stereotype them unfairly, regardless of how much education they have or how skilled they are.

      • JustSayin

        Regardless of what you think about the so called “hood” names please remember that other races are doing the same thing. There are people in China that are renaming their children because when their child comes to America their daughters name says, “Mie Tu” and they are often made fun of because America has this standard. So it is definitely not just a white thing or an asian thing or a black thing. It is an American thing. If a girl with a hood name has the education then yes; she will get the job above someone else and it won’t be because of the name. It is due to the attitude. What kind of name is Condoleezza or Oprah? Random. But; now you relate those names to excellence. Obama? Used to be considered an Muslim name and but it really Luos and means “takes ones own path.” So; it is not an educated black thing because many cultures have a naming ceremony in order to determine the path for the child. Quit making this a black thing. Black people are confused. First people want to be considered equal, then they want to point out what is all the issues within the race, then point out what is wrong with the people outside the race, it seems like it always something to discuss that at the end of the day? Doesn’t change anything.

        • Minister Nicole Walker

          Me personally, as a child I hated my name because I thought it to be a white persons name. As a very well educated adult, I still hate my name because of it!

        • MM

          Two wrongs don’t make a right! Just because other cultures have equally ghetto names doesn’t mean that we have to do the same. Stop acting childish, these names are horrendous and you know it. I’m not talking about Kenya, I’m talking about Laquesha. STOP THE MADNESS

        • MM

          Two wrongs don’t make a right! Just because other cultures have equally ghetto names doesn’t mean that we have to do the same. Stop acting childish, these names are horrendous and you know it. I’m not talking about Kenya, I’m talking about Laquesha. STOP THE MADNESS

      • diannna

        whites complain about apple, dweezil, moon unit, etc they are just not talked about as much.

      • amber

        Mika honey just give up already, everybody about to eat u raw on ds blog damn.

    • reallynoway

      You’re smart and it’s really refreshing to see someone speak with some sense on these threads.

    • Kenedy

      Thank you! This article is garbage! It sounds like it comes from an uneducated person

    • laquishia

      Get over yourself.

    • chaka1

      You don’t need an education to realize whoever wrote this is an idiot.

      • Check Please

        Exactly. Very well put.

    • @lifeandmorelife

      I hmmm I have a friend named LaKeisha who has an MBA and is in. PhD program. Married to an educator, also advanced degree, with one child and one in the way. Does that mean she’s hood because of her name or educated because of her college degrees? I just need some clarification.

    • lawfawndaquanishiatana

      Get over yourself!

    • Ashley

      Yes it’s true I’m 20 I’m in college 2 part time jobs no kids and love to read and learn. I just want to get an education establish a career and be in my own by 25. And alot of African American girls hate that abut me out think I’m STUCK up but praise beyonc even though she dropped out of high school and love and hip hop even though they act a fool why is that?

      • da truth

        What are you majoring in ?

        • JustDee

          Obviously, not an English major. O.o

      • Etover

        What is this family feud? Did you specifically survey ONLY African American females? Just curious because I find it hard to believe that every AA female you’ve come across was not as educated as you, and envious of such. Just sayin . . .

    • Kenya C. Easley

      Missy I agree! Why is “Educated Black” even a title/label to be used? You don’t see white people walking around talking about the “educated” portion of their race.

      • Stacey

        Men use this to boost themselves up. “I am an educated black man”

        Boo, you are supposed to be educated, you get no cookies for that.

        I have had this question for while though: What constitutes being an

        “educated black________” ?

        There are people that have graduated HS that say this.

        Or had 1 year of college and dropped out.

        Or don’t have any advanced degree and just read books.

        It’s just a catch all term for those that want to boost their standing with whoever they are speaking to/addressing at the time.

    • Alisha Dixon

      Hood names get you little except “passed over” when your application is being reviewed.

      Mothers, please note that the name you give your child may be “cute” or “clever” to you…but when that kid goes out into the world, that hood name becomes a burden. I have seen hundreds of applications thrown out right after someone tried to pronounce a name that was obviously “hood”. That’s the reality of our world.

      “Colorblind” is just some B*llsh*t HR term. If a black applicant has a name that seems too difficult to pronounce, they will get passed over. An Asian application won’t, but if it seems like English is not their first language, that application goes in the trash.

      White America does not like to upset its apple cart. They will hire anyone who can easily be absorbed into the company without being “too” different. Hood names are “too different”. No grasp of the English language is “too different”….and if you can’t speak professionally, you might as well not even apply. If you have these three things in your favor, you will at least get past the “pre-screening” of a job search.

      Heads up.

    • Miss MJ 91

      I can’t agree more with you! The funny thing is, that very few people acknowledge is that those who say you’re “acting white” or completely take education and classy behavior for granted are the same ones asking those “educated black folk” for handouts and believe they’re entitled to it. Keep this in mind: as for me personally, I am willing to use my so-called education and name dropping to help someone but what do you do when the “help” isn’t in the form of a handout? My mother was guity of this: giving relatives her hard earned money versus giving them the number to an employment agency or teaching them to invest money instead of spending it. Now that’s she’s a year buried, they think I will repeat her mistakes. I give them the number to an employment agency, books on investing, and some general, helpful conversation. I guarantee you (by their own affirmations) those books weren’t read, the employment agency never met them, and tge conversation fell on deaf ears.