Single Black Male: 5 Reasons Why Men Hate Ultimatums in Relationships

July 23rd, 2012 - By Vaughn Streetz

 

When a man gets into a relationship with a woman, he knows there’s certain concessions that he will have to make. He knows that compromise is essential, but there is going to be times where his woman will just talk about subjects that anger him. When a woman’s fed up, she uses one of the most powerful communications tools she has: the ultimatum. She will make a certain demand and require a specific action to be taken by her boyfriend, otherwise penalties will be incurred. As effective as this might be for woman, men HATE it! Let me articulate a few reasons why men hate ultimatums.

Men Don’t Like to be Directly Challenged

A man’s pride can be his greatest gift and his most hindering quality. We will let our pride guide our decisions for better or worse. The more strong willed the man, the more firm he is in his convictions. This actually shows a great contradiction with men in relationships. Most men like to be challenged by a woman. We don’t want a pushover or someone who will agree with anything we say. We like women who can think for themselves, have the same type of conviction in opinion, and can inspire a man to be better. However, when a woman presents an ultimatum to a man, you put the spotlight on his decisions. You directly try to force him to accept your way “or else”. Men don’t want to hear that! All men hear when they receive an ultimatum is that their opinion doesn’t matter, that she is the boss, and that you better shape up or bounce! Now, that may not be entirely accurate, but a man’s pride will serve as his personal hype man and urge him not to fold under pressure and to retaliate with ultimatums of their own, or a complete disregard for the words a woman speaks.

You are NOT the Father Mother!

Men don’t want to date their mothers. We remember when we were young boys and didn’t have a say in anything we did. Our mothers would lay out the ground rules and demand obedience. Eventually, when we come of age to somewhat challenge these rules, no matter the outcome (which was usually an A$$ whoopin), we would feel liberated. We knew that we earned a certain level of respect for standing up for ourselves and showing character, and the work we put in now would eventually translate into more trust, respect, and camaraderie with our parents. As adults, we don’t want to go through that fight again, especially with our significant others. So when you pose ultimatums to men, you invoke feelings of a parent who devalues a child’s opinion because they don’t know any better. They don’t want to feel “lesser than” and men will immediately hop into defense mode and battle you at every point. In other words, you talk to a man like he is a kid and he will react negatively.

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  • Rhonda Chambers

    At the end of the day, you can’t force anyone to love, respect, or marry you. If a person is not on board with want you want in life, you have to keep it moving. You’ll be lonely, but at least you won’t be anyone’s fool.

  • Viv

    I don’t give ultimatums. When I communicate, it is for clarity on both sides. It is, therefore, each person’s responsibility from there. I am not the “mom” and I don’t nag. When is enough is enough, then it is what it is, nothing more, nothing less… don’t need the stress. Jus’ sayin’… :)

  • msvirgo

    Ultimatums are never necessarry when both individuals are on the same page about the relationship and everything that coincides with it.

  • sandra

    i hate men’s ego. that’s why i’m happily divorced. i was not born to be controlled and i refuse to deal with men who are so insecure that they rely on EGO ugh men are so overrated. just to get them to act right you have to baby them…oh johnny i’m so sorry i don’t have a mind of my own please forgive me for having my own opinion, you really are the one in charge of me..GTFOHWTBS.

    • http://twitter.com/streetztalk Streetz da Mad @tter

      Wow. Is it about a mans ego or about communication? Damn…lol

  • DoinMe

    No one likes ultimatums, but if a person still can’t get it together after umpteen talks, the line has to be drawn somewhere. What’s funny and sad is that after that ultimatum has been put into place, that’s when the person decides to act right. SMH.

  • Ur Fine A$$

    ultimatums- I neither like or dislike ultimatums. I am not a indecision person. So fine, give me your ultimatum and I will considered/ponder if I can or will not meet the demand. If I will not then its time to leave it (subject matter or me) alone. Its hard to tell the other person that this is your limit without it sounding like a ultimatum. If its too soft than we often don’t get the urgency across and if its too hard -well the other has a tendency to withdraw. On the other hand, If I give you an ultimatum-its a warning shot that I am leaving for ** reason and i’m at least giving you one last opportunity. So many things in life is a do or don’t swim or drown situation. often your boss boss, friends, mother, etc want to know “is you or is you aint” gonna do it but in relationships we take it so personal. For example, the biological clock. This is what I need to do and if you not on board then love me enough to say so and we can let go!!!! and I wish well boo boo :)

  • Adrina

    “Most men like to be challenged by a woman. We don’t want a pushover or someone who will agree with anything we say. We like women who can think for themselves, have the same type of conviction in opinion, and can inspire a man to be better.”
    So why men complain about black women having too much of an opinion, aggressive, etc. #contradiction Just wondering…anyway…
    I can understand an ultimatim if you are discussing marriage because no one wants to waste their time waiting on a man (or woman) who doesn’t have that intention and he knows you do. For example, shacking up for years. That’s BS. But otherwise, you can stay or you can go. A simple choice especially when you’ve been dating a few months.

  • Anonymous

    That’s only 4 reasons, not 5. Count much???

    • http://twitter.com/streetztalk Streetz da Mad @tter


      As for the 5th reason? I will leave that for you to answer! Let us know why men hate ultimatums.” Reading is FUNdametal #Message

  • Candacey Doris

    Women don’t like ultimatums given to them either! If something needs to change, have a goo talk and ask instead of ordering. How would you like it if he said change your hair or I’m out the door? Or if he orders you to stop doing something you love when it’s not a big deal. If you find yourself giving orders, something is wrong between the two of you. I’m not talking about orders like “cheat on me an your a$$ is gone” or “keep your crazy baby mama away from me”. Stop trying to make him change everything about him. It doesn’t work an it only hurts the relationship. He’ll change if he wants to, or more importantly, if he wants you.

    One thing that i found funny here is that some men do indeed try to date their mamas! Every once in awhile you find a guy that likes you because you’re just like his mother. And you end up acting like her. It’s all good if you don’t mind, but it’s weird to me.

  • xyzebra

    The ultimatum only needs to be invoked on the issue of marriage. If two people are together and one wants marriage and the other does not, there’s no need to hang in there like a starving actress auditioning for the part of wife. Keep it moving.

    • Nope

      I agree. And the person giving the ultimatum needs to be okay with the possibility of hearing the word No, and that it doesn’t make the other person a bad person.

    • TRUTH IS

      Exactly, my point!!

    • xyzebra

      @Nope, @Truth Is – of course. This is not a bluff or manipulation. A person may not want to marry, marry you, or marry anytime soon. Both partners need to find what they need, with or without each other.

    • WHOISBSQUARED?

      *CHUURCH?

  • TRUTH IS

    If you have to give a man ultimatiums, leave him. Real men dont need that, they put your feelings first and will act on that, esp if they do not want to lose you.

    • Nope

      This sounds foolish and selfish. The point he was making is that it’s all about compromise for BOTH people, not just one always expecting to get their way and pouting when the don’t (a lot of women).

      • TRUTH IS

        Who have committment issues more?!? Men or women?!? Ok, then!!

        • Nope

          “committment issues” is a very relative phrase. Oftentimes women are committed to men that really didn’t owe them anything in the first place. For example, a lot of women like men that don’t really like them back in the same way, if at all. Another example is for most men dating is the textbook definition which is exploring options, but to a lot of women dating means being on the path to a relationship and marriage. I’d say about 7/10 a man didn’t really owe the woman anything at the end of the day, she just got her feelings hurt because the movie playing out in her head didn’t happen in real life.

          • Kimster

            And that’s what these 7/10 men whom you’re referencing in your comment say to help themselves sleep at night. The same 7/10 men who most likely give and get all of the aspects out of a committed relationship only to turn around and say, “oh, were you for real in this? I was just ‘exploring my options’”. That’s a weak cop out.

            • Nope

              So those women are held in these relationships and ‘relationships’ at gunpoint?

          • http://twitter.com/streetztalk Streetz da Mad @tter

            THANK YOU! You know how many of these BS articles popped up about Women who don’t have boyfriends? That could be seen as a commitement issue, that you can’t get a commitement. Not sayin I cosign those articles, but commitement issues are relative!

          • Adrina

            “Another example is for most men dating is the textbook definition which is exploring options, but to a lot of women dating means being on the path to a relationship and marriage.”
            This is VERY true. I agree, but this is where communication comes in. Let someone know: are you dating for marriage or options? And be prepared for the answer. And fellas don’t get upset when she explore her options.

          • Rhonda Chambers

            No when it comes to men black men in particular, the woman got her feelings hurt because she was lied to and manipulated. Men rarely are upfront about what they want from a woman. The majority of the time, they just want her body. And deceptive men will say what you want to hear to get what they want. That’s why I’m celibate and don’t trust them any of them.

          • Rhonda Chambers

            I was dating this guy whose whole life was a big lie. He was one way on his facebook page, and another way on the phone. The more research a woman does, the more lies she will find. Thank God, I found out what a phony this guy was before it got serious. I spy, background check, whatever I have to do find out if you are who you say .These men out here are liars.

    • lol

      Single much? lol

      • TRUTH IS

        Lol…i guess. I wont stick with someone who clearly doesnt want me/value my worth!!

    • Nope

      If a person can’t say no, then their yes means nothing.

    • http://twitter.com/streetztalk Streetz da Mad @tter

      Why do you feel that a “real man” wouldn’t get ultimatums placed upon them? Its a communication issue! Sometimes we don’t know if we are doing wrong and we need to be talked ot or it brought to our attention. If you see a pattern that you dont like you are more than in your right to end the relationship, but dont say a real man wouldnt need ultimatums. Why would a “real woman” give ultimatums? Slippery slope!

      • DeepThinker

        Communication is the key!

  • Nope

    Most women crown themselves relationship experts for the simple fact they obsess over them more than men do. This alone is pretty demeaning. Most women also enter relationships with a ready made template of how they want their man to be exactly what they want from him in a relationship…… sometimes before they even met or he even had a say in the matter. When this mold doesn’t fit perfectly (and it never will) problems happen, and of course those problems are blamed mostly on him.

    • KitKatCuty84

      I agree no one should have a ready-made idea of their ideal mate. An idea, sure. A guideline, definitely. And don’t confuse not knowing the man you WANT and knowing dang well what you truly NEED from a man in a relationship.

      That being said, I could bring up about 80 zillion articles online of MEN coming up with their dream WOMEN and then dumping them when their toe nails and finger nails are plum and red. Understand that reality will give you a variation on what you’ve always wanted, perhaps better than what you imagined.

      And yes, women obsess over relationships more than men. We really should STOP. Like seriously. It occurred to me like two years ago that I was driving myself crazy reading articles from every Tom, Richard & Harry about how to understand men, how to be the perfect woman, how to get him to marry me, how to tell if he was cheating, blah blah blah. All that for a bunch of dudes who were barely asking their FRIENDS and FAMILY for relationship advice. Stop killing yourselves in effort for people who almost never are doing the same for you.

      It was said to me and I didn’t believe it, but it’s true: Stop worrying about it and it will happen. I met my dude at my birthday drinks right after work. Wasn’t wearing anything special, didn’t care about anything but my soul food and mojito. Then bang, we met and had EVERYTHING in common. And I haven’t had to read ONE dang article on how to understand him and when it’s time to give him an ultimatum, because we communicate and things happen naturally. Food for thought.