Does Dating White Trump Your Black Card?

February 6th, 2012 - By Brande Victorian

A friend of mine often gets labeled a self-hating negro. He’s black, young, vocal about issues that need to change in the black community, and as you may have guessed from the title of this article, married to a white woman.

He’ll often rant about how ridiculous the assumption is and I tell him from the outside looking in, I can see how people would draw that conclusion. Yes, he does a lot of good things in the black community, but not everyone is aware of them. And when all you see is a black man with a white woman who exposes a lot of issues about his people, it tends to scream modern-day Uncle Tom.

I thought about his experience more as I read responses to Brian White’s recent comments on black women and stereotypes. While some were in agreement with his stance, the majority of those who didn’t argued that he has issues with black women, as evidenced by his non-black wife. While I wasn’t in agreement with Brian’s generalizations about what “the majority of black women” act like, the questioning of the legitimacy of his argument because of who he’s married to made me wonder whether your ability to speak out on issues in the black community is trumped when you date outside your race?

When it comes to Brian, I think the most damaging part of his interview was the wording. It’s evident he has an issue with how black women are portrayed on TV—as many black women do—but the problem is that he presented the portrayals as true-life representations, and seemed more interested in proving that point than suggesting ways to combat the stereotypes or identify the many women who don’t fit those images—besides Taraji or Gabrielle. There was certainly an underpinning of “my mom and sisters aren’t crazy but the rest of ya’ll black women are,” in his responses, but if he was married to a black woman would that change the message? Would it have been better received?

As more black women begin to date outside of their race, I wonder whether this type of “he’s got a white woman anyway” dismissal will come back to bite us. Will black women’s comments on the black community and black men come to be dismissed for self-hating because they’re romantic partner isn’t black? Is that a fair assumption?

In general we tend to look at black men dating outside of their race as a way to get away from black women and black women dating outside of their race because there are no decent black men left. Those are two very different reasons and ones that garner different reactions. We say “go girl, and forget black men” when it’s us dating interracially but we think, “black woman issues” when it’s a man doing the same thing and from that point on, they are severely limited in their ability to critique black people in general. Are black women headed down that same path?

I can admit I’ve been guilty of it. When I wrote an article about repairing relationships between black men and black women, one women went off terribly about black men and how they’ve mistreated her and aren’t worth much and when I saw her husband is white, I immediately disregarded her opinion. In that instance, I took her stance and her choice of a partner as evidence of her hatred for black men and proof that she couldn’t make a legitimate statement about them that wasn’t based in that disgust. More than being rubbed the wrong way, I thought, you’ve given up on black men anyway, why do you care about relationships between black men and black women?

It wasn’t a fair reaction but it’s one that’s typically put on black men and has the potential to come right back on us as we broaden our dating pool. It’s also something I’ve thought about personally. If I were to date outside my race would it be odd to be so down for my people yet not have one of my own on my side, but as things currently stand, it seems black women get a pass.

Does having a white woman automatically make you dismissive of black men’s criticisms about black women? Do you think black women will soon fall into that same group or do they have more freedom to be critical while dating interracially?

Brande Victorian is a blogger and culture writer in New York City. Follower her on Twitter at @be_vic.

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  • BlackXMessiah

    In short yes it does make you an uncle tom. How can a black person be “pro black” if he’s not preserving the genes of his race? Try to imagine a “pro-white” guy with a black woman doesn’t make any sense does it?

  • BlackXMessiah

    In short yes it does make you an uncle tom. How can a black person be “pro black” if he’s not preserving the genes of his race? Try to imagine a “pro-white” guy with a black woman doesn’t make any sense does it?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cornelius-Tacitus/100003589530809 Cornelius Tacitus

    How many people that have called someone an “Uncle Tom” have ever read the book?  Just wondering.

  • Guest

    If you criticize inter-racial relationships for any reason, you are racist – it is no more simple than that.

    The only possible reason you can have to crit such a relationship is because you are hung up on race.

    If you believe a black man should only date black women, you are, in fact, racist.

  • Whiteguy

    the guy in the photo has a fake glass eye….just sayin’

  • Guest

    This article has a strong racist apearance. Because of who someone chooses to date dtermines their credibility???????????????????????????? You should pay attention to their argument and take it for what it is. What, because I marry an asian woman I can’t debate politics? Doesn’t that sound racist as well?

  • http://www.tearyne.net/blog Flippant Anubis

    This happens to me all the time. I am a Black woman but have had non-Black partners. It’s why I keep my mouth shut and just do me now. Somehow the fact that the person I’m with is not black means that I hate myself and my people and that my suggestions are invalid. I’m not worried about people who aren’t worried about me.

  • Terry Jay

    Really, I couldn’t relate to this article at all. Outside of the assumptions that bm and bw constantly bash each other (not in my experiences), interracial dating — seen through my eyes –  is the result of the black race simply being consumed by white (or vice verse).  People who chose to date/marry outside of their race have simply allowed themselves to be absorbed by the current majority. Or have lost love for self and have no interest in extending/strengthening their own bloodlines.

    • JackieSixty

      “Have lost love for self and have no interest in extending/strengthening their own bloodlines” sounds exactly like the lines the white supremacists use to attempt to justify their own racism.

  • Baiaforever

    In my view a lot of black men who date and marry white women are uncle tom negros. Look at Bryan Gumble or Wesley snipes. And look on youtube at the myriad of black men putting down black women and celebrating that they have a white woman. In my view a lot of black men have not done their share in supporting and holding up the black community. In fact many of them tear it down with violence, drugs and crime and then run looking for a white woman. Until many of these men put in the hard work in building up their communities they will continue to get this stigma. Secondly many of them have never tried dating a black woman and having a successful relationship. All of the black woman i know that date interracially did. secondly they are not involved in the blck community until they get in trouble with white people and them come back looking for support. Think O.j. Simpson.

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  • WL805

    I am a white guy who has had serious relationships with black women.  The relationships were very much the same as any other relationship when you just look at it from a one-on-one perspective.  Two people in love with each other, with a lot in common, but a few differences. Takes work and commitment.  Also though, you need a common goal or vision of where you want to go and how you will live your lives, particularly with kids.  At that point, it isn’t a matter of skin color… it’s who you are as a person.
    So for me, the issues have ususally centered around “cultural/value” stuff.  Mother-dominating vs father-dominating vs equal sharing? Showing affection? Trash talking/swearing? Importance of physical relationship?  respecting each other? financial goals/saving plan?… think you get it… just normal relationship stuff.
    There is not magic tho.  The “grass is always greener (blacker/whiter) on the other side” is always a just a myth.
    But, as my young son excitedly told me… “just think dad, one day, after hundreds of years from now, there will be just one race. won’t that be cool”.  Besides being statistically correct, I love how he thinks… I hope the rest of us can follow.

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