Does Attending An HBCU Hurt Future Earnings Potential?

February 23rd, 2011 - By TheEditor

"hbcus"By Brittany Hutson

Are HBCUs still relevant? It’s the recurring question that has been seen in many op-ed pieces as of late, but in lieu of this question comes another—are students who choose to attend a historically black college over an elite college hurting their future earnings potential?

The New York Times recently addressed this question on their Economix blog in “The Declining Payoff From Black Colleges,” in which they cite a 2007 study conducted by Roland G. Fryer Jr., a professor of economics at Harvard University, and Michael Greenstone, a professor of economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who conclude that it is in fact true that students who graduate from an HBCU will suffer a “wage penalty.”

In the study, the professors compare the earnings potential of HBCU graduates in the 1970s to the 1990s, stating that HBCU matriculation was associated with higher wages and an increased probability of graduation, as opposed to a traditionally white institution, back in the 1970s. But by the 1990s, HBCU graduates suffered from a 20% decline in wages.

The professors used many variables during their research, including family income, parents’ education, test scores, high school grades, college majors, post-secondary education, and location in the southern region of the U.S.

What is the cause of this wage decline? According to Fryer and Greenstone, it is due to the possibility that in recent years, HBCUs have not done a superb job of educating their students and preparing them for post-college life, as have traditionally white institutions.

“There is stronger evidence that the later HBCU matriculates were less satisfied with their choice of college and reported developing fewer leadership and social skills that are valuable in post-college life,” wrote Fryer and Greenstone.

Tuanni Price, a senior accounts payable manager for Demand Media, disputes that idea that HBCUs hurt future earnings potential. “Both my husband and I graduated from Grambling State University and earn in the top tier of our respective fields,” she said. “We both earn over $80K annually. What is more important is acquiring marketable job skills, experience, confidence, contacts and asking for what you are worth.”

The New York Times suggest that the wage decline could be attributed to the career fields that HBCU graduates choose to venture into, which they cite as generally being in the nonprofit and public sectors. Fryer and Greenstone concur, stating that “on the positive side, HBCU attendees became relatively more likely to be engaged in social, political, and philanthropic activities.”

HBCUs bestow as many as 40% of degrees in science, technology, engineering and mathematics [STEM], educate half the country’s black teachers and 40% of blacks in health professions, all of which are mid to high level income occupations, but interestingly, neither the Times nor the study reflect on this.

Though Sheryl Jones, a life coach and graduate of Southern University in Baton Rouge, La., admits that she believes her earning potential was hurt because her school did not have up-to-date equipment, she believes that her professors were “superior.”

“I think overall I have done well in life because of my education at a HBCU,” she said. “I think some students may not do as well because there’s a lack of funding and endowments at HBCUs than at traditionally white institutions”

“I have sorority sisters who are doctors, college professors, lawyers and one started a video game company using HBCU athletes,” added Jones. “I really think this is just another negative story about HBCUs.”

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  • ASUGRAD06

    One more thing, most students that attend HBCU's are low-income individuals and even with help from financial a student wouldn't even be able to maintain. The simple fact that a person chose to attend college speaks highly of that person. Blacks are the only race that hate on each other the most instead of uplifting one another. I guess its because we are so use to not having and when we accomplish something we can only put each other down (to make ourselves feel better) because many of the other races already have what we are trying to obtain.

  • ASUGRAD06

    It's funny to listen to black people dogging each other on this website because if it wasn't for HBCU's we wouldn't be able to attend "white" institutions. I went to Alabama State and majority of my professors were everything but black. I received my Masters from a "white" institution and still no increase in pay. We must keep in mind regardless of what school you attended you are still black. Depending on what career field you fall into and the dire need, blacks will always make less than whites. I think it's gettig better as far as the opportuity to advance in ones current job, but the pay will never be what is deserved even with the advancement.

  • M.S.

    After going to school in DC. I always found it interesting how people would frown their nose up about going to Howard for undergrad. But those same people would flock to go to Law, Med, or Dental school because they couldn't get into GW or Georgetown and realized they could get the same education at Howard for half the cost.

  • Cole

    I am a HBCU undergraduate. But, I got my Master's at a lily white university in Texas. I took the GMAT and competed with those folks. I think the choice of study in any College has far more importance. I make over $80,000 and would rather make over $200,000 but life is full of choices, twists and turns, That close net bubbas hiring bubbas, who you know and not what you know, unfair hiring, you get the job if you just show up white, discrimination looms. And I can name several less than qualified (than me) that were helped along (white folks) They play the game well. Yes, HBCU's have problems. We just allow ours to be put out there in open discussion far too much. We all know dynamic intelligent minorities and rag bags. You can't judge a book by the cover. Stop lumping us together. HBCU's are far better at ensuring minorities will actually earn a degree. Yes there are problems. But HBCU's are absolutely necessary. Watch out for the uncles out there.

  • Eva

    Its just sad that the value of an education is now weighed by the dollar sign you bring in.

  • e rizzle

    The study by Fryer et al is a few years old. But this article does not do it full justice. Yes, many graduates of Black Colleges make less money. But overall, they are happier, better adjusted, and more likely to have more complete social lives. That is not my opinion. That is what the study also says, but that is not as glamorous or provocative. Is having a more money more important than being happy and satisfied? Your choice. of course, I went to an HBCU. And then I went to a top tier business school. And I have to say, I am not impressed by the attitudes and the aptitude of the black students who had attended White schools, including top white schools (Stanford, Cornell, others). And yes, my GMAT scores were much higher than theirs, as well.

  • Kammi

    The article failed to mention the graduation rate for Black students who go to majority white universities. The article also neglected to mention Black students who don’t go to HBCU’s will have to work 2x as hard and hope to make C’s. I attended two HBCU’s and graduated from the latter. I chose an HBCU because I wanted the experience my parents had where they were treated as equal because the students were of the same race as well as professors. I have always been a good student and I wanted to have a fair chance and be academically assessed fairly. I had the rest of my life after college to work 2x as hard as whites and living by 2 sets of rules for 2 different colors. Not to mention I did not want to live with them in a dorm.

    When Berkley got rid of race recognition into Med School, admission dropped to a low 2%. Thank goodness our students have alternatives where they can study their field, not have to deal with stupidity such as cotton thrown on dorm floors or blackface and afros with nooses as halloween costumes. They can earn tools that will help even the terribly uneven playing field. As long as it is equal, separate, I have no problem with. Integration did not start because we wanted to go to school with them, but because the separate was not equal. HBCU’s are a different story. The separate is equal and I loved it!!

    HBCU’s have produced Dr. King, Oprah, Phylicia Rashad, Debbie Allen, Willie Gary, Tom Joyner, Wendy Raquel Robinson, Matthew Knowles, Julian Bond, and too many others to name. They are very relevant!

    • sorry

      you mean they WERE relevant.

      yes, all of those great individuals went to HBCUs when they were relevant and necessary.

      that's no longer the case.

  • missbeauty

    I agree with you the most Candy. I do not agree with this study. Okay, the harsh reality is that politics will always be involved in anything and everything you do in life. A recruiter may see Harvard on a resume compared to one with Hampton University – guess which one at first glance they will choose(majority of time)? My point is that the road does not stop there!

    Everyone is different…pursuing different careers, changing careers, switching locations…etc I know people who are content doing what they love to do rather than a job where they could be making six figures. Some people with masters, phDS from other schools like Princeton or Yale are jobless. It has nothing to do with them not being qualified because they are.. or the fact they graduated from a HBCU like this study is saying. This study failed to mention the high unemployment rates, teacher lay offs…etc with the state of the economy. I mean it could be so many factors whose really to say?

    Despite all the factors that may try to hinder you from pursuing your goal, it’s about ambition…it’s about persistence…and believing that you can do it.

    Oh, this is coming from a proud HBCU graduate-one of the top HBCU’s- Spelman College!!!!

  • missbeauty

    I agree with you the most Candy. I do not agree with this study. Okay, the harsh reality is that politics will always be involved in anything and everything you do in life. A recruiter may see Harvard on a resume compared to one with Hampton University – guess which one at first glance they will choose(majority of time)? My point is that the road does not stop there!

    Everyone is different…pursuing different careers, changing careers, switching locations…etc I know people who are content doing what they love to do rather than a job where they could be making six figures. Some people with masters, phDS from other schools like Princeton or Yale are jobless. It has nothing to do with them not being qualified because they are.. or the fact they graduated from a HBCU like this study is saying. This study failed to mention the high unemployment rates, teacher lay offs…etc with the state of the economy. I mean it could be so many factors whose really to say?

    Despite all the factors that may try to hinder you from pursuing your goal, its about ambition…it’s about persistence…and believing that you can do it.

    Oh, this is coming from a proud HBCU graduate-one of the top HBCU’s- Spelman College!!!!

  • callitlikeiseeit

    i'm a minority (African American) and I'm sorry, but I feel HBCU's, at least all the ones in NC (WSSU, NCCU, Shaw, A&T, St. Aug, Elizabeth City State, Fayetteville State) have been a complete waste of state funds. When I meet and discuss any issue with any student who has matriculated (whether or not they graduated) I can only wonder what goes on in the learning environment. As such, I opted to take two summer classes at one and I was thoroughly shocked and embarrassed by the caliber of student and conduct that this institution allowed.

    I would not want any of their "teachers" to retard the learning of my child, nor any of their "nurses" to place a band aid on the womb!
    My child WILL NOT attend an HBCU!

    • youhavenohope

      Sorry, but your school is a complete waste of state and federal funds!

      many of these HBCUs (mainly WSSU) are a mere waste of funds that could be better appropriated to a university where students actually graduate (HIGHEST number of reported 4-yr graduates from WSSU is 44%). get serious people! this schools may have been relevant in NC 30+ years ago, but now they're only "educating" people i can barely even refer to as students.

      yes, i will give it to NCCU's law school, which is actually a wonderful institution that is merely overshadowed by their pitiful undergraduate program. They would do better to shut the undergraduate department altogether and only graduate law students. i'd rather burn my tax dollars than spend another red dime on any HBCU undergraduate program (which will NEVER be relevant again).

      when you start graduating competent BA holding students, then we can talk :)

    • LMAO

      sorry, WSSU you're no Howard, Hampton, Morehouse, or Spelman.

      you're not nationally or internationally known. you're not even known state-wide. your institution ran its course when it was needed and now the ride is over. time to get off and call it a day.

      have you talked to any recent WSSU undergrads? it's a wonder some of them graduated from kindergarten :-D

  • opinionated me

    I often wonder this sometimes too as a Junior in college and after attending two separate HBCU's one of the being Howard University I'm not sure if I still see the advantage of going to one other than the memories and friends I've made which seems to be about as good as it gets for HBCU's (to me) don't get me wrong I def think there's no experience like one but when I came to Howard University fall 10 expecting nothing but the best and was given reality (take it as you want) I'm definitely ready to pack it up and transfer again. Now it may be dependent on your major whether a school will best suit your needs or not. But now a days most of the time your paying for tuition which is expensive unless you have scholarships and financial aid; which not everyone qualifies for and scholarships are hard enough itself, your not graduating with a guaranteed job, let alone one given (not necessarily handed to you but brought to your attention) to you. now I can't speak for white schools because I haven't attended one but from the outside looking in it seems like they have a better benefit from college than we do. HBCU's to me are the modern day "Separate but Equal" where of course nothing is equal, we're getting a education just like they are can someone please tell me the difference?

    • Consultant

      What were you doing while at Howard? The career fairs at Howard University are some of the largest in the country. The leadership has done a solid job of positioning Howard as a one stop shop for "minority" talent. The school's facilities are nothing to brag about but their career opportunities are significant. If you don't see the opportunities there then you aren't taking the time to leverage the experience. I do not mean to sound rude but if you don't find something at Howard then you probably wouldn't be able to find a job anywhere else.

  • Nikki

    This article is bs. Why don’t they do a study on online for profit schools… See how much this ‘White’ school graduates get paid.

  • that’s crazzy crazzy

    Yep every time my HBCU relatives and friends dog me out about being a Northwestern grad I hit them the stats and talk about the big roaches I saw in their dorm rooms!

    • S.A.M.

      OK, You are an idiot! I went to the University of Chicago for a masters and PhD after attending an HBCU as an undergrad and the only time I EVER saw rats on a campus was when I visited one of my best friends who attended Northwestern. In addition, I am a faculty member at a very large, esteemed institution, and it has mice and roaches, as do many academic institutions. I could give you a list of top schools that have pests. I wouldn't expect someone so "well-educated" to make such ridiculous comments.

      The reality is that a lot of the students that attend HBCUs may not even have the same opportunities if they went to the large mainstream institutions because we are systematically excluded in the career process. Every type of school has its place in the spectrum. Just as all HBCUs are not created equal, neither are all white schools. You can't compare Harvard or Chicago to Florida State in any measure except that the majority of students are white.

      Our graduation rates and pay rates often lag at many schools. This article doesn't mention the harsh reality that placement rates, unemployment rates, savings rates, home ownership rates, and any other rates that are statistically measured show that we are lagging other communities. Please come up with a new theme!

      • Sony1220

        PREACH!

    • ASUGRAD06

      It's funny how you try to dog HBCU's when they were built when negroes were not allowed into the white schools. Just because you went to a "white" institution does not mean that you are any better. Keep in mind that many blacks attending HBCU's because they wanted to and not because they weren't smart enough. Blacks were just recently began attending white colleges in the 60's and the main reason was for athletics.

  • Ktradez

    Not surprising @ all