“I’m The Happiest I’ve Been In A Long Time”: Tina Knowles Talks Divorcing Mathew Knowles And Finding Love Again At 60

October 6, 2014  |  

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While talking as a keynote speaker at the International Women & Money Leadership luncheon in Houston, Tina Knowles opened up for the first time about her life, deciding to end her marriage to Mathew Knowles and finding love again at the age of 60. One big theme in her speech was her refusal to let people and things take away her spirit and her resilience. “I had to fight for myself.” Here are the details we thought you should know:

Starting Her Own Business As Her Marriage Started Falling Apart:

For four years I didn’t work, I just kept my daughter. And then things got really rocky and my marriage got very tumultuous. I was having all these problems and I was like, “What have I done? I’ve been out of the job market for four years.” Self-esteem low. “What do I do now?” In the process of that time I had started beauty school and I had maybe three months to last with that.

After I got pregnant, my marriage just got really bad and I knew I had to do something. So I got very focused about going to school. By the time I had the baby, I already had a clientele. I built a little salon at my house and I’d do hair and I built up my clientele. Eight weeks after I had my baby, I took her to her paternal grandmother and I said, “Listen, you gotta keep her cause I gotta open up a business,” because I would never be in this position again. I would never be totally dependent on someone. I would never give up myself. I opened my business and it was such a success story…it was a labor of love. That adversity of me having this bad marriage caused me to go and do something about my situation. I can get complacent and start taking care of everybody but myself.

How She Ruined Destiny’s Child’s First Record Deal:

You know the story of Destiny’s Child. The first deal that they had, I was the first person to open my big mouth to the people that signed them. The guy told me, “Well, this is going to change their lives and you should stop being so square. You should stop being so protective and get with it.” They were actually exposing the girls to things that I just didn’t feel were appropriate for them to be so young.

Well, he wound up telling me to get out of his office, take the kids home and don’t bring them back. So I’m devastated because I have to go and tell these kids I messed up their deal. So I wound up doing that and again, God just showed up. In three months they got a way bigger and better deal. That has been the nature of my life. Even me starting my clothing line, there had to be turmoil. There had to be something that caused me to have to change so that I could get up and do what I had to do.

Ending Her Marriage At The Age Of 58:

One day my world just exploded and I knew that I had to get a divorce. And at 58 years old, that’s a very hard difficult thing. It does something to your whole self-esteem and psyche, because I had been married for 33 years. I knew that I didn’t have a choice but to do that. It was a very hard time. I was very sad. The amazing thing is, when you look at someone else, you look at them and say, “They’re attractive. They have a lot of good stuff going on for them. They have no right to have low self-esteem. They have no right to feel sorry for themselves.” Well, it doesn’t matter who you are, what you are, what you’ve done, what you look like, or what you have. You’re a person, you’re a human being. And when something strikes you like that, it takes the breath out of you.But my fight came back. I let myself feel sorry for myself for a minute and then I said, “you know, I’m so blessed to have all the opportunities that I have. And I don’t have the right to feel sorry.”

How Divorce Made Her Focus On Herself:

It gave me the courage to take some time off. I started reading my art books. I love art but I had never had the time. I started traveling. I would travel with my daughter, but not to work! I would say, “No I’m not working.” I had my girlfriend who made me laugh. I would send for her and she would come and come on the road because she’s as crazy as I don’t know what — in a good way!

And we would go to museums, we would go to lunch and we would just laugh. And I just really had forgotten how to live. I had just lost all of myself so I realize now that part of the low self-esteem was, yes, being 58 and having to start all over again, and the other part is that I just lost myself. That I was so busy working and going and taking care of everybody else that I just forgot about Tina. So I would tell my kids, “You know what, you can call me and I’ll be there if it’s really something important, but otherwise, I’m taking care of Tina. This is my selfish moment.” And before I knew it, I started liking me again.

Being Scared To Date Again While Mathew Gets Married For A Second Time:

The whole thing about dating was the scariest thing in the world! I would tell my friends, “Where am I gonna find somebody at 59 years old? Where do you meet men? Where do you get them? They’re all gone.” It was really funny so I just focused on myself.

I hear that my ex-husband is getting married. Now this is my family. My ex-husband is my family. I don’t want to get back into that at all, that’s not what I want. But it still hurts a little bit, right? It’s still a blow to your ego. So I call my crazy friend Monica to take care of me the week of the wedding.

Now, in the meantime, one of my best friends, Vernell, is getting married, and guess who the wedding planner is? [points to herself]. So I’m having to do photoshoots, I’m having to smile, I went to get her dress, I did a video, all of these things, which was really tough for me I have to tell you, because it’s a week after my ex’s wedding. I’m going through all of this, so I call my friend Monica and she comes to LA and she says, “Oh Tina, you gotta get out. Let’s go out and see some men!” I was like, “I don’t know where to find em!” So she gets on the phone and she calls up an old friend of ours.

Getting To Know An Old Friend Better–Richard Lawson:

I been knowing him for 33 years. His sister was one of my best friends and she died of breast cancer 20 years ago. Some of you might remember that I had this handsome guy who was on “Dynasty” at the time and he was an actor and he was on “All My Children” at the time. I brought him down and the women went crazy over him. He hosted my show. He’s an old friend, like family.

So Monica called him up and we went by his acting school and he took us out to eat afterwards and my friend says, “Okay Richard! Do you know any men?” And he’s like, “Well, what’s she looking for?” So I say, “You know, I want somebody with integrity, that believes in God, that likes to dance, likes to have fun and appreciates art.” And he’s like, “Oh! Well, what about me?” And we both say, “Hell no!” So he says, “Okay, well, I’ll see who I can think of.”

So the next night he took us out dancing and we just had a good time. He said “Well, can we get away from Monica?” cause Monica just takes over the conversation. So we went to lunch and he said, I want to support you during this time because Mathew — he’s friends with Mathew, too — he just got married yesterday. But look at the timing here. Before that time I was not ready. I did not have closure. But talk about God being right on time. We had this great lunch and he said, “I want to support you during this time. I’m going to come to Houston.” So he came to Houston, I went to LA afterwards, and it’s been now a year and five months.  I’m in a committed relationship with that handsome man! And I’m the happiest I’ve been in a long, long time.

Love it! Tina is happier than she’s been in a long time, and she looks amazing too. Check out her speech below and get inspired.

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  • deschl

    you go girl

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  • Aniyah Sydney Renne Tifari

    Happy birthday tina


    It appears that Miss Tina said all that, only to state that she’s currently dating to the world, and several find that to be exciting, however ! it could be, and it will be, ( A Personal opinion: much to soon, absolutely no time to find herself, and grieve should she want and or need to, and she will, outsiders encouraging her to do this or that, should stay in their place, unless they have experienced such a hurt and pain for themselves , Spend time enjoying yourself being single again, minus the dating, note: Dating and or seeing someone doesn’t remove the issue, just patience and time. Being involved with someone for so many . Years isn’t just going to go away over night. Pray about the situations, and let things happen naturally, k keep your mind occupied during those weak moments

  • Cie Be

    Miss Tina, thanks for sharing your story…..Beauty for ashes is your portion….you stayed the course!!! GOD Bless you!

  • evangeline milling

    I am so happy to see her happy! And with fine, strong, sweet and kind Richard Lawson?!! Even better! Congratulations Tina and thank you from those of us who are going through the same journey, trying to reach the other side! You are truly an inspiration!

  • Simone Tinsley

    From tears to cheers!!!!! Truly a must see for all teenage girls. Happy for you Tina!!!!!

  • Lenne Graves

    Some men ..can take the breath out of your chest..with their actions and decisions they make without any consent from you….but.. GOD..breaths..
    it right back in you… to create a new life for you…GOD BLESS..the new and better you…

  • currvalicious

    Very open, honest & refreshing. I don’t think anyone expected this from her, so it’s a pleasant surprise. that’s what being truly happy & comfortable from within will do for you.

  • Ottreya Bond

    Beautiful testimony and very inspiring. I’ve often wondered what her story was because I knew she made several sacrifices as a mother….so glad she shared her story.

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  • Linda M McCuff

    “Oh Tina”, it’s good to be you right now. I’m so happy for Tina Knowles, and I wish her the best with the rest of her blessed life.

  • Cleveland Cutie

    So am I reading correctly that her marriage to Matthew Knowles has been tumultuous for 20+ years?? But nevertheless, good for her for bouncing back!

    • Rockchick

      Yep,more like 30+ years; she stuck it out with that man and he continued to dish her dirt apparently from day 1.

  • WakeUp***FLAWLESS

    So happy for miss tina but im more intrigued with her bae,i did not know he was the father of the never aging Bianca Lawson,i remember him as Victor from Sister,Sister though,handsome too!

  • Trini_Angel

    Its never too late to love again. Spend time with urself, join a gym, regain ur confidence and independence and ur happiness will shine through and attract the right person. Most importantly don’t be afraid to be alone after a break-up. That alone time does wonders, u cry, u laugh, u let go and let GOD!! I’m happy she’s found love again!!

  • Charlotte Coachman

    Are there any real journalist anymore?……reading this was so difficult……

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  • She seems like SUCH a great woman!! I wish her all the happiness and joy she can handle!! Go Ms. Tina!!

  • Iam RAntonia

    Sounds very sincere and human.

  • wazzy524

    wonder what her and her daughters loo like without the weaves, and make-up they trying to think they mixed with something– ghetto ness is the name…………………

  • alani

    I like that she keeps a low profile and is not talking against her ex, but about herself. So proud of her, like Tina Turner, she is asking. “Whats Love Got To Do With It?

  • Aaliyah Noelle

    lmao at her saying “hell no!” lololol
    that’s an accomplishment ! “hey I got rejected by beyonce’s mama!”
    thank you Tina for blessing this undeserving Earth with Beyoncé.

  • Anesha Johnson

    Even though I’m not a Beyonce fan, I always admired Tina Knowles. I love her story, very uplifting, inspiring woman she is, and most beautiful.

  • honeybee808

    that was amazing. i appreciate her for being so candid. i wish her continued love, success and happiness!

  • Genia W-m

    What a great read! She sent a valuable message to a lot of women for sure!! Her marriage was difficult for several years. Sound like from the beginning. I remember the original DC ladies in court and the things that came out about Matthew were horrendous!!! He had a lot of women & drugs even then! Tina needs a man who will appreciate her. How can Matthew be remarried and it seems like a woman every few months is popping up with a new baby of his?

    • Rockchick

      Can u imagine when the second baby mama popped out of the woodwork? She must have lifted her hands to the heavens and said “thank you Jesus, I no longer have that to deal with” LOL!!!

  • Chanda


  • cw

    I swear I love this woman. Tina is too motivating

  • Ebonee2

    Im confused. Was her marriage to Matthew in trouble for years prior to this?? Sounds like thats what she said….Sounds like it got worse when she had Solange??

    • Chanda

      Yes, it was troubled looong before Mathew started having those other babies. He cheated but the marriage was dead by then.

    • deschl

      the way she told the story I thought it was a first husband and child, cause 33 years is a long time to have a broken marriage

  • Taneesha Culture Clash Thomas

    Go head Ms. Tina ur testimony is so uplifting

  • Ms.Kim

    Gone Ms. Tina! Kudos to ya honey!

  • TrillProphecies93

    I love Miss Tina! Such a beautiful, talented, and smart woman! I have no idea why on this planet would Matthew want to leave his beautiful and hard working wife for ratchet money hungry side pieces. I’m glad she found someone to make her happy and lift her up! God bless them both! Miss Tina, I wish you all the happiness in the world, have fun with your children and grandchildren. Let your ex continue to dig a bigger hole for himself. You’re now free of that dead weight.

  • Good for her…I’m glad she spoke up, I think a lot of women of her generation and mine can relate. I know I’ll never lose myself in my marriage.

  • You better werk Ms. Tina! Such an inspiring and uplifting read. 🙂 So happy to hear she’s doing well, and living life on her terms. So glad she was willing to share this.

  • hanalei

    Just when we think it can get any worse it does…but ….you get through it. God gives us the strength and we can overcome anything. It also makes us stronger and we get a huge bundle of self esteem knowing the challenge has been met and overcome.

  • frances

    I’m tremendously happy for her after the humiliation her ex-husband subjected to with his womanizing shenanigans. I wish her and her new love the very best. She is a beautiful woman who is with someone who deserves her because he makes her happy.

  • Some men are just pigs. We didin’t ASK to be here…you called for us. God gifted us to you and this is how you treat a gift. Thanks!
    Now…enjoy yourself!

  • 1Val

    A woman’s happiness, success and worth should never be attached to her ability to get or keep a man.

    • Ajavee

      Val I have to re-type.

      A woman’s happiness, success and worth should never be attached to her ability to get or keep a man.

      • Ce1999


  • cantcommittoahairstyle

    WOW……..that was a powerful story ( and made me a little misty eye), you never know what a person has gone through. She has definitely gone through a storm and got the sunshine she deserved at the end of the tunnel. Go Miss Tina!!!

  • Lissa329

    Wonderful! I loved reading this! You don’t have to lose yourself because you have gotten a divorce.

    • Arreba Alicia Stafford

      Me too…!

  • Denalerie Duriso Segura

    That’s great motivation for an older (and a 40 something) woman. Thanks Tina for sharing!
    Enjoying life is what it’s about.

  • T. T.

    Go ‘head Ms. Tina! You have to make yourself happy before you can make anyone else happy! So glad she found herself & is doing her. Mama Tina like, “Naw, I can’t babysit Jules & Blue tonight. Me & Richard ’bout to go out”. Do you Mama Tina, do you.! LOL!!!

  • slimpickens2916

    So sorry that this woman had to go through this drama, but I enjoyed hearing her story and to know that she landed on her feet.

  • Jennifer

    You go, Tina! Way to reclaim your life and continue to pursue your dreams and your happiness – best of luck to you!