Did Y’all See? Black Women Criticize Sistas For Wearing Red Lipstick

January 31, 2014  |  

“Did Y’all See?” is a new MadameNoire video series featuring commentary from MN’s editors on the biggest news of the week, including all the drama that goes down on the hottest shows on television. 

In this week’s episode of “Did Y’all See?” MN editors discuss the drama that erupted on Essence.com’s Facebook page this week when they posted photos of three Houston naturalistas. Instead of focusing on the ladies’ hair, some of the readers began to criticize one of the women for wearing red lipstick, remarking that it was ugly and unbecoming because of the size of her lips and the color of her skin. MN’s editors ask why Black women keep doing this to one another while steadily becoming irate over white people who do the same thing.

In this segment we also discuss Jennifer Hudson’s criticism of sex in music today and ask, should she really be opening her mouth at all? Watch and join in.

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  • UdonNo

    a nggga wouldnt stand a chance in that room!

  • UdonNo

    YALL STILL DONT GET IT. THE BEST MAKE-UP IS THE GYM. dudes dont give 2 fx if u wore green lipstick– if your body is tight!

  • The Truth

    Thats cool, I took a backwards B’s man with my red lipstick, LMAO. It was never my attention to BRaaaaagggggg

  • dreeee


  • virgoking53

    I think if we put more focus on the black community and the struggles and how to uplift and overcome we would be more productive and better off as a society. Not frivolous things such as what lip color anyone is wearing, if you like it I love it. Focusing on someone’s lip color is not benefiting me or the struggles of America. Just dumb pointless foolery.

  • BreathofFreshAir

    What the hell is this foolishness? Y’all ever hear white women telling each other that they “can’t” wear a shade of lipstick because of their skin tone? And believe me, they have varying skin tones as well. We as black women need to stop it. Seriously. My taste isn’t everyone else’s taste but we need to stop obsessing with looking “perfect” all the time! Am I as a black woman only supposed to wear the 3 shades of lipstick that fit my skin tone? Hell no! Free your minds, wear black, blue, green, purple or shocking red lipstick if you want! Neo-slavery is an ugly thing.

  • Emcee

    My skin tone is lighter. I keep it safe by always wearing make up so that it looks like I have none on. That’s always the safer route for me. But @ the end of it all, beauty is objectional, so it’s really all about the person and whatever makes them Happy, who are we to judge.
    Oh yeah, ‘ugly’ is such a bad word. It’s not nice to tear down others, no one created themselves, so really you mock the Creator.

    We MUST do better!!

  • Marie Ferguson

    i havent heard or seen blk wm talk bout each other wearing different lipstick. they just want an argument to be started against blk wm.fuck yall

  • Rae

    I’m trying to keep my own look together… Don’t have time to worry about somebody else’s choices…

  • Treacle234

    Everyone can wear red as long as it matches your skintone. That red colour does not look good on the lady in question. When I saw the photo last week, I was like wow!

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  • Me

    This website is anti black women to the max.

  • MiaSara

    Wtf?! She’s a beautiful lady and the color suits her.

    Man, white people screwed us up! It’s sad…

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  • Suburban Princess Dior

    Ignorant it’s about her hair not the lipstick. And it kinds of make me think did they set this Yolo to show how black women are toward each other. And let me see I’m gorgeous in red lipstick

  • Taneesha Culture Clash Thomas

    I really hate when other people try to project their own insecurities & self esteem issues onto other people…every one has different tastes when it comes to makeup…some people like a more subdued look some people want bright & colorful…if what colors someone else uses on their own face bothers u that much…then u need to seek professional help… other than that if u don’t like it then so what it ain’t your face.

  • Ms_Sunshine9898

    Can we just start this month off with a nice Black History article or slide show instead of this foolishness?

  • Sian Rose

    If it’s not on you or yours keep your opinion to yourself. It’s a foolproof method!

  • jmjg

    Now I understand why so many Black blogs are the way they are. Please young women, grow up. Please learn to present yourselves better. Please stop creating problems where there are none.

  • Terese

    I like the video discussion first of all. Some people even here are still commenting on the red lip..which is ok since we are all entitled to an opinion. The point that the ladies were discussing in the video was the point that we as black women especially just tear each other down and now with social media it’s so easy to “hide” behind a computer. I see it all the time especially with watching YT videos and reading the comments made on some videos. Some black women especially still comment on how unattractively dark someone’s skin is and how they don’t need to be wearing this or that…..Umm. Let that person live and do them and you do you, boo. But then some people when talking to a friend sometimes feel uncomfortable to say O girl, you got boogie hanging out of your nose. But will say anything hurtful on social media. SMH. -Terese

  • Snness

    People should be able to wear whatever they like. Whatever skin tone, size of lips, hair colour etc. If you want to wear any colour lipstick, go ahead! Who says it is your right to judge that other person? And why do you have to put that online for the entire world to see? Treat people the way YOU want to be treated! Give compliments once in a while, it doesn’t hurt!

  • shante

    Its a free country, ladies wear what makes YOU feel pretty. What looks good to one may not look good to another. If you spent your life worrying about small stuff like this, whats really important would be over shadowed.

  • wow

    This was a good video, but I often think why does it matter, it’s that person that is wearing whatever. If I see something and think ew i wouldn’t wear that, i dont comment and i keep it moving. This is why there’s a variety of things because we all have our own preferences…again why should it matter to anyone else?

    • Nia

      ITA! I notice that it’s a thing among black women and girls to make negative statements about other black women. Instead commenting on the positive they feel the need to say something negative instead of keeping it to themselves. I don’t share everything I’m thinking because everybody doesn’t want to know. Have some manners, some tact, some couth and stfu. Geez!

      • Yansa M.Toussaint

        I noticed that in my former workplace before I retired in 2011. Everytime a new Black employee started working there the first thing the Black female employees would do would tear hear down from the top of her head to the soles of her feet. I didn’t notice that behavior amongst non-Black females when a new non-Black female started the job. If anything non-Black women would embrace this newcomer and show her the ropes so that she could succeed on the job. Until we as Black people stop this hatred of ‘self and kind’ amongst ourselves we cannot complain when non-Black people express their racism towards all of us or protest when another young Black person is killed at the hands of white racists. Didn’t Oprah just do a segment on ‘colorism’ with Iyanla Vanzant?

  • I_am_a_Gladiator/Scandalista

    Some people just need to find their right share of red. For my skin tone, warm reds look good on me. Reds with orange, brown, and gold tints look great on me where as reds with blue or purple tints look atrocious and make me look old but my mom can rock them. Personally I think all the women looked gorgeous.

  • Ms. Pissed Off

    SOME of you typical black women love to glorify on other black women when they look a certain way, but put down a black chick that looks nice, especially when she’s dark skinned. Wasn’t the lipstick color HER choice and for HER to decide? People do not need to DICTATE who wears what when it’s THEIR choice. What is even more annoying is that instead of commenting on their beautiful natural hairdos, all of a sudden the bright red lipstick on them is the BIG deal. I swear sometimes some of you black woman or other people can be total a55bags and not care about how they feel about you commenting on their hair, clothes, etc.– especially if their look doesn’t fit up to your standards or to society’s stanards. Oh yeah, it’s so much better to make these type of comments BEHIND a computer screen…NOT. You could have made other type of suggestions to help her instead of being critical. Let’s see you try it when you meet them in person. This is why race will NEVER die down. Get a clue.

    • Yvonne Watkins

      “Typical Black women” is a racist statement. There is no “typical” woman of any ethnicity. Please realize that intra racial, gender specific racism (my pet peeve) is still racism.
      Maybe I’m wrong but you seem to view Black women in negative light, more so than any other women. However, every trait, negative or positive, is found in every ethnicity. Some people’s minds have been programed to focus on the negative aspects of Black people and react as if it is/were the norm — but only the norm for Black people.

  • Self-Hating Negro Slayer

    …and this the BS I’m talking about. We want to rip A$ap Rocky for making a statement about Black Women and red lipstick, then we turn around and tear each other down. SMMFH

    • I_am_a_Gladiator/Scandalista

      OK? Pots calling the kettle black

  • Guest

    As a black woman with medium brown skin complexion, I don’t wear red lipstick because I don’t prefer to wear red lipstick, but I do wear dark plum lipstick because it looks s*xy on me and my husband loves it as well. I get compliments from women black and white and I got a couple of criticism from others saying I look gothic or emo and I ignore them, I love my $20 Smashbox dark plum lipstick and I’m gonna wear it whenever I damn well please.

  • Guest

    I don’t care what no one says. I don’t leave my house without my red lipstick. I go from orange red to blue red. And don’t give a rats butt if it compliments my skin or not. My money, my lips, my RED.

    • africangirlwithasharptounge

      I know that’s riiiighhht!!! *snaps*

    • Buenos dias bi tches

      Say that isht!

  • kb

    I don’t think the lipstick shade was the best color for her I’m sorry. I think a deeper red would have complimented better. I don’t see what the big deal is. Everybody and their mom can say Beyonce hair looked jacked on the Grammy’s, so I don’t see the difference here. MN you are all looking for a problem where there is none.

    • Buenos dias bi tches

      The big deal is post your pic, then get back to us. Let us judge if you look beat or beautiful.

      • kb

        I’m sure if I posted certain pics, people would have a lot to say, just like people said they didn’t agree w/Beyonce’s hair choice for the Grammy’s BFD. I really don’t understand, to me people are mad bc it’s darker skin woman and someone had issue w/the color of lipstick she chose. It wasn’t the best color, so what? I’m on the lighter side of brown, and some colors, like creme don’t look good on me. BFD

    • Nia

      The point was that instead of focusing on her beautiful hair, folks chose to focus on her lipstick color. Even if you don’t like it, you don’t have to comment on it.

  • Willam

    Yeah there are lipstick shades that aren’t for everybody, but I really didn’t see nothing wrong with the lipstick on the lady in the bottom right. Black women need to start supporting and uplift one another and stop putting each other down so damn much. I see lots of hot mess make up on people but who am I to criticize them, if they’re happy with it on then let them be happy and keep your opinions to yourself.

  • Laine

    But who decides what suites who? Isn’t that also defined by the skewed standards of society? And what if you think that a certain lipstick color doesn’t suit a certain person? If she thinks it does suit her and she likes it, why would you care and say that you think it doesn’t? At the end of the day, your opinion is just that, an opinion.

    • Krystal

      thank you! i totally agree! people think they’re reading laws when they dog people about their choice of dress, style, make-up, etc. reality is, it really doesn’t matter! it’s about whatever works for an individual, not for everyone else. i’d like to think people don’t get dressed in hopes that someone would worship their choice of dress, makeup, or hair. i’d like to think they do it because, THEY LIKE IT. and all the people that dog, don’t even have their own sense of fashion or personal taste, they look at what everyone else says and everyone else does and judge based on that. get your own vision, own taste, own style, and pay attention to that, because no ones checking for you, so why are you trying to check everybody?!

      • Buenos dias bi tches

        THERE it is! Thank you!

    • Buenos dias bi tches

      Preach! Only LAMES attack others to make themselves feel better.

      • LAME

        Which is what you are doing as you reply to some of the posted opinions on here, learn how to have a discussion that makes sense without being blatantly rude, stop showing that you obviously live for drama.

    • Zia Paul

      I mean, sure, but just because they like it doesn’t mean it suits them. IF they want to continue to wear it, good for them–still doesn’t mean it suits them.

      • Kari

        But really though how is her lipstick choice affecting your day? If it doesn’t suit her that’s her problem….comment on the colour whether you like it or not….but clearly she liked it enough to wear it and that’s for her to decide and enjoy. Also isn’t sad that as a community our biggest issue in reading a piece attempting to encourage our women to rock their natural hair turned into something we used to bring each other down….I’m all for people stating their opinion but if you don’t like the lipstick on her scroll down or don’t look at it…if you like the colour comment on that…but let’s be honest the fact that you don’t like her lipstick how much of an affect in your life does it have that you have to comment on it….

        • Zia Paul

          Here’s my issue: why can’t people have an opinion? Okay, I don’t like it, how is it affecting her life? Not only did I not say anything to or about these women, I wouldn’t say to them anyways. I don’t know them and they aren’t my friends–what they wear is their business, but I can have an opinion on it.

          If they want to comment, well then so be it. Are they right or wrong, depends on the context, but my God, people sure do hate others having opinions.

          See here is the problem: you read criticism of the shade of lipstick being used to bring them down when, perhaps, just perhaps, some people didn’t like it and weren’t trying to bring them down. It doesn’t affect her life, but the shade was so off putting to others that they commented. I doubt that they were looking for an issue, but the lipstick was very noticeable to them and they felt that they had to say something.

          Last thing: this is the internet. This is far from the worst thing to ever happen and when you allow your pictures to be posted online, people need to realize that there are often unintended consequences.

    • real

      WELL SAID! it is disheartening when we hold people to man-made social constructs. who created the rule that dark women should steer clear of certain colors? i say dang if you do and dang if you dont. those sistas could have been “picture perfect” and people would have found something to be critical about. you cant please everyone so dont try. DO YOU!

  • Janelle Stone

    those blue glasses are fire!

    • vwells1



    well some people don’t need to wear red lipstick and pink, powder pink.. no no no! I do think some people need help in choosing make-up that suits them. maybe they don’t know what they look like etc.

    • africangirlwithasharptounge

      Smh…I think there’s reds and pinks for everyone. People just need to pick the right red or pink for them. For example, Ruby Woo MAC lipstick is a red that looks good on all skin tones.


        you right, people just need to pick the reds or pinks that suit their skin tone

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      • Nia

        It looks like she has on Ruby Woo. It doesn’t look good on me either. I have to use Currant or Nightmoth to hook it up. Regardless, as black women, we don’t need to give our opinion on the next woman’s lipstick choice.

        • xxdiscoxxheaven

          Dare you is nice too! By Mac!
          Also there is a nice dark red by revlon lip butter that my mom uses. I cant remember the name.

      • I dont think so

        I am high yellow, and Ruby woo looks crazy on me. No everyone cannot wear ruby woo, that’s wayyy too bright.warmer reds compliment medium to darker tones.

        • Yvonne Watkins

          “High Yellow”. Really? Bet you don’t even realize that is probably the reason for the down votes. So colonized. Sad.

    • Nia

      The point of the story is that instead of focusing on their beautiful hair, black woman felt the need to say negative and harsh things when it was uncalled for.


        I understand that. they where very mean indeed.

    • Buenos dias bi tches

      well, some people need to 5TFU because no one asked your opinion.


        hmm? wth you talking about? its too early..smh you late! it is nothing to fuss about and that’s exactly what it was my opinion.. move on with your life and I didn’t ask you for yours either!

        • Buenos dias bi tches

          tsk. tsk. tsk. Can dish it, but can’t take it, eh? Hmph. Typical female.

          Now, you move on with THAT.

          • MRSMATRIMONY

            what!? shut up! lol