Do We Ignore Mommy Issues?

January 10th, 2012 - By Brande Victorian

On last week’s episode of “Love and Hip Hop” Kimbella hinted that she had mommy issues that accounted for a lot of the choices she made when it came to men; and on last night’s show, she confronted her mother about the example she set for her growing up and the effect that has on her as a mother now.

I can’t lie, it was difficult to feel bad for Kimbella, mostly because she’s such an unsympathetic character. I really wasn’t trying to hear how Kimbella’s mother sticking it out with her cheating father led to her posing nearly naked in black men’s magazines, but after a while I thought, if we can blame daddy issues for the reason strippers are on the pole, why can’t Kimbella’s mommy issues account for at least some of the dysfunction in her life?

In my own personal experience, I’ve always said the presence of my mother had a much greater effect on me than the absence of my father. It’s just sheer math. I was around my mother much more and that was my primary example—luckily, for me, it was a positive one. When I wrote about Kelly Rowland wanting to reconnect with her father, a few commenters brought up the idea that society is much harder on deadbeat mothers than they are absentee fathers, but I don’t think that’s always the case. Sure, the women in headline-grabbing stories who abuse their children in some way or even take their child’s life are crucified by the media and the public, but what about the everyday mother who just isn’t setting the best example? There’s a lot of sympathy for her. Her inability to be “the perfect mother” is usually excused by the fact that she had to work so much to provide for her family, or she was walked out on, or she never got over a bad relationship.

That dynamic was evident with Kimbella and her mother. Her mom said her husband liked to gamble so she had to make a living but Kimbella still blamed her mother for investing more time in her father than in helping her develop as a young woman, particularly when it came to relationships. My inclination was to roll my eyes, but again, if an absent father can explain why women get in bad relationships, why can’t the bad example set by a mother?

Reactions on Twitter showed a lot other people weren’t buying Kimbella’s terrible mother excuse for her bad choices either. And while I’m also skeptical of people who reduce all of their poor decisions in life to the lack of a male role model, I think society is much less inclined to believe that a poor female role model could have just as much of an effect.

There’s also more of a sense of guilt attached to admitting your mother may not have done everything right. There’s nothing novel about not having a father. You’re more likely to get a surprised reaction if you say you grew up in a two-parent household than if you were to say “I hate my father,” or “my dad wasn’t ish,” but mamas? People don’t like to talk about their mothers, especially if they did try their hardest under harsh circumstances and you still feel they failed you in some way. It’s not easy to admit the anger you hold inside about some of your mother’s poor choices and it definitely isn’t easy to talk to your mother about where she may have gone wrong despite having the best intentions.

Granted, there is seemingly a large difference between trying your best and failing and not trying at all—which is what seems to be the case with a lot of fathers. But I think the very shortcomings that plague mothers are the same ones that affect fathers—the parents just react differently. For men, it’s easier to run and escape the situation while women are typically more adept at figuring out some sort of way to make it work as best they can. This doesn’t excuse the male behavior but I think it explains it in some ways. Even as I watched the show with my own mother last night, she said Kimbella couldn’t keep holding on to all that anger about her mother and she needed to let it go, but I wondered if my mom would feel the same way if Kimbella was talking about her father.

Do you think people have more sympathy for less-than-ideal mothers than they do fathers? Do you think it’s harder for people to admit they wish they had a better mother than a better father?

Brande Victorian is a blogger and culture writer in New York City. Follower her on Twitter at @be_vic.

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  • MaverickLaw

    KUDOS!!! Mommy issues are REAL!

  • DeepThinker

    I am so glad
    that this topic is being addressed!  I
    share some of the same mommy issues that Kimbella and other women in this post
    have expressed and the issues have affected me tremendously in my adult life.  My mother and grandmother were very angry and
    bitter over their failed marriages, played the victim and at times took some of
    their frustration out on me.  Growing up
    and even as an adult I never felt like my feelings, thoughts mattered and, I
    still struggle with self-worthiness. Unfortunately, I see this pattern of
    cruel-kindness occurring with other black girls and their mothers. No wonder so
    many of us are angry (self-included).

    Whenever I
    tried to vent to others about my treatment, I too was told that I was being a
    silly, unappreciative brat. I sought counseling to confirm that I wasn’t crazy,
    and I have addressed my feelings about some of the things that happened. My
    grandmother does not acknowledge a thing she did and not even my father’s
    abandonment (which even Stevie wonder could see). What my mother does
    acknowledge she tries to flip back on me.  

    Through
    trial and error I know to accept full responsibility for my life and no longer
    fault others every time I make a mistake, because when you know better you do
    better, but I find myself having a hard time not harboring resentment towards
    my grandmother and mother. This is really hard because I feel like I am stuck
    being responsible for the well-being of two aging bicshes I cannot stand. I am
    pretending to have a relationship with them, but it is just a matter of faking
    the funk so that I don’t feel guilty or jailed for elderly neglect or
    something.  My selfish siblings have fled
    the scene, never helping out and act like I have no reason to feel the way I do.  I frequently must endure the torture of flip
    comments and some lonely cunnt ranting about their version of what happened in
    1980. Please pray for me, my therapist can only take so much! 

  • MatureVegasWoman

    While I’m
    not much for watching TV and haven’t seen the show under discussion, I’d like
    to comment on the issues raised in the article. As Guest and Bjhajwhefwbdfjsdk pointed out, many of us refrain from critiquing our
    mothers because people act like you are some kind of ingrate if you do.
    Presumably we are supposed to be grateful to her for having given birth to us,
    even though none of us asked to be born. Consequently, we keep our disapproval
    to ourselves.

    My own mother was an angry, bad-tempered woman who had
    too many children too young. While she “did the best she could,” she
    never accepted responsibility for her own poor decision-making, instead taking
    it out on her family. Every one of us left home as soon as we reached the age
    of majority and went out to make our own lives. Amazingly, we all managed to
    succeed in spite of our upbringing; I believe it was in large measure because
    she served not as a good example but more as a horrible warning.

    As time has gone by, and having been a parent myself, I
    came to understand her shortcomings better. She was a product of her time and
    she definitely lacked coping skills. The lack of bonding, though, remains. Now,
    I feel more sorry for her than angry.

  • Guest77

    I personally am dealing with mother issues.  There may be truth to what Kimbella was saying and feeling.  She may not have disclosed everything in that conversation, due to the fact that cameras were present.  Just because someone has a child does not mean  they are a parent.

  • Bjhajwhefwbdfjsdk

    This was an article that made people think, though GUEST said it best when she explained the stigma against women who have mommy issues. I have been stigmatized like this myself, which is why I don’t talk about it in real life.

    I think that the mothers who choose to stick around when the father does not or is doing some bad ish are automatically considered “strong women”. Just because you pay the bills and put food on the table does not make you a good mother, father, role model, whatever. It makes you the person who pays the bills and puts food on the table, one half of a set of people that 99% of the time had no business having kids in the first place. Being a parent, especially a single one, takes a lot more than that.

    And I have zero sympathy for anyone who tries to use single motherhood as the fallback for every mistake they made or are still making. You cannot tell me that you knew 2+2=4, but since you were a single mother you kept writing 2+2=7, knowing it was wrong.

    • Heffernin

      As a teacher, I cant stand to hear single mothers make excuses especially at the expense of their children.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bernadtee-Hill/100000827011926 Bernadtee Hill

    The truth of the matter is mothers are the most powerful tool in our life they are the ones who we have first contact with from the womb. Our mothers are the ones that set the framework for who we are and what we will be in life. Try reading African American Single Mothers: Understanding Their Lives and Families by Bette J. Dickerson.
    As for Kimbella we have formed opinions of her based upon 5 or 10 mins of edited footage if someone taped us for 10 or so minutes would that give an accurate picture of who you are.
     Watching this show as a psych major I can say all these women have mommy issues from Chrissy begging a man who clearly doesn’t want to marry her, Olivia’s mommy issues affecting her ability to cope in the world, and poor Emily who is suffering from text book mental abuse and calls it love. All I have seen them do is seek advice from each other (the blind leading the blind). I have not once seen any of these women seek professional counseling or clergy to learn how to properly cope with their issues.

  • WifemommyChristian

    mommy issues are real
    I am in my mid 30s and in my case, I considered my mother to be a great provider – we lived in suburbs, 4 bdrm house, bills paid, vacations, etc.  She was on top of our school work, our chores, our extracurricular activities (incl frequent library visits, museum outings, learning activities).  She was also very affectionate, kept a clean house…I can go on and on.  But recently I confronted her about an issue that plaqued me for years – she had many boyfriends, many who lived with us.  She never allowed us to get to know these men before they INVADED our home.  Meaning, we met them when they moved in.  Also, it was difficult to see mom give her all (basically, she took care of these men) and they did not give her anything in return.  She was always stressed financially because she provided for our and their financial needs.  Also, it was difficult never feeling comfortable in my own home.  I couldnt go to my mother’s room on Saturday morning and chill in her bed.  I always had to make sure I was properly dressed and kept my door closed.  Instead of a home, it felt more like living in a unfamiliar roommate situation.  And of course, there was an incident of one boyfriend touching me inappropriately.  Finally, it was very confusing because we were taught Christian values, but this was clear fornication.  Point is, my mother was great in many ways, but this has always bothered me and when I confronted her about it, her response was, “I did the best I could.” I believe that is why I ensured my children had a hard working, value-filled father in the home to protect and guide them.  I also didnt want to deal with the stress that my mother encountered as a single mother (financial, emotional, etc.)  SHE WAS ALWAYS STRESSED AND I HATED THAT.  And this is the kicker, when growing up she constanly told us to marry first then have children.  She never wanted us to be a single mother like her.  I see my mother as a woman with low self esteem.  I love her, but clearly I have different values and intend on being a completely different mother.

  • Guest

    People who have mommy issues don’t talk about it because they are judges harshly by others. Most people have a positive experience with their mothers so they cannot understand it and believe the daughter is wrong and ungrateful. The daughter who has to deal with a difficult mother feels guilt and shame when she discusses it with others and so pretends that everything is normal. I am the product of such an experience and I firmly believe if you mother is not an example to you, then unless you have an aunt or another mother figure to look up to you will be lost as a female. When you are lost that is when you can get yourself into lots of trouble. 

    My mother and father are still married but for more than 30 years she has resented him because of incidents that happened early in their marriage. These incidents weren’t due to abuse or infidelity but things she cannot forgive and move past and because of that we have had to grow up with and deal with a very angry woman. 

    Her mother taught her never to trust men and was also extremely submissive to her husband. My mother having the experience accepted that all men are not good and vowed that she would not be the submissive wife. The problem is what that upbringing she never showed my sister and I how to be in a healthy relationship. She has also not implanted good ideas about men in our heads. Both my sister and I have made terrible choices when it has come to relationships. I firmly believe that your environment affects you and your mother being the person you spend most of your time with in your formative years can affect the way you turn out. 
     

    • Misslady80013

      I agree you are a product of your environment but that excuse works with me for only so long. My mother told me with her own lips she mistreated and beat me because I look so much like my father. I am 24 years old, expecting my first child, a son I have been praying for. I am the oldest of my mother’s five kids. Both my younger sisters dropped out of school, no GED or job and had kids before 18. I graduated high school and am not ashamed to say I have been seeing a therapist since I was 18. I don’t go because I think I am crazy but because I am a woman who didn’t have the best example growing up and needs help to deal with these issues. You are your own person and can’t blame all your problems and choices on someone else. Be a woman, admit you need help and seek it.

  • http://twitter.com/ConceitdBastrds Day Acoli

    i’m working on a piece right now about mommy issues.  i think there is definitely validity to examining the issues within the examples our mothers set for us.  even in the episode last night, her mother made a statement about how she was sorry kimbella had the experience she did, but she was trying to keep her marriage in tact. these messages no matter how subliminal communicate to a child they have a lesser place than they should and impacts their self value system. now i’m not at all saying don’t work on your relationship or it shouldn’t be priority, but when it effects the mental health and development of the kids, you gotta be a woman and put yourself in a position to minimize the damage. prime example, Emily on the same show.  Her daughter saw her simp out for a dude, then make a better decision and get on her own feet. her daughter is seeing her still attempt to work out her relationship but i think as women, showing our daughters that we value our mental health and demand to be treated a certain way despite our emotions towards a person or a situation is one of the most important modeled lessons.  mommy has to be better so daughters can be better.

    • WifemommyChristian

      Absolutely agree. Our kids are watching. I think many women are quick to speak about how they make sacrifices for their children, but they forget that these sacrifices include relationships, as well.

  • Malika

    As the saying goes “Momma’s baby daddy’s maybe”. Unfortuantely momma’s seem to get blamed for everything. If daddy’s not there she did something to make him leave. If he stays she should have left. Kimbella story is know different from the millions of other stories of mother daughter conflicts. I think her mother just followed learned behavior. As she said she really loved that man. Since Kimbella recognizes the behavior it’s up to her to change it.  

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