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Anytime someone has to fire a relative, it’s probably safe to assume that there’s some bad blood there. However, when the firing is paired with allegations of stealing, you can bet your last that the relationship is pretty badly damaged, sometimes even beyond repair.

While we haven’t seen Beyoncé and her father, Mathew Knowles, together much since he was let go as her manager in 2011, the music industry executive maintains that things are okay between him and the R&B superstar. But his behavior in this uncomfortable interview with “Insider” leads us to believe otherwise.

On Jay Z:

I think he’s a great guy. He’s an exceptional businessman. He’s an artist and he loves my daughter. If she’s happy, I’m overwhelmed happy.

On the current status of his relationship with Beyoncé:

I’m not talking about my personal business.

On how often he sees Beyoncé:

Enough.

On if he saw Beyoncé on her 34th birthday:

Maybe.

On rumors that he has been cut off by his daughters:

That’s not true. That’s not true at all.

On being released as Bey’s manager:

I’ll only say that it was time for me to be a dad and not a manager.

On granddaughter Blue Ivy:

She’s like incredible. She’s the smartest 3-year-old that I know. But I would say that. Proud grandfather.

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