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Many women choose to keep their ex-husband’s last name after divorce for so many reasons. Some keep it for the sake of their children, some say it’s part of their personal brand, and others say they “earned it.” Whatever the reason, the choice always seems to draw speculation of ill intent, but that makes these women no nevermind. Here are 15 celebs who’ve kept it movin’ with the last name in tow.
Porsha Stewart has decided to keep Kordell Stewart’s last name despite their pending divorce. With all that he put her through you would think she would want no ties to a man who kept her under lock and key. Porsha explained on the Wendy Williams Show why she chose to keep Stewart as her last name: “I’m going to keep Stewart. It’s not his name, it’s my name,” said Porsha. “I was Porsha Williams and I was at one point in my life before I got married. Marriage has taught me so much. I’m a whole ‘nother woman now. So, I’m going to own that last name. It belongs to me.”
One of the first questions many of my friends and family had for me once I got married was if I was going to keep my maiden name or take on my husband’s last name. I hadn’t really given it much thought until it came time to apply for and sign my marriage license. At the time, I had to make a decision, so I decided to hyphenate. However, I have yet to officially change my name anywhere other than my marriage license. To be honest, it probably won’t be high on my priority list until my child is born when I’ll probably want my name to be more in alignment with our family. All of this, along with things I’ve seen or read lately has me jumping the gun a bit and thinking about something else in terms of a union of two people: in the event of a divorce, should a woman keep her married last name?
But for some reason, changing last names and identities is something a lot of women look forward to once they get married. Since I married a little later in life, I was able to concentrate on my career; therefore, I’m known professionally by my maiden name. But if you’re like Tina Turner, some women have established themselves professionally through their husband’s last name, so it’s no wonder they’d want to keep it. Take, for example, Porsha Stewart of The Real Housewives of Atlanta. When Wendy Williams asked her if she’d be keeping her husband’s last name after the divorce, she proclaimed that she “earned” that name and would definitely be keeping it. While I understand that she “sort of” became famous under the last name Stewart, I also don’t understand why a woman would want to hold on to the name of a man who, in her own words, mistreated and humiliated her. Like I said, unless I’m Tina Turner, I can’t see myself holding on to a name that I associate with pain or abuse.
Most women who hold on to their married last names after divorce don’t see anything wrong with keeping her ex’s last name – even if they divorced under contentious circumstances. My own mother, who has been divorced for the better part of almost 30 years, still goes by the last name Dean. At first she said it was because she wanted to share the same last name as her daughters. Understandable. But my mother also finds it very difficult to be in the same room as my father, so it seems strange to me that she’d want to keep his name. She also said she likes his last name better than her maiden name, she said it just “flowed” better. Okay…to each her own.
Call me crazy, but after having been Brooke Dean for 40 years, I don’t see it being that difficult to go back to if, heaven forbid, my husband and I divorced. Maybe once my son is born, I’ll see things differently, and it may also depend on how long I’ve been married. If you’ve been married for 10 or more years, I can see how his last name is tied to your identity. But if my husband disrespected me, abused me or humiliated me, I know I would hate being associated with him in any way. I even know some women who have held on to their ex-husband’s last name even after they remarried someone else. I find that to be absurd. If you’re newly divorced or now married to someone else, I would assume that you are starting over with a new identity and therefore should have a new name. Again, maybe if children are involved, that complicates things, but my child would just have to understand that I’m not divorcing him, just his father.
Now, none of this is to say that I plan on getting a divorce. Quite the opposite. But I’m sure for those who have gone through a divorce, deciding whether or not to hold on to an ex’s last name is a tough decision. Maybe that’s why I opted to hyphenate, so that I can have a little bit of me left along with embracing him. But it’s the woman’s choice and if she keeps it, that’s her right…yes?
What do you think? Is there some sort of etiquette to consider when deciding on keeping your ex-husband’s last name?
Recently, I have been seriously thinking about marriage. No, I’m not talking about a wishful trip down the aisle, but the actual idea of marriage.
Since the days of my adolescence, particularly the young adult years, I’ve always wondered if the idea of marriage is even for me. Years ago, during one of our impromptu sister circles in college, I told some of my dorm mates that I have no intentions of getting married. I didn’t know how serious I was about this at the time, but I also knew that as my dorm mates would continuously gush over the whens and wheres of their future husbands and weddings, engagement rings and dresses, I would be thinking about other things–like traveling. Or becoming notable in some way: maybe through writing; perhaps through business. It wasn’t that I didn’t like men (because that’s where minds tend to go whenever a woman doesn’t say something pro-relationship). Some, who knew me back then, might say that I liked men a little too much – and hard – at times. But in the greater scheme of how I envisioned my life, I saw myself as more like a Oprah Winfrey and not a June Cleaver. And quite frankly, I wasn’t quite sure if that was something that most men could get down with – at least the ones I knew.
Although I am now well into my 30s, and no closer to world media domination, the men I know haven’t changed much over the years. And as such, I still carry the same reservations about marriage. Stories like this, or this, or even this one, do not help to assure me that I won’t find myself in a situation where I feel like my spirit would be contained or compromised in some way. I also find myself feeling like I would be in a situation where my partner, unable to contain me, would feel resentment over my unchained spirit and decide to become controlling. Or abusive? Or a tomcat? It does happen – at least based on the many stories I’ve heard from friends and strangers alike, as well as my own personal experiences.
“But that’s your problem. You are looking at submission the wrong way,” a male “friend” once told me. According to him, I was too opinionated and stubborn in my thoughts. I didn’t know how to let go of the reins of control so that a man could do what a man is supposed to do: take control and lead. “Submitting yourself to a man – the right man – allows you to free yourself of the burden of having to be strong all the time. You know, so that you can be happy.”
Except I never saw my independence as a burden. Nor do I believe that squelching my opinions and curtailing my thoughts would make me happier. That sort of behavior never once worked to my favor in my past. In fact, letting other people’s opinions and desires supersede my own wishes and thinking landed me in some peculiar places I hadn’t intended to be in. No. Life, being the best teacher of all, told me that it is best to speak up. And if it doesn’t feel right, don’t force it because odds are that it ain’t right.
On the other hand, having a life partnership with a guy would be nice. So maybe my male “friend” has a point? Maybe I am missing out on lots of undiscovered happiness all because I won’t submit and let go. And maybe all the uncomfortable pain I felt during those times of submitting my spirit needed to happen, like some sort of laborious test or birthing pains, which I need to go through to get to the real happiness…? And then my spirit animal appears through the white noise of Access Hollywood, by way of the New York Post, to vicariously tell my male friend to shut the hell up:
“Oprah Winfrey has revealed why she will never, ever marry her longtime partner Stedman — despite Tina Turner demanding she walk down the aisle. Oprah and Tina have been friends for years, with Oprah attending the singer’s wedding back in July. But the talk show queen says she has come to the conclusion that such a union is just not for her. When asked if she would leave earth as a “never-married” woman, Oprah made her feelings very clear. “Yes,” she told Access Hollywood. “Yeah, I think that’s my final answer.”
As to why she doesn’t see herself walking down the aisle, Oprah explains that she couldn’t be a wife because the term holds obligations she doesn’t feel capable of handling:
“I think it’s acceptable as a relationship, but if I had the title ‘wife,’ I think there would be other expectations for what a wife is and what a wife does. First of all, you’ve got to come home sometimes.”
Some many insist that folks like Winfrey and I are too selfish for marriage. Maybe they might contend that we are too insecure or paranoid to take the plunge. And then there is the good argument to be made that perhaps I, in particular, have just gotten spoiled and used to the quiet and breadth of my own space that there is just no room for anyone else. All I know is that I value my freedom and my spirit fights too damn hard against any sort of containment for me to ignore it. So, until I meet a guy who is less interested in dominating me and more interested in loving me as I am, I guess like Winfrey, I will be never married. I guess it’s true that some women just really aren’t wifey material. And quite frankly, with how limited in scope some folks wish to define the roles of a wife, I’m okay with that.
Oprah is not playing these marriage pressure games. The media mogul recently sat down with Access Hollywood’s Shaun Robinson and she proved she hasn’t budged on her unmarried woman status. In fact, Oprah said even when her good friend Tina Turner tried to convince her to walk down the aisle with her man of 27 years, Stedman, Oprah politely let her know, no thank you.
Here’s what she told Shaun Robinson when she asked whether she will leave this earth as a never-married woman:
“Yes…That’s my final answer. I think it’s really interesting that you would ask it because I thought about it again at Tina Turner’s wedding because Tina [said], ‘Oprah, you need to do this.’ Well it took [her] until 75 to do it. Now you’re telling me I need to do it. I was just thinking, would things really be different? I don’t think so. I think my final answer is I’m gonna leave this earth as a never married woman, and that’s really okay with me. Stedman would tell you Shaun, if you ever interviewed him, he would tell you [that] had we married, we would not be together.”
When Shaun asked why that is, Oprah replied:
“Because he’s a traditional man and this is a very untraditional relationship. I think it’s acceptable as a relationship, but if I had the title ‘wife,’ hmmmm. I think there would be some other expectations of what a wife is and what a wife does. First of all you gotta come home sometimes.*laughs hysterically* I think it’s time for this interview to end.”
Let me find out Oprah is out in these streets! Lol But seriously, this isn’t the first time Oprah has stated that if she and Stedman were married they wouldn’t last, and after nearly three decades together, they must be doing something right. I wonder if she’ll ever get to the Tina Turner point, though, and decide to make it official. What do you think?
Domestic violence is no laughing matter.
According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, one in every four women will be a victim of domestic violence in her lifetime. An estimated 1.3 million women find themselves assaulted by their partners each year. Moreover, almost one-third of female homicide victims reported in police records are killed by an intimate partner. And in 70 to 80 percent of the homicides involving intimate partners, no matter which partner was killed, the man physically abused the woman before the murder.
So now that this is established, why do folks laugh at the Ike Turner domestic violence memes?
You might have seen them on Instagram, or on someone’s Fscebook page. It’s the black and white picture of a young Ike Turner, rocking a Sonny Bono bowl cut, with various captions that basically make a joke out of the late musician’s abusive past. For example:
My girl ain’t allowed to read horoscopes. I’m her Past, Present & Future
My girl ain’t allowed to Turn Up, unless she wants to Turn up missing
My b***h ain’t allowed to drink milk. The only strong bones she needs is mines
I trip my b***h everyday because I am the only ni**a she is allowed to fall for
I pushed my girl off the bed while she was sleep – To remind her that the man of her dreams can’t save her.
I would be lying if I said that a few of these memes never tickled my funny bone. The haircut, the vicious side-eye, and the ironic play on words all just works so perfectly–as a joke. And as much as I understand that there is nothing funny about domestic violence, I also know that it is damn near impossible to tell a nice joke these days.
I’ve been reading a science fiction book called Stranger in a Strange Land. In it, the main character, who is a martian from Mars, is trying to “grok,” or understand, humor. It is during a trip to the local zoo where he witnesses monkeys fighting each other in a cage that he first begins to understand what is at the core of why we laugh:
“I’ve found out why people laugh. They laugh because it hurts-because it’s the only thing that’ll make it stop hurting-of course it wasn’t funny; it was tragic. That’s why I had to laugh. I looked at a cage full of monkeys and suddenly I saw all the mean and cruel and utterly unexplainable things I’ve seen and heard and read about – and suddenly it hurt so much I found myself laughing.”
To this day I can’t think of a single joke, prank or gag, which doesn’t demean or humiliate its subject, who is usually the punchline, in some way (If you can think of one, please share it in the comment section below because I am stumped). Even the cleanest of comics (i.e., Sinbad and Bill Cosby) are guilty of light mocking of their families and self-deprecation. Therefore, in comedy, it is hard to draw limitations on what should or should not be funny. With that said though, I don’t think there are enough people, in general, who have a clear understanding of the severity of domestic violence and its impact on our culture to dismiss these memes as just jokes. Not when we still have folks championing the idea that “Rihanna had it coming,” or when we have women tweeting about how Chris Brown could certainly “beat me.”
Not to mention that the only time most folks speak in reference to the domestic violence situation involving Ike and Tina Turner is when we are mocking or making light of a particular scene in What’s Love Got to Do With It? In that film, Lawrence Fishburne’s performance of Ike Turner was so over the top that it verges on parody. So at times, its hard to know if we are laughing and mocking the insecurities of Ike Turner (and other abusers like him), or if we just have issues empathizing with the pain of others. I mean, watching monkeys in a cage fight is one thing, because after all, they are monkeys. But we are human beings, and as written, more evolved than that. Right?
Two words come to mind when we think of Tina Turner: fierce and fabulous! So who better to take on the larger than life essence of Ms. Turner than the equally awe-inspiring Joan Smalls, the number one supermodel in the world?
We can’t think of anyone better! The spread, shot by Tom Munro and styled by Carlyne Cerf de Dudzeele, shows Joan donning a blonde cropped wig similar to Turner’s rock star cropped cut and an abundance of gold jewelry that would make Trinidad James jealous.
We’re loving the energy that is radiating through the spread and it looks like Joan was having a blast. Who wouldn’t have fun being able to channel the queen of rock n’ roll? You can catch Joan in the September issue of V Magazine which hits newsstands today!
See the rest of Joan Smals’ editorial spreed at StyleBlazer.com
Oprah Winfrey has been in our lives for decades, but never ceases to amaze in her ability to get even the most guarded Hollywood A-listers to give fans a glimpse behind the glitz and glamour. Though Oprah Winfrey’s transition from talk show host to mogul and television station owner hasn’t been the smoothest, that hasn’t stopped Winfrey from landing some of today’s biggest interviews, mostly recently with actress Lindsay Lohan. So in honor of her tradition of journalistic excellence and her ability to go where were few other hosts have gone before, the are the most interesting Oprah Winfrey interviews from over the years.
From The Grio
Turner made headlines last month when she married her partner of more than 25 years, German music producer Erwin Bach.
The lavish wedding took place at their home in Switzerland, nestled on the banks of Lake Zurich, with more than 120 guests, including Oprah.
During her Next Chapter interview Turner revealed why she decided to finally marry Bach.
“There comes a time in life when you must put things in place,” Turner said. “First I started consolidating, getting rid of property. I got rid of a house in France, a property in America. I made a situation for my sons. Anything that was costly I totally got rid of. Then it occurred to me, if something happened in death for me, Irving would have no say, and I thought it was a bit unfair to live with someone as long as we are, and not to give him any say.”
The “What’s Love Got to Do with It” singer also talked about her wedding day said that she hid in a window to watch her wedding guests as they arrived.
The most shocking revelation during the interview came when Turner talked about her farewell tour that occurred in 2009, and confessed that she was “tired of singing and dancing.”
Read more at TheGrio.com
If you watch “Welcome to Sweetie Pies” on OWN, you know that Sweetie Pies’ owner Miss Robbie and her son Tim cannot get along to save their lives — or should we say to save their business? Almost every episode, Tim gets beside himself and acts like he doesn’t know who’s in charge and that’s when mama Robbie has to put him in his place.
Well, we had a chance to catch up with these two as they were preparing to launch the third season of their hit reality show for the Oprah Winfrey Network and they both explained to us why they bump heads so much. And though Miss Robbie said she would not recommend working with family, she did habe some nice things to say about her son and even said he was the inspiration for her opening her very first restaurant to begin with. She also talked about her old friend, Tina Turner’s, recent wedding and whether she’s still hoping to walk down the aisle one day. Check out our interview with the mother-son duo below.
Are you as addicted to “Welcome to Sweetie Pies” as we are?
From The Grio
Tina Turner has opened up about her marriage — a lavish nuptial celebration that took place earlier this month – to Hello! magazine,
Turner, 73, married German music producer Erwin Bach at their home in Switzerland, which is nestled on the banks of Lake Zurich.
In photos exclusive to Hello!, Turner reveals her unusual green and black wedding gown – plus her equally quirky dress instructions for female wedding guests, which included media mogul Oprah Winfrey.
Turner first spotted the frock at a Giorgio Armani fashion show in Beijing. “I thought, ‘I gotta have that, even if I never wear it,’” Turner told Hello! “Then I thought, ‘I know, that will be my wedding dress!’”
The bodice of the cap-sleeved gown is embellished with Swarovski crystals. Turner wore sheer leggings with the piece, which features a trendy high-low hemline with volumes of black tulle cascading over green draping. The shorter portion of the hem at the front of her gown displayed Turner’s world-famous legs.
Read and see Tina’s wedding dress at TheGrio.com