All Articles Tagged "domestic violence"
More than a year after their violent Valentine’s Day incident made headlines, Ray and Janay Rice are speaking out about the night that changed their lives forever. In an interview with New York magazine, Janay revealed that Ray’s priorities became a bit distorted and he was all about his NFL career as their relationship progressed.
“Football came before everything and everyone,” Janay recalled.
While she admits that she understood Ray being career focused, it did present a strain in their relationship.
“It was definitely frustrating. It was hard knowing I wasn’t his first priority,” she explained.
According to the 27-year-old, things intensified once she gave birth to their daughter, Rayven, who didn’t sleep much at the time.
“I felt I was doing everything by myself,” Janay said. “After a while, I resented that. I felt like a walking zombie. I told Ray he needed to change more diapers.”
Though she voiced her concerns, Ray only came up with more excuses to stay away from home, including booking charity engagements on his only day off.
“I get home, I’m spent,” he recalled. “There’s no time to talk. ‘I got practice the next day.’ ”
Ray went on to say that things worsened and communication came to a halt.
“It got to the point where if she had an issue, I would basically just go silent,” he said. “There wasn’t a lot of yelling, screaming, nothing. I would just wake up, go to practice. Then game day gets here. I’d rush for three touchdowns. The family’s over at the house. She’s still got that problem she’s thinking about. And I think, I scored three touchdowns today. Everything’s all right.”
“That’s not what a man does,” Janay recalled telling him. “I know what a man is supposed to be. I know how a man acts in a relationship. I know what a father is. I experienced it.”
The night of the fight, Janay recalls wanting to spend time with her then fiancé, but instead he chose to partake in a group celebration with his half-brother, his girlfriend and another couple at the Revel Casino.
“It was an annoyance to me,” Janay said. “I was a little perturbed, though I didn’t communicate that to him.”
Instead, she stayed silent for the entire three-hour car ride to Atlantic City, New Jersey. After having a few drinks, the couple began bickering.
“We were drunk and tired,” Janay said.
Eventually, the altercation took a violent turn and Ray knocked Janay unconscious in the hotel elevator.
“Ma, I made a huge mistake,” Ray recalled a text message he sent to his mother. “I’m probably going to go to jail tonight.”
And of course, we know how the rest of the story unfolded. Apparently, the interview is a part of Ray’s attempts to redeem himself and clean up his image in hopes that an NFL team will pick him up for the 2015 season.
You can check out the couple’s full interview here. Thoughts?
It’s one of the worst feelings in the world to find out that someone you admire isn’t really who you thought they were. We’ve all felt that way when our favorite actors, singers and public figures had their bad behavior put on blast after being arrested or exposed by someone from their past. Here are a few uber-popular stars who still remain in the spotlight (and still get a lot of love from fans) despite past violent behavior.
Terrence Howard actually has more in common with his “Empire” character, Lucious Lyon, than you might think. Like Lyon, Howard has an extremely dark past: the actor has been accused of domestic violence at least six times. Some of these counts include the time he allegedly approached his ex-wife with a knife before knocking her down and kicking her. He was also accused of choking and punching another ex-lover in the face.
Ever since singer Michel’le transitioned into the world of reality tv, she’s been very open and candid about her relationships with both Dr. Dre and Suge Knight. And while we might assume, based on his track record, that Suge was the most violent in their relationship, it was actually Dr. Dre who gave her the most trouble. It was quite the shocker. And since the news is so unexpected, it’s the question that consistently comes up during her interviews.
Recently, the R&B Diva sat down with Vlad TV and revealed some more details about the extent of the abuse with Dr. Dre, including the time he shot at her. See what she had to say in these excerpts below and then watch the full video below.
You and Dr. Dre have a child together right?
Yes, he’s 24. Right at the peak of my–I went on the Hammer tour and found out I was 6 weeks pregnant and we had two more months to go. I had to come home and drop that baby and finish out some more shows and then I became a stay-at-home mommy. Which made my career go *makes car screeching noise* I don’t advise it if you want to be in this business. The baby can take a year and a half off. You want to bond with your child.
Her relationship with Dre after the child
It became more strained because he was able to get up and just go where I couldn’t do that anymore. I couldn’t follow him anymore. And I think it became more disrespectful because then, if you’re not there, somebody else will be. I don’t want to say he wasn’t ready to have a baby but he had already just had a baby. When I met him he had two women pregnant… When I met him one was in the belly and then one had just dropped. So there were two babies born within a year or so apart. And we had just started dating…So three already, one had just came out and one was in the belly. That was five. Mine made number six. While I was with him he had two more. I know! I know! I don’t know I just guess I cared for him. I know it doesn’t make sense now.
How bad the abuse get?
I had five black eyes. Oh I was getting dragged on the floor, shot at…
What led to the shooting?
We partied…and I guess I don’t know what I always did. And I always say it couldn’t have just been me. So one night we was arguing, he went and got the gun and I just made it through the bathroom door and he shot at me and missed me by this (holds up measurement fingers) much. He shot at me. And you know what I did? I left the bullet in the hole. It was in the door and then it went through the side of the wall in the bathroom and I left it there for a while, just so he could see it. But he never tried to shoot me anymore. Thank God. But the beatings were…it was a lot.
You know what my grandmother said, eventually: ‘When a man beats you, he doesn’t like you. He has women issues and it starts probably with their mothers.’ And I said ‘You’re probably right.’
Oh! I tried off and on. I would move out. Ok, yes, I would move down the street. Ok maybe I wasn’t trying to get too far away. But because we always got back together. We had been together for almost a decade. We would break up, I’d give him three months to sew his wild oats, thinking ‘Of course we’re going to get back together.’ And that didn’t happen. And I think his last wife, I just couldn’t do it anymore. It’s too much. I’d already waited out the babies, the baby mamas, the hookers, the hoes…I was growing up and I was just going, ‘It’s got to be something better.’
Was it for the money?
And it wasn’t about money because we (her family) were never broke. I never got with Dre for money because he didn’t have a driver’s license, a car or insurance…or a house. We lived with his Auntie, who I ended up calling mommy.
Was he helping financially with his child?
Yes…well, I had to take him to court but…well, that’s an issue right? You should never have to do that. But now they’re great.
If he just would have done the right thing, I wouldn’t have needed to go to court.
Lord. Michel’le has been through it all! You can watch the full interview below.
Chris Brown Talks Awkward Domestic Violence PSA At The Grammys, And Why He’s Ready To Impregnate, But Not Marry Karrueche
Anytime Chris Brown sits down for an interview, you can be sure that he’s going to say something very interesting or very crazy. I’ll let you decide which statements are what after you check out what he had to say on The Breakfast Club today. The singer, there to promote his tour with with Trey Songz and the Fan of a Fan album with Tyga, talked about why he falls out with Karrueche publicly, why he went in on Tamar Braxton and Adrienne Bailon, and people continuously bringing up his past. He definitely had a lot to say. Check it out.
If His Social Media Rants Get Him Into Trouble With The Judge Presiding Over His Probation
I wouldn’t talk about the judge because I’m not off probation all the way. So I would say that I don’t think it would make a difference. I think even if I was at church every day, it would be something to talk about. I think how media has kind of–not to say targeted me because I’m not here to be like “Woe is me,” that’s bullshit. But I feel like the only thing that’s highlighted in my career over the last five years is my negativity. Only thing I can do is put my positive music out and do what I do and be great at that. That’s the only thing that has been successful is the music. People can’t deny an undeniable hit.
The Percentage Of Blame He Would Put On Himself And The Media For His Image
It’s 50/50. I’m not going to sit there and say I’m a saint. But I definitely say that a lot of the choices I made in the past reflect now. So now, I don’t have the benefit of the doubt. “Oh, Chris didn’t do it.” People be like, “No, he did it!” It’s because of my past decisions.
Why Chris & Karrueche Always Fall Out Publicly
A lot of the times, I’m impulsive. I don’t have no filter. Whether it’s a relationship issue, whether it’s her or me, we don’t know how to communicate sometimes, to be able to be like, let’s talk about this before we say some sh*t and then we’re back together next week. Then you give everybody else the option to depict our relationship and set their own basis for how we live our life. It’s better for growth and maturity when you communicate and talk through a relationship and understand each other. I’d rather do that and not make my stuff as public because it’s not anybody’s opinion! And people’s lives is sh*t so they can’t comment on mine anyway.
Agreeing With Kanye Saying That Karrueche Probably Couldn’t Do Better Than Brown, And Bringing Up Rihanna
I feel what he meant by it. I’m not saying that as an arrogant statement…there’s nowhere else to go. Even with ol’ girl. The first one. Who else she gon’ go to? That’s nice, [Leonardo DiCaprio] is a good choice, but who else in this game she gon’ go to? Some corny singing rapper? You know what I’m saying? What she do now, I got respect for her and whatever her choice is, but at the time, not to toot my own horn, but who’s hotter than me?
Where Things Stand With Rihanna Now
We’re cordial. I respect her space. She respects mine. Too much talking leads to “Hey, what you doing? What’s up? What’s up? We gon’ hang out?” It just complicates things.
On People Bringing Up His Abusive Past
It’s not even about, “Oh, he doesn’t show any remorse.” How much remorse am I going to show? It’s been damn near almost 10 years. I just feel like, if you not going to get over it, you’re never going to get over it.
Why He Lashed Out At Tamar And Adrienne Bailon
Mine is a roast. If you want to say something about me, let me just joke. But I don’t say the stuff that’s like, “Okay, yeah, he got her.” I say the stuff that’s going to hurt and feel like someone took a dagger to your veins. I’m getting smart now because I’m realizing that when people are in panic mode and they need to sell something or they need to get ratings, it’s “Let’s poke at Chris Brown because he’ll bite on it. He’ll say something and we’ll get a reaction out of him because guess what? It’s going to bring our ratings through the roof because he’s going to go all the way and then he’s going to look like the bad guy and we’re going to win.” I’m starting to realize it. It’s still fun to me because I like to entertain.
On The Domestic Violence PSA At The Grammys
I left before that came on. I didn’t even know until I looked at my Instagram and Twitter. My thing is, that’s great. If you’re going to focus on that, that’s great. But also talk about Mike Brown. Talk about all these injustices going on as far as politically, and all the things that’s wrong with our country. Don’t use the music to just talk about domestic violence, because ya’ll don’t talk about it on nothin’ else…Then you got other people in the crowd that are artists, I don’t know half these people because I don’t listen to their music, but I saw little tweets like, “Well then you shouldn’t have let Chris Brown come to the awards.” To me, that’s a slap in my face, because that has nothing to do with you. If you are in a totally different lane and you’re doing whatever you’re doing, your opinion shouldn’t be that valid. You should worry about what the hell you’re doing. Old Chris Brown would have come over and smacked you in your mouth, but the new one is like, “Cool, tell me how to get into them pearly gates since you’re perfect. I need to know how to get on that VIP list because I want to get there too.”
If He’s Ready To Settle Down With Karrueche
I’m too young for that. I can deal with babies. That’s different. I don’t follow the certain formula…I’m cool having a baby. The marriage thing? I’m not cool with giving you half of what I earned all my life. Prenups, all that, that’s cool. But in our generation, marriage has been distorted to our generation of people because it hasn’t worked. The older generation, it worked…as our culture, generations from being teenagers to now, it’s all about the turn up. I’m not promoting the turn up, but that’s what our mentality is. So it’s all about what’s hot at the time. Those values aren’t instilled in us right now. We don’t have leaders to instill that. I’m particularly not going to be that leader because I’m going to turn up with you [laughs]. As I progress and find out who I am more, when I’m more in my 30s, then maybe.
What He Thinks Of People Saying He Could Have Been The Next MJ, But Blew It
The funny thing is, I am on that level. I’m not saying I am Beyoncé and Michael Jackson. If you know you’re great, you know you’re great. When people say, “He’s supposed to be that,” it’s because they know I am that.
I can’t look back and say, “I wish I could have done it this way,” because I’ll be mad at my life because I didn’t get it to the fullest potential. All I can do now is say, “You know what, I’m just going to to kill everything I do.”
Toya Wright Talks Separation From Memphitz, K. Michelle’s Accusations And Declining ‘Love And Hip Hop’
Ever since K Michelle made her initial claims that producer Memphitz physically abused her, we wanted to know who this guy was. And it turns out, not only was he still involved in the industry, he was romantically linked–and then married to another recognizable name and face, Toya Wright.
And while both Memphitz, Toya and even some of their friends have always vehemently denied that he abused K. Michelle, the association alone took a great toll on Memphitz’s career and ultimately his marriage to Toya. Essentially, she believes it’s the reason they are separated today. And in a recent interview with Necole Bitchie, she explained what all of this did to Memphis mentally and how it hurt their marriage.
The current status of their relationship:
The current status of me and my husband [is] we are separated at the moment. And, we’re just- everybody has their marital issues. And right now, you know, we’re separated.
I mean, what is going on with my husband, like I said when I spoke on it, is bigger than me. Micky has been going through something for the last few years since the whole lawsuit thing against his ex [K. Michelle] and Viacom and it really took a toll on him and it caused him to be a different person. So I think that, going through all of those things, and having all of that stress and the world looking at you one way as a “woman beater” and person that steals someone’s money. It’s hard for you to get back into your industry when you had a career and not a [just] job and somebody defames your character. I mean, it’s a lot to deal with day to day.
And I watched it. I went through it with him for three years. And I’ve been to counseling with him and all types of things so he can get back strong. It’s a lot for him that’s on him and choosing to live our marriage publicly. Everybody has an opinion and when somebody has the bigger platform to share their story and the other person doesn’t, it kind of gets one sided.
And for him- I always get upset when he reacts out of anger on social media because I know that’s not really him and that it’s coming from a bitter, angry place because the world has turned him into that person, constantly accusing him of doing this and doing that and he’s constantly struggling to get back to what he had.
On fighting for her Marriage
When I met him, he had a career. He was a self made guy with his own. And then to fall back into my shadow and then to be known as a “woman beater” it’s kind of a lot.
I’m just praying for him and praying for our situation. I’m a person that is all about love and our family and I don’t like to give up. Especially being married two times. I don’t even like to go through the whole dating stage and all of that. I love my husband and I’m praying that we can get through this and he can get back right to the person that I met because he’s not the person that I met. This whole situation has changed him into someone else.
Where his resentment toward her came from…
You know he started to blame me, for- you know- he had the opportunity when it first happened to go on the show and um-
Love and Hip Hop. He wanted me to go on the show with him. Well, the producer wanted me on the show but that’s not really my thing and I was like ‘No, we’re newlyweds. And we have kids.’
That show don’t really represent what I represent as a woman. I was like, ‘Na, I don’t want to do that,’ because it’s so much drama. Not that I have anything against it, it’s just not for me.
So, he felt like, it was my fault that he didn’t go on the show and he had the opportunity to defend himself. We took another route and that route caused him to get blackballed in the industry and he kind of blames me for that and I have to deal with that everyday.
At that point, we had just got married. And to go on a show and argue with your ex, even for me to be put in that situation, I just felt like it was too much. I was totally against that and he just felt like, this was the opportunity for him to defend himself and was like, ‘No, I don’t think so. If this is not true, then you should handle it accordingly.
If someone is defaming your character, you gotta sue them or do what you gotta do. Especially after you ask them not to mention your name or likeness and they did it anyway, and it’s like [the show] lead people- even if they didn’t say your name- it lead people to my [husband] and… he started to resent me for that.
At the end of the day, I can’t go against what I believe in. That’s not something I was cool with. I don’t want my husband on a tv show, going back and forth with his ex, [while] we’re trying to move forward. You’re in another relationship, that’s your past.
So, another woman is accusing Columbus Short of abuse.
According to TMZ, Agostina Laneri, who is reportedly pregnant by Short, requested a restraining order against the former “Scandal” actor last week. In Laneri’s filing, she accused Short of being emotionally abusive to her and physically abusive to her child. During one incident, Laneri alleged that he struck her son and then when she confronted him about it, he justified it by saying that “the boy needed to learn.” Bizarrely, she also claims that he threatened to kill fellow actor Jamie Foxx.
“If I choose to kill one of these n****s … I will do that,” Laneri claims Short told her. “I’m that crazy n**** that will be on the news as the n**** that murked [murdered] Jamie Foxx.”
Laneri also says that he told her, “Y’all should be very afraid. Very afraid,” and “Don’t forget who I am. I have a knife.” Of course, this isn’t the first time that Short has been accused of trying to intimidate a lover with a knife. As you may recall, Short’s estranged wife Tanee McCall-Short alleged that the actor pulled out a knife and held it to her throat.
“He placed the knife close to my neck and threatened to kill me and then kill himself,” McCall-Short told police. “He insisted that we play a game he called ‘Truth or Truth’ and told me if I lied to him he was going to stab me in the leg. He started randomly listing names of people we knew and accused me of having an affair.”
Laneri works as a celebrity fitness trainer. It’s currently unclear if she intends to follow through with her pregnancy. Short has been ordered to stay 100 yards away from her and her son.
Follow Jazmine on Twitter @JazmineDenise
50 Cent’s Ex Accuses Him Of Physical Abuse: “Let’s See How These Pics Of You Beating My A– Will Look On Your Record”
50 Cent is facing more domestic violence allegations. This time, the accuser is the rapper’s ex-girlfriend, Holly. The drama unfolded on Instagram, of all places, after Holly shared a screenshot of what she says was a text exchange between herself and 50. In the messages, Holly threatens to go public with photos she says she has of 50 beating her.
“U got way more to lose than me,” she writes. “Let’s see how these pics I got of u beating my a—will look on your record. F-ck u.”
“Don’t do nothing stupid, Holly. Let’s calm down,” 50 allegedly replied.
The images Holly threatened to share have yet to surface; however, she was sure to call out 50 in the caption provided beneath the screenshot, writing:
“Now he wants me to calm down. U are nothin but a manipulating women beater. You’re a f-cking bully. Puts fear in everybody’s heart mistaking it for respect. I treated this man like royalty but all I got in return was ass whippings. Didn’t ask him for shit. He would buy me gifts to only take them back, what a man!!! He wanted me love unconditionally, I’m sorry I will not tolerate a grown ass man putting their hands on me. I was good before you I will good without you @50cent.”
The post was later removed. As you may recall, this isn’t the first time the rapper has been accused of demonstrating violent behavior towards a lover. His oldest son’s mother Shaniqua Thompkins alleged that he beat her in front of her daughter and then cried in her lap “like a baby” afterwards. And of course, he was formally charged over domestic violence allegations made by the mother of his youngest son. Those charges were later dropped.
50 has yet to respond to Holly’s allegations.
Follow Jazmine on Twitter @JazmineDenise
After four years worth of legal battles and a case that brought national attention to Florida’s problematic Stand Your Ground laws, Marissa Alexander was released from jail on Tuesday afternoon.
She’ll be able to serve the rest of her sentence on house arrest.
Those present in the courtroom broke out into applause when Judge James Daniel announced that he was rejecting the prosecutor’s request for an additional two-year jail sentence and was releasing Alexander to house arrest, or community control.
When issuing his ruling he stated that his decision was “not based on any public opinion of any larger issue of public interest or social concern, but on the specific facts of the case.”
You may remember that at one point, Alexander faced up to 60 years behind bars for firing a warning shot near her abusive, estranged husband Rico Gray on August 1, 2010. Though Gray had abused Alexander on several occasions and threatened to kill her on that particular day, she was unable to convince the jury that she feared for her life.
Though no one was injured in the incident, during her first trial she was sentenced to 20 years in about 12 minutes by a jury. Later, when prosector Angela Corey, the same woman who was the prosecutor in George Zimmerman’s trial, became involved, she sought to sentence Alexander to 60 years.
In November, Alexander pled guilty to three counts of aggravated assault with a weapon in order to get credit for the time she’d already served since her case was first brought to trial. She was sentenced to three years and was ordered to serve 65 days in jail and then two additional years on house arrest.
For the next two years, Alexander must wear a GPS ankle monitor and will only be allowed to leave her home to go to work, job interviews, church, family medical and dental appointments and to visit her children’s schools. Any other locations will require a judge’s permission.
You may remember that Alexander was ordered to pay for her own monitoring device. And with cost being $105 per week, that’s nearly $11,000 for her two year sentence.
Supporters raised the money to help eliminate these fees and a group of pastors offered Alexander a job at one of their ministries if she wants it.
As she left the courthouse, Alexander delivered a statement to her supporters and the media. Here’s what she had to say.
Four and a half years have passed since the events of August 1, 2010, but today, after the sentencing posed by Judge Daniel, my family and I will be able to move forward with our lives. Although the journey has been long and there have been many difficult moments, I could not have arrived here and where I am today without the thoughts–the many thoughts and many prayers–of so many people who have voiced their support and encouragement. Words could never express my gratitude for those who have stood by me, including my children and family. I’m also grateful that Judge Daniel approached this case with such care and diligence.
I look forward to the full time challenge of getting my two teenagers through high school and into college, as well as preparing my four-year-old daughter for nursery school. My goal is to continue my education, beyond my master’s degree and to continue my professional career. In moving forward, I will continue to learn lessons from the events of the past but I will not live in the past. At the age of 34, life is too short and there is too much that I have to accomplish in the years ahead. It is my hope and prayer that everyone associated with this case will also be able to move forward with their lives.
You can watch Ms. Alexander address her supporters and the media in the video below.
Terrence Howard Addresses Domestic Abuse Claims At TV Conference, FOX Says They Weren’t Aware Of Them Before “Empire” Casting
For some years now, there have been allegations of domestic abuse against Terrence Howard. His second wife, Michelle Ghent, claimed that he hit her when they went on a trip to Costa Rica in 2013 (though they had already divorced), and she has made claims of violence against hm for a while now. She was given a restraining order against him at one point.
There were also allegations that he punched his first wife, Lori McCommas, in 2001, and he was also arrested for alleged assaults on a Continental Airlines flight attendant and woman at a diner in in Pennsylvania over the years. Many of these things came to light after Howard made some questionable statements when asked his opinion about Chris Brown assaulting Rihanna back in 2009:
“It’s just life, man. Chris is a great guy. He’ll be all right. And Rihanna knows he loves her. She’ll be all right. Just everybody’s got to get out of their way.”
He would eventually retract those statements.
Yes, those allegations and records have been around for some time, but who knew that Howard, and his employers at FOX, would actually be asked about them in front of a room full of reporters and people?
At the Television Critics Association’s winter press conference in Pasadena, California, Philadelphia Daily News TV critic Ellen Gray asked the bigwigs at FOX if they were aware of his history of alleged domestic violence. Howard was also cast in a mini-series on FOX called Wayward Pines, which is airing soon: “When you’re doing casting, does this come up as part of the conversation?”
FOX CEO Dana Walden said they weren’t aware of such allegations before he was cast, but found out about them in December.
“I want to start by saying that we’ve been working with Terrence now for just about a year, and it’s been a fantastic experience. He’s a leader among that cast. He’s so professional. He’s been so hardworking and he’s just been a great partner to us. So our experience with Terrence has been excellent. We cast Terrence because our executive producers, Lee Daniels, Danny Strong, and Brian Grazer, felt that he was the best actor for that particular role. Our experience with him at that point was being fans of the films he’s done in the past and it seemed like a little bit of a no-brainer. So with Terrence, we really didn’t become aware of any of the situation you’re talking about until December. It wasn’t part of the conversation when we cast him.”
Gray continued to ask them how it wasn’t part of the conversation when the allegations have been “reported pretty widely” for years now. Walden continued:
“I can only tell you that that was when we were made aware of it. And the allegations at this point, we do know about them, but we’ve also had now a good long chunk of time. Terrence was also on Wayward Pines. The network executives who interacted with him had nothing but a great experience. So, no, it just didn’t come into the conversation.”
Howard wasn’t able to speak in his own defense during the conference, but during a later panel with the cast and crew of Empire, The Wrap gave him the chance to speak on his past:
“A lot of things that I got involved with in younger days, in the earlier days, was the product of my environment, the product of not knowing how to deal with frustration, the product of not knowing who Terrence Howard is, you know. Now I’m married with a new wife, with a brand new baby. I’ve grown so much from anything that’s happened in the past. And this present moment, to have a show that’s being that’s being held as a beautiful breakthrough piece, having a wonderful opportunity to have this cast, I don’t think they took any of that stuff into consideration. I think they looked at the talent and the power of right now and this moment and how people have grown and where they’re going to, and I embrace that, and I’m so thankful to them for doing that.”
According to Slate, Director Lee Daniels and Taraji P. Henson stood by him, both calling him a leader and saying “We are, Terrence.” But when another reporter asked him what he would say to his detractors, Howard was honest and said that it’s important for people to let others grow and learn from their mistakes:
“What you say is the only person that can really make the judgment, the final judgment, is the judge in the court, or God, at the end of the day. You leave it to them. So once you look at what the judges have said, there’s been no criminal charges ever filed against that person or anything like that. So you have to go by what the judge is saying. If it’s something valid, it’s something valid. If it’s not, it’s not, but you’ve got to give people a chance to grow from anything that happens because, remember, Jesus was nailed to the stake on the allegations of him being a blasphemer. I don’t think that was always true. So we’ve learned from that lesson. We slayed our Messiah under false accusations. We’ve got to give people a chance to show who they are.”
Victoria: How long is to long to be in a relationship without being or discussing marriage?
DY: That’s up to you to decide. If you think it’s too long, it’s too long. That said, from what I’ve observed, adult couples who get married seem to do it relatively quickly (within two or three years of first dating). You have your exceptions, obviously, but those are rare.