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It’s always amusing to hear stories about artists who passed on (or almost passed on) hit songs. For example, Rihanna’s “Umbrella” was turned down by Brittany Spears; B.O.B’s “Nothin’ on You” was turned down by Lupe Fiasco and Brittany Spears’ “…Baby One More Time” was turned down by TLC. It’s difficult to imagine that Destiny’s Child’s popular track, “Bug a Boo,” may have become the hit of another ‘90s group, but according to Kandi Burruss, who helped pen the track, that’s exactly what almost happened.
“When we first played the track ‘Bug A Boo’ to Destiny’s Child, I remember, they were kinda looking like, ‘Eh, I don’t know about this,’” Burruss told Yahoo Music.
Burruss went on to say that the girls weren’t really crazy about the tempo of the track.
“If you can remember what the track is like, it was like really fast. At the time people weren’t really singing over those types of tracks. You’d look at it as something they’d rap over,” she said.
Of course, queen Bey quickly called a group huddle and tried to get the ladies to be open with their feelings about the song.
“I remember Beyoncé was telling the rest of the girls, ‘Y’all, if we really don’t like this, maybe we should let him know.’ Because [the producer] She’sphere had stepped out the room,” The RHoA star recalled.
Thinking quickly, Kandi made a suggestion that ultimately won the teens over.
“I was like, ‘Well, if you don’t mind I could kinda like sing you the idea I was thinking, before you [decide],’” Kandi reflected. “They were like, ‘OK.’ At the time I think I only had like a verse and the hook kinda together. It wasn’t all the way together. It was just like a little bit of where I thought it could go. And they were like, ‘OK.’ And then we finished it together.”
The track wound up making the Top 40 list and Burruss credits her ability to speak up.
“So, it’s funny because had I not spoken up and said, ‘Hey,’ then that song would never exist,” she said.
Well, we’re definitely glad that she decided to interject when she did.
For old times’ sake…
Girl groups are coming back with a vengeance (minus that whole Danity Kane fiasco last year). But Fifth Harmony is holding it down for girl groups in the US. Their highly-anticipated debut album, Reflection, dropped recently. And with more girl power coming in 2015, we reminisced about some of the best girl group pop albums of the last 25 years. Girl power still rules!
Brother Of Deceased Destiny’s Child Founder Speaks: “It Took A Couple Of Deaths To Bring About This Group”
Last week, we broke news about the two forthcoming Destiny’s Child biopics, which are being put together by former Destiny’s Child manager Brian K. Moore. Both films will be based on Moore’s 2014 book, The Making of a Child of Destiny: The Andretta Tillman Story, which is about DC founder Andretta Tillman and her quest to create the ultimate girl group. We were able to catch up with Tillman’s brother, Lornonda Brown, who discussed his feelings about the films, his personal dealings with Mathew Knowles and the pain and heartache that Destiny’s Child was birthed from.
MN: Have you read Brian Moore’s book about your sister, Andretta Tillman?
No, I haven’t. Not entirely, no I haven’t.
MN: He’s working on two movies based on the book and the early days of Destiny’s Child. Were you aware of that?
Yes, he spoke to me briefly about it.
MN: And what were your thoughts?
I think it’s a great idea. I think that it’s been a long time coming. I think it’s a great story of how a person can go from rags to riches and all of the avenues that it took for them to get there. My sister was one of the avenues and quite a few people she actually touched. They were diamonds in the rough and I guess they’re where they want to be at this point. They are up there with the stars.
MN: I noticed that when we first reported on Brian’s movie projects and book, many people were negative about it and said that he was trying to ride Beyoncé’s coattails. It was as if they felt Andretta’s story being told was somehow going to take away from the legacy of Destiny’s Child.
What I’d say is that is if it is a truth, then it is what it is. As long as nothing is fabricated, there are no lies and you can back up what you say with the facts, that’s not riding anything. That’s just making a statement. Even when we had the lawsuit against Music World/Sony, we weren’t out to discourage, tear up or blemish the name. Beyoncé is a person who put in work and God bless her. That’s great. All we’re doing is telling a story of how it happened and the pain that was endured in its happening. Not to receive nothing from her or take anything from her, but if it’s a true story to be told, it shouldn’t hurt anybody by it being told—unless you got something to hide.
MN: Tell me about the lawsuit with Sony.
When my sister died, we owned half of Music World Management. In the state of Texas, if you set up any kind of business as a partnership and you license the name at a courthouse, if one person dies, the next heir in the family comes up front. Your partner’s name doesn’t just die in the partnership and that’s what happened.
MN: What were your personal experiences like with Mathew Knowles?
Mathew Knowles and I, we were fine. We were good. It’s just a matter of business that had to be taken care of. His morals are a little bit out there, but we all come short, as far as morals go. That’s just being human. But when it comes to business and the law and you break a law in this great ole’ USA, you got to stand and account for it; and it was a law he broke. I still say God bless him. I hope he’s doing well. I can drink tea or coffee with him and it’s not going bother me any. I’ve got no hard feelings. Really, I can’t put him in heaven or hell; but he’ll stand and account for everything he’s done, just like I’ll have to. I hope everything keeps going well for him and Beyoncé as well.
MN: Publicly, do you feel that Andretta has been given proper credit for the role that she played in the creation and development of Destiny’s Child?
Well, no not really. I’ll say it like this, when you do an interview, just tell the truth. Don’t turn it into something that it’s not and that’s what happened in the start with all of these interviews and documentaries. Only recently, her name has been brought up. Now, when you look back at it and you see that someone put up $300,000 plus on you, you kind of need to just acknowledge it and say what happened. Nobody is going to get no big credit, but when you sit up and just act like it didn’t exist–when you had her sons suffering and you’re sitting back watching the lights and stuff get cut off every now and then. When you’re behind on car notes and little stuff like that. $300,000 plus put somebody where they needed to be and you just forget all about them when you get out there on your documentaries? Sure, they said something on the first album or so, but then on the documentaries, when you’re in front of the camera, and you don’t acknowledge that this person was even there, that’s just not good.
I want to tell you where Andretta got the money from. Andretta’s husband, her two sons and her daughter were in a car and they were in Tyler for the weekend. A driver was speeding and as they were pulling out, the driver struck the car, killing her husband instantly. He lost his life instantly and her daughter lost her life in that car wreck. Her daughter died in my other sister’s arms. They took all of them to the hospital and they released everyone. The police did not check the driver to see if he had alcohol in his system, but the hospital checked it. After everyone was released, the hospital told my sister that the driver had alcohol in his system. She pressed charges and she sued the City of Tyler for not pressing charges on the guy that killed her husband and her daughter. She won the lawsuit and the insurance money from her daughter—her husband’s name was Dwight Tillman and her daughter’s name was Shauna Tillman—and she came up with the name DwiShaun Management. Those are the monies that were used to start off the careers of the girls. It took a couple of deaths to bring about this group. There was a lot of pain that went into this deal. It wasn’t just someone going to the bank pulling money.
MN: This was birthed from her pain.
Yes, and she did it all the way until her last breath. She was doing business from her hospital bed.
MN: That adds so much more to the story.
Yes, it does. So right now her son is setting up the Andretta Tillman Lupus Fund. She died of Lupus. In her last days, all of her main organs failed and she simply couldn’t stay with us any longer.
I wish everyone the best. Mathew, Kelly, Beyoncé. I just wish the best for them. My sister is in another place right now, but whatever place she’s in, she’s still pushing the business from where she is, through us. In the decisions that we make in the businesses that we are in, in music and entertainment, we think about the decisions that she made and what she would say because true enough, quite a few of them that she touched, they’re out there on the top. Those are the things we can actually learn from.
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Mathew Knowles is frequently credited with founding Destiny’s Child. However, as the true story goes, a woman by the name of Andretta Tillman actually played a major role in the foundation and success of the group. As we’ve learned over the years, back then they went by the name Girls Tyme. We were recently afforded the opportunity to speak with Brian K. Moore, who co-managed the group alongside Knowles and Tillman until she passed away. Moore, who authored a book setting the record straight about Destiny’s Child’s early days titled, The Making of a Child of Destiny: The Andretta Tillman Story, revealed that he is in the middle of producing two biopics about the supergroup, apart from the biopic Knowles has expressed interest in producing. Apparently, there’s so much that has yet to be told. Check out our chat with Moore below.
MN: What was the nature of your relationship with Andretta Tillman?
“I was Andretta’s [business] partner. We were co-managers of Destiny’s Child along with Mathew Knowles.”
MN: I realize that you’re not working on just one Destiny’s Child biopic, but two. How come?
“Well, after I was approached by several producers who read my book [The Making of a Child of Destiny: The Andretta Tillman Story] and they wanted to take an approach of doing one more focusing on the lives of Destiny’s Child as kids and then another that focused more on Andretta and the management as well as the adult version of the story. So we decided to split it up into two.”
MN: Have you spoken to any of the ladies of Destiny’s Child since the release of your book?
“I’ve spoken with Latavia. I’ve also spoke with Nikki and Nina, two of the other girls who were in the original group, Girls Tyme. I haven’t spoken with any [current] members of Destiny’s Child after the release of the book, no I haven’t.”
MN: How do you believe that your movie will be received by past and present members of Destiny’s Child?
“I think it will be greatly received. It’s the true story of what really happened and how it all came to be. It’s a story that only myself or one of the girls in the group could tell.”
MN: What can you tell us about the late Andretta Tillman?
“Andretta was an incredible woman, very strong willed. There were some incidents that happened in her life that brought the onset of lupus. She battled that. She was on a mission with her husband to create a group. Going to the grave, she accomplished that. Following the loss of her husband and through her will, she was able to create Destiny’s Child. I was able to be there and bear witness to her greatness and the creation of that group.”
MN: What do you desire for viewers to walk away with after seeing your films?
“Well, I hope viewers walk away realizing the sacrifices that were made to put Destiny’s Child together. There were so many sacrifices from all of the families—the parents, as well as the sacrifices that the girls made. It’s such an incredible story of determination, will and a woman’s drive in her dying breath to achieve something. I think viewers will walk away with the reality that Beyoncé didn’t just ‘wake up like this.’ That was a journey. That was a struggle.”
MN: Do you have an estimated timeline of how soon it will be before these projects come to fruition?
“Well on the timeline, we’ve been speaking with several movie companies. I’ve partnered with Brooklyn Media Group, which is led by James A. Pearson. James has done work with Oprah Winfrey and huge entertainment entities. He’s a mainstay in the movie and entertainment business. We got with him to kind of expedite the review process and of course, selling the rights to the book and things of that nature. We’re in the middle of those negotiations now. We were at CBS about two weeks ago and we met with several studios and film companies. We’re just finalizing the two different screenplays. By the end of the year, hopefully we’ll have something done and start filming one of the movies.”
MN: I read in an article that Mathew wanted to manage Girls Tyme and in order to do so, he presented Andretta with an ultimatum to either make him co-manager or he would take Beyoncé out of the group. Is that true?
“Yeah, that’s a true statement. When we were managing the group, success started to come. Andretta did an incredible job as far as getting the girls to ‘Star Search’ and where we needed to be in front of the movers and shakers of the industry and all of these wonderful things started to happen. Mathew did work his way into the management team by playing the card of removing Beyoncé.”
MN: Would you say that Mathew took advantage of Mrs. Tillman at all?
“Well, I don’t want to give the book and movie away. I said everything in the book where readers can go and find out. There are a lot of things that happened and I don’t want to badger anybody, but readers can really find out in the book and the movies as well.”
One interesting thing that the Sony hacks revealed was that Mathew Knowles had been trying to put together a Destiny’s Child biopic. Last week, the showbiz dad sat down with the Wall Street Journal to discuss his plans for the film and a possible Destiny’s Child reunion album.
“Their story, which starts when they were nine or 10 years old in Houston, it’s a story that really engages you. It talks about their challenges, their successes, their failures,” he explained. “One of the great aspects of a Destiny’s Child movie or a play is the empowerment of the songs and the empowerment that Destiny’s Child has given to women.”
In addition to saying that he would “absolutely have to have” creative control to move forward with the biopic, he also explained that he would really like for all of the ladies of Destiny’s Child to partake in production of the film.
“I would also want the ladies of Destiny’s Child to be involved and engaged with it and get their support. That would be important as well. That story is very special to us and we want to make sure and ensure that we get the right screenwriter, that we build the right team around it and that we have the right network.”
Speaking of Destiny’s Child, he also claimed that there could be another album from the group in the future, as he insists that they never actually “broke up.”
“Most people don’t know that I still officially manage Destiny’s Child. Destiny’s Child…some people use the words “broke up.” Destiny’s Child has never broken up officially. So don’t be surprised one day if there’s a new record or a tour because the group never officially broke up.”
Knowles went on to insist that the ladies going solo was all part of his “strategy.” While a new Destiny’s Child album would be lovely, I certainly will not be holding my breath waiting for it.
Watch Mathew’s full interview below. Thoughts?
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The highly publicized Sony email leak has finally revealed something useful other than corporate racism and greed. Apparently there is a Destiny’s Child biopic in the works and you’ll never guess who’s behind it.
OK, well maybe you’ll guess whose idea it was in the first place. According to The Daily Beast:
An email dated December 4, 2013, from Screen Gems honcho Clint Culpepper to Pascal and a team of Sony execs discusses how Beyoncé’s father, Matthew Knowles, went to him to try and set up a Destiny’s Child biopic.
“Matthew Knowles, Beyonce’s Father wants to make the film of Destiny’s Child and came to me first,” wrote Culpepper. “He’s going to Universal next. Do we think it would be a successful film? They’re on Sony label. I’m just not sure that it’s not too soon.”
While a Destiny’s Child biopic sounds great — although we’re giving Matthew the sideye because he knows he’s not in the inner circle anymore — we have to agree with Culpepper that it’s a bit too soon. Michelle, Kelly, and Beyonce still have much to accomplish and DC only split within the last 10 years. Unfortunately, Lifetime doesn’t share that same opinion because The Daily Beast also revealed the network that brought us the Aaliyah story and soon “Whitney,” already has a Destiny’s Child biopic slated for February 2015! Yes, in just two months. Perhaps the network is taking a cue from the Aaliyah biopic and opting not to announce casting choices — or any other early details about the flick — for fear of an unprecedented amount of Twitter shade before the debut. Or else, they’ve just pushed the date back and we’ll all be in for a potentially unpleasant surprise next year. We shall see.
Beyoncé’s Publicist Spills The Tea On Destiny’s Child’s Early Days & Columbia Records’ Low Expectations Of Them
Before Destiny’s Child became the mega group we know them as today, they were simply a teen girl group that record executives didn’t expect much from, so says their then-publicist Yvette Noel-Schure. Yvette, who still handles publicity for Beyoncé under her own PR firm Schure Media Group, revealed in an interview with The Jake Sasseville Show that during her stint of employment with Columbia Records, her boss pretty much wanted her to babysit the foursome until they either transferred to another label or went back home to Texas.
“I remember sitting at Columbia Records and Larry Jenkins, who I will praise to the day I die for giving me that opportunity, he said ‘We just signed a girl group from Houston, you just came from Black Beat, you can get along with these teenagers, dah. You should take them, dah.’ ‘” Yvette recalled.
She went on to note that at the time, due to the success of girl groups such as TLC and En Vogue, label execs simply expected the group being signed to Columbia to be nothing more than a learning experience for the teens.
“I knew in that moment that he did not know what the capacity for success would be for this girl group. TLC was so big, En Vogue a little older and killing it vocally and I don’t know if the plan was to set in place. I believe in that moment, Larry said, ‘If nothing comes of this, Yvette can teach them a few things and I don’t know that he expected me to be a great publicist to this great group. I think he thought ‘For as long as we have them on the label, Yvette can be a mother figure …”
Although Yvette says that while there wasn’t a whole lot that she was able to teach the girls, she was able to mold them into the poised public figures we know them as today.
“I sat down with them [Destiny’s Child] and did makeup lessons but they were pretty advanced in terms of beauty because Ms. Tina Knowles was such a central figure in the lives of the girls of Destiny’s Child. Not just Beyoncé, but Kelly who was raised in her house, LaTavia and LeToya, the original two members, their friendship blossomed in that house. They understood about hair and how they wanted to look, it was the most incredible thing. But I knew in that moment that if Columbia Records trusted me with these young women, and if Tina Knowles and Matthew Knowles trusted me to leave a room and leave me with these young women and knew that if they walked out of a room, I wasn’t going to be shooting up a needle or smoking a blunt or cursing. These were young girls. I knew the responsibility of that moment and I knew being a publicist was not what I needed to do. I needed to be a teacher, a guide and a mentor.”
“There wasn’t a lot I could teach those girls, they could sing the ‘ABC’s’ and make me look like … but it was about ‘Here’s how I live my life,’ ‘Here’s how I come to work and I work really, really hard.’ I can not teach you how to sing but I will tell you that when you enter the room, your interview has begun. Everything is on the record, what you say, what you did, if you were slumping in your chair — so don’t slump in your chair because that’s going to be part of the description in the interview.”
“One of the things I know that Beyoncé probably appreciates about me, especially now that she has created her own family… is that I always said to the girls, at the end of everything, ‘I’m going home to my babies.’ It got to the point where the girls of Destiny’s Child used to mouth it to me after the interviews or a press day and I would say ‘I’m going to meet my babies’ and they’d mouth ‘She’s going to meet her babies.’
I was making it very clear that the work is over now for me.”
Listen to Yvette’s full interview on the next page.
The ’90s girl groups we all loved at one time have seemingly all disappeared. That era was overrun with women doing their thing, dominating the radio with break-up playlists, love making tunes and pre-game records. You can’t talk about ’90s R&B without giving a nod and some love to the ladies and gents who banded together to provide perfect harmonies for our ears to bump to.
In this new age where technology dominates and artists become stars courtesy of Vine, Instagram and YouTube, it’s hard to miss that there are no reigning girl groups around. The industry has become saturated with solo artists all producing the same sound and looking the exact same, and the industry is also littered with failed reunion attempt after failed reunion attempt from folks who still can’t seem to get along. What’s changed?
In this new scope of music, it seems like the outlook is pretty grim. Can there be another TLC? Can there be another girl group with an impact thanks to songs that detail a little bit of everything, including the struggle of battling depression, calls for unity and even safe sex? With plenty of social injustices in the world, there is certainly a void for women to fill.
How about the records that made you feel s*xy and empowered at the same time? Xscape’s “Tonight” vocalized women’s desires without being crass, and the group maintained a sense of elegance – baggy clothing and all.
Even with Diddy’s Making The Band, a group of talented young women who managed to top the charts couldn’t foster a lucrative career as one unit. Danity Kane’s early success appeared promising with their self-titled album, knocking pop veteran Christina Aguilera’s Back to Basics album out of the No. 1 spot on the Billboard 200. But after touring and starring on a reality show, they couldn’t get it and keep it together. Everyone wanted to do something different and animosity between members was crazy. Breaking up. Making Up. And now Danity Kane have broken up for good after a physical scuffle between Aubrey O’Day and Dawn Richard. At this point, their track record is almost synonymous to Chris Brown and Karrueche Tran’s relationship–just unstable.
There is unfortunately no rule book or recipe to concoct the new millennium guide to success, but there is a market being ignored due to the lack of staying power from girl groups. The inability for women to remain and dominate as a band begs the question of whether or not the power in numbers has dissipated? Judging by Beyoncé, Kelly Rowland and Michelle – all of whom have gone on and led prosperous lives post Destiny’s Child – it appears the proof is in the pudding.
I miss having a group like 702 or En Vogue dazzle audiences with their powerful range and dance moves, and I hope that the historic revolving door in music allows for girl groups to shine and reign atop the charts once again. At this very moment, however, I’ll continue to play oldies but goodies and live out the music I miss with the help of YouTube.
Yesterday, we told you that former Destiny’s Child singer, Farrah Franklin, was arrested this past weekend for disorderly conduct. Besides sources claiming that alcohol definitely played a role in the arrest, not many details were released regarding the incident. However, more recent reports are suggesting that things got pretty crazy the night she was locked up.
For one, TMZ is reporting that police officers discovered Franklin laying down on a lawn that did not belong to her, which is when she allegedly told officers that she was planning to “sleep in the woods” because she had nowhere to go.
The way the story is being told, Franklin was flown out to Myrtle Beach by Tampa Bay Buccaneers player Da’Quan Bowers. The pair reportedly spent a night out on the town with Houston Texans player Ricky Sapp and the alcohol was flowing pretty freely. The trio then went back to Sapp’s place and Farrah’s highly-inebriated condition became apparent to everyone.
Things got so out of hand that Sapp and Bowers reportedly decided to call the police, which is when Franklin reportedly fled the scene. The pro athletes told officers that they believed the singer had been doing drugs that night, as she ventured into the bathroom for extended periods of time throughout the evening. After searching the neighborhood, officers found her sprawled out on a neighbor’s lawn. Officer’s described the singer as “highly intoxicated” and “unstable on her feet.” She reportedly denied using drugs when officers asked.
While she did not specifically address reports that she was using drugs, Franklin did have this to say to Instagram followers about her mugshot and allegations about her behavior:
“That part! I’m good just hate the dumb media sometimes, but hey this is the job I signed up for. So I respect it #TurnDownForWhat #TeamFARRAH #GodsChild #Instagram”
So far, Franklin’s reps have not returned our calls for a request to comment.
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I’m going to let you in on a little secret… I’ve been harboring a deep desire to dance. Every since my aunt Annette made my sisters and I watch a VHS of all of Michael Jackson’s music videos up until “Smooth Criminal” when we were children, I have loved everything that is choreographed and put to music.
However, I’m a little shy to dance on a stage… in front of a crowd… with eyes watching me. So, I dance in private, while practicing these popular music videos with amazing choreography. And if I was a betting person, I would bet you have too (or at least marveled at them). Which videos you ask?