Ask a Very Smart Brotha: Prison Dudes and Passive Procrastinators

October 19th, 2011 - By madamenoire

Hey Damon,

I’m in a very confused situation right now, I have this guy whom I have been liked for a very long time. We both seemed to have felt the same way about each other. Anyway, he went to jail for 4 years ( yes I said jail, but he was/ is a nice dude so whatever). He sent me a letter when he got there letting me how he felt about me and how when he got home he would look for me. Since I was unable to respond because my kids father tore the letter I just put him as outta sight outta mind, sort of. I thought about him from time to time but that’s it… He made a big impact on me because he never tried anything with me, he never propositioned me for sex with or anything. It was weird he made me feel like a teenager all mushy and stuff, and I liked it because I never had that feeling for anyone before, not even my kids father…and at the time I was being treated horribly by my kids father and I was just in a hard place….. OK well when he got back my mom told me he came looking for me. I never expected him here so soon, but now that he is I’m like a  teenager again…But of course since I have had so much bad luck with men I don’t want this to end up like the previous ones. He tells me stuff like he wants to be with me, how he wants to take me out, that I’m going to be his wife, all the things that sound good but I’m scared because a little known hater told me that a man that just got out of jail will tell you anything. That scares me because I had feelings for him before he left and now that he’s back the feelings are stronger. I’m definitely scared to share my feelings with him, I’m super shy around him. I want to open up really badly but I fear that he may just be telling me what I want to hear because of his situation.  I’m so scared of getting hurt. Every time I think of the future I always go back to the fact that he could be just playing with me. What should I do? How do I go about handling this situation. I need help. THANK YOU.

Sincerely,

Pining over a Parolee

 

Dear Pining over a Parolee,

Sounds like your emotions are all locked up. The jury is still out on whether there’s an actual future between you two. I understand how pining over someone you’re not able to see or touch can put you in a mental, emotional, and sexual prison, and I’m not one to judge someone who finds themselves in that position. (Get it? “Locked up?” “Jury?” “Prison?” “Judge?” See how clever I am?)

Ok. Full disclosure. My mom occasionally reads these columns, and last week she asked me to try — for a week — to be a little kinder when responding to certain questions. I didn’t agree at first, but she promised to make me French Toast and bacon the next time I visit her if I heeded her request. And, since I can’t pass up free pork, I’m actively attempting to decrease the snark.

Thing is, Pining, subtracting the sarcasm makes me unable to answer your question the way it needs to be answered. I desperately want to joke about how men in prison will do anything — fanatically work out, convert to Islam, take up fellatio, etc — to make their time easier, and how writing letters to unhappy women falls into that category. I’d also probably touch on the phrase “little known hater,” and I’d ask you to explain what the hell that meant.

(I mean, isn’t that somewhat redundant? Aren’t all haters little known? Or, did you mean little “known hater?” Like, this guy is a known hater who just happens to be very tiny. If this is true, does he bare any resemblance to Katt Williams?)

But, since swine is on my mind, I’m just going to advise you to listen to the little known hater. I get that the sweet talking prison dude has you all damp down there, but everything about this letter and your situation — the pining former prisoner, the baby daddy with anger issues — screams disaster waiting to happen. If you were single I might advise you to just be careful and make sure to triple up, but since you have a young child, you have to be smarter than that. Distance yourself as far as you Fawking can from both of these losers to at least give your child a fighting chance in life so that in 20 years, he’s not the dude writing chicks letters from prison.

Sincerely,

Damon Young (aka The Champ)

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4LOANJOSLNPJXRMHLAI2OQTSJY StatusNo

    ……correction. 26

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4LOANJOSLNPJXRMHLAI2OQTSJY StatusNo

    I would think after 28 years you would grow a brain. But I guess the moniker ‘babygirl’ says it all.

  • babygirl26

    I would like to say thankyou for the comments and the advice, I have no problem taking criticism as someone posted, I meant known hater as in someone in my life who is just negative about everything I do period…..I also never said I was still in a relationship with the my childs father, I said he has put me through a lot both in, and out of the relationship, I first off do love my child to death and i would never bring anyone around them if I did not feel that my child was comfortable around that person. I also never said that I would just jump into a relationship with this person. as I said he is friend whom i"ve known for a very long time…..I dont think that I am stupid for asking a question, its not like we are about to get married or make babies, its was just a question of whether or not I should let it go or just see what happens…… But again appreciate the feedback. Thankyou

  • OSHH

    No JAIL BIRDS, and I'm not sorry. This dude doesn't have himself together yet.
    2nd letter, maybe he does love her as a FRIEND and person but not in a wanting to be with you, be my lady kinda way.

  • Jonbo

    hell nah …she going to get played….

    Subway giving away $250 giftcards http://goo.gl/yTpgz …4 their 40th anniversary…next 24 hours only ..i been eating free all week..lol

  • LouisianaLickableLip

    Damon, wtfffffff were u tryna say in ur response??!!! Im all confused….pork, ur mama, sarcasm? It should have been a simple NO.

    Pining, u need to let the prison dude STAND ON HIS OWN b4 getting into a r-ship with him. Let him PROVE himself worthy of u. And sounds like u need to cut off the b.d. And, start thinking POSITIVE abt r-ships! Taking a more positive outlook will bring u a happy r-ship! Good Luck!

  • 1king

    1# See this is what I'm talkin about. She is so dumb. I am not going to mince words. Just dumb as the day is long. First you had a baby by a loser. Then you stayed with the loser. Then you get a letter from another loser and your ready to get with him when he comes home. Give him a baby that he can't take care of cause regular people can't get jobs and they don't have a bad record so what can he do. Then after he dumps you, you go back to school wit two kids now and then tell the whole world how ain't no good black men. All because you made bad decisions in men. You are stupid and you deserve to be miserable. I only feel sorry for your kids. You need to grow up and get real.

  • weethomas

    Umm, #2, you have already told us that both of you have been in the classic friendzone. Discussing relationship issues with someone is automatic friendzone status. Other friendzone indicators (you've spent significant time at his house w/o him evening getting up to bat). Even with the women with whom i'm in the friendzone, were we to find ourselves in such a situation and I were single. . . anyway, the friendzone is a black hole of relationships, you only exit by dying (or destroying the relationship). Now, that said, he is a man and despite knowing he's been in the friendzone and knowing it won't ever really be more, he's hoping for a little (let's see if there was something here) action before cutting you off for good (after all, he lives elsewhere now). Clearly, you are in position for that, because you two obviously just got out of relationships, otherwise you wouldn't be entertaining these thoughts or talking to him and this is the best time for him to pounce.

    Now, if you want a night of fun where the next morning you say goodbye never to talk to each other again, then on the pretext of talking about your feelings for each other, go visit him, or in your case, have him come visit you. If you have no interest in this, do yourself a favor and shut him down for good. Here is how (and this is actually the easiest, best, and nicest way to do so – no matter what you may think or any women would tell you):

    "Hi, we have been friends for x amount of years. I don't have any romantic feelings for you and have no interest or intention of ever sleeping with you. It has been a pleasure knowing you, but it is time we both move on. Goodbye".

  • Jay Bee

    Another…Slam…Dunk…
    Well played, Very Smart Brotha, well played.

    FYI- "Your Degrees Won't Keep You Warm at Night" is HIL-EFFING-LARIOUS.

  • http://www.facebook.com/APeachJ Ashley Jones

    Damon,

    You a Damn Fool! lmao

    I love reading your responses! A Brotha Keepin It Real.

    Thank You for Always Speaking the Truth

  • JustAshley

    Mad at you SmartBrotha for giving into pork over making us laugh (for the first story anyway). I did giggle over, "I mean, waiting for you to let him put his +6@4@ in your (@@4!!" in the second story. I agree with your advice on both though.
    *
    #1. Wait, sooo you are STILL in a relationships with your kids father and yet you are pining after parolee dude? Maybe you should get out of one relationship, before diving face first into another. Second why are you aiming so low? I understand people make mistakes but…….what did he get locked up for? Do you want that around your kids? I mean if he just got out, he can't be in a place financially or emotionally where he can take on an entire family. I think you're caught up in the fantasy. If you leave your kids father for this guy, I'm predicting you'll be running back in no time flat. #I'mJustSayin'
    *
    #2. Its like you and this guy are using each other as the Fall Back option. If he truly "loved you" he wouldn't be pursuing relationships with other people. If he loved you, he'd be PURSUING YOU. I hope you realize that while giving ear to his "sweet nothings" in your ear at night- you can't truly be emotionally available for anyone else. These words tug at your heart strings keeping you at limbo. I say put up some boundaries. No more of that "I love you" bull unless he means it in a friend/family sort of way. No more of that touchy feely nonsense. Close contact should be reserved for romantic interest only, and he hasn't established himself as such.
    *
    Sidenote: Am I the only one seeing #2's guy as a pimp/player/hoe type who probably has several women he whispers sweet nothings too??

  • somethingdifferent

    yeah with the jail dude the only thing i'd wanna know is did Fleece Johnson get to him?(google him if you don't know him)

    • Is It 5:00 Yet?

      I like ya and I want cha’. We can do this the easy way or hard way. The choice is yours. LOL!

  • http://twitter.com/aisha1908 Aisha

    Passive Procrastinators; I'm not sure I could tell whether Confused Jamaican even wanted to be with this guy. It sounds like he is either A) a trigger shy guy who "ends up" in relationships with nice people who are persistent, but never right for him or B) a guy who appreciates you and thinks you'll make a good spouse but is missing that "spark" that you need to actually forge a relationship. in other words, you're the backup-blanket.

  • Tash

    Lol!I agree with KayPee 100%.. Sorry hun its a big hell to tha NO..I think those same things too…. too much risks involved not just physically but emotionally as well and babygirl in the end it just aint worth all tht trouble

  • http://twitter.com/aisha1908 Aisha

    Prison Dudes; re: "what should I do?" – Pining over a Parolee, I say, see a therapist first to cope with the abusive relationship with your child's father and spend time considering whether you're even ready to date anyone period. Being mistreated leaves you in the position where anyone but the abuser is leagues better. Not to say this guy in prison isn't "the one" – maybe he is – but how can you be so sure when you might still be raw from that wack relationship with baby daddy? Damon, in your advice, you speak as if incarcerated men invented and patented that whatever-you-want-girl-I'll-provide-it-to-you-just-gimme-the-draws shpiel. Men are socialized to flirt this way – not saying all men do it, but I can confidently say young men are molded into smoothtalkers & flirts from toddlerhood.

  • Chek

    I agree with VerySmartBrotha to a certain extent. She has a young child and considerable emotional baggage from her relationship with that child's father, so tread ever so lightly with the parolee. However, from what I've seen of prisoners, it's when they are still confined that their professions of love should be taken with a grain of salt. Usually the flip flop happens when they're free again. Dude is free and still checking for her. I think that's a good sign that his interest is genuine and not just based on an overactive imprisoned imagination.

  • KayPee

    NO! No, Prisoner Dudes. I don't care how nice he seems, good looking, Fab jail muscles, "innocent", etc., I would always look at him like "I wonder how many times he got bent over" or looking for those tendencies….Way too much to think about! NO Prisoners!!!

    • Candy

      LMFAO!

    • Reese

      I was thinking that too. Four years does he have a gf in the joint or is he the gf in the joint.lol

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