Ask a Very Smart Brotha: White Girls, Soul Food & Marvin’s Room

September 21st, 2011 - By admin

Dear Ask a Very Smart Brotha,

I have a situation that needs your advice.

My boyfriend and I have been dating for about 10 months. We’re both middle aged and get along great. The one issue between us is he’s African American and I’m white, and he’s never dated outside his race. I have, I’m cool with it, but he’s a little.. uncomfortable at times, I guess. His comfort level has gotten better over time but he’s still very conscious of the fact that I’m white, he’s black. As an example, we were talking about where we would go for dinner and I mentioned soul food (YUM!). He was quiet, then suggested someplace else. I asked if he didn’t feel like soul food, and then he told me he wasn’t sure he’d feel comfortable going to a soul food restaurant with me. I’d be fine with it – wouldn’t be my first trip to eat some tasty greens, wings, whatever. He’s been honest about this stuff with me and I know it’s a serious thing, and I don’t want to push. We have been to some events where I was one of just a few non-African Americans and I was comfortable – he was a little nervous – but everything was fine.

I’m wondering if you have any suggestions of how I can help him feel more comfortable, or how we can work together to see if we can work through this. He’s a wonderful man – caring, funny, great dad, supportive – and I want to do what I can to make this work, but I also don’t want to be 3 years down the road and have him decide it won’t work.

I appreciate any help you can give!

Sincerely,

Bay Area WF  :)

 

Dear Bay Area WF,

Reading this letter recalls a bit of a dilemma I faced while catching the bus to work a few years ago. It was packed when I got on, but I was lucky enough to find a seat near the front — the last empty seat. A younger and attractive white woman — think January Jones, the actress who plays Betty Draper on “Mad Men” — got on at the next stop, and stood next to where I was sitting. Now, the gentlemanly thing to do in this situation is to stand up and offer your seat to the woman. But, as I was about to do this, another thought went through my head

“Dammit. All the people on this bus are going to think that I’m colorstruck and doing this just because she’s a pretty white girl.”

 I gave up the seat, but I also felt the (real or imagined) eyes of each of the bus riders staring at me, and that was the longest five minute bus ride I’d ever been on. A part of me was even tempted to turn around and scream “Stop judging me!!!  I love my black momma and black women!!! I have a black girlfriend, and even though my black girlfriend is light-skinned, I think Kelly Rowland is super hot!!!”      

Anyway, I’m bringing this up because it appears as if your man doesn’t want everyone to think that he’s “that guy.” And, by “everyone” I mean “black women” and by “that guy” I mean “one of those guys who only dates white women.” I can definitely understand why this may seem frivolous and silly. After all, you’re both old enough where these types of societal pressures shouldn’t still affect how a person chooses to live their romantic life. Also, just like how I’m sure that most of the people on that bus didn’t give a damn about me giving up the seat to a white woman, I’m sure 95% of the black women you all encounter could give two Shytes about who he happens to be dating. This neurosis is largely psychosomatic.

This neurosis occurs because we realize that being branded as that guy has the possibility to affect us socially and romantically. It’s a very, very, very small possibility, but the possibility does exist.

In this case, though, your man has to get the hell over himself. If you’re good enough to date and presumably sleep with, you should be good enough to sport wherever. There’s nothing you can do to make him more comfortable, but I do think you need to confront him about this. Tell him that if he wants to continue dating you, he can’t continue to act like he’s ashamed of you. If he can’t get over himself, then, well, I suggest you get on a packed bus in an inner-city neighborhood, and date the first guy who doesn’t hesitate to give up his seat for you. Sure, there’s a (large) chance that you might not be compatible, but at least you’ll know that he’d have no problem taking you to the soul food spot.

Sincerely,

Damon Young (aka The Champ)

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  • Ashley

    We all know that he's only trying to get a rise out of us. So why give it to him? Moving on.

  • TuTu

    I am half American Indian, half Scotch, and my Mom was the A.I. blood. With that said, she always taught us that we were no different races, but all were HUMAN RACE. We all bleed red blood, have the same internal body parts per sex, and all have emotional feelings. We were raised color blind, and I am 59, so if my parents were that kind, sensible and upwardly mobile for their time, what is wrong with this generation.
    Please remove your head so that you can think rationally!! Lord help Us

  • Sweetblaq

    You weren't saying that last night, Prince. Actually, you weren't saying much of anything while your face was stuffed in my sweet black goodies ya liar.

  • Chyeah

    Don't even loook at them, KIm. I'm not bothered when I see black men with white women, however I won't go out of my way to glean them with approval. If they were the same race, would you do those things?

    They're your typical normal couple, so treat them as such.

  • Chyeah

    THANK YOU!!!

    I do not care who black men date, as this has been going on for a long time. It's getting old, really.

    Just stop looking down my face because I'm not with a black man.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002427586133 Casher O'neil

    Wow, didn't you just have some riots over there with racial undertones? Pot, meet kettle!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002427586133 Casher O'neil

    No, I don't wince when I see a black man with a white woman, because there are so many in my large city that I would be wincing all day, and who has time for that? The men are usually "hood rat" type men with white women who are often fat and/or attractive, or even demented-looking, women that most white men don't want. More often than not I see white women with mixed race kids with no man around. Or if the black man is rich or a celebrity they get a white woman who is a former Playboy bunny or a stripper — the white man's sloppy seconds.

    It is what it is.

  • ja

    There are mad people on here telling her to leave this man because of this. That is ridiculous. She already said he is a good man and gave specific reasons as to why she believes he is. Reasons which I think we could all respect. Because he doesn’t want to go to a soul food restaurant with her may have nothing to do with being ashamed of her. It might be what she says he said it was-uncomfortable, but not bc of shame, but rather disdain. Let’s stop frontin’ here. People are entitled to their feelings and feelings are real. If they go to the soul food spot, it might be that no one there will care at all. But they are middle-aged and although there are those that say their age should insulate them against insecurities, it also means they are old enough to remember backlash from the community against interracial relationships. He didn’t just make this up if it’s what he’s feeling. Plenty of black women do and have taken it personally. I’m certain he is one of the many black men who have heard black women go on tirades about black men with white women. He probably heard elders say things like, “if she can’t use your comb, don’t bring her home”. It’s not easy for most people to separate themselves from cultural memories and experiences that anchor them to the world for good or ill. So it may not be that she needs to leave him or that he needs to “grow balls”. It may just be that he needs more time, discussion and understanding like a man/woman might need with any issue. Remember this is his first interracial relationship and to her he is a great catch; she probably wants it to be his last (in a good way). The relationship is probably a thing worth fighting for and both of their feelings are things worth protecting.

  • IllyPhilly

    Your post was too damn long. What d you wince for at all? That ain't ya man and she ain't Casey Anthony.

  • another point

    get over yourself. the past is the past and everyone is trying to move on from it. White Culture is the enemy? if that isn't reverse racism to a world where we are trying to end it . . .

    • shelshel

      you get over urself….i love how AA are naive to the facts of which EA treats us. i don't care what on one says about IR except its a joke. i'm a AA female who never care nor be caught in a IR. don't matter how dark they want their coffee….ur still a n!gg3r, when you pist them off. and let's no be stupid enough to say that they (EA) don't say that to their AA mate. Some AA make me sick on how stupid and brainwash when its comes to african knowledge. instead of being on a gossip/entertaining site…do some effing research on ur culture. I see that most AA is going to be left behind. i can't wait until that day comes and you morons are asking questions "why" to the elite deities. i'm sure it's a couple of dummies thinking that i'm crazy or just think that i'm blabbing my mouth.

      • soulsaver

        "i'm a AA female who never care nor be caught in a IR"

        you are above all a poor, hurt soul. Sad, sad statement on your part. You're all antagonism and no solution! I feel sorry for you with your attitude. It will get you nowhere and ultimately will only widen the gap between AAs and EAs. You think you're so incredibly clever when in fact you are just too blind to see.

  • another point

    You'd be surprised how many white women subscribe to Essence and Ebony. Get over yourself and stop being so stuck on petty racial stuff. Some people actually feel comfortable with black culture and can relate, then we get upset. Then we get mad when white folks misjudge us or interpret us the wrong way. It's people like you that keep petty racist stuff going. . .

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500064112 Jessica Porter

    I don't see the problem with it.

  • KIMI

    The guy in the first story is obviously just trying something new, but to the white girl this is a relationship that she is looking to cultivate seriously down the road, which probably isn't going to happen with THIS guy. There is no way he should be that uncomfortable when he's with her or he shouldn't be with her at all. A person who is comfortable dating interracially wouldn't give people looks a second thought. I know I haven't as an African American women & don't plan on it! The white girl needs to move on to someone else in this case.

  • Kris

    I really wish people would stop being so damned concerned about what other grown people are doing. I’m a black woman married to a black man. And I could not care less about what 2 strangers are doing with their lives. I can NOT wrap my brain around black women taking it PERSONALLY when they see a black man, a STRANGER, dating whoever the hell he wants to date! And WHY do we need to assume he hates himself, his Momma, black women in general, just because he’s not dating one?! Why can’t she just be the person he happened to fall in love with? WHY ARE YOU SO MAD? Sounds like a serious personal problem to me.

  • Candy

    Why should this suck? Where else is she supposed to get advice on this particular subject?

  • xquisite.dee.lyte

    @ KIM: LOL!! So true. I always find it so awkward to make eye contact with interracial (bm/ww) couples. It's like, hay I just want to acknowledge you two as human beings and be polite. But then it's like if I look at them, I don't want them they think I'm looking at them just to be "hatin" or I'm trying to size her man up. It's even more awkward when I'm all alone and I get glares back from dude's with white girls. It's like they say with their eyes "Nah nah nah nah, I'm with her and not a black girl!" I wanna be like, "Pssssh! ni99a please! Get over yourself insecure self. Love her for her, not her skin. Anyways, I got a man that love him some me! And he's black at that" Lol! Body language is a trip!! lol