Ask a Very Smart Brotha: Making Friends & Facebook Prowling

September 14th, 2011 - By madamenoire

Dear Very Smart Brotha,

I’m looking for your advice on two things; How do I make friends, and How do I keep a man’s interest?

Let me explain: I grew up in Detroit, coming from a working class family that works in the auto factories I was the first to go to college. I come from a mixed and adopted family, we have Black, White, and Latino in my family. I’m adopted, when you’re adopted your ethnic class is hard to identify but I was put in the “mixed category” of children, although I’m mixed I just so happen to be the palest light girl you have ever seen with light blonde hair and the A$$ of J-Lo. Unfortunately, given the circumstances I will never know my true origins, but Ive self-accepted this and moved on.

In Detroit it was really easy for me to make friends, black, white, Asian, Middle Eastern, etc… not a big deal. I recently moved to DC for a job, I’ve been here two years and have had the hardest time making friends with black females, I’ve tried everything from happy hours, networking events, to the club (I used to be a back-up hip hop dancer in Detroit). I’m a normal, nice, drama free person! Any advice on what I can do to make friends?

Also, When it comes to men and dating, I’m attracted to black men. I grew up with strong male role-models, who were supportive and non-intrusive so I’m very trusting of men. I also have working class midwest values, I tend to give alot in relationships. The problem I’m running into in the dating scene is, men want to date me – I have no problem’s getting dates, but that’s all men want! Men just want to casually date several women at a time. How do I get a man to go from casual dating to a relationship? I’ve been giving them 6-8 weeks of dating before I end it with them if they dont try and take it to the next level. Is this smart? And another problem I’ve ran into, is the men I’m dating tell me I’m too nice, too open, and too good to them – should I start being a little bit more bitchy? or Continue to act like myself?

Sincerely,

Sooo Confused From Detroit

Dear Sooo Confused,

You know, I always assumed that it was easier for women to make friends in a new city than it is for men. You all don’t have the same hang-ups about approaching someone of the same sex (For instance: A woman asking the new chick if she wants to hang out next weekend? Cool. A man asking the new dude if he wants to hang out next weekend? Potential E. Lynn Harris novel.), and despite the fact that we have the ultimate bonder — most American men are into at least one of the three major sports (football, basketball, baseball) — it seems like women have more things they can bond and connect over.

With that being said, I think your friend-making issues and your dating issues are somewhat related, and I imagine that one of two things are happening.

  1. If your self-description is accurate, you’re in possession of a few physical characteristics (racial ambiguousness, long hair, big butt) that make some black men go gaga, and you seem to have no trouble finding men in a city (D.C.) that’s known to have a severe imbalance of eligible black men and single black women. When you combine this with your “countryness” (I know you’re from Detroit, but to most people in D.C., anything Midwest is “country.”), it’s easy to see why black women might be slow to befriend you. I mean, you don’t invite the competition to the cookout, especially if her potato salad is better than yours.
  2. I have to say that I thought it was a bit peculiar that you were so quick to mention your physical attributes in this letter, especially when they weren’t really all that relevant. You’re obviously very proud of them, and it wouldn’t be a leap to assume that this proudness manifests as arrogance. While you do attend these happy hours and networking events, maybe women are turned off by you because your body language and demeanor says “I’m better than you broke-down D.C. bitches.”

Anyway, some people have to work harder at making friends than others, and it seems like you’re one of these people. You probably have to be a bit more proactive and gregarious and start to approach women. Take it from a man, (genuine) compliments help women let their guards down. Also, when you do approach, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to say exactly what you’ve told me “Hey, I just moved here and I’m really looking for some cool homegirls to kick it with.” Yea, it sounds cheesy, but I imagine you’d rather be forcefully awkward for a couple seconds than having to continue to roll solo to brunch every weekend.

Oh, and regarding the men you’re dating, unless “giving a lot” means that it just takes a phone call and a Red Lobster appetizer to “get the drawers,” it sounds like you’re doing the right thing. Although 6 to 8 weeks might be too short of a time — I’d extend it to 12 weeks — I do think that having a set time limit is just weeding out the pretenders. I mean, would you really want to be with a guy who would dismiss you because you’re “too nice?”

Also, I’d be remiss if I didn’t say that it’s not all “men” who want to be playas and date multiple women at a time, but the “men you happen to be dating,” Again, if all that you’re saying about yourself is true — along with being physically attractive, you have a decent job, seem to be in shape, etc — you should have no trouble finding men who want to lock you down, but maybe these aren’t the men you’re as attracted to. I’m not going to sit here and tell you who you need to be dating, but if dating a man who’s ready to commit is a priority for you, you might need to start dating different men.

Sincerely,

Damon Young (aka The Champ)

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  • sharon

    LOL….I'm sure that's exactly what happened in letter #2. And he did you a favor, move on baby girl…move on!

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  • Anna

    I know where girl #1 is coming from. Women in NYC aren't to keen to being my friend neither.

  • Victoria

    And I'll add that you know, as well as I that DC encourages comradery in the neighborhood, and "the neighborhood" sticks together, and outsiders are viewed as unwelcomed. "Outsiders" can even be viewed as the people on the next block lol. So of *Course it'll be hard for someone who wasn't even born here! Your not even "friendly" to each other lol. We are the "Chocolate City" -well *manilla now lol- …Not the "City of Brotherly Love" lol…

  • Victoria

    @ OSHH You took my post *too personally*…It wasn't even that deep miss lady, but I think only proves my point further that maybe DC women have problems being friendly lol…Anywho if *you want to take it personal so be it. I thought my post was kinda funny actually. Especially since the view is as a girl who first moved here in "other" category and eventually became a local lol. What I was talking about were the obstacles that you're put in because you are "not from here" lol. Not *ALWAYS the case. But more often than not, it'll go down just like I described lol…

    The moral to what I said was anyone & everyone from DC, black/white conservative/ghetto/and whatever else in between are VERY hesitant about making "friends" with other people who aren't from here. More so than anyone from all the states I've visited or lived in. Iol,

    And I just named the "Cordas" because it's pretty well known. It's right down the street from Chinatown, so even if you're a tourist or a local you are bound to see it, run into at some point. Anyway *I personally have never lived in the Cordas. Been through there, know people there. Never lived there. But I know people all over the city in various places – because as you know, DC is small and EVERYBODY knows EVERYBODY lol. I *have lived in these places; Washington View near Anacostia, 11th street down from Rhode Island, and Mount Vernon apts (walking distance from Chinatown). I also have lived in PG, and yes some of those girls can be fake & everything else you mentioned, BUT I feel like they're not so quick to hesitate & wonder whether they should get to know a person because they're "not from here". That's all I was saying…

    Anyway, nothing personal against DC or the people -because *I love it here- but let's not pretend like everybody in DC is friendly and happy-go-lucky. This can be one of the un-friendliest places ever for someone who isn't a local and is new. And obviously other people feel that way or else she wouldn't have asked for advice about it…

    • Victoria

      @ OSHH You took my post *too personally*…It wasn't even that deep miss lady, but I think only proves my point further that maybe DC women have -well let's just call it- a slight "mean streak"…Anywho if *you want to take it personal so be it. I thought my post was kinda funny actually. Especially since the view is as a girl who first moved here in "other" category and eventually became a local lol. What I was talking about were the obstacles that you're given lol. Not *ALWAYS the case. But more often than not, it'll go down just like I described lol…

      The moral to my paragraph is anyone & everyone from DC, black/white conservative/ghetto/and whatever else in between are VERY hesitant about making "friends" with other people who aren't from here. More so than anyone from all the states I've visited or lived in. Iol, And I just named the "Cordas" because it's pretty well known. It's right down the street from Chinatown, so even if you're a tourist or a local you are bound to see it, run into at some point. Anyway *I personally have never lived in the Cordas. Been through there, know people there. Never lived there. But I know people all over the city in various places – because as you know, DC is small and EVERYBODY knows EVERYBODY lol. I *have lived in these places; Washington View near Anacostia, 11th street down from Rhode Island, and Mount Vernon apts (walking distance from Chinatown). I also have lived in PG, and yes some of those girls can be fake & everything else you mentioned, BUT I feel like they're not so quick to hesitate & wonder whether they should get to know a person because they're "not from here".

    • OSHH

      I simply asked a question and made a statement.
      Didn't take it personally at all, but it is wise to be careful of generalizations in general, is all!

  • OSHH

    "it gets to a point in your life where you have to realize that you don't make friends, you have acquaintances"

    After you get good and fully grown you are good with one or two good peoples as friends and keeps it moving.

    Exactly on your other points, DC is an international city. as well as transient as I stated above. The number of attractive women outnumber the men here, something fierce, and that lends itself to a tension and competition type vibe, even if you just chillin LOL!!!!!! People be offended just off you entering a room LOL but then those brawds ain't the type you'd want as friends anyway.

    • OSHH

      This was in reply to Marian!

  • https://www.facebook.com/MadeMarian Marian Walton

    Born and raised in the Midwest, I completely understand where she is coming from in terms of people in D.C. In the midwest, being exotic (i.e. not appearing black or white) does get you sorta far in the social scene and maybe romantically.

    However, in D.C. you have every demographic imaginable and there are ten times more women here that are attractive and that have their stuff together. This factor coupled with a f*cked up ratio does not play in your favor either. You see, I will venture to say that for every one guy there are six thirsty women. These women will do anything to get the clout and status desired. Survival to the fittest.

    The best advice I can offer is do you and the rest will follow. Don't be scared to step out on your own, join as many social/professional networks as possible, and find a couple of cool colleagues that you can vibe with.

    Also, it gets to a point in your life where you have to realize that you don't make friends, you have acquaintances.

  • G.O.T.Y

    Yea ! That facebook scenario is funny. But I bet jack is young just like old girl. Real men ( like me ) don't have time to be on facebook chatting with five female friends everyday while having a woman at home. Come on son…

  • weethomas

    Well, the alternative to the facebook scenario is that Jack has been chatting up 5 others and three have already decided to give him the go-ahead. Realizing that while you can maintain a large number of virtual relationships but very few in person, he's decided to move on with his current three and drop the rest.

  • Fabienne

    The facebook scenario is so true!!!

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  • http://tastethethoughts.webs.com Tasty Thoughts

    *died* at the second response LOL….as for the lady in DC….she might just wanna fall back a bit…

  • MicheleT

    Oh and get a DNA test to tell where you came from! I did it and it was the best thing I could have ever done!

  • SparkleCupcake

    Great advice for that 1st chick. She was oh so quick to mention that she is LIGHT, looks MIXED and has the behind of JLO as if those attributes make her the best candidate for FRIENDSHIP or RELATIONSHIPS.

    She needs to work on loving herself, not just loving her physical attributes because she is revealing how shallow she is and no one is attracted to that be it females for friendship or males for relationships.

    Another thing if JLO & Kim K are ur booty idols then that says alot about your mindset because there are everyday sistas from the bus stop to wall street that are BUILT with a tiny waist and then booty and thighs for days.

    • I <3 Red Bones

      You sound mad

  • MicheleT

    I feel sorry for this chick. Obviously, she is a banger but women from DC just aren't that friendly any ole way. I was born and raised here and people can't get over how nice I am. I speak to everyone and hold a sincere convo with almost every sane person I meet. Just trying to show love in a crappy, rude world. A lot of guys take it as a green light, then when they can't seem to get past 1st base (I'm married any damn way) they give up. But, I refuse to change who I am. I'm just nice dammit!! Anyway, the only thing I can't recommend is for her to try to get into a drama free as possible church and start from there. I don't think she comes off arrogant, I just think insecure women can't take her beauty!

    • Jennie

      The writer has a problem with both Black women and Black men. Different reasons, but the same result. She's the problem.
      She listed her physical features like she's so beautiful she can't see why people aren't flocking to her side. Seems like her nose is so high in the air she wouldn't see a friendship or a potential relationship if it was standing in front of her.
      Bear in mind, as the new girl in town, people already have their cliques set and relationships in place. With women she'll have to be a little more proactive- join a book club, take a yoga class. With the guys, in DC straight women outnumber straight guys by a large number. Based on the numbers alone, men can afford to date a few women at a time. If you are unwilling to share and date around yourself, you are going to have show some man (a worthy man) that deserve more than part time.

      • n&h

        i dont think she seemed arrogant i think she was trying to explain that she wants to hang out with us black girls but maybe a reason she cant get in is because she looks like a white girl with a big butt and they dont think she is down. they look at her like "becky" when she feels like/is a "shaquita." thats my 2 cents i maybe wrong but she didnt come off arrogant more naive. shes has probably had the same friends since she was young and never had to venture out a make new friends and has no clue how.

        • justpassingthrough

          There are lots of "exotic" nice-looking women in DC. a lot of them are of African descent. It's not about being "mixed." She seems like she was alluding to women possibly being intimidated or jealous of her beauty. She has no problem getting dates, remember?

          I've been in the DC area for 4 years and still haven't made any new "friends" here — all acquaintances. Most of the people I really deal with for real are from college. It's def a clique-y city, and people are interested in hanging out with you unless you share similar interests (yoga, clubbing, kickball) or there is some kind of benefit to being your "friend"

  • fabienne

    The facebook scenario is so true!

  • LadyV

    The second response is dead on! LMAO
    That's exactly what happened!

    • divafab78

      Right.LOL! She should've figured that one out herself….sheesh!