I’m Just Asking: Does Tyler Perry Choosing Single Fatherhood Make Him A Hypocrite?

September 25, 2014  |  

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Tyler Perry is a perfect example of why people roll their eyes at some Christians.

Not all of you,  just the loud, pushy ones who just so happen to be the most vocal of the lot right now. Honestly, those kinds of Christians need to go sit down somewhere and reevaluate the reason why some folks are so hostile to their version of morality and values. It’s not so much the text, rituals and other observances. It’s not even some territorial religious beef with Jesus. But rather, it’s those who claim they’re Jesus’ people, and more specifically, the hypocrisy of those people. They go through all types of mental gymnastics – almost to the point of delusion – just to pretend that what they are personally doing is not contrary to much of what they preach.

For instance, that would include those holy rollers who make a big stink about what the bible says about homosexuality and then use it is as justification for why we should discriminate culturally, but then turn right around and get caught in some sort of same-sex scandal. Instead of falling on the sword of what the bible says about his or her transgressions, the oily sinner in question flips to another page in the good book and starts reminding us of the less heeded messages from the bible:

“He who is without sin cast the first stone.”

And if that doesn’t work, they throw out this: “I am a human, not God.”

Or my personal favorite: “We are all a work in progress.”

That would also include Perry, the king of single-dimension Christian dogma and ideology in film. Despite the messages he pushes in his films, he is rumored to be showing up in the public eye with an expectant baby mother on his arm pretty soon. Or she’ll at least be standing near him.

According to published reports,

Last week, Tyler Perry turned 45 and celebrated his birthday by throwing himself a star-studded birthday bash that included Stevie Wonder playing the piano. Though that was a highlight of the night, apparently, the most memorable moment came when Perry announced that he’s expecting his first child. An exclusive source who attended the party told our sister site Bossip that Perry didn’t reveal who the mother of the child is, but sources believe it’s Gelila Bekele, a 28-year-old Ethiopian model and philanthropist who openly dated Perry on and off for the past five years.

NecoleBitchie found a picture of Bekele and one of her friends on Instagram with some pretty revealing comments from the friend, which appear to confirm that she is with child. If the rumors are true, congratulations to the parents-to-be. However, one has to wonder: If this bit of intel is true, why is he not talking about marriage?

I’m asking this not because I think that since they are having a baby together they need to get married. You won’t find me co-signing any parts of the respectability doctrine here. I just think that what’s good for the goose better have been first applied to the gander before telling a bunch of geese what supposedly is right.

What I mean is that this big story makes me think of a lot of Perry’s films, which involve characters, mostly women, who are often killed, maimed or seriously punished in some way for their malfeasance, which went against cultural and often religious expectations of them. In Why Did I Get Married Too?, the punishment for being cold and unyielding Patricia (played by Janet Jackson) was lifelong guilt and blame over her soon-to-be ex-husband, who gets hit by a truck and is killed moments after they get into an argument at his job. In The Family That Preys, a cold-blooded career woman is slapped across a table before being banished to a lifetime of loneliness and financial struggle for her betrayal against her husband. And in Temptation: Confessions of a Marriage Counselor, which was the biggest sl*t-shaming film of all time, the main character develops some sort of new version of HIV, which comes with a limp and causes her to age completely different than others (oh wait, that might have just been bad makeup and wigs), for cheating on her husband. I’ve heard of “the clap” and “the package,” but seriously Perry? What’s with “the limp”?

Perry’s active imagination aside, it’s clear that at least in terms of storytelling, he feels that there are definite rules and a moral code that women should aim to follow – or else. Hell, you can say that many of his films promote a very clear definition of what a Christian family is supposed to be. Even the characters in broken families in his films are always aspiring to regain some sort of respectability, particularly around marriage (There are way too many of his films to list, which tie a woman’s ability to get married or not to whether or not she will be able to fix her problems). And as noted in this archived article from The Grio, even his black male characters fall into two categories of “the righteous and the evil.”

And yet, his personal life differs. He’s in his 40s and has never been married. And according to this article from a couple of years ago, marriage – despite its importance in both contemporary and traditional Christianity – is not even being considered as a serious option for him. In fact, he told Steve Harvey, “I don’t know about marriage as much as I do know that I’d be a great father.” How is that even an option even without the dogma? Wait, wait, wait. I said I was not going to respectability-shame anybody…

But this isn’t only about Perry. Quite honestly, I don’t care how many children he has out of wedlock – just as long as he pays for them and I don’t have to read a headline on Bossip about one of the mothers pulling a silly stunt just to get support. Rather, this is about his legion of fans who worship at the throne of Perry’s ideology and claim it as a voice missing or ignored by the mainstream media. The fans who soak this stuff up as entertainment and help to propel it to the top of the box offices. The fans who don’t just stop at it simply being entertainment and instead, use it to then go and shame and guilt some women (and even men) for some life decisions that they think are unbecoming of a child of God.

I have a question for you fans: Suppose the rumors are true that Perry is intentionally going into single fatherhood. Does this make him a bad Christian, or nah?

I’m just asking.

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  • Martin

    Oh brother. Yes he’s gay. He had to go back into the closet because the Black mainstream community is largely homophobic. It’s sad but he’s not the only black celebrity who is gay and in hiding. It’s a shame people can’t be themselves in the world with so many psychotic antigay people out there.

  • Sveet Vred

    to your question, no. but this article sounds like you are throwing the same old hash out on the table…mainly nonbelievers pointing to the hypocrisy of people of faith as some sort of deterrent to their own personal conversion. these types of people are just looking for excuses. furthermore, all christians are ‘bad’. we (calling myself a christian) are no different than non christians, at least from a godly perspective….sinners. and christians are still sinners, and will continue to sin. it’s just that overpowering sinful desire of pride that we ALL struggle with, even after a confession and acceptance of jesus as savior. that’s the somewhat easy part. i don’t get why people have such a difficult time with acknowledging they are an offense to god. but here’s the tough part. to claim jesus as lord requires much more self sacrifice, obedience and discipline. mr. perry is no different than others. bible lesson of the day. jesus as ‘savior’…the easy part. jesus as ‘lord’…incredibly difficult, and one must ask for god’s help on a daily basis to succeed. shalom!

  • David Busby

    To criticize his actions/decisions would be hypocritical on the part of the critics; true Christianity is recognizing the fragile human nature and understanding why we NEED Christ. If there are “worshippers” at his (Perry’s) throne, they should abandon idolatry and worship JESUS.

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  • Time to pray

    The devil is so masterful at putting people in the spot light that may or may not be real Christians. This individual is revered by many unsuspecting Christian followers who will do one of two things as a result of his actions. They will use Tyler Perry’s decision to fornicate as an excuse for their sins, causing many to stumble or perhaps his actions may cause many to turn away from the gospel of Jesus Christ. Lord have mercy!!!!

  • Sylvia

    I think that this article was stupid and it sounds like someone who have something against Tyler Perry. Yes, we all fall down, but the good thing is we know how to get back up. Through Jesus all things are possible. God is good!. Are we suppose to judge each other? I think not! Let God be the one who do the judging on Tyler. No one knows the situation about the baby, but you have jump to your conclusion. Is it better to get marry when you are not ready for it or be there for your child after it is born? Tyler keep on serving God and doing the will of the Father. We do not know the whole situation, but God knows. You will an awesome father.

  • Guest Reader

    She better not ask Marvin Winans to dedicate the baby! IJS!!! LOL!!!

  • brownsugar

    leave perry alone if one person this page is perfect you need to give your secret to all of us im just saying.

  • brownsugar

    he without sin cass the first stone

  • TheOne

    Ugggghhhh… nothing better to talk about than a man wanting a child and having one! Its 2014 people, get over it. Yes, his movies are Christian based but just as he came for the women heads he’s come for the males as well…some movies both at the same time. And again its a movie, didnt anyone say “live by this or else”. Yes he is human and I don’t think he has ever come out to judge anyone! Are you perfect, doubt it! Perry has a gift/ talent for telling a story that many people are going through or have been through it; some may be exaggerated to get the plot across bc ummm its a movie! Smh Congrats to the parents to be…no matter how it happened!

  • disappointedchristian

    It’s very disappointing to me as woman. When I accepted Christ, I was the mother of 3 with three different fathers and was living with a man. I was convicted of the lifestyle I was living. I put the man out that I was living with and began to live my life as Christian woman with new values. I later married and my husband raised my children as his own. We have been married for 18 years now. When Mr. Perry came on the scene, I was very supportive of him. But as I begin to see his decline in what he was preaching, I lost respect for him. God is not going to change for any man. I was afraid that Hollywood would get to Mr. Perry. The same people that wouldn’t let you say Jesus in your shows are now the same people that have you taking his name in vain (i.e. Alex Cross). Yes, he is a hypocrite and he needs to set it right with the people who supported him. The enemy will keep moving the marker on you and before you know it you will have went further than you ever thought you would. Mr. Perry turn and come back all it takes is a repentant heart.

  • Run Coltrane

    and there you have it….money can buy you respectability. Especially in the church. Remember the Donald Sterling incident? What’s the first thing that happened? Stories about how he was NAACP Man of the Year. You know he paid for it

  • Lola Monroe

    In the movie, the limp came from her being beaten. I feel Tyler is some what hypocritical, but it’s not that serious…..

  • PleaseCallSecurity

    most men have standards for women that they feel don’t apply to them. This is one reason why I feel they are the weaker sex, but then again, majority lets them get away with that bullshit.

  • Butterfly

    I feel he can pretty much live the way he wants to. He writes entertaining fictional stories. Whose to say he has to be like his movies. If you’re watching his movies to model after then there is something definitely wrong. We aren’t to follow him he’s not Jesus what he says is not written in stone. I think it’s dumb to even pose this question. People think for yourselves don’t leave it up to actors and don’t be shocked when they are not the same character as they are in real life real time in the here and now.

  • missmack

    It makes him a hypocrite. It could mean he’s in the closet or that he pushes organized religion to people for alternate reasons other than his own belief system. It could mean a lot of things. I’d call him and ask him. lol

  • sha

    Why are we so concerned about his salvation, faith, christiantity, etc., we can only answer for our own?!!!! I’d like to see the look on God’s face when your turned away and then say but remember Tyler Lord he wasnt right with his walk, what about him…..exactly!!!! Regardless of his personal life, his movies serve a certain purpose within a certain genre. So now when you go to church on Sunday are you going to uphold your pastor to every sin they commit with respect to them preachign the gospel to you? Sure his actions may be hypocritical, however, he is in the entertainment business not preaching. Why expect so much from him regardless of what comes out of his mouth? We want leaders, role models, etc. and put so much energy into tearing them apart. His works have done no harm so I have a hard time with what the issue is with this man other than people’s opinion of his personal ife., OH well, another crab trying to get out and we just keep snatching that a$$ back as we do!

  • MM

    I totally see your point. At the same time, your point implies that Tyler Perry’s movies are dogma and that he lives by those values. Isn’t it possible he’s just selling movies?

  • Lisa Durden

    Don’t kick Tyler Perry’s back in for being a branding genius!! Any GROWN person who watches Tyler Perry movies or any directors movies, listens to rappers/ lyrics and preachers preaching and REALLY believes the messages are autobiographical, is an idiot!! None of those people, with the exception of preachers, asks you to believe that their art imitates their life!! And even if they did ask, only a fool would buy it. WE NEVER KNOW ANYONE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT IN THE HOUSE WITH THEM. Which is where the TRUE “them” lives.

  • Al Sheda

    I’M NOT FULLY UNDERSTANDING HIS OPPOSITIONS FROM THE ‘CHRISTIAN’ VIEW POINT! WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO TAKE A SHOT AT IT, TO HELP ME COMPREHEND THIS?

    • disappointedchristian

      Tyler Perry presented himself as Christian man who God catapulted to the limelight because of his faith. Now he is doing the same thing that every other nonbeliever is doing. (short version)

  • Zina K

    Very good article and great post Angie Martinez.

  • Wanda Jewett

    THIS IS THIS MAN BUSINESS!! SOON AS YOU TELL PEOPLE GOOD NEWS THEY HAVE SOMETHING NEGATIVE THEY DON’T NEED TO GET MARRIED!!!!!!

  • Annett Marie Richardson

    You never know. It could be an agreement between the two. She could be a surrogate, per se. In all the years he has been alone, he probably woke up and realized that he had no one whom he could trust to leave his worldly possessions to. I doubt Perry is in an actual exclusive relationship with the mother. It would not be the first time that two people decided to do something of this caliber. The female who is pregnant will never need to work again. I can see him arranging that. Oh well.

  • Sandra Scott

    U go Mr Perry Ur Baby Momma is Beautiful ..that’s gonna be a very lucky child..hope it’s a girl that will look like her gorgeous mommy..but Blessed and Healthy!!!

  • Juanita Gamble

    This is the dumbest article I have ever read, Ms Ball. You obviously needed an attention-grabbing headline and chose Tyler Perry rather than address an important or critical issue. Why don’t you use your platform more wisely? Just askin’ ……

  • Judith

    Tyler Perry has to answer to God. Yes we can point out his sins but in 1 Timothy 5 chapter ” we should learn to mine our business and not dwell on others and what is going with them unless they need our help.

  • MissMarcie

    Tyler Perry is not perfect and he has the right to be happy like everyone else. If we really want to get deep and spiritual about it, the Bible teaches about sex before marriage not specifically about having a baby out of wedlock . A baby is the result of sex before marriage. Why is it that people tend to focus more on having babies out of wedlock but not the act of sex itself? So if anything he is like the rest of us who are wrong and falling short of the Glory of holiness.

  • Dallas Ruffin

    It does indeed make him a bad Christian, and yet another hypocrite. I am sad over this. I’ve lost respect for him. It’s one thing to slip up – it’s another to purposefully choose that route and then be proud of it.

    • CaribbeanGlow

      It seems like some think they get a pass… because it’s them. Not just him or because he is famous; I think many a fake Christian feel this way.

    • disappointedchristian

      I am very saddened by this as well. If he would only realize that he has allowed the enemy to make him loose face as a Christian. It is not about him which is what he knew in the beginning. Somewhere along the line it became about him instead of God. That is what Hollywood wanted to show. See he was all high and mighty, look at him now, we converted him. SMH

  • MaxedT12

    Ms Bal, l Where were you when Brad & Angelina spent nearly a decade of fine charitable work but never taking tme out to get married. Despite having multiple babies. Or is your self appointed righteousness only reserved for Black people!

  • MaxedT12

    There are ten commandments. How many of you have not violated at least one? None of them indicate humans must get married in order to make babies!

  • Guest

    There are ten commandments. How of you have not violated at least one? None of them indicate humans must get married in order to make babies!

  • the realist

    Why is this even news, is he the first producer of films to have a baby with out marriage,this is the norm in holly wood, I would seriously doubt any one who takes a fictional film( and that is what he does make believe) and pattern their life behind it or expect the producer to be like the movie he made.Is Stephen Spielberg a bad person cause he made Pet Cemetery,where the dead came back to life all christians know this happened only once when Lazarus was brought back from the dead,any sane person know that’s not possible in this day and time,it’s a movie people.He can live his life any way he wants,just like we do. he can profess his beliefs any way he wants,he does not need the approval of we the people. No one else in hollywood does, why is he different,His career is making believe,he does a very good job of doing that,I would never be dissapointed in anything he does in his personal life, he’s not related to me, he does not hold a political office that could be determent to my way of life,and I don’t know him personaly. All movie makers make money off real life situations and expectations,nothing new, so again why is he different,What sane person, would expect Tyler Perry to be the same as their father ,brother,or nephew and you don’t know him and never met him a day in their life and odds are you never will, the only thing we know about him and all the other film makers is what we read,see on TV,or what they put out by thier publicist.I know he is laughing all the way to the bank for all of this free publicity.His next movie will blast off the charts, just like his T V sitcoms are doing right now.

  • Terri Wilson Anderson

    He was raised by a single mother, who he was very close to. Don’t know if he ever knew his father or not. I feel sure that is why he would try to be the best father he could. But, doesn’t it say in the Bible, for the father to love the mother of his children. Also, in the Bible, you are supposed to marry before bringing children into the world. So, if he is the Christian, he says he is, shouldn’t he want to marry the mother of his children? I know, no one is perfect, and accidents do happen. However, when they do you should do the Christian thing, if you are a Christian.

  • black_dontcrack

    It doesn’t make him a bad Christian, it makes him human. Something his fans need to learn, and something he evidently needs to embrace – because all humans at some point fall short of the glory. Tyler is about to be tested, and I’m curious to see how he’ll come out on the other end. And I must say that I’m surprised that any woman would conceive with him, because I too see what you see in his movies, and it doesn’t seem to me he likes women very much.

  • Fred C. Rochester

    Sure.

    Let’s all fornicate.

    God don’t mind.

    In fact, Jesus don’t mind either. In fact, His blood and Body doesn’t mind.

    Go ahead and sin.

    God really doesn’t mind at all. He’s looking the other way. He wants us to be happy. He wants us to commit sexual immorality.

    This is what makes Him delirious. God smiles when we sin against Him.

    Put our rocks away. Let’s be socially correct and throw the Bible in the trash. God is not watching. He loves sin and the devil.

    Righteousness and holiness is a thing of the past. Jesus is coming back for a church with spots and wrinkles.

    Go ahead and sin till your heart’s content.

    But before you do, read Revelation 21:8.

  • Rory

    Look Tyler Perry Did not make a mistake.He know just what he’s doing.He just decided to do a Micheal Jackson.It much easier for him to order a child with his dna then get in a relationship and get takin for everything he’s worth. Now look at her compaired to some of the women he has on his shows.Do you really think He couldnt find a woman in America.He also pulled a page from Ophra why marry..the child will have a mother and a father and will be taken care of.He’s also has this old saying for the ones having a problem with what ever..What you eat don’t make him shi!.

  • NIKKI123TONY

    I think Tyler Perry is Awesome! And I don’t know the reason why they are not married, maybe they will, maybe not. I’m a Christian too. We all make mistakes. I’m going to pray for a Good outcome for the couple and their baby to be.

  • Donna Marie Griffith

    At the end of the day, All of us must go before God for our transgressions. Tyler well knows what his will be. We ALL live in glass houses!!!!
    PRAISE GOD!!!!

  • Miss Marcie

    Tyler Perry should not be criticized for having a baby out of wed lock. People (especially religious folks) often express how it is frowned upon and against God’s word to have a baby out of wedlock but what is against God’s word is sex before marriage. A baby is just the result of sex. With this being said that means 90% of us humans (except kids and babies) are guilty of premarital sex that also includes the author of this post.

  • Bing

    How does answering this question help you?

  • squashing all rumors

    Everybody in the world not just him have had a child and was not married so REALLY people get a grip I am sure there is some things going on in your life that is not correct… so stop the madness…LET WHO HAS NOT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE…Whether you feel it is not right and is not setting a good example…WHO THE HELL SAID HE WAS TO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR YOU???.. HE IS JUST LIVING HIS LIFE…AND DAMN GOOD I MIGHT ADD…HOW YOU LIVING????? in the words of Tamar Braxton… GET YOU LIFE!!!!

  • squashing all rumors

    JUST BE HAPPY FOR HIM DAMN….

  • Mary O

    I am very sad that Tyler Perry who knows the truth has set this example. For me it makes me feel the messages is, it’s ok to be a sinner and still follow God. Jesus did say to the er of the woman caught in adultery, “Where are your accusers?” They had left because they weren’t without sin. He also said to her “go and sin no more” Only God knows about the relationship he has with Him. Even Paul was refused healing when He asked God for a miracle. God told him, His grace was sufficient for him. Maybe given his past, this maybe sexual sin is the cross he has to bear. Maybe I just wrote a stupid statement. We are to go forth and sin no more. We are also called to let God be our judge. I pray this event doesn’t equate to sex outside of marriage is ok for new Christians. What do you think, should TP make a statement to this fact?

  • generic name

    well marriage to a women is clearly NOT an option for him. I’m glad he found a surrogate to carry his kid, sad that he going to pretend that he is straight or that it’s his “girlfriend’s”. As much as he is fraud, the true fools are the people that let him make a buck off of promoting some sick “christian” women hating dogma as good family entertainment.

    • squashing all rumors

      TYLER PERRY IS NOT GAY!!!! STOP IT PEOPLE….. He is not gay nor has he ever been gay just because he has been through so much in his life …. being molested by men and WOMEN let us not forget that how does that constitute to him being gay… both sides misused him so what we now are going to say he is a lover of animals come on now let the gay rumors die this man is straight and love women and he has made his choice JUST BE HAPPY FOR HIM whatever his decision afterwards…in the end a beautiful baby is about to be brought into this world someone he can now leave all that he has work for

  • Vee

    I am very disappointed with this announcement. He is no different then what he does not believe in “he says”. Please dont tell me it was a heated passion. She is tooo old not to be on birth control ..so he got caught. Until he dies or she dies, they will be connected 4 life….

    • CarlaKah

      I am very disappointed in your conclusion. Like there is ONLY one in a couple that is responsible for avoiding pregnancy: the woman. 1 in 2 pregnancies is unplanned, a man an woman are needed for impregnation hut somehow your misogynistic butt want to put blame on the woman. Disgusting, iutdated

    • black_dontcrack

      What century are you from? Here’s the deal. If Tyler didn’t want to have a baby he should have practiced birth control. Sick and tired of hearing about how men get “caught.”

  • Isatu Milton Sandblom

    As a “Christian” the issue of his sin is a moot point because as Christians ALL of our sins have been forgiven. Our past present and future transgressions have been paid for with the blood of Christ. However the EXAMPLE he has set (through his movies and speech) as a man of God, and as a man that is looked upon as a leader in the Christian community is highly hypocritical. He comes off as another hypocritical bible thumper. This is why people roll their eyes at Christianity. Our leaders only talk the talk…. never walk the walk.

  • squahing all rumors

    sorry to bust yall bubble but the baby mama is Gelila Bekele he confirmed it at the opening that he and her are excited about having a baby here is the quote: By JOHN CARUCCIAssociated Press

    NEW YORK (AP) – Tyler Perry confirms he’s going to be a dad.

    Rumors have circulated that the 45-year-old Perry and girlfriend, Gelila Bekele, were expecting a child. But Perry had not made a public statement.

    When asked about the prospects Friday at the opening night of the New York Film Festival, Perry responded cheerfully.

    “Good, good. We’re good. Very happy. She’s excited, I’m excited so we’re very happy,” Perry told The Associated Press.

    Perry was walking the red carpet for his latest film, “Gone Girl,” based on the best-selling novel.

    Directed by David Fincher, the film also stars Ben Affleck, Neil Patrick Harris and Rosamund Pike.

  • Marianne

    seems to me he’s gotten more and more worldly. His last film, single moms – something… is a far cry from the moral present in his earlier movies. In fact, that movie was not even good.. just another movie from Hollywood that you forget as soon as you’ve seen it. Rather, you want to forget because it it’s just more sleaze moral… I used to like him so much.. but it appears hanging out with the likes of Oprah and other new agers has gotten him to be a far away from what the Christian walk is about. Why on earth is he not married if he’s gonna have a baby? and is this girl half his age too? Seriously… this is sad…

    • CaribbeanGlow

      Amen, and I too didn’t know she was that young… She looks older but is beautiful. Guess he never found a black American woman he liked. :/ Tyler is pretty typical after all. Or at least he wants to appear typical. 😉

  • Baxter Ptrysha

    oprah, told him to get a beard, like Steadman.

  • At the end of the day…it’s Tyler’s life as to whether or not he wants to get married or not in order to have a family!!! There are plenty of “Christians” who are good hard working parents, & guess what… THEY DON’T HAVE A WEDDING RING!!! That’s between Tyler Perry & the God her serves!!!

  • Dee

    Who said that he was a Christian,and who said that he had sex? It’s been done other ways.

  • Michelle Dixon

    Who is to say the pregnancy isn’t in vitro? We’re just assuming he had sex. Then the messages you got from his movies are totally misconstrued. As much as I don’t really like Tyler Perry’s movies I have watched some of them and the messages are about not giving up no matter what you go through. Yes they address karma but that’s not just a christian thing. So many people look for a reason to tear people down and this article is obviously one of them….

  • Michelle Dixon

    Who is to say the pregnancy isn’t in vitro? We’re just assuming he had sex. Then the messages you got from his movies are totally misconstrued. As much as I don’t really like Tyler Perry’s movies I have watched some of them and the messages are about not giving up no matter what you go through. Yes they address karma but that’s not just a christian thing. So many peope look for a reason to tear people down and this article is obviously one of them.

  • Sarah

    Until I know more of the facts I will withold judgement. At this point I’m just diappointed, I exptected more I guess from someone who preached in his movies through his characters about withholding themselves until marriage. Maybe he did that and did not do it the old-fashioned way, but it’ll eventually be revealed.

  • not a sheep

    who cares tho…

  • Nick

    Wow..imagine the scrutiny when he finally comes out. JS

  • Charma

    Read all of Romans for context but

    Romans 2 1-2 Those people are on a dark spiral downward. But if you think that leaves you on the high ground where you can point your finger at others, think again. Every time you criticize someone, you condemn yourself. It takes one to know one. Judgmental criticism of others is a well-known way of escaping detection in your own crimes and misdemeanors. But God isn’t so easily diverted. He sees right through all such smoke screens and holds you to what you’ve done.

  • KourageousTigerII’s

    To each his own, Tyler Perry is not my Savior and I do NOT live for him. I don’t put anything past anyone because we all are human. Tyler is NOT perfect because he is a Christian, if you condemn him, then you must condemn you Pastor’s. Not saying that he was right, but I don’t live for him, and I’m surely not going to die for him.

  • CeCe Says Ugonlearntaday

    Man listen, I have only ever watched one T. Perry movie, The family that preys. Other than that I’m good with all his hoopla. Solid with his movies and his life….

  • Mslea

    Why are people so judgemental towards celebrities? They’re no different than you and I, they just have more money. Somebody is always talking about something.
    That’s his business if he wants to have a child married or not. You’re not his God!
    Furthermore people are holding these celebrities up like they are Gods (which the are not). Know your own self worth concentrate on yourself and your own life.
    Then you won’t have time to bring down others, celebrities or not!

    • Guest

      girl, hush

  • Meandmybish

    Would you guys be as upset if he had adopted this child as a single man instead of creating it?

  • Kemba

    Do we know for sure they had sex? Do we know for sure she wasn’t artificially inseminated?

  • Ash

    Everyone who says their a Christian is not always telling the truth, while others make really bad decisions just like the rest of us.

  • WHY

    Before we even try to judge Tyler Perry, let us look at the black church/christians. Do most of them wait until marriage to have sex, to have child, or to have a family? Do most of them actually practice what the good book says? No. In fact, they practice/preach certain things that fit or benefit them while disregarding others that doesn’t. I can’t take majority of these so called christians seriously when they are the BIGGEST hypocrites. But then again, this is the same religion that Perry follows. Go figure.

  • Cheryl Robinson

    I think that maybe he is choosing not to marry because she is pregnant. It makes sense to me. The main issue should be that he is not practicing safe sex.

  • Alexious Johnson

    “What’s good for the goose” by bobby rush is one of my favorite songs….lol stopped reading after that point….
    I pay Tyler Perry no mind. ..can’t stomach his movies/tv shows. ..Was more concerned with ms.gelila. …hope the baby is healthy and we’ll cared for by its parents…tis all

  • Only God can judge

    Wow! Judge not, that ye be not judge. If she is pregnant whose to say that he didn’t do the MJ way. Medically or the natural way. Nevertheless many have been waiting for Tyler Perry to make a mistake. And it seem the writer of this column has.

  • Tiney

    The writer of this article seems like an “I’m unhappy with my life, so I’ll do whatever I can to drag someone else’s through the mud”-straight-hater. She calls Tyler Perry a hypocrite for, God-forbid, making a mistake in life, yet she does the very thing that she claims Christians do to others — put people down because they don’t measure up to her unrealistic expectation of perfection. Sounds like you are the hypocrite here, Ms. Charie, not Tyler Perry. This is poor, highly-biased journalism, which is sad because she actually seems to be a good writer. Perhaps, using her gift to encourage and uplift people — and bring people up instead of pulling people down is a better use of your gift. Or perhaps pick on a celebrity who goes out of their way to harm their community like Lil Wayne or Too Short, and pick on somebody your own size. At least TP does try to place positive messages in his films. Sorry, if that’s not enough for you. #disappointed

  • Real Talk

    I’m just surprised and suspicious that he impregnated a woman

  • Denise Carrera

    Clearly, we DO know how he dates…he has pre-marital sex, aka, FORNICATES! Everyone always has to say, “don’t judge” or “he’s only human”…blah, blah, blah!

    It’s true, we have ALL sinned and fallen short, however, when the Lord gives someone a platform to represent the NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME, the Name of Jesus, this scripture applies;
    For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required; and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. Luke 12:48

    As far as “judging” goes, that means to pass sentence and that is not our place. He is under Grace just like the rest of us. But CORRECTION…YES!!! People need to read the Word and not just rattle off a few scriptures out of context! This is for those of you who think this is judging.

    Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose, and action),

    17 So that the man of God may be complete and proficient, well fitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17

    I charge [you] in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, Who is to judge the living and the dead, and by (in the light of) His coming and His kingdom:
    2 Herald and preach the Word! Keep your sense of urgency [stand by, be at hand and ready], whether the opportunity seems to be favorable or unfavorable. [Whether it is convenient or inconvenient, whether it is welcome or unwelcome, you as preacher of the Word are to show people in what way their lives are wrong.] And convince them, REBUKING and CORRECTING, WARNING and urging and encouraging them, being unflagging and inexhaustible in patience and teaching.
    3 For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate (endure) sound and wholesome instruction, but, having ears itching [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number, chosen to satisfy their own liking and to foster the errors they hold,

    4 And will turn aside from hearing the truth and wander off into myths and man-made fictions. 2 Timothy 4:1-4

    It’s called CORRECTION, DISCIPLINE. The Lord disciplines those He loves and the Church has a responsibility to do the same. Just own your sin and repent! Stop being a hypocrite and admit your struggles. Those you deceive you will be held accountable for.

    The Bible says as Christians, we are to be set apart;
    But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 1 Peter 2:9

    To be set apart is to be DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD, NOT BLENDING IN! We are not to be doing the same as the non-Believers. We are held accountable to a higher standard!

    We are to “present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.” Romans 12:1

    Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own! 1 Corinthians 6:19

    But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires. Romans 13:14

    Since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:16

    But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh Galations 5:16

    So I hope that Mr. Perry seek the Lord on how to handle his public mess. He’s been doing things in private that the Lord ALLOWED TO COME TO LIGHT! Think of that church. The word is clear on this.
    But if you fail to do this, you will be sinning against the LORD; and you may be sure that your sin will find you out. Numbers 32:23

    The Church must stop looking like the rest of the World. What makes us different is our way of living because the Most Holy God dwells within us. We must stop grieving the Holy Spirit, allowing the enemy to come in and kill, steal and destroy all that God has for us.

    • Lisa

      It’s interesting how ppl do everything BUT READ THE BIBLE AND WHAT HIS WORD SAYS it is clear, it’s not hard to understand JUST READ and you will have your answer to the questions don’t listen to other ppl That is why his word is there READ!!!!

  • GymJunkie43

    I think that’s the problem nowadays in the black community: people take religion and use it as a crutch to justify their life choices and condemn someone elses.

  • Welton Corey Sr.

    I believe he’s gay and wants a child not marriage to a woman. As for all of his religious posturing its just that, posturing.

  • James Thomas

    As much as I try to support ANY black person. Trying to succeed in something like Entertainment industry. I have never liked Tyler Perry, mainly because of the Madea character. But also he always have such crazy black people in his films. As far as him having a child out of marriage, all I can say is the only reason that Im surprised is that I thought he was gay… not because I thought he was some spiritual leader

  • Bell, H

    Why should Mr. Perry jump into marriage if his heart and spirit. Is not Ready for that commitment? Why are mist of the article On this site always citing the negative. Being a Good father is far more important than being a husband to a wife .Don’t we have enough dysfunctional, angry celebrity couples who bash each other and end you in divorce….. If God has grant him the blessings of becoming a father then Good for him…. There are many Non African American couples having children and not getting married, however they are not being crucified by their own in the media or print…….Write more informative articles that can help our young men complete School, go On to College and become successful…… Provide information about scholarships, job fairs, healthcare….. This are the things that plague our communities, not Tyler Perry having a baby…

  • I agree with you. The Marriage Counselor was horrible. If you cheat on your husband you get HIV or are deserving of domestic abuse. Any woman in his movies that aren’t completely virtuous get some sort of Biblical plague put upon them.

  • Linda M McCuff

    These criticisms are all just ridiculous, people are acting like he’s Rev.Tyler Perry, well he’s not and he never said that he was. Tyler Perry made a strong profession concerning his faith in God, and now people are trying to use that against him. That is so very hypocritical, because God has had to forgive all of us for one thing or another. This kind man fell into sin obviously, but God is not short on his love for him nor his capacity to forgive. Neither has the blood of Jesus lost its power to wash away sin. 1John 1:9 If we confess our sin, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Out of this situation Tyler Perry will have a heir. So while everyone seems to be taking pleasure in trying to drag him through the mud, God has forgiven and blessed him. I love him and pray that the Lord continues to bless him and gives him peace.

    • frances

      The only reason anyone is criticizing him is because he comes down on single mothers in his movies. Otherwise, most of us couldn’t care less what he does. I definitely don’t care whether he wants to be married or not, but then he needs to lay off single mothers going forward. I personally have never been able to relate to the characters portrayed in his movies, especially the Medea character. As far as being a spiritual leader, I don’t see him as that either. The main reason I don’t is that I cannot relate to anyone with such narrow, sexist views about women.

      • Linda M McCuff

        Hi Frances, I personally don’t relate to the Characters in the movies that our Brother makes, but I am entertained by them all. I’m not sure that he’s coming down on single women, but you have to admit that in the light that is shone on the issue, being a single mother has is plagued with a great deal of avoidable consequences. Child rearing is challenging for a couple, but is clearly difficult for a single parent. But what he does accomplish is lifting the stigma of shame that is associated with having children out of wedlock. By reminding women that God is a forgiving and benevolent Father and if you put your trust in him, he’ll partner with you and fix our broken situations. Now I realize that we all gleam something different, but that’s my take on the movies that he makes. I think that he’s a great man that has a powerful testimony of the greatness of God in his life.

        • frances

          Well, he’s going to be a single father unless he marries, and he has a substantial income. There are also single mothers with substantial incomes who aren’t impacted by hardships the way poor and working-class single mothers are. I don’t need Tyler Perry or anyone else to remind me to trust in God, and he definitely DOES come down on single mothers by invariably portraying them as damsels in distress that only a relationship with a “good man” can remedy. His characters are formulaic and one-dimensional, which is why after a while his stuff becomes boring. There are not only single mothers out here who make good money, but there are others who have support systems with families and/or friends, which also helps them weather single parenthood. To me, it doesn’t matter how religious he is, and it’s obvious that God has blessed him. It’s just that like I said in an earlier post, his work is tiresome and offputting to me because his themes are repetitive and lacking in imagination.

        • frances

          I’m fully aware of how challenging it can be, but I can’t get with his regressive views on women and how in his movies, they are always redeemed from intolerable situations by a “good man.” He DOES come down on single women because he invariably portrays them as being victimized in some way. While an economically and emotionally stable two-parent family is optimal, it would be dishonest to say that all single-parent families are monolithic. There are those in which the mothers are poor and set adrift with no supporting network, while other poor or working class mothers have a supporting network that may or may not be family. Then there are those women with well-paying jobs whose income insulates them from the worst disadvantages of single motherhood. My point is that his characters are one-dimensional, and after a while, the same formulas become boring no matter how entertaining they might have originally been.

          • Linda M McCuff

            In all honesty single women rearing children are societies most vulnerable for obvious reasons. And it’s easy to see why many see them as victims. I don’t think that it’s his purpose to be malicious, but he tells his stories from his point of view. But I get your point.

            • frances

              You do know there are also single mothers who are divorced or widowed, don’t you? Besides, single mothers are not monolithic in their incomes, education, or the amount of familial support they get. I don’t think he’s malicious, but his views of women are narrow and backward. That’s the problem I have with some ultra-religious folks like him. In addition to his narrow views of single women, he portrays financial successful folks, especially women, in a negative light and the good men who rescue his damsels in distress are always working class men–as if one’s socioeconomic status determines his or her character.

              • Linda M. McCuff

                You do know of course that we are not talking about single mothers with support systems in place. Women who are divorced or widowed, and are working with strong family ties don’t fall in to the same category as the ones with limited education or those who are under employed. No they are not at all helpless. And please stop using the word monolithic, it means mountain like or monument and nothing in any of our lives are unmovable, life itself is enveloped with uncertainty. I believe that a woman’s position in life could be stronger if she made better choices concerning her personal and social decisions. I’m talking about the God given use of common sense regarding making the best possible choice when choosing a life/sexual partner and family planning. I don’t believe that his views are narrow, but again this is all from his point of view.

                • frances

                  Well, I am, because it’s useless to discuss the issue of single mothers without acknowledging that they are far from being monolithic. Just so you know, monolithic means that everyone in a group is exactly alike with no exceptions. The single women that Tyler Perry portrays in his works are monolithic (uniform) in the sense that they are always damsels in distress who can only be redeemed by the love of a “good man.” So, yes, his views are narrow. While I agree with you that there are women who need to make better choices so that they don’t end up economically adrift, I can’t relate to someone whose views on single women or women in general are so limited. One does not have to be divorced or widowed to have a family support system,nor does being divorced or widowed guarantee that one will have that a support system of any type. Again, the circumstances of how women came to be single mothers and their circumstances going forward vary widely. Yes, it IS his point of view, and that is why a lot of folks who previously liked his works have turned away from them because of his simplistic, moralizing themes. Human beings are complex, not the cardboard characters of his movies.

    • Christine

      “Reverend Tyler Perry”? Really? Where in the Bible does it say that those of who follow Christ are allowed to be less dedicated than the clergy? Where? If Christ had one single death on the cross to forgive all sins equally, then don’t you think he would also have the same expectations from all of us? You saying that TP gets a pass because he’s not a clergyman is like saying that us “regular” Christians are allowed to sin more than the leaders of the Church. And that is a deception. – I have no judgement for Tyler Perry because it is not my place; I’m not his maker. But we know that based on what the Bible says God does not approve of his premarital sexual relations, whether or not it led to the creation of “an heir”. That’s not God’s plan for us. It doesn’t mean that God loves him any less or that He doesn’t forgive him, however, have you asked yourself whether TP even believes he’s done anything wrong in this situation? Clearly he has the view that sex is OK before marriage, meanwhile the Bible tells us clearly that it is not.

      • Linda M. McCuff

        Never, God requires us all to walk up right before him. But if we fall we have a advocate withe the father. 1John 1:9 says if we confess our sin, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. But that’s my point he’s forgiven, and people should consider their own lives and pray for him.

  • Christine

    I am a born-again Christian, and I completely agree with the author of this article. We have to do better Christian people, the world has a low view of us. And we deserve it too.

    • Hope Floats

      The world has had a low view of us since Jesus was born to Mary and Joseph. And they always will…

      • Christine

        I know that; the Bible tells us that the world hates God and us for serving God… No surprise. That doesn’t mean though that we’re supposed to do a crappy job at it, just because we’re looked down upon by most people. This is a part of “carry your cross” to follow Him. Jesus says that we’re the light and the salt and that we will become useless if we lose our saltiness. It means that if you’re going to be a Christian, great, but be fervent and be faithful.

        • Hope Floats

          Amen.

  • guess

    If we think how babies are created that is natural, we’re not thinking he is adopting or in vitro or what ever way. The natural is going to be with a man and a woman. So naturally as a believer just like anybody he has fallen. He is 45 years old, that is not a mistake if it is naturally conceived. This is willful sin, not I made a mistake. You know you have unprotected sex you will get pregnant. What is wrong with I am going to adopt a child or I decided to have a child but not the natural way. Yes he does not owe anyone anything, but don’t start confusion and deceiving people. In this day and time the TRUE SAINTs have to SCREAM out to help people that are searching for answers. If you’re doing what they do, you can’t help them. I am very conscious about who pray and speak over me at all times and all that read this should be too.

  • frances

    I have always found Tyler Perry’s tendency to portray women in his movies as lost souls who are always redeemed by a “good man” to be offputting and tiresome. He seems to decry single motherhood in these same productions, but here he is, a single father. Talk about hypocrisy!!

  • Carla Young

    `IT S NOT SO MUCH OF HIM BEINGN A HYPOICRITE BUT SINCE HE S ALWAYS HONORING GOD AT EVERY AWARD SHOW AND OTHER FUNCTIONS HE SHOULD AND NEED TO MARRY HIS GIRLFRIEND GELILA. BY DOING WHAT IS RIGHT BEFORE GOD THIS IS THE MOST RIGHT AND HONORABLE THING TO DO. GOD WILL ADD MANY MORE BLESSES TO THE ONES HE ALREADY HAVE BY MR PERRY DOING WHAT IS RIGHT BEFORE GOD.

  • Taneesha Culture Clash Thomas

    no it doesn’t make him a hypocrite because he’s gay (shrugs shoulders)

  • charrisse

    he’s not a bad christian for being gay so he’s not a bad christian for choosing that woman to be his surrogate. lol…..

  • I got my own ish to worry about.

  • WhoIsLaila85

    The sin is in the act not the child. Children are blessings. I wish him and his child well.

  • Katrika

    Well people are now gonna understand the difference between the movies and real life! Folks been watching TP movies and saying “Preach” when Madea gets on her pulpit and gives relationship advice. Clearly, that has nothing to do with TP the man. He is an actor and business man and he saw a market of God-Fearing Christian Women as untapped. He played it well and women made him wealthy! Now you see….he’s just another celebrity!

    • jackie

      Amen!

  • DarkBrown

    Tyler Perry make money off church folk that’s his target audience all his movies got some sort of repentance theme. I used to be a fan but I was thru after he copyrighted “what would Jesus do”. Like are you serious Tyler?? Apparently he was but he just ain’t right.

  • Nick

    Maybe it was done via in-vitro, sexless….either way, I can’t judge anybody, but I know others will judge him because he started out wih strong Christian/Moral overtones.

  • KjB

    To try and live Christ like is not to live a life that isn’t messy and filled with mistakes. For me it is those lives (that are messy), that makes the best examples of the forgiveness, grace and mercy of the GOD that I love and worship, that in spite of all the bad and dumb mistakes I’ve made he still loves me and always shows me this. Okay, so Tyler’s messages give examples of living a spiritual life and and can be a little preachy but because he has made a poor choice or choices, does that mean he shouldn’t spread the christian thing to do and set high standards for our women (who actually make most of the rules in the relationship, most just don’t know it), and young girls to live by. Most people are so busy trying to find criticism and comparison of what a Christian should and should not do and not on their own behavior (whether or not their a practicing Christian), Only GOD can judge.

  • applesauce585

    Maybe this baby will inspire Tyler Perry to be more creative with movies and not the same story, different title. jmo

    • hollyw

      I wouldn’t hold my breath lol…

    • Nia

      Maybe if he has a daughter it will change his perspective on the plight of black women today, and his movies will focus more on lifting women up instead of using the same racial stereotypes we are constantly fighting against.

      • 1Val

        Sincerely doubt it for Tyler Perry has mommy issues due to his mother’s abusive marriage, lying to him that his stepfather was his father and child abuse/molestation.

        Tyler doesn’t and most likely will never know who his biological father is. So it makes sense that he underneath it all despises black women because of his immoral mother.

        • Hope Floats

          Fascinating insight. That could very well be true.

        • CaribbeanGlow

          So is Perry his step-father’s name? How sad.

  • Lissa329

    Tyler can do whatever he wants to do. I don’t believe the bible says that a person has to be married in order to have a successful and prosperous life. We don’t know what he does in his private life. We don’t know how he dates and if he has had no luck so lets not even go there. The bottom line is that he is getting ready to have a child that he can afford to take care of 10,000x over. Why are we so pressed?

    • SunFlower78

      I think people are pressed (if they really are, we will soon see when comments really start rolling in) because he is the one that set that message for himself. It’s not that he is having a child out of wedlock that is being judged alone, it is the message that he himself put out there about his faith, life and Christianity…he put that message out there to be judged.
      We do know that they are not married, to some that doesn’t mean anything. But to the Christian community whom he profits off of, and whom he lays hands on and prays for may feel different.
      Is he hypercritical no I don’t believe so, he is just being a human with flaws like everyone else….but I can see why some may feel that way.

      • Lissa329

        We also don’t know if he is adopting a child either. Everyone is assuming that he and this woman Gelila are the parents but they were never in a relationship according to her and her boyfriend and they have not been seen together in years. We need to stop jumping to conclusions in this instance.

        • SunFlower78

          Well anything with the media, you will get 10 different stories. My point was still if he actually is the father and it was done the old fashion way, based off his message people are going to talk.
          I really don’t have an opinion at this point, I am just addressing the issues that MN is stating.

        • hollyw

          How does him adopting a child make the situation any better than it being from his loins..? From a Christian perspective, you are still bringing that child into a single-parent household, which is not ideal. Again, from that perspective, one would want the best situation set up for that child to come into; they shouldn’t be expected to have or want less just b/c they’re being adopted.

          • MonicaElise

            I’ve never heard anything about single parent adoption going against Christian values

            • 9Boots

              You’re right. Single parent adoption does not go against Christian values. It actually falls under ministering to orphans. We should always support the orphans.

              • hollyw

                I agree. I see far too many of them to discourage any stable, sane, loving person to not take them in. That doesn’t escape the fact that many Christians do criticize single-parent adoptions under the guise of Christianity.

                • 9Boots

                  You’re right. Those Christians are obtuse. LOL! Like there’s enough two – parent heterosexuals standing in line to adopt all these kids.

            • hollyw

              Really? B/c I hear it constantly working in social services. The heteros3xual, two-parent household is seen as the pinnacle of modern Christian values, so quite a bit of criticism comes whenever a single person attempts to create a family in any other way than the ‘traditional’ way.

          • lol interesting…

            It appears as though you are missing the point. Since everyone wants to dissect his “Christianity” smh… The problem isn’t that he would be a “single parent”, but rather that he would be “fornicating”.

            No, being a single parent isn’t ideal, but single parent homes exist. He, or any other person for that matter, could get married, have children and end up getting a divorce. Him being a single parent wouldn’t make him any less of a christian.

            If he said he wants to be a father, but doesn’t think he wants to get married then perhaps adoption would be a viable option. Because he wouldn’t necessarily be partaking in premarital sex (which everyone conveniently points out that his faith and films condemn) & having a child that is adopted may afford him less criticism.

            Lol it seems as though it doesn’t matter what he does, some ppl are going to find fault in something. No matter how much open or private he is, there is going to be some for of criticism.

            Personally, I find it interesting that so many ppl (religious and nonreligious) are so very quick to throw jabs… especially since everyone is operating with SO LITTLE INFORMATION. Lol but this is a public forum, so everyone’s opinions are welcomed, no matter how far left they may be… *shrugs*

            • hollyw

              “Lol but this is a public forum, so everyone’s opinion’s are welcomed, no matter how far left they may be…*shrugs*” Nice shade 🙂 I always love a passive aggressive post lol. I’m afraid, however, no point was missed…by me. There is more than one sin, as I’m sure you know, and fornication is only one of them. The fruit of that fornication possibly resulting in a baby, quite another. So pretending that the two-parent (heteros3xual) household isn’t the cornerstone of modern Christian values is just being obtuse.
              Additionally, you seem to be thinking that other than the fact that this is indeed a forum, as you said, with opinions throughout…not nearly as many people care about Tyler Perry. So needless to say, that “constant criticism” you speak of…yeah. Has way more to do with it being in response to the artistic criticism he commonly displays in his works against black women than any other thing that could be created out of thin air.

              • lol interesting…

                Lol honestly, the only part of my post that was directly addressing you was the part about “adoption”. Everything else was addressing the opinions that I’ve seen (on this site and others) regarding criticism of his faith & how it plays into his business ventures and personal life. I just didn’t see a need to post a separate comment for the rest of my opinion.

                As for you saying my post was passive aggressive… I LITERALLY laughed out loud. Lol that “shade” u pointed out actually wasn’t geared towards u either, but since I responded to YOUR comment I can see why you would assume it was.

                Also, regarding me being “obtuse because I am ‘pretending’ that a two parent household isn’t the cornerstone of modern Christian values” makes it appear as though, yet again, you missed the point. As you already read, I did say that single parent homes are NOT ideal. But being a single parent doesn’t make you any LESS of a Christian. The author does in fact ask if him intentionally becoming a single father makes him a bad Christian. Perhaps it wasn’t clear, but my comment was addressing that no one is ABSOLUTELY clear on the circumstances that he is becoming a father because he’s been pretty private about his personal life. As YOU stated, there are a number of different sins. My comment isn’t implying that he is free from sin. Lol I don’t know him or what he does. I PERSONALLY just find it interesting that ppl are quick to make such strong criticisms with such little information.

                I’m am also aware that ppl have expressed concerns regarding his portrayal of black women. I don’t disagree with some of the things that were said about the common themes that are shown in his films. However in this post, I CHOOSE to comment on the attack on his faith and responded to YOUR comment regarding adoption because it seemed to be tied to the discussion regarding his Christianity.

                ; )

                • hollyw

                  Well thank you for posting your generalized comments on Mr. TP in response to my specified post 🙂

                  Goodday!

                  • lol interesting…

                    Oh, you are certainly most welcome! Lol & don’t forget the points I mentioned that also addressed your “specified post”.

                    Good day to you as well. ; )

                    • hollyw

                      Guuurl I’mma have to come back another day, you was doing a whole lot smh lol. Very poor forum etiquette!

      • Tcoke2009

        So because of his message he is not allowed to sin? We have all sinned but we are not condemned nor does our message diminish because of that. We are expected to sin because none was/is perfect but Jesus. The key is making it right with God, as we see, he will never be right with man.

        • SunFlower78

          Tcoke2009, my comment was in response to someone’s question (that has been deleted for some reason). I personally could care less, I was reflecting on the person’s questions and why some would feel that way. Which is nothing new…
          But I will say, the question of being allowed to sin it’s not really about allowance whether accontability. We may fall but we also know better at the same time. We all were given the gift of free will, now how ever you use that free will is your choice not an allowance. The bible gives clear direction and understanding in regards to not judging the man. But it also said that judgement starts at the church. In other words we are to judge the SIN not the man….

          Note: I also agree with your last statement, I tell people all the time, if it were up to people we would all be doomed to hell. But that is the beauty of the Holy Spirit, Grace and God’s Mercy…it is not by man’s hands so we all good….

          • Michelle Mayes

            Tyler Perry should follow his own example!

            • SunFlower78

              You are right about that, no argument there.

      • Cunningham

        God is the Author and the finisher of our lives, so regardless of what Mr. Perry does , whether it be good or bad people will have a negative response . I don’t know if he will take the time to go through these remark or not , preferably not , because people deserve to live how ever they so choose. and the ones that sat back and find something wrong with every single thing a person does need to check themselves. just because a lot of people grew up in church doesn’t mean they are Christian, or even religious, a lot of them went because they were made to go and now that they are grown they continue to go, but with a different mind set or belief. GIFTS comes without repentance. God gave Tyler his Gift, and he is using it. that what he suppose to do.

    • Denise Carrera

      Clearly, we DO know how he dates…he has pre-marital sex, aka, FORNICATES! Everyone always has to say, “don’t judge” or “he’s only human”…blah, blah, blah!

      It’s true, we have ALL sinned and fallen short, however, when the Lord gives someone a platform to represent the NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME, the Name of Jesus, this scripture applies;
      For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required; and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. Luke 12:48

      As far as “judging” goes, that means to pass sentence and that is not our place. He is under Grace just like the rest of us. But CORRECTION…YES!!! People need to read the Word and not just rattle off a few scriptures out of context! This is for those of you who think this is judging.

      Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose, and action),

      17 So that the man of God may be complete and proficient, well fitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17

      I charge [you] in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, Who is to judge the living and the dead, and by (in the light of) His coming and His kingdom:
      2 Herald and preach the Word! Keep your sense of urgency [stand by, be at hand and ready], whether the opportunity seems to be favorable or unfavorable. [Whether it is convenient or inconvenient, whether it is welcome or unwelcome, you as preacher of the Word are to show people in what way their lives are wrong.] And convince them, REBUKING and CORRECTING, WARNING and urging and encouraging them, being unflagging and inexhaustible in patience and teaching.
      3 For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate (endure) sound and wholesome instruction, but, having ears itching [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number, chosen to satisfy their own liking and to foster the errors they hold,

      4 And will turn aside from hearing the truth and wander off into myths and man-made fictions. 2 Timothy 4:1-4

      It’s called CORRECTION, DISCIPLINE. The Lord disciplines those He loves and the Church has a responsibility to do the same. Just own your sin and repent! Stop being a hypocrite and admit your struggles. Those you deceive you will be held accountable for.

      The Bible says as Christians, we are to be set apart;
      But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 1 Peter 2:9

      To be set apart is to be DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD, NOT BLENDING IN! We are not to be doing the same as the non-Believers. We are held accountable to a higher standard!

      We are to “present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.” Romans 12:1

      Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own! 1 Corinthians 6:19

      But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires. Romans 13:14

      Since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:16

      But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh Galations 5:16

      So I hope that Mr. Perry seek the Lord on how to handle his public mess. He’s been doing things in private that the Lord ALLOWED TO COME TO LIGHT! Think of that church. The word is clear on this.
      But if you fail to do this, you will be sinning against the LORD; and you may be sure that your sin will find you out. Numbers 32:23

      The Church must stop looking like the rest of the World. What makes us different is our way of living because the Most Holy God dwells within us. We must stop grieving the Holy Spirit, allowing the enemy to come in and kill, steal and destroy all that God has for us.

    • mel rowe

      he can’t do whatever he wants anymore , if he has committed his life to Christ , he is not his own anymore , he has been bought with with a price , if you get married you can’t do whatever you want whenever you want anymore you have a commitment to your spouse .

  • Angie Martinez

    The issue is he publicizes his faith and makes money off of
    it. His actions are very disappointing. The Christian life calls for holiness.
    You cannot go around laying hands on people, praying and prophesying and living
    unholy at the same time (i.e. TD Jakes recent church service). You cannot serve
    two Masters. I’m not saying God loves him any less nor am I condemning him as
    human being. Yes we all make mistakes. However we need to be more responsible.
    The phrase “God is still working on me” and “He’s not done with me yet” is an
    overused crutch that stunts spiritual growth and maturity. It makes it hard for
    Christianity as a whole to be taken seriously. Christians need to make more of
    an effort on practicing what they are preaching.

    • SunFlower78

      Very well said

      • MonicaElise

        I’m confused. The sin is fornication (sex before marriage). He’s never been married so all his sexual activity would be considered fornication. Why is he only getting criticized now that a child has been produced by it?

        • 9Boots

          “Why is he only getting criticized now that a child has been produced by it?”

          Because the pregnancy is the proof of his fornication. The only way people can prove someone is fornicating is:
          a) pregnancy
          b) a confession
          c) eye witness testimony
          d) DNA evidence

          Witthout him confessing to fornicating no one could necessarily accuse him of it.

          • MonicaElise

            Ok, I see your point. It’s just that some people act like the pregnancy / child itself is the sin instead of the act that produced it.

            • 9Boots

              So true. Most people act like the pregnancy/child is the sin and completely ignore the fornicating that created the pregnancy.

          • Jacobson MrVarietoscope

            Marie did not fornicate!

          • CarlaKah

            Who is anyone to need a confession, evidence or testimonies??? Leave the man alone most evangelical christians aren’t virgins after 25 so the majority fornicates and it isnt the end of the world. Fornication isnr a bigger sin than lying, gossiping, passing judgement, denying respect and love to your neighbor or disobeing your parents. Being on this site under this subject makes you guilty of at least one of those.

            • Guest

              Well the same can be said for you. 9Boots was merely pointing something OUT, but here you come and people just like you, and now you’re comparing sin against sin. REALLY?

              • CarlaKah

                Are you serious??? My point is that there is no point in openly judging and demanding “receipts” about someone’s premarital sex life, because fornication isn’t better or worse than any other sin. It is often not WHAT you say but HOW you say it that matters. At the end of the day, we all want to go to heaven and ONLY the way we CONDUCT ourselves and LOVE Christ will get us there. NEVER have I read in any scripture that the way you shame or judge a person determines how likely you will be to enter the kingdom of God. No Ma’am.

            • Wanda Jewett

              AMEN!!!!!

            • Cunningham

              Amen

          • Mary

            Who cares about people accusing him. This is not about proving anything to people. God created us not man.. Me personally I could give a hoot about people condemning me. My daddy in Heaven is the only one I care about disappointing. He is the author and the finisher of my faith.

            • Kim

              Amen! Amen! Amen!

          • Wanda Jewett

            OH PLEASE GET A LIFE!!!!

          • Parrishon

            It don’t matter if there is proof or not. I understand don’t let the right hand know what the left hand is doing, but at the end of the day publicly or in secret what you realize is “against thee Lord and only thee have I committed this sin.” There is no difference between a sexually active teen and pregnant teen far as deed. To be honest just because he’s having a baby doesn’t mean he fornicated. Although I believe he more and likely did it the old fashioned way. Even if he didn’t fornicate the bible reads shun the very appearance of evil.

        • 1Val

          When Tyler Perry marries a man and rears his child as a family that will solve the problem.

          • Steve

            I’ve always presumed he was gay

            • Cambria

              I did too…I didn’t even begin to think about how this is hypocritical of him. My first though was, “So, he does like women.” 🙂

          • Tcoke2009

            Whose problem? Tyler doesn’t have one, you do. So him rearing his child as a family will solve your problem? Hilarious!

            • 1Val

              Bless your heart!

        • Welton Corey Sr.

          The child is proof of his fornication.

        • CarlaKah

          My point exaxtly.

        • Mary

          Why get married now, that won’t correct the wrong that has been done. A lot of people feel that getting married after the pregnancy. I say the damage has been done, repent and ask God for forgiveness and try your best not to ever do it again..

          • serriekue

            Because chances are great that he’s not going to stop having ses. Once you get married sex within the marriage is no longer the sin of fornication.

          • Tcoke2009

            Mary…..just how do you know that he hasn’t already done that?

        • Linda M McCuff

          Because there was no real proof that he was in fornication until the child was produced.

    • hollyw

      Errm yeah, and not only that…he disturbingly always finds a way to either beat, molest, or infest every female character who does/has not lived life in complete holiness in his films. Like, seriously. Sooo the least he can get is a social beating in real life for his hypocrisy, ijs! lol

      • CarlaKah

        I do agree with your criticism of his movie

    • Mary

      New testament teaches the Gospel of Grace. I know not a lot of people understand this gospel but hey it is real. Jesus died for our past present and future sins. Not any of us were born when he hung on that cross. ijs, not any of us are perfect I can say that because I am a Christian and I Love the Lord but I do miss the mark sometimes. Nothing that I am proud of but hey it happens. So before you judge allow God to have the final say. We all have to die for ourselves.

      • serriekue

        While we are stuck in our fleshly bodies our flesh will always be at battle with our spirit. As Christians we need to daily strive, with the power of the Holy Spirit within us, to fight the flesh in our mind and heart. The problem we have in America isn’t the nonbelievers acting like nonbelievers, it’s Christians acting like nonbelievers. It happens more times than not so nonbelievers do not see the need for Jesus if those claiming Christ as their savior aren’t practice what they preach they don’t see a need for Him. That is why this is so disappointing. There used to be a time when those who claimed Christ as their savior were remorseful and grieved their sin. Perry does not display any remorse for his sin.

        • Tcoke2009

          How do you know that he shows no remorse, did he forget to tell you? When was the last time you showed TP remorse for your sins? He doesn’t have to wear shame/guilt/remorse on his face….as ling as his heart is right with God…..

      • Syl

        Amen! No one have the right to judge him but our heavenly father.

    • Linda M McCuff

      How is he making money off of his faith? His storyline is from his life experience and that’s his point of view. If his faith in God happens to be the anchor of his life, why should he incorporate that into the storyline of his movies without being accused of peddling his religion. I don’t think that it’s at all fair to lay that assumption on him. Tyler Perry is not a minister of the gospel nor has he ever portrayed himself to be. But what he does have is a testimony like all Christian, and he does share his experience as a believers, which is his right to do.your accusing him of profiting from it and that’s not true. His profits come directly from making movies. Cecil B. Demil made the ten commandments and that movie was researched and was directly apart of his faith and no one would ever critiz

      • Torey Kimyatta Gaines

        Yes yes yes

      • Cunningham

        you better say that Linda, I am so glad someone took the time to break this down, because it is so easy to sit behind this computer and think of how right or wrong a person is , when we ourselves are failing in one way or the other ourselves. none perfect but the Lord.

      • Allabt News

        You make great and valid points, but if he shares his life and experiences in his films, he should also share more about why he had a baby out of wedlock when he has resources to get married. Unless now he decides that she is not the one for him.

    • DebiHIS

      i agree, it should be your way of life, who you are, not just something to be. it’s too bad he doesn’t seem to like marraige, after all the movies. he will be forgiven if he truly repents. but that means turning the opposite direction and not going back, so he would need to marry or stop the sexual relationship with babymama until he was ready for marraige. a lot of people nowadays think forgiveness is a free pass to do what you want, then just say ‘sorry’, but for every action there is a reaction and consequences….and collateral damage, you won’t get off scot free. but with the grace of God, you always get another chance!

    • Wanda Jewett

      WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN LIFE IN THE BIBLE IT SAYS WE SHOULDN’T JUDGE OTHERS!!! READ IT OVER AND OVER!!!!

    • Tigger83

      Agree. I don’t like all of his work(t.v./film)…maybe about 35-40% but i love how he gives back to the community and has provided an avenue for black actors and those who work behind the scenes. I think it is a bit hypocritical of him considering all the messages he puts in his movies concerning women and esp. black women on how they should be valued or treated. On the other hand…..it’s HIS life. I wish him the best.

    • Lola Monroe

      Cosign!!!

    • Allabt News

      Not only that but if you already have the money and the resources, why not get married…? I never had his kind of resources, and I would love to have an opportunity to get married. I would love to afford a wedding band, I would love to have enough for a wedding ceremony at a nice church, I would love to have an opportunity to buy all those details that goes into a wedding, clothes, flowers, photography, food, etc. Not sure if I can handle an excuse, especially if he indicates he doesn’t have time to marry. Or if she is not the right woman after all. Man!

      I know a lady who had a baby with a boyfriend that now she hates. She knew he was married, but still had an affair anyways. Now she hates him, and the baby is stuck without a father because she moved to a different country. That baby will forever be in a bad position because of what the mother did! What kind of nonsense is this!

      And I come from a bad situation as well. I was born out of wedlock, and its made me think about how I want to do it right if I ever have children. More importantly, it just makes me want to get married. Its difficult though. And, now that I am older I think it just gets harder finding a Christian woman.