Straight From His Mouth: Should A Judge Control A Man’s Ability To Have Children?

May 19, 2014  |  

 

The Lorain County Sherrif’s Office

To be completely honest, something has to be done about men who have children with multiple women without any means to take care of them. I’m sure the chances of those children ending up in bad situations later on in life sky rockets when you have an absentee parent who compounds the mistake by not providing any financial help too. And yes, I do place some of the blame on the woman who has children with this type of man because it takes two people to conceive a child and as an adult you should be able to see a pattern  — meaning baby mama #3 and on should know what to expect. However, generally speaking I think that something has to be done about this epidemic. Especially when a man, or anyone for that matter, shows that they intend on having more children they cannot provide for adequately.

That’s why when I heard a story about a judge ordering man to pay back $100K in child support before fathering another child, I applauded that judge for his candor. And moreover, I think the claim that it’s unconstitutional to stop a man from procreating is complete bull on so many levels. Let’s think about it, you don’t have to go far to see that the very document declaring our independence says that everyone is entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Therefore, when you bring a child into this world that you can’t take care of, you’re stripping away that child’s inalienable rights. How can that possibly be constitutional at all?

When I think about what would happen if the government started limiting people’s privileges concerning procreation, I think we would see some good out of it. It’s, of course, a very subjective measure and it would probably prove dangerous in places like Florida, which we already know is not the place to ever give a judge too much power. There’d be a Black man locked up for life without parole meanwhile a white (or Mexican) man would be free to have eight children and never pay a dime of child support. That said, my only concern about the precedent this sets is that laws are frequently applied differently based on class and race.

Overall, we’ve seen pleas from the top (President Obama) all the way to the ground level (single mothers) for fathers to be present and assist with the raising of their children. We also haven’t seen a lot of progress lately and that’s troublesome. Just the other day I saw a man who had fathered over 20 children on television. We can’t have that. We cannot have that. What these examples tell us is that we need some help in ensuring that our children are given the best chance to succeed. That mothers are put in a position where their lives are fair and just too after childbirth. And while I do think a judge should have the power to tell a woman that if she can’t take care of the kids she already has then she shouldn’t be having anymore, I think it’s okay to start with men.

So if you want my opinion on this Ohio man who a judge told he couldn’t have children anymore until he paid his $100,000 debt in child support? I’m with it. And his claim that it’s unconstitutional? Laughable.

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  • ugottabe kidding me

    no a judge should not be able to control how many “chillens” a man can make……..AS LONG AS HE OR THE SORRY AIZZ BABY MOMMAS DO NOT APPLY FOR ANY GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE….THE MOMENT THAT IS DONE THEN THE SORRY AIZZ MAN SHOULD BE RESTRICTED FROM HAVING MORE “BASTARDIZED CHILLENS” BECASUE IT IS NOT HIM OR THE SORRY AIZZ TRICK THAT’S TAKING CARE OF THE CHILDREN ITS MY TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE GIVEN TO THE WELFARE QUEENS AND JIGGA THUGS TO SWIPE TO BUY CRAB LEGS, STEAKS, AND SHRIMP OR TO BE SOLD SO SHE CAN TAKE HER SORRY AIZZ TO DA CLUB TO FIND THE NEXT BABY DADDY…other than than as long as him and her are not receiving/applying for welfare of anykind then they can have as many “chillens” as they want

  • This is dumb. You stop the lower levels of the community from pro-creating, then the overall population decreases dramatically. They are the main ones having kids. The more intelligent, upwardly mobile people are shying away from having kids at all. Furthermore, you can’t legislate humanity like that. You are violating human rights.

    The solution to this problem is the upwardly mobile folks and the not-so-upwardly-mobile folks have to co-operate much more in daily walking life. The stark divide between “classes” in the black community leaves one side without the tools to function properly when it comes to raising kids … and the other side without the kids to raise.

  • speaksthetruth

    Go on… keep giving the gov’t power then say they took it.

  • superapist

    Deze tekst is vet

  • superapist

    Dit is normale tekst

  • Kai26

    I already knew what the comments would be like on here. It must be tiring to walk around, making yourself accountable for what men do.

  • thatguy0101

    Im going to keep it all the way 100, How are guys like this even getting p***y-s*x?!?!?!?!?! Who in the world is giving these guys a chance to lay with them???!?!?!?!?!!? Please help me with this…because Im baffled..
    Again I repeat, How are worthless, No job having, deadbeat, pieces of s**t men, and yes there are alot of men out there like this, getting females pregnant when women have to open there legs to allow a mans stuff to enter into them to help produce a child????? To me this says alot about the women..
    Im a man and I know there are enough worthless men out here, but if I was a female, would I EVEN consider giving guys like this the time of day??? H**LS to the NO!! I wouldnt even shake his hand. Its easy to run a quick background check on someone, its easy to see if a person has a record, its easy to see if a person has a job,…. just follow them to work one day and ensure he actually has a job…… is that really that hard ladies??
    Again, its the man and womans fault equally there are kids beginning born in crappy envirnoments but ultimately… sorry to say it, but females have the most blame when it comes to having kids, and if you think otherwise……..then what exactly are you teaching your daughter???? Are you teaching your daughter to NOT be accountable for her actions? Blame men for everything? Are you teaching your daughters, her true value or to love her body and respect it and only allow worthy men in her life? Are you teaching your daughters to allow ANY and EVERY man to have unprotected s*x with her?? Again, help me understand…because alot of women on her say the man is 100 to blame, and I disagree to a certain extent..

    • Mr. Sense

      Sir, I’d like this a 1000 times if I could. Great post.

  • High Five Ghost

    If it can be scary in Florida, then it’s scary now in Ohio.

    Regardless of the circumstances, you can’t stop any America human
    from creating. This aint China.

    As I agree with your premise of ratchet dudes and women who
    have kids in a less than ideal sitchu, this judge is on some BS. 100k fine?
    Cool. Jail? Cool. Community service? Cool. This ish? Nope.

    “you’re stripping away that child’s inalienable rights.”

    You are reaching. Inalienable rights don’t fit here. How
    does not having a functional parent effect inalienable rights? At best we can
    say that the child gets a bad head start. But, everyone from Kevin Durant to a steel
    mill worker (raised by a single parent) kills that argument.

    Just because we don’t like this guy doesn’t mean that we
    should go for this far reaching Ohio BS. Oh BTW, this could’ve been done to a
    white man but it wasn’t. Sorry but you gotta show me the white guy first, if
    not, than this is just a ploy to get votes from people who think that this is
    all that black men do.

    Hell naw I don’t support that!

  • Bed Wench Central

    Of course, we are not going to hold women accountable for the poor choices they make in men.

    It is too much to ask for women to avoid being impreganted by worthless men.

    And it has been said “ad nauseum”, women have all the legal authority to go through or terminate a pregancy.

    Put the responsiblity on the people who have all the power and leverage (women).

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  • Jana

    MEN and WOMEN should be responsible for their bodies, both need to practice birth control. Better, stop giving yourself to people who ain’t worth crap, don’t see a future with them or doesn’t have no sense and no heart and being unprotected.

  • FromUR2UB

    If he can’t be an adult and control his own procreation, then someone else has to do it for him. Keep it up, and after a while somebody’s going to introduce a bill for mandatory sterilization. I can foresee problems with the application of that.

  • Stacy D. Smith

    Absolutely not. This is the first step down a very dangerous path.

    • hollyw

      LOL would you say that if the article was about controlling how many babies a woman could have??

      • Stacy D. Smith

        Probably not. Seeing as how I’ve been vocal about exercising legal dominion over the womb. You just needed somebody to troll today, right?

        • hollyw

          Stacey D. Smith…if I were trolling you, you’d know it confidently 🙂 I asked an honest question, which I’m glad of, actually, b/c your response sounds like hypocrisy that I was not expecting, based on your self-prescribed gender equality stance…if I read that correctly.

          • Stacy D. Smith

            You should probably put your sarcasm meter in the shop.

            • hollyw

              *shrug* Perhaps.

    • Jas T B

      What path are u speaking of?

      • Stacy D. Smith

        Court-sanctioned birth control.

  • greatful

    This is something i will never say to another person, but it’s truly how I feel… i look down on men and women in this situation. Men who cant, dont and are unwilling to take care of their kids are weak. This is such an unattractive trait. Women who have children by these men are, imo, silly and have self esteem issues. Why bring children into this world without a willing to raise them properly and provide for them?

  • GM_I

    And here we go with vilifying men becuz they know this crap would get shut down & called out with the quickness if done to women, you know THE PEOPLE CHOOSING TO BIRTH ALL THESE FATHERLESS KIDS smh. Society needs to stop tryna hold men accountable, if we’re not going to be given the same legal authority as women have, to terminate kids we don’t want.

    “And while I do think a judge should have the power to tell a woman that if she can’t take care of the kids she already has then she shouldn’t be having anymore, I think it’s okay to start with men.”

    This mentality already exposes the writer for the biased man hating bitter woman she is smh

    • cry

      Sorry. But dont make this into a gender equality. Focus on what is best for the kids not a irresponsible grown man.

      • brian

        it is a gender issue casue as long as women can get low income housing and a check, this wont stop. Men need the authority to terminate unwanted pregnancies, that(we all know) would drop the illegitimacy rate in our community by 75%. But women would lose power so most likely ignorant people would rather turn the blame onto men even though women have the power to terminate and men don’t. Some sickos would rather castrate men then give them the legal power over their own seed

        • Kai26

          An abortion is a medical procedure. No man will ever have the ‘authority’ to authorize an unwanted medical procedure for someone else.

          • brian

            Vasectomies cause prostate cancer later in life. Men should stop getting them. And a vasectomy is also a medical procedure that shouldn’t be forced on someone. Men have the ability to impregnate but if women were responsible that wouldnt happen unless it was wanted. Im so glad im in my nieces life to tell her that she is responsible for her own body, what goes in and what comes out, she wont be having no illegitimate babies. The problem we will keep going back to is that women have power without responsibility.

            • StraightShooter

              Abortions can lead to infertility later on in life.

    • Lost Soul

      The article is called Straight from his Mouth. I’m pretty sure the author is a man.

    • FromUR2UB

      I agree with you, that women are responsible too…as in, also. The problem with these discussions is that the side who believe something is the women’s fault, and the side who believe it’s the men’s fault, don’t seem to think the blame is shared. There has to be some collective effort, because no team ever wins when only half of it is doing all the work.

      • Linaban

        That makes so much sense! I don’t understand the constant bickering and finger pointing! It creates no solutions! I also don’t understand how both sides, knowing the outcome of their actions, still choose to act irresponsibly- it is a constant vicious cycle. Men: stop having unprotected sex w/ women you do not intend to marry or procreate with! Women: stop having unprotected sex w/ men you do not intend to marry or procreate with!

      • hollyw

        Girl… that’s why these articles on here are such a waste of time, b/c nine times out of 10, it’ll be a bunch of people with common sense overshadowed by a handful of gung ho troll extremists on either side mouthing off to where we can’t even get nowhere lol smh.

        • FromUR2UB

          I know. It’s makes no sense to be so one-sided. It’s not even rational.

  • me

    Call me sexist but I’m sorry … the women are the bigger issue here because as you said, a lot of them know these dudes are not worth snot, aren’t taking care of the kids they already have and have NOTHING going for them and they still choose to have babies. If I ever have daughters I am going to drive home what people seem to always ignore – that the WOMAN’S life changes in these situations, not the man’s. That is why while it does take two, women really need to do more thinking about their practices. Starting with the men is silly because men don’t have all these babies, women do.

    • Chey

      Totally NOT sexist. You’re speaking the truth.

    • Rosetta Stone

      Yes but a man without any self control is dangerous because he can impregnate MANY women at one time.

      • GM_I

        Doesn’t matter becuz ALL women have the choice of giving birth or not, stop acting like women are forced to have babies they don’t want like men are. Its us men who have no legal authority to abortions, we cant leave babies we don’t want at safe havens with no questions asked and I highly doubt we can get a baby adopted without the consent of the mother, unlike the mother who sold her & her husband child into adoption, without his consent, while away serving military duty. Its BS!!!

        • Rosetta Stone

          You’re right women do have a choice. As you have a choice not to impregnate every woman you sleep with. Its not that hard.

        • hollyw

          Men have full choice in sexual responsibility and where they stick their pęnis, so your argument is a moot point.

          • brian

            you don’t know the definition of moot point. he smashed any argument a woman can bring up. what he said is 100 percent accurate, women have more rights regarding offspring so they should have more responsibility. Its that simple.

            • hollyw

              “moot point” – of little or no practical value.
              In order for his argument to “smash” anything (ironical use of the word), it’d have to be able to be applied BEFOREHAND, and offspring are the result of (mostly) consensual sex between two equally engaged parties.
              Please don’t embarrass yourself, brian.

              • brian

                Your response didn’t make a valid point. try again, if you have the power to decide to make life, you should be responsible for it

                • hollyw

                  LMBO brian, you are killin yourself! Men literally have the power to decide to make life WITH SEX, that is how babies are made w/ 2 people lol! Your mind is so weakened and warped by drinking your own sexist koolaid that you can’t even tell when you contradict yourself! Keep trying to argue these points in a vacuum (as if men hold NO accountability w/ sex) and you will lose every time.
                  Didn’t even have a chance to be offended by your condescension lol, like fish in a barrel…

                  • brian

                    If what u say is true then abortion would be considered murder. It is not, so men have sex, women create life when they give birth. Idiot

                    • hollyw

                      “If what u say is true then abortion would be considered murder.”

                      Now this response is not only ANOTHER moot point, but completely subjective and irrelevant to what we were arguing. Lol BYE brian!!!

            • StraightShooter

              Why don’t Black men want to take accountability for their actions?

              • Bed Wench Central

                Because they achieved their mission, getting poon.

                Why are you asking for bums to become responsible people, instead of avoiding them so nature can weed them out?

                Black Women give these worthless black men life.

                • StraightShooter

                  No one is worthless, otherwise God wouldn’t have created that person. Secondly if you want to place blame somewhere place blame on both parties. Women for having a baby with someone that is financially irresponsible. However men should take responsibility for having a baby, so either wear a condom or help raise the child. The problem in the Black community is that the accountability is always placed on women. The men however are always relinquished from any responsibility because people believe that women should know better. Not sure if you’re interested, but you could read up on this and it goes back to slavery. Although many of us want to disassociate ourselves from our past it still affects us today.

                • hollyw

                  TRUTH.

              • hollyw

                …because they have been steadily losing their integrity since forever. Good news is, there’s really no loser they can get at this point.

              • ugottabe kidding me

                because by acting like animal savages they feel its manly to make as many male “chillens” as they can to show how “strong and virile” they are just like most male creatures they mate with the female then move on unconcerned with how the offspring are reared

      • RuthM

        That’s what ‘me’ doesnt understand. Try as I might I attempted to locate data outlining the number of children born to unwed Black Men in comparison to unwed Black Women and is very limited–for obvious reasons. Birth rates are majorily tracked maternally. Likewise, the data available does show that the father’s information isn’t recorded on birth records in at least ONE-THIRD of ALL non-marital births.

        So, Rosetta Stone, you are correct. We don’t have the data necessary to determine if Black Men are having more out-of-wedlock kids than Black Women (on average) because we can only collect information on the parent who is present. Once again, we are allowing irresponsiblity to fester among AA Men.

        I’m glad to see that this OOW rate in our community is declining (and it is..read 2012 CDC reports), but perhaps the world should give Black Women and modicum of thanks for even keeping the race on the planet. Half the people on this site wouldn’t exist if marriage was required prior to pregnancy.

        • sofia

          If marriage was requirded prior to pregnancy, I dont believe this will limit births, but increases marriages. And people will be more selective about who their choose to procreate with

          • RuthM

            Ahhh, I wish I could view the world witht those same rose-colored glasses. Although the out-of-wedlock birthrate has obviously increased within the last 2 generations, don’t believe for one minute that unmarried people were not having kids together.

            Also, please educate the rest of us on your ideas of how we would regulate marriage? Wasn’t that long ago that Blacks in this country couldn’t legally marry. So all those offspring of enslaved people were technically ‘out-of-wedlock’.

            Stop making excuses for one parent and laying blame to the other.

        • FromUR2UB

          I suspect that the fathers’ information is not recorded in 1/3 of those instances, is because the mothers are probably giving the babies their own maiden names and not naming the fathers on the birth cetificates.

          • RuthM

            Or they (fathers) are simply not involved–which is the issue in a majority of cases where Fathers are not involved.

            You keep blaming Women for Men’s choices and the only thing that you really accomplish is support the argument that ongoing irresponsibility and poor behaviors are genetic. Same argument racists Whites make.

            • FromUR2UB

              No, I don’t “keep blaming women for men’s choices”. But you seem to not want to blame them for their own choices. Unless they were in comas when they were impregnated, then how ridiculous is that? Now, look at the guy. What’s so irrisistible about him? He’s fat and worthless. Yet, you think women shouldn’t be able to see he’s nothing? Please.

              • RuthM

                So being irresistahle is a requirement for sex? You sound a tad immature. You’re basing your opinion on a mug shot.

                My point is both people are equally responsible.

                • FromUR2UB

                  If your point is that both people are responsible, then you should have stated that, somewhere. Irrisistibility should be a requirement for sex.
                  You sound a tad indiscriminate.

            • brian

              “You keep blaming Women for Men’s choices ”

              It is a womens choice to bring babies into this world without a proper support system, not a mans. Men have no say so. Until men have more rights that’s the way it is. Knowing that you have all the power over the outcome of your pregnancy, you should feel you have more responsibility of the outcome of that pregnancy, and their lies the problem, that disconnect. Women get pregnant and have unwanted babies cause the government empowers them to do so. They get housed, food, medical, etc. Take away all of that and it would stop. To me it should be, if you are not married when you got pregnant you shouldn’t be entitled to any free government programs or even child support, that’s how the government can stop women from having babies that are not wanted and it would do so much to bring families together, cause women would go back to knowing they need a man to start a real family.

        • brian

          “but perhaps the world should give Black Women and modicum of thanks for even keeping the race on the planet. Half the people on this site wouldn’t exist if marriage was required prior to pregnancy”

          Gtfoh with that nonsense. There would be a lot less African americans in jail too if that happened. A lot less poor African americans, a lot less violent African americans. The positive outway the negatives. We would be better off as a people if our women didn’t have kids until they were married dummy

          • RuthM

            We would be better off as people if our men didnt have kids until they were married dumb f*ck. There it is.

            • brian

              men don’t have babies, we have sex. women have babies that is the fact that we know when we are little. You are an idiot, take biology class, men don’t have babies. Children out of wedlock is an issue about irresponsible women, not men. Women have the power to be on birth control and to terminate.

              • RuthM

                I knew that I shouldn’t engage with a dumb, bitter, f*ck. You are either a queen mad a his mother for your childhood struggle, you’re jealous of Women because you haven’t saved enough $ for your operation, or some chick has you on child support. Too bad your mother didnt have your same opinion..to terminate.#bye

                • brian

                  that’s what women resort to when confronted with facts about their lack of responsibility

                  • RuthM

                    No queen, this is what Women resort to when an effeminate male engages in unecessary name calling. Queen stop spending so much time on a website specifcally aimed at Women. You should spend more time working extra hours to save money for that operation you so desperately want…or on therapy so you can get over the anger you have at your mother.

                    • brian

                      I love my mother loser she was a real woman that did it the right way(waited until she as married and never divorced). Never had kid out of wedlock and always worked, she demands respect not cause she is a woman, but because she was a responsible person. On the contrary it sounds like you hate your father and have daddy issues like alot of women(that need therapy) who comment on these sites.
                      But this blog is a about should a judge decide whether a man can father kids?, that is a question that demands responses from men, whether any hypocritical female likes it or not. And you sound like a carpet munching dyyykkee that hates masculinity

                    • RuthM

                      Stop lying. You and none of your sibling have the same father. Angry at your trickin momma and taking it out on all Women. The fact that you felt like you had to convince a complete stranger on a blog confirms such. I can tell you weren’t raised by a man because you spend your time on this site (MADAME Noire) arguing with Women. Men don’t really do as much.

                      Pay your child support and get your finger out ya ass.I can’t waste anymore time on you.

                    • brian

                      You have nothing, U are disarmed.

        • me

          It is not a matter of me not understanding anything. You all sound ridiculous and are a huge part of why this is an issue. Decades have been spent blaming men for this issue and they have their part. But at what point are these women who KNOW these dudes are worthless yet keep having babies going to be held accountable? Everything is not everyone else’s fault, contrary to what a lot of women are taught. More to the point is the reason they keep having all these kids is because people around them make it easy for them to. If they didn’t have family and systems in place enabling them it would stop. SMH.

          • Kai26

            Basically, you imply that men should not be held accountable for themselves. YOU sound ridiculous and YOU are a huge part of the problem.

            • me

              No, I didn’t. The women are not being held accountable on the level they should and that is what I’m saying. But a lot of black women will find ways to excuse this mess, so it’s a pointless argument. Keep willingly having babies with deadbeats expecting different results. That’s on you. These cycles will never be broken.

              • Kai26

                Miss, I don’t have any children and I have never been pregnant. There is nothing on me.

                You are right. The cycle will never be broken as long as there are people like you who believe women should be responsible for what men do.

          • RuthM

            Well, you just said it. Apparently AA men are the White Man’s burden. They are by your standards, genetically flawed and can’t make any rational independent decisions. Everyone shouldnt expect much from them, but hold themselves to standards. You should shaje your head because your rationale is pathetic.

            • me

              Missing the point. LIke I said below, keep justifying black women making poor choices in men and having all these kids. Y’all kill me.

              • RuthM

                I didn’t miss the point. You missed the entire point of the article which outlines the court’s recognizing that this man is a deadbeat that should be sterilized. As I stated earlier, you argue that Men have to be lead around by the nose or told by Whites (ie. courts) how to make better choices. You have a very poor view of AA men.

                Both adults who continue to sire children they can’t support are flawed. If you or people you know suffered because you were reared in single-parent home (not saying that all such homes struggle), then seek out the absent parent and lay the blame at their doorstep.

        • geez louise

          “…but perhaps the world should give Black Women and modicum of thanks for even keeping the race on the planet.”

          Um, you mean the AA ethnic group and not race, since AA’s are a small percentage of the total global black population. Black people will go on whether or not these women keep up the OOW dysfunction.

          Also, why do some black people think numbers are enough, rather than the quality of the children they produce/raise? Who cares about keeping up numbers when a good number of these children are destined to live low-quality lives (and produce children who follow in the same patterns) since they lack the resources and support to do so? This mentality that it’s okay to birth children into situations where they’re destined to fail makes me sick.

          • RuthM

            I know exactly what I meant. I havent researched Black birth rates outside of the US.

            Had you read my earlier posts I didnt suggest that Black births is a numbers games, rather, I stated that there is likley a high percentage of people criticizing AA Women who themselves wouldnt exist if their mothers required marriage prior to birth.

            Let’s focus on the article. It’s about a deadbeat father who apparently doesnt possess the basic common sense to stop producing kids he won’t feed.

        • how is it possible for men to have more out of wedlock babies than women? women are the ones that have the babies. what you see all the time is one man with 6 to 7 baby mamas. so that’s 6 to 7 unmarried women with babies and one (1) man unmarried with babies.

          • RuthM

            You just answered your own question ABL. Man = 7 kids, whereas each Woman = 1 child. It’s math.

            • That would mean that each man with illegitimate children has more children than each woman with illegitimate children.

              That also means there are more women with illegitimate children than men.

              If seven women have one child each by THE SAME MAN, that means only one man has illegitimate children … and SEVEN women have illegitimate children.

              • RuthM

                Depends on whether you are viewing it from the standpoint of the Father, the Mother, or the Children.

                I think it’s basic common sense that having more ‘illegimate’ children is more harmful (ie. one MAN with 7 KIDS) than 1 WOMAN having ONE CHILD. Again, I was basing my argument from the standpoint of CHILDREN born, not whom they are born to.

                Hence the topic of THIS article. ONE MAN unable to pay for MULTIPLE children.

                • Guest

                  He has 7 kids. She has one. wtf are you talking about?

              • Rosetta Stone

                He has 7 kids. she has one. wtf are you talking about? lol

            • hollyw

              WOW. I cannot believe you just had to do that math for him… it all makes sense now.

    • lockstress

      I’m with you…if you don’t open your door to let strangers in…close your worm hole and impose the same restrictions.
      These chicks are like toilets although a toilet flushes the filth…

    • greatful

      I agree 100%. I also agree with the judge.

    • hollyw

      Sexist AND extremely flawed logic 🙂 Nothing you stated actually supported the argument that women are a bigger problem than men. In fact, again, the fact that men have less impetus to stop fathering children because their consequences are less (aside from this case) more strongly supports the argument that men are, in fact, the problem and bigger key to the solution. This is a case of obvious-yet-not obvious with you being a product of a patriarchal society.

      Ironically, you didn’t even address this writer’s point, which is to apply bigger consequences to men so they take more responsibility in procreation, which would, in theory, make your argument nonexistent. Obvi, if men got jail time for their irresponsibility, or sterilized, THEIR lives would be changed as much as the woman’s, so you could drive that point home to your daughters.

      • me

        Nope. You are missing the point. If the women were not consenting to sex with them without taking the precautions they need to on THEIR end to ensure they don’t end up single mothers, no kids would be produced in the first place. That’s the point. The women are the gatekeepers. Nice try though.

        • hollyw

          No, you are missing the point. Sex is a mutually consenting act. MUTUAL. “Gatekeepers” is the exact kind of arbitrary social construct I was referring to smh lol. Try harder, sir. Or, if this case trend picks up, end up behind bars, apparently.

      • Kai26

        TY.

    • vettaboo

      I totally agree! 100% at the end of the day, us women are in full control of a pregnancy.

    • Kai26

      You’re sorry for being sexist?

    • Ginny

      What makes the guy an issue at all is because its the man’s sperm that produces children. Females can’t get pregnant by themselves. And yes, ANY judge should be able to control the numerous black males who insist on not controlling their private parts.

    • Faith

      You are right. It is just as much as the woman’s fault as the man’s. These women have it in their minds that they think they can “CHANGE” him and he will take care of their baby. If he didn’t take care of the other children by other women, what makes you think he is going to do for your child? All the other women had the same thought. Their thought process is that having a baby is going to change him. NEWSFLASH: If somebody didn’t tell you, having a baby is not going to change him. Especially when you knew how the guy was from the start. I don’t even feel sorry for some of these women if they knew how sorry the man is. I feel bad for the children because they have to suffer and pay the price. So both parties has to take responsibility to protect themselves and you cannot depend on the other person.