How Responsible Are You for Black Stereotypes?

February 17th, 2011 - By Dr. Phoenyx Austin

“There’s like a civil war goin’ on with black people and there’s two sides. There’s black people, and there’s n*ggas. And the n*ggas have got to go!! Everytime black people wanna have a good time, ignant A$$ n*ggas Fawk it up! I love black people, but I hate n*ggas! Oh, I hate n*ggas. Boy, I wish they’d let me join the Klu Klux Klan. Shyte, I’d do a drive-by from here to Brooklyn!” — Chris Rock

Now picture this:

You’re in a movie theater with your friend. It’s packed and tons of people are chattering. While waiting for the film to start, you glance around the theater and nonchalantly notice how you, your friend, and a group of three people seated directly behind you, are the only black people in the theater. Soon after the lights start to dim. A couple of film previews run and finally a voice request that everyone turn off her cell phone and remain quiet during the film. You reach into your pocket and turn your cell phone to silent. The movie starts.

It’s only 25 minutes into the movie and everything’s going well. The movie’s great! The plot’s intense, and you can hear a few whispers of excitement from the audience. Then a set of voices start to come from directly behind your seat- it’s the group of three that you noticed earlier. They’re cracking ignorant jokes and laughing loudly. And each person, as if they’re in competition for attention, takes turn making animated and obnoxious commentary. You and your friend look at each other. You both roll your eyes and try to ignore them. You’re hoping that they’ll eventually quiet down. But they don’t let up. In fact, it goes on for about 10 more minutes. The audience is now filled with irritable whispers. And a few people even turn around to stare. And finally, a white guy from up front turns around and shouts, “Shut the hell up!” The group of three chuckle and finally settle down. You look over at your friend. He’s visibly embarrassed.

On the drive home, you and your friend discuss the loud and obnoxious group in the movie theater. Your friend remarks, “I swear they were such a damn embarrassment!” Your friend complains how blacks are constantly being stereotyped as “loud” and “ignorant,” and how he hates when black people validate these stereotypes. Then your friend also remarks that it would have been less embarrassing if the theater was filled with black people instead of whites.

Interesting…

I experienced this scenario a month ago. And while I admit that the group of black people’s behavior left me shaking my head, I dismissed them as a group of ignorant people in general. I didn’t make a fuss about their race. Maybe I’ve watched too much reality television. But between ‘Real Housewives’ and ‘Jersey Shore,’ I’ve grown very accustomed to whites making as much of a fool of themselves as blacks. Let’s be honest- for every one Nene Leakes, there are at least three other white reality T.V. stars acting the fool. Still, I can understand why my guy friend felt the way he felt. So I found myself wondering how many other black people have experienced a similar situation to mine. And I found myself also wondering how many people feel the same as my guy friend. Do you feel like the ignorant behavior of another black person (or group of black people) is embarrassing because it’s a reflection of you or black people as a whole? Do you think black people should act differently or “modify” their behavior when white people are around?

Speak on it in the comments!

Dr. Phoenyx Austin is a physician, writer, & media personality. She loves providing advice and witty, straightforward commentary. She is also working on her first fiction book- a psychological thriller. If you want to know more about Dr. Phoenyx Austin and her  future projects- check her out on Facebook!

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  • subud

    I am not black, but my children are. I am Native American, and I totally agree with Bella, minorities do not get the luxury of being perceived as individuals, even by other minorities. I learned this lesson very early in life and have learned to adjust my tone, mood and vernacular to leave non-natives with the lasting impression that I am not the lazy, drunken, ignorant a**hole supposedly leeching their tax dollars via supposed checks we receive monthly -or worse- the all-knowing, all-wise, spiritual medicine woman of their dreams that will lie naked with animals in the sun while contemplating the complexities of life for the entertainment of some white artist. Almost always, people will ask me “What are you?” a few minutes into conversation, and each time I pretend I have no clue what they are talking about until they clarify with “whats your race/ethnicity etc..”. From there, my interest in the interaction takes a nose dive and I am left with the responsibility of clearing up the top five misconceptions spread about indians (no, we do not receive monthly checks from the government, no free college either, sorry I do not care for the movie Dances with Wolves, Avatar or any of the Twilight Saga, I don’t smoke peyote and neither has any native I immediately know, and never even sipped alcohol, my cheekbones do not define my ethnic identity, most natives I know have rounded cheekbones and short hair, thank you…) If I get annoyed and start being snappy, I know they will assume its because “indians” are rude and snappy, if Im sweet and patient, its because Indians are sweet and patient, etc..its SO FRUSTRATING. When my brother in law credited my 4 year old daughters high-octive voice to her being half black, I just about punched him (she’s loud because she’s four, a**hole…ughh still makes me mad). I wish people were just a tad smarter, and lot less presumptuous and judgmental.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lisette-Bowman/100000689937803 Lisette Bowman

    Beatrice, I still think you aren't from this world but you do make some valid points in this post.

    If black people don't come together and stop hating EACH OTHER and be more supportive of EACH OTHER and cut out all the insignificant nonsense we would be okay. I don't need a white person to tell me that.

    Our First Lady is beautiful, smart and CLASSY. She makes me proud to be a black woman. We will NEVER again see another first lady that comes close. For those before her I will Jackie Kennedy her props. Another class act.

  • REAPER

    I just wanna know: WHY ARE BLACK PEOPLE ALWAYS HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN OTHERS? And why does a situation like this have to be a stereotype rather than a sense of etiquette…? The word “stereotype” holds many negative connotations when it comes to Blacks but when used towards others—the connotations are more than often positive…..SEE—U TOO have fed into the BS unknowingly—-been spoon fed it and ate it up—-PLEASE CHECK YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND WHY YOU THINK THE WAY YOU DO!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lisette-Bowman/100000689937803 Lisette Bowman

      Good lord, REAPER. I like you but black people unknowingly feeding into the BS is CRAP. Unfortunately for ALL races stereotypes are for the most part (and there are exceptions) TRUE. Good and bad. Now you think about that.

  • Anne

    Anyone who attributes the bad behavior of some blacks to all of us doesn't deserve the time of day, much less conversation to change their minds. We are no more monolithic than whites are, and it's time we acknowledged that ourselves. It's one thing to acknowledge problems among some of us, but another to buy into the ridiculous idea that these problems define us. As far as "modifying" behavior is concerned, we should do it for ourselves and any kids we are responsible for.

  • DLG

    I am going to assume that this topic is being debated by either young adults or individuals with limited experiences. I love every wrung of our ladder I embrace every face of our rainbow and I applaud the individuality of our people. I don't think I am any more responsible to excuse them than they are to excuse me. I love my stoic reclusive demeanor as much as I love the live out loud demeanor of others. I will agree that there is a time and a place for all behavior but until we embrace each other fully we will always be at the mercy of the approval of others. We can improve our communication by speaking in love rather than judging by assumption. If you believe you are better than, reach out to someone you think is less than and you may discover you learn as much as you teach.

    • Scoops

      I like this. Very real…everyone is different with a different personality. There is a time and a place for everything but it is NOT for me to look down upon them. Very well stated.

  • jessica

    i fully agree.i wish i would have said it like that. it does'nt matter what race you are just respect the people around you.

  • jessica

    i agree.

  • jessica

    i will be the first to say that if im in a theater and a bunch of dumb white people are making tons of noice i would want them to be kicked out too and the same with any other race. i also think that the whole wearing the pants to their ankle thing is stupid that really cant be comfertable and it has to be annoying to have to hold them up when their walking but i see every race do it. oh and the cracker is alive and well too im sure every town has a white trash neighborhood/trailor park. please realize there are bad people, good peoplesmart people,dumb people,respectful people and disrespectful people in every race.

  • jessica

    thats the dumbest thing ive heard in a long time! so because she does her hair and dresses the way she does that means she is not representing the black community the right way? please explain. what should she be wearing?does she need cornrows to be black enough? i think she is a very smart woman and as a first lady she is representing just fine you want her to fit the stereotype.

    • Dee

      Ms. Obama is doing her thing. Beatrice your comments are contradictory and therefore don't make sense.
      PLEASE keep in mind that our president is bi-racial so he should be an example of a black AND white man to the youth in america. His father is of African descent and his mother is american. I believe he is a true example of what it means to be "African-American".

  • jessica

    I think that everyone should act diffrently in different environments (etc. people can't go to a ball and act like its a frat party). i dont think that black people act black and i dont think that white people act white every individual is their own person and it's up to that person to make the right empression. i think that as long as everyone is treated with respect there should be no specific way to"act". i have never asked myself if i should act differently around another person because of their race. thank you for talking to me about this. i want everyone to know not all white people have race on our minds and i hope black people dont either.

  • Guest

    The sad truth is that black people will always be judged as a group. That is here to stay. We will never please white people, so we can stop trying. When it comes to our own people and our own community, we can do better. If we are in our own churches and young people are being loud, say something. If a black person is interviewing another black person and we're not dressed appropriately, tactfully explain our decision and what can lead to a better interview next time. We can only take care of our own.

    • jessica

      white people are not asking for you to please us. we are just like you in every way except you have a better tan=) if everyone any race would just be respectful towared eachother race would never be an issue.just like what you said about the young people in church being loud if that happens in a church full of white people we say something to because that person is being disrespectful. dont think so much about your race really white people don't think about it as much as you think. hopefully one day when people say "take care of our own" it will mean everyone.

    • jessica

      are'nt you judging white people as a group in saying that because im white im going to judge you?

  • neme

    OK, let me take this one point at a time:

    “Do you feel like the ignorant behavior of another black person (or group of black people) is embarrassing because it’s a reflection of you or black people as a whole?”

    Yes and no. Unfortunately, unlike whites, we do not have the “privilege” of being seen as individuals. We tend to be regarded as a homogenous group as evidenced by the fact that we are often all lumped into one category by ignorant people.

    It shouldn’t happen, but it does.

    “Do you think black people should act differently or ‘modify’ their behavior when white people are around?”

    No. I think a lot of black people should act differently or modify their behaviour full stop. Not for the benefit of white people, but for THEMSELVES. You give whites too much credit and too much power for suggesting “we” should change “for them”.

    • Beatrice

      If we could act more like the whites, we would not be filling the prisons, listening to rap music define our women as "hoes", and dealing crack.

      Whites "act" white – with more dignity than we. Obama is successful because he speaks like a white person.

      The more white we can act, the less inferior we will feel and be accepted.

      • jessica

        obama is not "acting white" just because he doesnt use ebonyx. i really hope that your opinion on this topic is not passed down to your children if so they will never think they are anything but black children that cant achieve anything because they are'nt white. who do you want to accept you? accept yourself if your smart and respectful other people any race will accept you as well.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lisette-Bowman/100000689937803 Lisette Bowman

        Beatrice, admit it. You are not from this world are you?

    • jessica

      i really am sorry that you feel that white people think that all black people are the same. do you have any white friends? how do you know thats what we are all thinking?yes, there is some black people that can be out of line sometimes but that is in every race not just yours and just because one white person is a bad apple i dont think that every black person thinks we are all bad apples.
      I fully agree with the second half . if anyone should change it should always be for themselves not because of anyone else exspecially because of race.

  • jessica

    im not sure how i even got on to this site but it happend. white people are not all the same we do not think the same just like black people are not the same and do not think the same.everyone is their own person. stop thinking everything is about race! most of us dont associate one black person with another just because of your skin.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lisette-Bowman/100000689937803 Lisette Bowman

      Hi Jessica,

      I totally agree with you but unfortunately America isn't built this way.

  • Ruth James

    100% BS. My sophomore year of college was devastating- my mother had been diagnosed with colon cancer and had quickly approached terminal stages. I made the decision that year to move her up from our home in Mississippi to New York where I am attending college, in order to resume being her primary caregiver (because she had no other support at the time). Needless to say it was hectic I started missing classes and was struggling to stay engaged in college life. My best friend who is one of the black-leader-middle class- uppity-negro-watch-me-make-all-a's–become-doctor-and-lift-my-people persons on campus, finally confronted me one day after I was late to a class seminar. She told me that she was embarrassed by my behavior, and while she understood I was in a difficult situation (taking care of mom, financially and medically- no s–!!!!) she still felt the I that I should strive to set a better example as we were the only students in a predominately white class who were probably attributing my disorder to being black and lazy.

    Not one word of encouragement! My mother raised me my brother alone; and not one other person in my family is blessed enough to say, "I'm not rich, and didn't get through college- but I have two children, both in Ivy league colleges." And that's an accomplishment D–nt! I love black people and our community. But I also love my individuality; i believe when we stop depending on others to define us and vice versa and carrying the burden of assumed negativity, we may actually be stronger as a community (and Im not just talking about a bunch of elitist black folk walk around talk about what all they got and how different they are from the stereotype).

    F–k Racist white people. F–k insecure black people. And Double F–k Elitist black a-holes, who keep drilling into these kids minds that their nothing if they don't look a certain way, talk a certain way, go to a certain college, or spend their lives trying to getting certain amounts of paper. Thumbs up to ANYONE (not just blacks) but anyone who is trying to send out positive message of people being content, and having self-respect and love, and showing the same to all men as they go through this journey called life.

    • john kuzmic

      doesnt sound like you got much of an education..too much ffff this and ffff that…you are a typical black..african american..i noticed you put that in the comment…why did you classify yourself as african american…we white people have pride in ourselves that we do not have to state something that is obvious…signing off a polish amerian..whose parents came from poland.. …….making sure you knew polish people come from poland and african americans came from africa…and i didnt need a college education to figure that out…got to go…got to talk with my wife and irish english french american

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lisette-Bowman/100000689937803 Lisette Bowman

        To Ruth James,

        First of all, I agree with ALL of your fffff words. You are saying them on paper, not out loud so WTFFF? OOps, the dreaded fffff word. Matter of fact I agree with everything you said because it's ALL TRUE.

        To john kuzmic,

        Shut the ffff up!. Oops there I go again. Also get off this blog and quit acting like you haven't written or spoken the fffff word. That was HER way of expressing herself. If she's a typical african american you are definitely a DUMB POLOCK. Jokes about your culture are worse than ours. Not so nice to be stereotyped, is it? A little college education might just do you some good.

  • Danny

    In the eyes of GOD we are ONE. When I think of who I am, I see myself as a son of GOD, not black, white, blue or green. I leave the person who sees himself that way to smell my smoke. I am not embarrassed by someone who chooses to enjoy him or herself in whatever way. After all everybody has their own method of having fun, whether they be black, white, blue or green and they may irritate someone else in some way. Lets all be GOD's children and stop the color consciousness.

    • jessica

      thank you!!

    • ADRIENNE

      Hey Danny–Next time the police stop you try that "child of god" crap and see how far it gets you. IN AMERICA–FIRST, YOU ARE "BLACK"!!!!

  • The Cynic

    Idk… this one is tricky. On one hand you think to yourself "why can't I just be an individual and not have to racialize every damn moment of life?" and in the other hand you know that the actions of others might affect you being discriminated against(stopped by the cops/employment/passed over in a film role/etc.). I can't make up my mind. We should all encourage people to be descent human beings, but I don't feel like society is EVER going to change their views on Black people. People stereotype us as being on welfare & having STDs, however if you take the time to isolate the Black population, you will see that it is really only a few ruining it for the rest. Sigh… either way we lose, so I guess all we can do is take care of ourselves, frenz, family.

  • jay

    hey sis, i say this with the best intent… humble yourself.i know from example that it is that sort of thinking which furthers our gap between our brothers and sisters. be grateful that you have your education and enough maturity to know how to conduct yourself because as we know not everyone is exposed to mannerisms that some of us consider basic knowledge; and use it to educate your friends. thats the true value in knowledge.

    peace :)

  • theBlackPocahontas

    @Savannah I think you are one of the people that the article refers to. What does you being quiet and even tempered have to do with anything? Furthermore, why do you hang your hat on being this way and getting A's in school as something that is needed to be done to avoid a stereotype?

    The point of the article is simply, the behavior of a few being allowed the characterize the masses. Just b/c you and your former friends are just that doesn't mean that you won't be looked in the same vein as her if you two were in the same place and she acted a fool right before you got there. They won't know you make straight A's. They won't care.

    The bottom line is, if this former friend had all these problems as you suggest, then you shouldn't be friends with her anyway regardless as to her fitting a stereotype about black people. Furthermore NO ONE is even tempered quiet and observant ALL THE TIME.

    AND it's time out for US being so critical about the finer aspects of our culture. We are fun-loving people who joke and enjoy one another whether it's in church, in public or whatever. There is however a line that EVERYONE can cross

    • kimberly

      I don't think its helpful to tell this girl that she shouldn't associate with her friend. maybe she can try to bring her friend "up" and be a positive influence for her – or maybe not , I'm just saying that we shouldn't always be so quick to write each other off.

      It's sad but true, in the case of black folks, 1 speaks for many (if not all); but I think its important that we all try to raise our standards and do better and bring along ya homie! Not so much to "prove" anything to white ppl , but rather to IMPROVE our own conditions. We as a people(Black amerikans) have so little respect in our country, in the world and even amongst one another and this is something only we can fix. Jessie Jackson can't help, calling on some white (or any ) politician won't help and ignoring "ni99az" in the hope they go away – won't help.
      We've been stuck in this b*t@h together, and that's the only way we will survive it – together.

      • theBlackPocahontas

        I understand your point overall HOWEVER at some point you have to cut your losses because at the end of the day sometimes its better to move on and help by simply being an example from a distance than up close especially when you are young and in school.

        Too many of our young girls are getting sucked in for trying to stay true to someone as opposed to stepping away from that situation. It's a balance I agree, but the key is to not make overall judgments.

        That's what we have to get away from

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  • Kyra Morris

    Moot question. We don't have to anymore.

    • Bella

      I respectfully disagree, Kyra. In my experience, black individuals are virtually always treated as representatives of their entire race, particularly when it comes to negative stereotypes. It's the nature of privilege that white people get to be individuals and we don't. They are not necessarily held to be representative of – or accountable for – the actions of other members of their race, while people of color are held as examples of their races.

      I think it's naive to believe otherwise and I believe that our work will not be done until we can be treated as equals before and under the law, by the institutions that make up the state, and by ordinary individuals in our day-to-day lives. In other words, this is a lifetime project for each and every one of us, our children, our grandchildren, and as many generations as needed, going forward.

      • chrissy

        agreed. to both of your comments actually

      • janey

        I totally agree with you. How one of us acts is "how we all act!"

      • Frederica Bimble

        You can add to that, women in general. Example: a newspaper article shows a woman in a car accident then that means ALL women are "lousy drivers." In fact, ANY group that isn't white and male are grouped together as a whole. It is ridiculous and illogical thinking.
        It is true what you've written but it is women who are still fighting for the books to be level in all aspects. Are there any places in the US where the colour of one's skin denies them access to human rights? I don't mean the individual hypocrisies we all know exists too well but an actual difference in the writing of legislature.
        I'm pretty sure it is only women who are still held back by an offensive writing of laws and "what we're allowed to do." Didn't President Obama sign a LONG OVERDUE bill on discrimination against women when he first came into office?

    • Bella

      In so saying, I also recognize that it is not our responsibility to educate white people, but it certainly is our responsibility to work hard to be the best people we can be to serve as leaders and positive examples for our community. Too long have we abdicated that responsibility. The time for unity, solidarity and an all-out effort to educate and uplift our people (socially, intellectually and morally) is long overdue.

      Every day, I hold out hope that we can all join in this beautiful struggle. I, for one, am committed.

      • kimberly

        co sign 100%