Pastor Drops Dead In Front Of Congregation After Confessing To Affair

March 14, 2014 ‐ By
Bishop Bobby Davis

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Bishop Bobby Davis of Miracle Faith World Outreach Church in Bridgeport, Conn. approached his congregation after a service on Sunday so that he could share something important with them. As it turns out, Davis confessed to them that he had engaged in an affair years ago, and it had been weighing heavily on him emotionally. In the midst of his church members confronting Bishop Davis about what he had to say, he dropped dead in front of the congregation.

According to the Connecticut Post, those present outside of the church during the time of Bishop’s confession say it was very loud in the sanctuary, and it didn’t seem positive, but members of the church that were inside at the time claim that they were actually shouting out their support to Bishop Davis, not yelling at him negatively. But elder Judy Stovall said the stress of it all and the secret in general caused him to fall out.

“After the service on Sunday the bishop’s family asked us to remain in the church and the bishop confessed to us something that happened long ago. He wanted to come clean with all of us. He wanted to ask our forgiveness.

We were shouting, `We forgive you, we love you,’ but the stress of all of it — he had a heart attack. I held his head as he lay on the floor. Our congregation is hurting now.”

But according to the Christian Post, others that were there claimed Bishop Davis was ambushed and things got messy, so that’s what caused the heart attack.

“He (Bishop Davis) had confessed it (infidelity) personally to his wife prior to the service, and she called a meeting after church with just the members and the members stayed. He wasn’t there at the time, he was somewhere else apparently, neither of them were in the service that morning. They had one of their pastors do the service.

From what I was told, she (pastor’s wife) told the congregation what he had done. And so, when he comes through the door he had no idea what he was walking into. So it wasn’t even. ‘We’re gonna make an announcement today’ … in a unified way as a couple.

I’m told that when he walked through the door she basically told him, ‘Tell them what you just told me,’ which is what induced the heart attack, because it’s not like he was walking into it knowing.

She said it and he said, ‘Yes, that’s right.’ She asked him to say who exactly it was. And he said, ‘Well, it doesn’t matter [because] that person has passed. God forgive, let’s get past it.’ Apparently it was his family members who reacted out in anger, from what I understand. It was not the congregation.

It got physical. One of the sons attacked him. I was told one of the daughters poured water on him. It was like something out of, not even like the Old Testament, but a bad reality TV show. My heart is so devastated because it could have been handled in a private manner.”

Bishop Davis was taken to the hospital in Bridgeport, where he was pronounced dead. Bishop Davis had been the leader of Miracle Faith World Outreach Church since it was founded in 1967 and founded the church with his wife.

Interesting enough, Davis was actually a certified marriage and family therapist according to reports, and he and his wife just celebrated their 50th anniversary last summer.

 

 

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  • razorstar90

    Man cheats on his wife and dies bc he’s not man enough to fess up to his congregation and people are blaming the wife. Really people? Really? When are we going to stop hiding behind “Do not judge lest you’ll be judge”. People need to be held accountable for your actions. God will forgive you but that doesn’t mean you get off scot free. Your actions have consequences and you have to deal with those consequences. Everyone here talking about “Oh as long as god forgives him bla bla bla” Stop it. If being a christian was that simple everyone would make it into heaven. You have to walk the walk if your gonna talk the talk.

  • PeaceCorps1

    None of us know how we will act when in shock. The wife had no time to process his news. He used the church setting because he felt he was safe to do it there.

  • Cheryl Dozier

    lol

  • CyberianGinseng

    So… she calls a meeting in order to put this brother on blast. The congregation wasn’t enough so she enlists his children to carry out her shaming regimen. His son physically attacks him and his daughter pours water on him. Well… none of them have to worry about his cheating ways now. I hope she’s happy.

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  • BigFatLoserDude .

    There were definetly some Christian principles lacking in that congregation if there was yelling and throwing things.

  • Whoa!

    Guilt killed him…

  • sam perkins

    Yeshua aka Jesus warming up the coals

  • Suss

    May he RIP. What a sad way to go though.

  • OlivertheSchnauz

    My husband and I pastor a church & I can honestly say that some so called “Christians” are way more harder, less forgiving and judgemental toward their fellow brethern. This story is unbelievably sad!!! True people who follow Jesus would NEVER EVER so call, “Cast the first stone” and “Demand a pound of their flesh” toward another believer’s fault & sin…. They would instead Pray for them, Forgive them and most importantly they would help their fallen brother or sister be completely Restored & Healed. As a pastor’s wife, I’ve seen & been through alot and I understand his wife’s hurt & pain of his betrayal but it could have been handled differently. I pray for all to heal

  • oldfatmotherfucker

    I had to come back and laugh again.

  • Aj

    his children are disgusting, they will have to live with how they treated their father as he was dying for the rest of their lives, they need to ask for forgiveness like he was trying to do!

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  • ElPrieto

    That’s funny, I don’t care who you are.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IRdw_Qgwqc ♀ L A Y L A Y ♂

    lol

  • Grace

    Why did he tell his congregation? All he had to do was confess it to God and ask his forgiveness and it would have been forgiven.

  • rainbow

    SAD

  • gscott10

    His family physically attacked him and killed him. I hope they all got tried for murder

  • bb tree

    Also Luke 13:4,5 Luke 13:4,5 – Jesus said: “Those … on whom the tower … fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men…? I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”

    0___0 bruuh its time for to go back to church lol… whoo

  • bb tree

    wow 0__0 Ananais and saphira come to mind….god is nothing to play with

  • High Five Ghost

    gotta love that!

  • BeBe

    stupid man – he should have asked God for forgiveness, his family for
    forgiveness! I think he got struck down for caring what other
    people/sinners thought of him. Not a good pastor at all – to think it
    was the place of his congregation to give him forgiveness! #lostsoul

    • attamom53

      Fo’ sho’! It’s exactly what he should have done. Surrender that thing over to the Lord. And then tell his wife. But, his wife showed that she couldn’t handle certain truths. I am not blaming the pastor’s wife for him dying, but she was wrong for talking it upon herself to tell the congregation what he did to embarrass and manipulate him into admitting that fact to their congregation. It wasn’t her decision to make. I know she was hurting, and out of her hurt, she did a malicious deed. Some of the people posting on this thread think that everyone who disagrees with what the wife did is blaming her for her husband’s death. But, I, for one, am not implying that she was at fault for the sins that her husband committed decades ago, and for her husband dying. But, the first thing that they should have done together was pray for wisdom, knowledge, and understanding on how to deal with that situation. His wife didn’t represent at all. She was selfish, and wanted to publicly humiliate the pastor and get the congregation to distrust him, and take her side.

      • PeaceCorps1

        She was in shock. It is not like it was premeditated. He cast the first stone by the adultery. Do not try to blame her or the children.

        • attamom53

          Yeah, it was premeditated too! She wanted to not only publicly her husband, but she wanted to ruin his reputation!…I understand she was angry!…But, as a woman of God, she knew that wasn’t the way to go!…And she got the kids involved too?…At church?!…And in front of the congregation?!!…Uh-uh!!…

          • PeaceCorps1

            we do not know how we would have reacted. I am NOT going to cast a stone at her.

            • attamom53

              That’s fine! But, neither should stones be cast at the pastor and his memories!…Because wrong is wrong, regardless of who is wrong!…

              • PeaceCorps1

                She reacted.

                • attamom53

                  Yes, she did reacted! I don’t know what your faith is, and it’s neither here nor there, but the Bible says that we are to ‘be ye angry, but sin not’! After he told her, that should have been something that the wife needed to pray over and disgust with her husband, and the final decision to tell the congregation about the pastor’s past infidelity should have been the pastor’s decission alone. He should not have allowed his wife to manipulate him into anything that he wasn’t ready to do!

              • PeaceCorps1

                You say she was a woman of God, but he was an ordained man of God. Hmmmm

                • attamom53

                  So!…

  • Doll Phace

    that sure is 2 different sides of the story! lort I hope the second story wasn’t true

  • Alexis Morris

    WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHY ALL OF YOU ARE BLAMING THIS MANS WIFE. SHE DID NOT MAKE HIM PULL HIS THING OUT AND PUT IN IN ANOTHER WOMAN. YALL ARE DUMB AS THE BIGGEST BAG OF ROCKS TALKING ABOUT SHE SHOULD BE FORGIVING AND NOT HAVE EMBARASSED HIM. AND TALKING ALL OF THIS STUPID STUFF ABOUT HOW WOMEN ARE SO QUICK TO BLAME MEN AND THAT’S WHY WOMEN DONT HAVE MEN. WHO IN THE WORLD WANTS A MAN THAT CANNOT CONTROL HIS THANG! THEN YES I AM GOING TO BLAME A MAN AND FIND HIM AT FAULT IF HE CANNOT CONTROL HIMSELF WHATSOEVER. INSTEAD OF TAKING THE MAN TO TASK FOR HIS BAD HABIT, YALL ARE FIGHTING OTHER WOMEN AND ALL THIS CRAZY STUFF FOR NOT KISSING THE MAN’S TAIL FOR CHEATING.

    • razorstar90

      Alexis you are 100% right. It’s sick to see that women are blamed for affairs. But if it waas the Pastor’s wife who cheated and her husband called her out and she died betcha everyone here would be saying it was “divine punishment”. Stone harlots, bla bla bla. But it
      s a man so its all “We all fall. we must forgive. God forgave him the wife should too” BULL #@$@

  • attamom53

    According to the article, it was the pastor’s wife and children that did him in. He should have told his wife from the beginning about the affair. But, the wife should have kept it private, and then the two of them coming together as one with the pastor confessing to the congregation with his wife support. The pastor’s wife should not have told the congregation about her husband, and afterwards, bullying him into confessing to the congregation. I’m not commenting that what the pastor did was okay, but what his wife and children did was not okay either!…I pray for forgiveness, and peace for the pastor, I pray that the Lord will forgive the pastor’s wife for taking her hurt and pain to the congregation, instead of to the Lord first, and I pray that the Lord will forgive his children for humiliating him causing a public scene. Because what their father did was between their parents. They should have stayed out of it, especially in public….

    • attamom53

      …And this news is old as dirt!

    • PeaceCorps1

      Maybe if he had told her at home she would have had time to process it.

      • attamom53

        Whose to comment that she wouldn’t have handled the situation the same regardless of where she was or how long it would have taken her to deliberately humiliate her husband in public for cheating on her decades ago?!

  • Zia Paul

    I can’t get over just how many are blaming the wife on this one. Her husband told her BEFORE the service. How did he expect that to play out??? He either should’ve kept his mouth shut or waited for a better time to tell her and reaped the consequences. Also, he should’ve told his wife who it was to give her closure as well. We have all of these people co-signing in here about “poor bishop” not thinking that this dude just ripped his wife’s world apart BEFORE service. Get real.

    • razorstar90

      You my friend are right on the money. The man cheats on his wife and the mother of his kids and he’s the freaking victim here.

      • LuvMyBrownSkin

        Because that’s the Christian way.

  • Aunt Ruthie

    Nothing new under the Sun. Sex is everywhere be it in church, school, the workplace, etc. People have sex with others because they want to. End of story.

  • Macy’s Mom

    Well, they said confession is good for the soul, hope it was good for his soul.

  • linacostaa

    ——>

  • Justin

    It is hilarious that when it suits them, christians talk about not judging, yet practically every minute of their lives is spent judging.
    Listen up folks: we all judge. Every single one of us judge in every single aspect of our lives.

  • Justin

    See, that’s why women should keep silent in church just as Paul said.

  • Justin

    Life is so very ironic.

  • cris2rey

    I have possible explanation why this guy is dead. 1) god wasn’t aware of his sinful past and when he heard him confessing the first time, decided to kill him at that very same time. 2) god already instructed him to keep his mouth shut about the affair and he still decide to tell everyone. 3) he’s having an illicit affair with god and putting it out to the world ended his life.

  • cris2rey

    That pretty much tells you that god (if he is real) is more incompetent than Obama and GWB combined.

  • cris2rey

    where is god when you need him?

  • Pointman #1

    Just be careful how involved you become with a church. The churches I tell everyone to be aware of are “Korean Churches,” near military bases in the USA. In a lot of cases, it’s all about money and sex.

  • nosuprise

    The Family needs help

    • PeaceCorps1

      Every family needs help. It is just that this family is in the news and ours is not.

  • honeybutter

    what is going on with church folks , as much as i love god , i see so many troubled souls trying to find gods castle , the want to go to the promise land , no one know the path though , they are lead by the evils and belief of more than one god , people worship jehova , a mouse , a buddah , a temple , the virgin mary , and a donkey .. non denominationals are prejudice too they think they are the only people going to heaven how come we have labels if we all suppose to be going to the same place .. i dont claim a religion , i love god and jesus ,so i dont feel the need to profess one religion cause that make me no better than the rest i have a relative who is baptist but she dont like other religions of people ,she dont want to congreate with them and there are those who dont want her ethrier around them .. sad we live in this kind of world people jusl hating otehrs

  • Stash Holly

    I guess God didn’t forgive as easily the affair. Sorry Bishop but I guess you got called inot the big Principals office.

  • GG EE

    It is sad and heartbreaking but I cant see why people put pastors on a pedestal they are human and fallible. They make mistakes and will disappoint you. Keep your eyes on Jesus and He will not let you down! We go to worship to worship God not the man.. This should have been a private matter handle by the elders of the church. We are to confess our sins and be kind sensitive and restore such a one in meekness and humbleness. What bible are they reading from. The anger should have been expressed in counseling. Of course feelings were hurt and hearts disappointed. Keep your eyes on Jesus because the man in the pulpit may just pull you in the pit. They are human beings and if you lift them up they become puffed up in your sight. The man had a conscience and tried to ask for forgiveness. Our righteousness and holiness is in Christ. His love covers a multitude of sin. You need to read the bible and pray for understanding. Stop being critical and harsh lest you to fall. Don t follow people because of who they say they are, follow Jesus because you know that you know he is Christ our risen Savior. God wants us to fellowship in the beauty of holiness without which no man can see God. Jesus is your righteousness and holiness in God. God assesses us on the blood of Christ and His thoughts which are always Holy. If the church keeps slaughtering the sheep they will all run away! This is a wow moment but it’s unfortunately more the norm than not! My prayer is that the God who see after me will do the same for all involved. God is not the author of confusion!! The enemy comes to kill steal and destroy. Another one bites the dust. Only what you do for Christ will last!!

  • Cici

    This should have been handled privately or at least a preplanned statement. the wife shares some responsibility in this. People put way too much into monogamy. It’s nice in theory but in reality, especially when you are talking 40+ years of marriage it is just not realistic. I don’t think any marriage can go that long and no one has a tryst or two. And I don’t think it’s the end of the world.

    • http://www.realdoll.com/ Edie the Egg Lady

      Did he get caught blowing one of his sheep?

    • Zia Paul

      How does she share any responsibility? Monogamy IS realistic, BUT only for those who are interested in being monogamous. It’s not for everyone but I do notice this practice can be hypocritical.

    • PeaceCorps1

      Yeah but Cici the fact that is was probably a church member all up in the wife’s face was too much.

    • Bodhisattva

      ON the contrary, when you say “TIL DEATH DO US PART” you’re making a promise and when you do it in a religious context (marriage, excluding ‘civil’ marriages perhaps) you’re making that promise to/in front of a higher power. This is why the divorce rate is so high – this unrealistic attitude towards marriage. If you can’t keep the promise, don’t make it. Shack up, don’t marry. I guess you see marriage as something you do with ‘Mr. Right Now”, not “Mr. Right”. My gandparents never cheated. My parents never cheated. If I marry I won’t cheat. That sort of defeats the purpose.

  • Maya

    It’s funny how stories pop back up. I so thought this was a recent article. Anyway, unfortunate situation. Hopefully, the family, the congregation, and the wife are healing.

  • Latoya

    Why do these pastors feel like they are accountable to their members? Where did that teaching come from?

    • Zia Paul

      The members take guidance and follow the pastor, so if the pastor messes up, he has to set an example and admit to his wrongs.

  • Rimothy Thickets

    “I want the picture with my wife to look like it was a screen cap from Gears of War… needs more bloom lighting”

  • Alexis Morris

    no matter what their dad did, I bet his children wish the last thing that they did with him wasn’t fighting him and pouring water on him smh.

  • KDW

    Wow! only proves that: Some things are better NOT said! I digress!!!! KDW

  • Tonibutterfly

    They kill me with this blind devotion to these men. They praise them like they are God. The Holy Spirit had enough of his foolery and took him out before another lie could come out his mouth. You can lie to all of humanity and these preacher freaks will believe it. God knows the truth. Don’t mess with Him.

  • Mr. Subspencious

    LOL. God didn’t waste his time getting him ready for judgement lol

  • john

    He should of kept that between him and God!!! That is the only one he got to answer to. Not man!!!

    • PeaceCorps1

      Especially since the Jezebel is dead.

  • xavier

    see you in heaven, dude.

  • Chrissy

    Secrets can kill you.

  • eestoomuch

    saaaad. ot? why the pastor always dark and the wife always light? First Lady is a man made title. no where in the Holy Bible as far as I know.

  • learned09

    The wife was out of place. He probably died to be rid of her. What kind of family did he have if his son attacked him and daughter attempted to drown him? If all of this is a little true one might understand the affair?

  • sam spade

    I believe The Pastor was carrying too much guilt year before his wife forgave him and we know The Lord forgives & forgets, A stupid lying ‘ accuser of the brethren spirit’ told him over & over ,,,contrary statements regarding this affair. The Lord was not behind his death. the thief got in there to make a mockery the church did not hvae to know.

  • MzGoofy

    It’s ionic, how people came on this thread to bash, but not think of the family of this man, yes he made a mistake as we all have I’m sure, but the sad part is he lived with this so deeply it killed him even in confession, whether his congregation forgave him or not, his family (Wife, children, grandchildren) suffered more from such secret, because of a man they knew to walk with God whom cancelled many followers/believers in need, who had faith/trust in him, it was not the coming out bash party, it was the coming to ask our father and those who trusted in him to forgive his wrongful doing, cause his heart could not stand the infidelity/lies he held so deep, do not pass judgement unless you are without sin, your cloth maybe just as dirty as his was, and pointing the finger!!!

  • Guest

    I’ve heard this story on here before.

  • kim

    Sin is sin, if we break one we are guilty of all. Jesus died for all us sinners, or not any of us. we are saved by mercy and grace not of works. yet those who are preachers who do not and cannot seem to lead his family should not be in the pulpit. In John Jesus when talking to his diciples said: when they asked him what must we do to be saved? Jesus said, Just believe. we are saved and sealed forever if we repent . the only unforgiveable sin is blasphemy. and in Timothy, if we choose any other gospel but the one he just preached is accursed from such turn away. the last days are upon us, and the great apostay is here full blown and many have fallen away from truth and have fallen into the ditch on the other side and become twice the sons of hell, and many do not ever find the straight way. G-d tells us if we do not receive the truth, HE will send a lie and people will believe it and have no excuse. Rev talks of the last thing of the one world gov and religion and we see it world wide..HE is coming. forgive all peole or we cannot be forgiven. doesn’t mean you hang with the world..because we choose the world or our L-rd. stay in the word, pray without ceasing and HE will be with us to the end.

  • Judy

    It’s so sad of what happen to this child of God, Christ died for our sins, we are called to strive to serve not to condemn, such a sad story!

  • Ronan WasHere O’Riley

    WELL DAMN THAT ESCALATED QUICKLY WOOOOOOOOOOOOW THAT’S CRAZY

  • The Darling Kinkshamer

    Why would he share this with the entire church? Church people are weird.

  • Shelia

    In reading all the comments and for him to do it the way it was done he either knew or felt like it was his time to go and the only way he can get forgiveness is to tell it right then because he had his chance to tell her n the family a long time ago but he didn’t. Hopefully he received what he needed from God.

  • Guest

    The boy would never have died if the trigger wasn’t pulled. It is that simple! Each person refused to hold an ounce of responsibility here and the consequenses are irreversable. They will live with that burden for the rest of their lives. I hope they learn from their actions and may justice prevail.

  • kam

    He was dead serious.

  • Fair and Balanced

    Into heaven may the angels lead him and may those who were so unwilling to forgive be able to do so.

  • chris

    that’s the same old way these old time pastors treat members who fornicate and commit adultery , so he is not above his on laws, , he needs to be expose also. He is just to ashamed that the same things he been punishing the members of the congregration for he is guilty .. hypocrite..

  • Prophetess Essie

    God is so good. Praise the LORD!!!

  • Thekissingflightattendant

    No one is perfect. No one!!!! We all sin and we all piss people off.

  • DeadRising3

    People quote bible drivel because they can’t think for themselves.

  • Anthony Washington

    Wow sad

  • youthful yvonne

    So sad.Not all truths are to be made know.Confess to God and sin no more.Man to man is too unjust.

  • janet

    He’s still a man…and ALL men and women have faults. It would not make any difference if he was a Bishop or a barber, a pastor or a plumber. And sadly, he is now deceased, and with THE ONLY ONE whose judgment actually matters.

  • YoungAfrique

    ASEM!

  • DREWDOWN0124

    Just a thought here,why is it when these so call men of GOD,do all these un GODLY things.instead of being persecuted,remove from their throne,or cast out of the house of GOD. Theyre usually promoted, forgiven immediately,or my favorite, excuse from any sin,cause their only men…But when u dnt go to church,and sin,ure deemed the worst,or the devil himself…Stay clear of tht person u saints or christens say.Now when one of ur own commit adultery or sins.its oh he’s just a man…Hmmm

  • Matthew

    When we confess our sins HE is merciful and just to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. The family handled this totally wrong before the church. There is way to confess before the church however the family has to be on one accord. At the Ruckus dude, stop using this scenario for an excuse for your reason for having a watered down relationship with Jesus. Stop it you hypocrite.

  • Caydence James

    Foolishness.

  • Beautifulnu Beginnins

    Somtimes u have to let some people b STUPID ND NOT RESPOND. BECAUSE NOONE IS PERFECT . LIKE WHO DESERVES DEATH FOR THIS. IS THIS OS THE CASE EVERYONE B DEAD FOR ONE THING OR ANOTHER BECAUSE SINNNN ISSS SINNN!!

  • PoppaSmurf

    Auntieruckus is off the chain. He has confess his sin to God, may his soul rest in Peace. See you in Paradise my brother.

  • Dee

    Not one us perfect..we have all committed a sin in this life, but God is faithful to forgive and to clean the slate without a trace if our past. But unfortunately we as ” Christians ” are fast to judge and sentence a person at a moment notice. With tat being said..his wife and family was wrong! And the guilt if the heart attack they will have to deal with for the rest of their lives.I do believe God will forgive them , but how long will it take for them to forgive themselves for such a unacceptable, un Christ like action. Once the anger dies down..the “.guilt and grief will set in. I can say this because. I was married, and cheated on. So I do understand.. but I was raised to handle those things at home and not in public. Yes it hurts.. but there is another” H” in this…..it is called “HEALING

  • a woman

    Another cheating minister. Great. There is zero excuse for this. Zero. It is controllable. Many men don’t. What none of you are thinking of is the WIFE & MEMBERS who have to deal with this fallout. He just found an easy way out.

  • nss

    oh wow, thats so sad

  • Allen Powell

    Man would you listen at you guys telling each other a piece of your mind.Listen the word let’s us know we all have come short of the glory of God.Listen,be kind and Love one another you only get one life,make it count.What you sow you must reap.So let’s all sow good so our harvest will reap good fruit.And we only have a small brain let’s keep what little piece we have instead of trying to tell someone off with it,let’s pouput it to work helping and blessing people.God is Love not a hater.

  • I_am_a_Gladiator/Scandalista

    Well damn…

  • Guest

    He asked forgiveness and the wife and daughter killed him. I hope charges are brought up against them. I don’t think they intended to kill him but I bet they we’re thinking he needed to pay. Well he paid with his life and it was because of the wife daughter and sons actions. I think they call this manslaughter or reckless homicide. The wife knew he was old and her actions could trigger his heart attack. God is good but man can be cruel. How can one say good riddance. I’m just in awe how the wife handled this.

  • Felisha Crooks-Sweet

    The man made a terrible mistake and he confessed and he is forgiven. I just wonder if the wife feel responsible for his death. It was a private matter between him her and God. 9 times out of 10 she was not going to leave him so why put him to shame in the presense of the church?

    • Fifi Laphue

      Because we women pretend too much that our husbands are decent.

  • tynieboo

    I don’t have room to judge, but from reading the comments everyone is downing the wife. He did the deed. We don’t know for how long. It doesn’t matter. Just like he was human and made a mistake and should have been forgiven, his wife should not be held at a different standard. She was hurt. Her world was shattered. Her and her children were blindsided with the news that they just heard. I guess they forgot to pray and seek guidance from God just like he did. Instead they acted like some human beings do…out of emotion. What happened was tragic but I don’t the wife should be condemned.

  • Auntieruckus

    First thank you for giving me the attention you claim that i seek,second Ill have a sit the minute you hit the gym with your real hair out,you fat fawk,woth them yellow teeth ,ugly wildebeast nobody want you,your face is a straight bone killer with that big stomach and those flabby arms bish booooooooooo, im not reading SH!t else ypu have to say,stupid c!nt i hope you choke on the next thug’s sem3n drink THAT coke you baby mama bish

    • guest

      PROOF READ MUCH???? SO GLAD MAN HAS NO HEAVEN OR HELL TO PUT ME IN. JUST COLDHEARTED!! ONE THING ABOUT MY GOD IS A FORGIVEN GOD!!! REGARDLESS TO WHAT HIS SINS WERE OR YOURS IF YOU ASKED YOU ARE FORGIVEN!!

    • rah rah

      At least she was woman enough and bold enough to use her picture!!

  • Marriages Are A Joke

    R.I.P. Pastor, maybe he shoud’ve just prayed on his sins instead of confessing. Is there a man out there who doesn’t cheat? This is why women should go with a man for money because at least you get some compensation when the bills are paid, the car is fixed, the kids go to good schools and there is food on the table. Otherwise what’s the point? Yes women cheat too but no where near the amount that men do. Men always want dirty creepy kinds of sex with multiple women or they chase teen girls young enough to be their daughters or granddaughters. All men lie & cheat! Women should get men with money so you don’t feel the cheating pain as much, shopping is a great remedy!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYRtmMxB5yw CrossWinds

    Remember Kind David……..Chastened, but forgiven. God was not unrighteous to forget all the good King David had done.

    1 Kings 15:5…….
    because David did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, and had not turned aside from anything that He commanded him all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.

    • guest

      Yes that is true but David was not excused from the consequences of his sin. His children turned against him,he was not allowed to build the temple due to him having Uriah killed, and God told him “The sword shall not depart from your house(Isreal) which is why isreal is in conflict to this day, all because of David. And so, this pastor had to deal with the consequences of his actions, and his family got angry at him and unfortunately he had a heart attack and died!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYRtmMxB5yw CrossWinds

    If Jesus died for the Sins of the Whole World, He also died for yours…….Go, and sin no more.

    1 John 2:1-2……..

    2 My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

  • J

    Seems like no one cared to see what the scriptures teach regarding this. Per the bible in the book of Titus and Timothy. Pastor /Elders/ Deacons are to be faithful to there spouse or they are disqualified from leading. In his case he should have lead in confessing to the members and stepped down. Yes he would be forgiven as a brother in the Lord but Pastor are held to a greater standard just like any other person in a high office of leadership and when they violate the standard of that office they can no longer serve in that office.

  • Shawndrea Rachelle

    Why are people making him out to be some kind of victim? I don’t get it. And all of the first lady shaming on this site and DailyMail is sad

    • Auntieruckus

      Exactly.

  • Anthonyd Smith

    The man fell short. The ones on here judging are the reason why some folks don’t want to step in a church

  • galleryshops

    Wow, God’s retribution was swift.

  • Tara Harris

    His own son probably killed him then.. ijs

  • Kish PacenFalife Shedrick

    Wooooooow!!! Not sure which version to believe!!! Either way, I hope he repented to the FATHER before he took his last breathe!!! We ALL fall short of the Glory of GOD!!! Prayers going up for all

    • whichwayisgo

      My boyfriend grew up in the church. His family was there when he passed. We heard version #2 prior to the article came out on Sunday…its very ugly. God rest his soul.

      • whichwayisgo

        coming*

  • Florida Gators Ben

    I mean no disrespect towards anyone, but we are human. Why do we think that anyone whether in church or not, is gonna be perfect? We all are tempted by something and we fall down. Drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, sex, money and so on. He didn’t kill anyone and it was not a child. So why would someone be glad he is dead? I hope some of you never have to come to my funeral because some of you really gonna fry me.

  • MsT-mac

    Wow. Just. Wow.

    • gifty m

      i will not confess my sins just to die,confession is a private matter bet you your God and the victims not the whole world. this is shaming of the pastor and he is dead, the church is destroyed

  • BentNotBroken

    Why should his affair have remained secret? Why should his wife had to deal with that knowledge and the shame and humiliation she no doubt felt in secret? Silence not only feeds infidelity, it validates it. I don’t want to have a man who lies and cheats and breaks his vows pastoring me. And let those people in the congregation who are having affairs, because trust me there are some – know that the possibility of them being caught and called out is real.

    • Auntieruckus

      If anything thats the part of thos story that pissed me off the most,they tried to insinuate that the wife brought on his heart attack by asking for a public confession,like she was supposed to smile and pretend all was perfect,like wha?! How many more men should we protect to the detriment of our feelings? Fawk that,him and that dusty church.

      • Trisha_B

        I’m just in shock by these comments b/c everyone taking up for him & excusing the cheating, but these are the same people that go in on DWade for cheating lol. Like aren’t they the same? Or is it if you have a certain title all can & will be excused? They saying this woman should have handled it properly & privately & forgiven him, but then rip Gabby apart for forgiving DWade & trying to handle her business privately? Lol I just don’t get it

  • Bernice

    “Confess your sins one to another…” comes to mind.
    Wonder what God’s message is within the timing of it all? Was He allowing him to clear his heart before calling him OR was this a measure of punishment?
    Why such recall differences within the story?
    Oh to those comparing his calling/his sins to David and others biblical leaders. There is no comparison in this sense because David and other OT did not have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit they had visits from the Spirit and prophets to direct them. There was not a written qualification as there is now! There was not a church! And there was no cleansing from Christ’s blood at their time! There is so much more to consider that ONLY God can excuse or condem!

    • PeaceCorps1

      Bernice, I DID NOT want to question or touch that –but sister I thought the same.

      If the reverend had just kept his mouth shut and died peacefully that Sunday, oh how the church would have called the home-going such a splendid occurrence.

      Makes me think twice about ever confessing in church….. Hmmm.

  • York

    Sooo….

    Ain’t nobody considering that the heart attack was caused by poor health??

    Tragic, yes, and it should have been a private matter, but people get put in situations all the time without having their heart stop….

  • IJS

    No one feels sorry for him. At least he got the chance to confesss before hs death. He could have left with it on his conscience. And hopefully the first lady will get a nice check for her heartache.

  • Bettye Neely

    Some things need to be taken to the grave. If God forgave him and he asked for that, his wife should have been the only one left and that was personal. He was not unfaithful to his kids as he was not married to them. She was wrong to make him confront that many people in a public way. We can overdo sometimes.

    • currvalicious

      True. It must’ve been weighing heavily on his heart, b/c it was in the pass & the woman according to him passed away. His wife ambushed him out of hurt & pain. It could’ve been handled differently. However, would’ve, could’ve, should’ve the man is dead now & there are no do-overs. Marriage is between two people, not the congregation. Why would she do the most when she wasn’t going to divorce him anyways. Please, bye -first lady.

      • Felisha Crooks-Sweet

        Damn! The other woman he was having an affair with passed away?? I just hope and pray that her death was from natural causes….or the wife will have something else on her hands

        • Elizabeth

          As a former Bishop’s wife one cannot know the mental and spiritual pain, hypocrisy, shame of standing before the congregation and colleagues “covering” what is inevitably going to come out. I commend the wife – I spent, to my detriment, too much time trying to cover and protect him the church and my children only to discover the depth of the affair(s) and that he never stopped. Adultery is an insidious thing and consumes its victims – my Bishop died too; both spiritually, mentally and finally physically. Pray for the wife and family YOU JUST DO NOT KNOW!!!!!

    • PeaceCorps1

      The wife was in shock that is why she did what she did.

  • rsmitty

    Wow. I wonder if he confessed because the woman has passed away that he was having an affair with.

  • Dee

    I think the church DID need to know. As the leader of the church
    it is common to confess this type of thing, step down for awhile and get counseling. The pastor normally returns when he and his family is whole again.

    • claudnc

      I agree with confessing but it sounds like it was so long ago.. he should’ve just talked to Good and other elders in the church. why rehash old indiscretions

    • Bettye Neely

      this probably happened 30 years ago. Step down? only if God said to step down. Otherwise He better handle his calling. Preach, Teach, etc. David didnt step down, Solomon did not step down, Moses did not step down. Once call by Him, you still have to do the work of the Lord. All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God according to our Bible. Peter did not step down,

    • guest6969

      People have lives outside of the church they serve. In all honesty, if it didn’t happen in front of the congregation to begin with, it was NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS to end with. I think some of you people really don’t understand what makes a great first lady of the church. It’s not about the clothes, car, persona… but she is a wife, mother, supporter & provides a united front, in the face of the world. If anything she knows first hand his medical history (hypertension, arrhythmias, etc) Her life is not perfect and neither is his. They are still people who make mistakes. They still have children who are imperfect & get into some of everything from adultry to sloth. If my minister were to try such a stunt, I’d probably ask to be excused because his forgiveness & salvation isn’t left in my hands…especially if I’m not involved by blood or marriage to the situation. Guess I’m really a firm believer of keeping home & professional life separate.

      • Lynda Boggan Williams

        Can someone tell me how did the term “First Lady” come into the church. It is not biblical….we do not recognize this is our church….a pastor is a servant for Christ and so is his wife right along with him. Pastors are due respect and so are their wives but only God can elevate….if my thinking is wrong..please be so kind to point me in the right direction in the bible.

  • Gert

    I don’t know what the wife thought she was going to get out of her actions that morning. But now you have an entire family and congregation lose someone close in their lives to foolishness. I am not condoning the Pastor’s past transgressions but I will say as a First Lady she knew better and it could have been handled properly. The old saying goes, two wrongs don’t make a right. Now she will have to live the rest of her life with guilt….
    So sad, all you can do is pray for all those involved and hope God can bring them peace and closure.

    • Trisha_B

      Why would she have guilt? She didn’t kill him. He betrayed her. his guiltiness is what killed him. He spent his life knowing that he disrespected his union & was 2 faced (preaching one thing but then acting out another) to his church

      • Gert

        If you don’t understand my statement, then there is no reason for me to answer your question…If you don’t think for one minute that she is not second guessing her decision in how she handled his past infidelity, then you have not been around many First Ladies or leadership within the church.
        Like I said before I am not condoning his behavior but if she was spiritual as she proclaimed to be in many past interviews then she would have chosen a better way in handling the situation. I am not saying that he should not have addressed the congregation…most pastors who have done so, have and they should have. But it is usually done in a better way.

        • FromUR2UB

          The article says he told his wife about the affair just before the service. Therefore, spiritual or not, she hadn’t had time to process it. If he had told her in the middle of the week, or even the day before, she likely would have handled it differently if she had time to think it over or talk to someone first. Any situation that is dealt with during the heat of anger is likely to produce some regret. It may take her some time to feel that regret because she is still in the moment of learning about the infidelity. Emotion is not rational; but I can’t fault the woman for hurting, and this shows that no matter how long a couple has been married, an infidelity is going to cause pain regardless of when it happens.

          • Gert

            I understand her hurt, but this couple both have had history of being very literal in their teachings. So for her to not excuse his behavior I found it ironic that she also did not hold the same. I don’t think it was wise for him to tell her the morning before services (if that is true, folk like to change up stories…to not make them look bad), But it still should have been handled at home and with the Elders of the Church first. Also I never understood parents who bring their children in on their marriage, especially with infidelity.

            But I understand your point

            • FromUR2UB

              I’m not familiar with the couple, so it sounds like you’re saying that she taught forgiveness in her teachings, including forgiveness for infidelity. I suppose it wasn’t easy for her to be objective when it happened to her. I’m not a fan of public airings and bringing other people into disputes either. I have never seen any good come from it. There might be the temporary satisfaction of having people rally to one’s side and hate the other person, but it does nothing to repair the dispute. Sometimes, it backfires, too.

          • Gert

            And your right, emotions will get in the way of judgement, I have been there many of times! As I’ve gotten older, I try to control that aspect of my life more…but at the end of the day we are all human.

        • Karen Williams

          AMEN!

    • Karen Williams

      So true. Her unforgiving heart resulted in his death. If she was upset over a past transgression, take it up at home.

      • trey

        Like he took it up at home when he told her in the church of his past indiscretion??? He could have waited till they got home and sorted everything out before going to church and expecting that his doormat wife would just move it along after hearing such devastating news. Not saying she handled it right, but the Bishop should have used wisdom in dealing with this issue to his wife.

      • Ash

        The wife didn’t kill him and she didn’t make him cheat. He died because everyone found out he wasn’t shxt. Dummies always blame the woman.

        • Karen Williams

          No, bitter women don’t have self control, modesty and maybe enough class to think, pray, and then react. The affair sounds like it was some time ago, the other party is dead, and it had weighed on his heart for years. He didn’t have to confess, but he loved God and his wife enough to do just that. Dummies don’t have husbands or can’t keep one because they think men are all bad and refuse to accept responsibility in their relationships.

          • Fifi Laphue

            He did not love God, he hated his wife. That kind of thing should have gone with him to his grave. Why tell her? To unleash guilt on her. Men always looking someone to blame…she did the right thing. Bet he is wishing now he had kept his lying mouth shut!

    • 9Boots

      I disagree, actually this the protocol of The New Testatment. She is not the cause of his death and only The Lord can call someone home.

    • Lexy

      We ALL sin..in one way or another…WHO ARE WE but mere mortals to wave our finger at this man. I can understand his families outrage but I totally disagree with how it was handled…This should have been between him his wife and God and if at a later date he wanted to use his story to help others it should’ve been a collective decision….this is way I go the other direction with the holier than thous’ s of the WORLD.

      • Joyce Scott

        Amen Lexy!

    • Joyce Scott

      Amen Gert!

  • Jan

    The church didn’t have to know that…. If God forgave him what else could be done

    • hi-liter

      THANK YOU!! If you believe in God, then you know HE knows your heart. I wish more church folk would realize that.

    • 9Boots

      Not true, that is the New Testatment protocol.

    • goldengrl wanda

      o are right, something you need take to your grave with just you and God to know, God forgives man has no forgiveness.

  • sheryl

    A man with a conscious. Refreshing.
    This weighed heavy on his art and soul. But if it was in the past and he asked for forgiveness from God then he didnt have to confess to the congretion. And if his wife didnt know about it, he shouldve left it in the past. Also, the wife probably wanted him to confess to the church – she wanted him to hurt the way she hurt.
    God bless his Family. Hope they have strength during this time.

    • guess

      This is old traditions in the church, when you do wrong you come before the congregation and confess and then step down for length of time. This is from the 70s and 80s church. This does not happen now to my knowledge. Some churches keep some traditions.

      • 9Boots

        Actually that protocol was set in place in the New Testatment, waaaay before 1970.

    • Guest

      If he had a conscious he would have never cheated in the first place.

      And why are you blaming this on his wife?

  • Auntieruckus

    Good riddance.

    • Rissie75

      WOW SMH…

      • Auntieruckus

        Wow what? Christianity is a joke to me and all these so called men of god (who are always up to no good) can go twirl on a pencil,you should wooow the rest of the bishes on here acting like an innocent man lost his precious life,FOH

        • bkabbagej

          He who is without sin cast the first stone! No one is infallible and no matter your title you are ONLY a man who makes mistakes and fall short. that’s what being a christian is all about, you must repent and pay for your sins but being a christian doesn’t make you sinless or perfect. As you stated “men of GOD” and any other man can be up to no good, his passing, is a living example of how one shouldn’t live and know there is a cost to speaking one way and living another, and that cost can be your life! But to blame human frailty on Christianity is just plain wrong because it’s your faith and relationship with GOD that keeps you on the straight and narrow not the what the world thinks.

          • neicey

            Amen! Very well said !

          • Billy

            Nice and well summarizes, God bless you.

          • Avril Treston

            I so totally agree.

          • Rissie75

            Thank You!!

          • Guest

            Wrong. Only those who come short from the glory of God will be forgiven which are those who just started coming to the knowledge of truth. Those who already sought for forgiveness in the past and wound up fallen away now by committing intentional sins or going astray from God’s divine commandments and the true teachings of Christ can not be forgiven. The only way a Christian can receive forgiveness is if they committed an unintentional sin that they were not aware of, for example, someone leading them astray of the true path or someone who trespass against them by leading them into sin. When a person trespass against a Christian, they are intentionally bringing them into sin. For example, an evil person would put a swine in the stew to get the Christian into eating unclean meat that is against God’s commandment. When a Christian finds out that he/she ate a swine, they would need to repent of their unintentional sin according to God’s commandments spoke about in chapter Leviticus 5 and verse Numbers 15:22-31. Even though that chapter and verse seems outdated to the world today, God’s law has never been abolished according to verse Matthew 5:17-20. However, the sacrificing of animals and ceremonial cleansing of washing for cleansing of sins has been abolished according to Chapter Hebrews 8, HEBREWS 9, and Hebrews 10. Chapter Hebrews 9 address it there. There has been a new covenant which we are now under Jesus Christ and whoever believes in him will be cleansed from their sins, but that doesn’t mean that we should go back to sinning again. After Jesus healed both the male and the female, Jesus said to both the man and the woman, “SIN NO MORE OR SOMETHING BAD WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU” according to verse John 5:14 and John 8:11. Read the whole verse John 5:1-15 and John 8:1-11.

            You just used God’s name in vain in a fruitless/pointless matter and for that, you will be held accountable for your intentional sins of purposely leading the blind astray because you chose to live unrighteously and speak unrighteously about my Holy God’s purpose for our lives. God wants us to live a holy/pure lives according to the bible which means, stay away from unclean things such as sin and the nature of sin. Christians should not be partakers of sin period! Only those that do are only serving Satan and money, not the true creator of God. I for one can judge because I do not have the speck/pluck on my eye, for I can cast the first stone because I am without sin. I am without sin because I came to God knowing that my sins were forgiving and that I should not continue to sin more if I want to enter into the Kingdom of God faithfully. I’m not a hypocrite because I stop committing sin 5 years ago, so I’m not just like everybody else. So that gives me the right to judge you according to verse Matthew 7:5 and John 8:7. I refuse to have your blood on my hands for not confronting you about this! Jesus advice to you in verse Matthew 18:6-9 says, “Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes!
            “If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be cast into the eternal fire. “If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.”

            VERSES THAT PROVES YOUR POINT WRONG:
            (Roman 2:12-13) For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified.

            (Romans 6:15-16) What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of SIN resulting in DEATH, or of OBEDIENCE to God resulting in RIGHTEOUSNESS?

            (Romans 7:12-13) So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.

            Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.

            (Hebrews 6:1-8) Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, of instruction about washings and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead and eternal judgment. And this we will do, if God permits. For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned.

            (2 Peter 2:20-22) If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.” – Proverbs 26:11

            (Hebrews 10:26-31) If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”d and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

            • Larry Manley

              To Nakita. Not some, but all have fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). Teach right now!

            • Guest

              No one has a right to judge ANYONE except for the Lord himself!! Doesn’t matter how holy you claim to be you can not take that Glory from Good! You are basically saying because you have been sin free for 5 years now that gives you the power to judge as if you were God himself! The bible also says you shouldn’t boast and you friend are boasting about yourself and bragging saying you are sin free(no one on earth is sin free) therefore giving you rights to judge people in this world and taking all the glory from God!! That in itself is a sin! Give all glory to God and stop trying to steal his light!!!! P.S. anyone can post a bunch of scripture and call themselves holy/Christians!!

              • Nakita (Jesus is the only way)

                Whatever you hypocrite. You say I should not judge, but yet you’re judging me, which proves my point right.

                Anti-law and anti-Christ indeed!

              • Am the Israelite

                1
                Corinthians 2:15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

              • Wisdom Understanding

                Lol yeah that guy is lost in a serious way. It’s not even funny really. But we reap what we sow. I had to learn some harsh realities about myself. Anyone who does such things pays for them severely. Only when we realize how full of sin we really are can we realize that we truly can’t say anything about anyone. So I ask God to forgive me if I judge someone else. And I ask him to cleanse me of all my unrighteous behavior.

                • Dee

                  Praise God He has forgiven us of all sins…past, present and future!

              • Elder Harry L. Jackson

                No one on this planet has EVER been sin-free for five whole years, except JESUS, It doesn’t matter how saved they think they are. You may not drink, smoke and go to the club, but what about that junk in some folks’ hearts. It’s the outwardly clean folks that seem to walk in the most pride, and are the most apt to force the Law down their fellow believer’s throats. Return to the altar. Directly to the altar. Do not pass GO. Do not collect…

            • khadija

              YOU are misleading ppl jesus died for all of our sins not just the accidental ones, thats like saying only perfect ppl will be permited to see the pearly gates … keep tryin

              • Terrorinyourheart

                How could one man die for all of our sins does that include those that molest children as well specially when they represent the church.

                • Wisdom Understanding

                  The same way one man caused sin to enter the world. Sin was taken away in the same manner. By one man. The Son of God. Sin entered the world through Adam, and sin was taken out of the world by the second Adam or Christ.

            • Russell Webster Andrews

              your just another reason i can’t stand “Sunday Christians”

            • Macy’s Mom

              When we all get to Heaven hope we see you there.

            • Wisdom Understanding

              You my friend have no idea what you’re talking about and are completely clueless about the meaning of salvation. You better pray for understanding and wisdom because you have no idea what you’re talking about. I guarantee you you are 100 % wrong and should reevaluate your beliefs before you become hardened.

            • copy prince

              You are totally an uninformed person and know nothing about the Bible. Jesus died for all sins, their is no sin that is not forgiven, no matter who or when…..A christian can also eat any meat they want, even swine. God reprimanded for saying otherwise.

            • Conh Flama

              these people dont read the bible…all you did was make people skip over all you said. the want to go to church, listen to inspirational sayings, hear some good music, and see inspirational posts on facebook..NOT read the bible. You must be one of Jehovahs witessses if youre actually trying to teach and preach the bible. If youre not, you better or then you might as well give up thinking you can keep hanging witth these church folk and read the bible, because none of them read. All reading the bible is going to do, is make you frustrated because they all, INCLUDING THE PASTOR, dont know the bible.

          • Nakita (Jesus is the only way)

            Wrong. Only those who come short from the glory of God will be forgiven which are those who just started coming to the knowledge of truth. Those who already sought for forgiveness in the past and wound up fallen away now by committing intentional sins or going astray from God’s divine commandments and the true teachings of Christ can not be forgiven. The only way a Christian can receive forgiveness is if they committed an unintentional sin that they were not aware of, for example, someone leading them astray of the true path or someone who trespass against them by leading them into sin. When a person trespass against a Christian, they are intentionally bringing them into sin. For example, an evil person would put a swine in the stew to get the Christian into eating unclean meat that is against God’s commandment. When a Christian finds out that he/she ate a swine, they would need to repent of their unintentional sin according to God’s commandments spoke about in chapter Leviticus 5 and verse Numbers 15:22-31. Even though that chapter and verse seems outdated to the world today, God’s law has never been abolished according to verse Matthew 5:17-20. However, the sacrificing of animals and ceremonial cleansing of washing for cleansing of sins has been abolished according to Chapter Hebrews 8, HEBREWS 9, and Hebrews 10. Chapter Hebrews 9 address it there. There has been a new covenant which we are now under Jesus Christ and whoever believes in him will be cleansed from their sins, but that doesn’t mean that we should go back to sinning again. After Jesus healed both the male and the female, Jesus said to both the man and the woman, “SIN NO MORE OR SOMETHING BAD WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU” according to verse John 5:14 and John 8:11. Read the whole verse John 5:1-15 and John 8:1-11.

            You just used God’s name in vain in a fruitless/pointless matter and for that, you will be held accountable for your intentional sins of purposely leading the blind astray because you chose to live unrighteously and speak unrighteously about my Holy God’s purpose for our lives. God wants us to live a holy/pure lives according to the bible which means, stay away from unclean things such as sin and the nature of sin. Christians should not be partakers of sin period! Only those that do are only serving Satan and money, not the true creator of God. I for one can judge because I do not have the speck/pluck on my eye, for I can cast the first stone because I am without sin. I am without sin because I came to God knowing that my sins were forgiving and that I should not continue to sin more if I want to enter into the Kingdom of God faithfully. I’m not a hypocrite because I stop committing sin 5 years ago, so I’m not just like everybody else. So that gives me the right to judge you according to verse Matthew 7:5 and John 8:7. I refuse to have your blood on my hands for not confronting you about this! Jesus advice to you in verse Matthew 18:6-9 says, “Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes!
            “If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be cast into the eternal fire. “If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell.”

            VERSES THAT PROVES YOUR POINT WRONG:
            (Roman 2:12-13) For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified.

            (Romans 6:15-16) What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of SIN resulting in DEATH, or of OBEDIENCE to God resulting in RIGHTEOUSNESS?

            (Romans 7:12-13) So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.

            Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.

            (Hebrews 6:1-8) Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, of instruction about washings and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead and eternal judgment. And this we will do, if God permits. For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned.

            (2 Peter 2:20-22) If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.” – Proverbs 26:11

            (Hebrews 10:26-31) If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”d and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

            • Faithy757

              Nakita we are not under law that’s first, we are under grace. Galatians 3 chapter tells us that Christ didn’t come to do away with the law but to fore fill it. In other words Christ is law to those that follow Him.

              • Nakita (Jesus is the only way)

                You’re just using God’s name in vain. You are suppose to bear fruit! If it’s that easy to get into the Kingdom of God, than everyone would want to believe, but since your theory bears no power/sacrifice, your belief becomes futile. You can’t fool me. I have read my bible. You’re just a wolf and a anti-Christ in sheeps clothing just like everyone else who falsely misuses or denies Christ name and God’s law.

                • Danonamus1

                  God doesnt forgive for intentional sins? Ms Nakita, I can assure you that if God does not forgive intentional sin, then there is no hope for any of us. We all have sinned intentionally. Was not David’s sin of adultery with Bathsheba an intentional sin? God forgave David (2 Samuel 12:13; Psalm 32:5),he did not lose his salvation, and he became known as a “man after Gods own Heart”. Were not the sins of ancient Israel intentional/deliberate? Yet, God called them to return to Him and He forgave their sins (Hosea 14:1-4). Peter, in lying to the women around the fire, sinned deliberately (Mark 14:66-72). Christ forgave his sin (John 21:15-21) and Peter became a great person in the early church. Even the heinous sins of wicked king Manasseh, who caused the people to do more evil than the evil nations that were in the land before Israel, and who though warned by God persisted in his sin (2 Chronicles 33:1-10); even he was forgiven (2 Chronicles 33:12-13). And even the prodigal son in Luke 15:11-32 certainly sinned willfully. Yet, Jesus drives home the point in the parable that when the son returned to his father, he was readily forgiven. We have all been prodigal sons, in need of the forgiveness of the Father. And those who think that they have not sinned deliberately and have no need to return to the Father simply are in error. Even the Apostle Paul speaks of “a thorn in his flesh”, and doing the things that he doesnt want to do,yet not doing the things he knows he should do, and if anyone could have boasted, it certainly would have been Paul! It seems that you are linking the Old Testament concept of the sin through ignorance (Numbers 15:24-29) and the sin with a high hand, sometimes translated as intentional sin (Numbers 15:30) and the passage in Hebrews 10:26-31, where we are told that those who sin willfully have no more offering for sin, but a certain fearful apprehension of judgment. Notice, however, neither the Hebrews passage nor the Numbers passage state directly that there is no forgiveness for deliberate sins. There was no sacrifice in the Old Testament for sins of the high hand. The only one who the Bible tells us sinned with the high hand was King Manasseh, who had a very Godly dad, who was warned by God’s prophets against his sin, and yet deliberately sinned more and more, doing horrific things. Yet, when he turned to God, God forgave him. The only sin that the bible says is unforgivable/unpardonable according to the teachings of Jesus is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 12:31) All other sins can be forgiven according to Jesus. I do not know of a person who has not at one time or another knew that God wanted them to do one thing, and they chose not to do it. Is not this deliberately turning one’s back on God? Yet, we all have experienced His incredible mercy and forgiveness. However that does not excuse us from the consequences of our sins be it intentional or unintentional. King David was not allowed to build the temple due to him having Bathsheba’ s husband Uriah killed not to mention, Davids children turned against him and caused him to go into hiding because they were trying to kill him, Tamar was raped by her brother(Davids son) and “the sword has not and will not depart from the House of David”(Isreal) which is why Isreal is still in conflict to this day, all of the aforementioned are consequences of Davids intentional sin!

                  • Nakita Benjamin

                    The difference between David and many reckless so called Christians these days is that David was truly in guilt of what he had done that he no longer sinned against God ever again due to his repentant heart. David obey all God’s orders then till the end. However, before David was forgiven by God (which David had to go through serious measures just to be forgiven by God so that God won’t kill his baby), the consequences of his evil actions was losing his child. God killed his baby because David sinned against God, that was his punishment (which was a curse). Peter had doubt issues, he never sinned, but had lack of faith in Christ the Messiah’s power that comes from God (Peter did not doubt in God, but in Christ for the work he was doing under God, his Heavenly Father) which Jesus rebuke Peter for many times. Peter end up disowning Jesus when he denied him 3 times. He abandoned Jesus because he was too much of a coward to stand by Jesus when he was about to get killed. However, Jesus forgave him after he died because Peter was remorseful that Jesus gave Peter (a another chance) the authority to lead his sheep meaning his disciples who lack a Shepherd since Jesus died. All the people you mentioned did not constantly keep sinning then repenting; sinning then repenting by repeating the whole (never ending; repetitive cycle) process time and time again, but have turn away from their sins completely because they know that if they keep on sinning, they will be under God’s curse. Once a person is under God’s curse, but still keeps on sinning, then death will come to them due to sin and due to the curses/plagues (as a result of sin). Their sins will remain on them forever if they die in their sins. For verse James 1:13-15 says, “When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.”

                    Like Paul says, “land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned.” For that’s why Jesus says, ‘produce fruit in keeping with repentance’ which means bring forth good fruits meet for/that proves your repentance. A good tree must only produce good fruit, not bad fruit.

                    What happens when a baptized believer disobeys God? They will become cursed.
                    To learn about curses and plagues, read chapter Deuteronomy 28 as well as chapter Leviticus 26 on “Curses for Disobedience” (Deuteronomy 28:15-68) and “Punishment for Disobedience” (Leviticus 26:14-46).

                    Warning verses: Deuteronomy 4:2, Deuteronomy 12:32, Proverbs 30:6 and Revelation 22:18-19.

              • Nakita (Jesus is the only way)

                You’re just using God’s name in vain. You are suppose to bear fruit! If you do not bear fruit, Jesus said he will cut off every branch in him that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.

                If it’s that easy to get into the Kingdom of God, than everyone would want to believe, but since your theory bears no power/sacrifice, your belief becomes futile. You can’t fool me.
                I have read my bible, you haven’t, and even if you say you have, you denied the bible and choose to follow a another gospel outside of the bible that your itching ears want to hear. There is only one gospel and what I am saying bears good fruit.

              • Nakita (Jesus is the only way)

                Read verse Luke 6:43-45 and verse 1 John 3:4-10. You will see that we must bear good fruit.

                • Wal

                  9To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10“Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

                  13“But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

                  14“I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

                  • Elder Harry L. Jackson

                    …and THERE is your answer, right there.

            • George

              Isn’t God infinitely merciful; mercy without measure; mercy without end. As you turn to him doesn’t he run to you.Even should you turn from him doesn’t he walk with you, for what mother does not worry and wait with ready forgiveness for her wayward child; how much more so of an all power all knowing parent.

              Leave the fire and brimstone alone. God is not the author of fear, so neither should you be.

            • DmannaGod

              God doesnt forgive for intentional sins? My Sister, I can assure you that if God does not forgive intentional sin, then there is no hope for any of us. We all have sinned intentionally. Was not David’s sin of adultery with Bathsheba an intentional sin? God forgave David (2 Samuel 12:13; Psalm 32:5),he did not lose his salvation, and he became known as a “man after Gods own Heart”. Were not the sins of ancient Israel intentional/deliberate? Yet, God called them to return to Him and He forgave their sins (Hosea 14:1-4). Peter, in lying to the women around the fire, sinned deliberately (Mark 14:66-72). Christ forgave his sin (John 21:15-21) and Peter became a great person in the early church. Even the heinous sins of wicked king Manasseh, who caused the people to do more evil than the evil nations that were in the land before Israel, and who though warned by God persisted in his sin (2 Chronicles 33:1-10); even he was forgiven (2 Chronicles 33:12-13). And even the prodigal son in Luke 15:11-32 certainly sinned willfully. Yet, Jesus drives home the point in the parable that when the son returned to his father, he was readily forgiven. We have all been prodigal sons, in need of the forgiveness of the Father. And those who think that they have not sinned deliberately and have no need to return to the Father simply are in error. Even the Apostle Paul speaks of “a thorn in his flesh”, and doing the things that he doesnt want to do,yet not doing the things he knows he should do, and if anyone could have boasted, it certainly would have been Paul! It seems that you are linking the Old Testament concept of the sin through ignorance (Numbers 15:24-29) and the sin with a high hand, sometimes translated as intentional sin (Numbers 15:30) and the passage in Hebrews 10:26-31, where we are told that those who sin willfully have no more offering for sin, but a certain fearful apprehension of judgment. Notice, however, neither the Hebrews passage nor the Numbers passage state directly that there is no forgiveness for deliberate sins. There was no sacrifice in the Old Testament for sins of the high hand. The only one who the Bible tells us sinned with the high hand was King Manasseh, who had a very Godly dad, who was warned by God’s prophets against his sin, and yet deliberately sinned more and more, doing horrific things. Yet, when he turned to God, God forgave him. The only sin that the bible says is unforgivable/unpardonable according to the teachings of Jesus is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 12:31) All other sins can be forgiven according to Jesus. I do not know of a person who has not at one time or another knew that God wanted them to do one thing, and they chose not to do it. Is not this deliberately turning one’s back on God? Yet, we all have experienced His incredible mercy and forgiveness. However that does not excuse us from the consequences of our sins be it intentional or unintentional. King David was not allowed to build the temple due to him having Bathsheba’ s husband Uriah killed not to mention, Davids children turned against him and caused him to go into hiding because they were trying to kill him, Tamar was raped by her brother(Davids son) and “the sword has not and will not depart from the House of David”(Isreal) which is why Isreal is still in conflict to this day, all of the aforementioned are consequences of Davids intentional sin!

          • kelly

            You said it perfectly

          • Conh Flama

            he who is without sin cast the first stone, is not a biblical statement and if you look it up, only SOME bibles have it. stop assuming the bible from king james was the greatest bible translation ever made and most accurate, because it is from england. England had bibles befor and after it that were made, and so has the united states. bibles that were not dictated by a King with powers telling people what should and shouldnt be in the bible. just because a particular translation is popular to americans doesnt mean it is the best. keep in mind the bible wasnt written in english at all.

        • unque43

          Men of God, They are not God, we all are children of God. God forgives. We all are forgiven by the Lord. It does not matter what you think. He wanted to ask for forgiveness. Some wouldn’t care. Christianity is made made. What would Jesus say to this man. He has forgiven him of his transgressions, as we all are when we ask for forgiveness. I pray you never do anything that needs forgiving. He was not innocent of his action but he asked for forgiveness.

        • Guest6969

          It’s not about religion… and all life is precious. But I wouldn’t say good riddance. Worst case scenario, this article is a warning that cardiovascular health is important & overlooked. Heart attacks are both serious and a painful way to go & with just burying the late great Henry Hanq Neal excellent minister of music to 3 family members to heart attack. Look beyond the man & see the message. Here is a family who has lost their patriarch & a congregation who lost their spiritual leader…regardless of his flaws, I’m sure he did some good in his time…. Just try to do some good yourself…

          • Auntieruckus

            Fair enough.

        • Avril Treston

          He is human first, no man is perfect but GOD. The bible states, “he that is without sin cast the first stone”. First of we all have to find Jesus for our selves, and stop blaming pastors and other Christians. They are going fall and mess up but its how we get up and move on from there. Once you know God for yourself, live accordingly and don’t watch others but pray for others, the road is not easy but because we have a Great Source to lean on that’s what makes the difference.

          The pastor is human and if asked God for forgiveness, and moved on from it all is well.

        • gigigigi

          Hey no ones perfect! At least he owned up to his mistake. Get a heart!!

        • Rissie75

          Welp, they have explained what the WOW was for…#BYE

    • Gail Jackson

      Are you serious? A life is gone, and you say good riddance, you’re a very cold hearted being. The man was human, and humans make mistakes don’t we?

      • Auntieruckus

        Nope

    • Tee dun

      Who that is without sin cast the first stone. Only GOD !!!!! can judge so to all u people who tryin to judge this man take a look at yourself. Do u have sin in your life and if u do sit down and SHUT UP !!!!!!!

      • Tee dun

        There is no sin greater than the other so if, u told a lie takin something that’s not yours cheated on your husband or wife had sex with someone and not married to that person etc. U have sin in your life. So don’t judge this man he could have already made his peace with GOD !!! SO WHO R U TO TALK BAD ABOUT THIS MAN AND JUDGE HIM if GOD CAN FORGIVE THIS MAN WHO R U TO HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY !!!!

      • FromUR2UB

        This is the third or fourth time I’ve seen that verse on this thread. I’m sure there are other verses that mean the same thing. I just wish the bible quoters would learn a new one so that you have a little variety in saying it, please.

    • I_am_a_Gladiator/Scandalista

      Really?

    • MS HARRIET

      YES INDEED!!! WE ARE FOOLED EVERYDAY OF OUR LIVES! EVEN WITH YO IMMEDIATE “FAMILY” EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE OUT TO GET YA! LOOK OUT FOR SO-CALL FRIENDS TOO!! THEY ARE PLOTTING ON YOU!! HE DID CAST THE FIRST STONE,”R.I.P.”

    • Dee

      Really glad Jesus didn’t say good riddance! Instead He forgave…and died for us all. He who is without sin….oh wait…that is none of us!!!

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  • uniquefashionista

    Wow! What a horrible, unfortunate story. I hope this church can heal from this.

    • khadija

      soo did this happen a year ago or nah

      • uniquefashionista

        Yes, it happened in March of 2014.

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    • Terrorinyourheart

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    • cris2rey

      i will never heal from this. he is already asking for forgiveness and god decided to teach him a lesson. I will never confess to anyone in light of this new development.

      • John Tomas

        It happened at that time with a good purpose.. Some mistakes can happen again, so life went off just after being healed and relief. The other good lesson is apparently, anyone there will not dare do the same fault coz it will ruin your life. But indeed he repented and so he is now in our father’s hand/home in heaven…

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