I Gave My Daughter A Ghetto Name And I Regret It

November 8, 2013 ‐ By Madame Noire
Gave My Daughter A Ghetto Name

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From MommyNoire

Many moons ago, when I was pregnant teenager and totally clueless about how the world works, I gave my daughter what is now considered an ethnic name (I think this is a politically correct way of saying “ghetto name”, but whatever). Recently, a young biracial woman living in Kansas City, where there is a relatively small population of black people, decided to change her name from the Keisha to the more ethnically neutral name, Kylie. She was bullied because of her name and she said the name just didn’t ever feel right to her.

After reading story, I thought about how I have long regretted giving my daughter an ethnic name. Not because it would allow others to immediately classify her by race – I have no issue with that. My concern is that I may have possibly given her a name that is deemed ghetto.  I have to wonder if giving her this unconventional name, have I set her up for another unnecessary stigma? I would hope not, but given the reality of racial bias in this country, it does concern me.  There is also research to support that job applicants with a black sounding name are less likely to get a call back.

My daughter’s name is Qui Ante’ (pronounced Kee-on-tay). It means brave warrior and is also a combination of my name and her dad’s name. For my moms who are also wine aficionados, you’ll notice it is very similar to Chianti. I assure you, that  part is purely coincidental.

When I gave my daughter her name, I honestly wasn’t thinking about how it would look on a resume.  I was 17 and wanted something unique that had meaning and a little pizzazz. Like my name, Diamonte,  which means diamond in Spanish. Needless to say, her name has that in spades. At the time, it sounded cute, so I went with it. When I got older, and the bias in the world became more apparent to me, I began to feel a sense of regret and began researching the name change process. I haven’t done anything with the information because I felt it something she should decide for herself, but I still wanted to know what options would be available to her should the time come where she needs to change it.

If she ever decides to change her birth name,  she would always be known to family and friends as Qui Qui. But, when she applies for a job, the resume would reflect a more ethnically neutral name like Quinn. This is actually the name I started to give her and decided not to. But like they say, hindsight is 20/20.

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  • Whitly

    Alright, you feel that you gave your daughter a ghetto name but in all honesty it isn’t. I am from Kansas city born and raised and you opinion that black is the minority is actually quite wrong I know more Hispanic and black than that of my own race, also a name is in no definition ghetto and, no her name will not make her who she is and, if YOU allow her to be defined for her name YOU are to blame. Allow her to love her name and allow her make the difference and become someone great!

  • Quinn Degreebound Stafford

    My given name is very ethnic. When I was born in the 70′s to a young 17 year old single mother, it was the thing to do. The area which I lived most of the little girls growing up with me all had similar names as well as unique as far the society would view. As I grew older I started to realize that my name was more of a hindrance to me than something to be held and said with pride. When I went away to a state college (predominantly white), this issue of my ethnic name became quite clear. The white students would purposely say my name incorrectly just so that they could get me to say it over and over again so that they could make fun of me. Being a high spirited black girl from the “hood” I wasn’t having that at all so I quickly changed that situation. Needless to say that I only spent one year at that particular college. Then I came home enrolled in a technical school got a 2 year degree and started my road to finding a job after graduation. I was so excited about finding a job in the field I had just graduated from and I couldn’t wait to get behind my own desk and start doing reports and answering phones (I was so young). LOL The first 3 months after graduation I sent out over a Thousand resume’s and I just knew that I would be getting a call from one of the companies that I applied to. But, no that just didn’t happen. I couldn’t figure out what the problem was, until I went back to the school that I had graduated from and talked to the career counselor and she told me something that would change my life for ever. She told me that as long as I continued to use my birth name that I would never be taken seriously by Corporate America. She asked me what I would be willing to do to get the job that was meant for me because of my skills and I asked her what did I need to do. She told me that I needed to change my name. I couldn’t believe what she was saying to me. She explained that young women with my type of ethnic name was always stereotyped by human resources when our resume’s came across their desk. I have to say that my feelings were hurt and I felt that they were not just judging me that they were also judging my mother as well. But I knew that I needed a job and wanted to do the work that I was trained to do. So I decided to shorten my name. I redid my resume’s with the shorten name and same credentials and low and behold I received calls from all of the places that I desired to work. The reason was that my name was more main stream (white). I went from being Quinanda to Quinn and I was instantly employable. It would amaze interviewer when I would enter their office for my scheduled interview and they would instantly realize that I wasn’t male and I wasn’t white. LOL Some would have me fill out the job application right there while in their office and when I entered my birth name on the application they would look puzzled and ask me to pronounce it and I did so gladly. They would all say the same thing, “Oh that’s beautiful” or ” Oh wow, that’s different”. But my favorite would always be “So what does that mean”. LOL. I was always happy to explain, but after a while it started to become a novelty that soon began to wear off. I just wanted the job. Then I got even smarter and just started writing Quinn on the application and it didn’t make a difference because as long as my social security number was correct that’s all that mattered. That was so long ago and I no longer work for Corporate America. I have an 18 year old son who was given a family name that carried no stigma’s or stereotypes connected to it. I didn’t want him to grow up with the same issues I did and I didn’t want him labeled before he had a chance to become who he is today. There’s nothing wrong with ethnic names just as long as you don’t go overboard with them and remember that if your child doesn’t plan on opening his/her own business or becoming a doctor you should go easy on the uniqueness of their name. It could be a hindrance for them somewhere down the road.

  • erick

    Black people seriously need to chill with the names. Yes, be creative with names but that doesnt mean to be stupid about it.

  • Laura Richardson

    The name will no longer be an issue as race is requested via internet questionnaire. The potential employer knows the race before they even see the face; regardless of the name.

    • me

      But names do carry an image (to some degree) If I mention people named Elenore, or Britney, you think Elenore is probably older. Bucky and MaryJoe sound a bit lower class than John, or Elisabeth. I don’t mind names that reflect culture, but names are getting silly – that goes for every race out there!

  • Black woman named Rebecca

    What I don’t like is people putting a personality behind a name when that may not be the case.
    Give people a CHANCE to offend and disappoint you. But don’t start off thinking that they will.
    People should name their children what they like; all I have a problem with is people not putting any thought behind a child’s name.
    This child in question, her name has a meaning. And that’s great.

  • Alejandro

    Sorry for my crappy english, but being a 23 years old, white man from venezuela (latin america), im absolutely and 100% sure that DIAMONTE doesnt mean diamond in spanish, the right word is -Diamante- (pronounced Dee-aman-tay)

  • Kristen

    I honestly don’t give a F what people name their children. As for me, when I decide to have and ultimately name my kids, they’ll have an established name with an appropriate meaning – no matter what culture it comes from.

    This is the only thing that made me scratch my head in the article: “My daughter’s name is Qui Ante’ (pronounced Kee-on-tay). It means brave warrior and is also a combination of my name and her dad’s name.”

    I think she REALLY means that FIRST it’s a combination of the parents’ names and later on she found out that it means something else in another culture. But, she doesn’t say what culture the name comes from, which makes me not want to take her seriously.

  • KeepingItReal

    Black people are truly the dumbest race of people on the face of the earth. All names…at one point…were made up. There is no such thing as a “ghetto name”. What you are saying is a name that “sounds like it belongs to an African American”. So…this isn’t about the name…it’s about the race of people. Stop using the excuse of “names on job applications”. When the interviewer sees you…they still see a black face. Deal with the real issue and stop getting distracted. Black people have been distracted for 400+ years now. Enough is Enough.

    • Brian Bradford

      There is a difference between “sounds like an african american” opposed to “sounds like some ghetto kid”

      A male named lets say terrell (a black name) would have a better chance of landing a job at a big company then lets say a male named (and these are real names) “Dafinest” or “JerMajesty”

      I sure as hell wouldn’t want to hire somebody named “JerMajesty” to work with clients and such but I would hire a Terrell if he had the right credentials.

      So yea it is about the name some times.

      • KamJos

        If JerMajesty could do the job well why wouldn’t you hire him? That makes no sense. You hire the person that can do the job.

        • Brian Bradford

          I sure wouldn’t want “DaFinest” to be the one introducing himself to give a presentation to big client, people forget that in some job fields its no only your job skills but the impression somebody will make on others. Just like a business man who is great at what he does wont get very far if he wears a dirty wife beater and sweat pants to his job. Why? Because like it or not first impressions make a HUGE difference on how well people receive you. While you cant change how others would view somebody you can control who is given the position to make said first impression.

          Like it or not, right or wrong its how the world is.

    • KamJos

      Bunch of Negropean-Americans is what they are, I think it’s far too late. Black people are going to be in a world of hurt in this country in the future because they refuse to wake up.

  • startsomewhere

    Would it be meaningless to say, that unfortunately people are being judged by their first and last names world wide. I cant wait for the younger generation to raid the corporate world and focus on what really matter besides names. I do think they have a bigger tolerance for ethnic backgrounds and cultures, including the names that come with it. You can be an african named Quinn, but if your last name sounds too african you still might be booted. You can be called Mohammed Kennedy, and your first name will still be judged.
    I personally never judged by a name, it always gave me more curiosity about someones background and origin. If she is grown, and prefers to be called Quinn on the work floor, Fine why not, thats ur calling name. You have to draw a line somewhere and not assume for the worst and claim what is giving to you.

  • Abbas BAKER

    Black people are the enemies of themselves.

  • jasmine

    Mathew k. changed michelle real name from destiny child to to michelle. he said her real name I ghetto like beyonce not a getto name

    • Drew

      What the hell did you write???

  • jasmine

    whites,latinas and Asian name there kids ethinc or ghetto names,

  • Secret

    change it, plain and simple get her dad to sign the dotted line and change it. Allow her to help you pick a name…if she wants.

  • NotNamingNames

    I’m not sure the author still has a full understanding of how the world works. Firstly “ethinic” and “ghetto” is not the same thing. They are two different things and should not be used interchangeably. The name she gave her daughter she said means ” brave warrior” but it was a combination of names. Really? I can tell you right now if you trust the internet or the name meaning dictionary about the meaning and history of name that it is probably wrong. If you wanted to give your child an ethnic name then do some research. If the name is from a specific culture then you should talk to several people from that cultural and even utilize a cultural society or organization to verify the meaning. I personally believe that a name has a soul, it has its own spirit. If you give your child a name you “made up” that doesn’t have any significance you will see exactly what is going on now: Kids with made up names like “Aquanettkashia” or “D’amondall” and “Kay-eeshun” running around acting like fools. Names without a meaning leave a child with nothing to connect to, no history, and with a pseudo ethnic name that becomes a joke. I was born during the pro-Black moment and my parents didn’t want to give me a Eurocentric name or a pseudo African name. Through reasearch she found a Swahili name that originates from Kenya. Growing up people made from of my name, but because I was taught where my names came from and I was proud, I pushed back on anyone who had jokes. I was taught very on that people will need to learn how to say my name and not shorten it to a nickname. I figured if the names of the Olympic Russian gymnast can be pronounced correctly, then my 3 syllabel name should be easy. Of course people instantly assume I’m Black after seeing me resume but there are other ways you can be discriminated against in HR like zip code discrimination. Now that we live in a global economy through the internet, I was able to do additional research to find that there is a school and college in Nairobi, Kenya that shares my name. It also has a meaning in Hawaiian as well. It doesn’t matter if you name your son Matthew, Musa, Mateo or Madison, Mandisa, or Magdelena for a girl – Give your child a name with meaning, history, soul, and spirit. More importantly, teach them to be proud.

  • goest973

    This is funny. There is nothing wrong with admitting, and correcting one’s mistake. This is to be praised.
    There is also nothing wrong with “ethnic” names. Please notice I said ethnic, and not hoodrat names. Too many of our people are willing to bury their heads in the sand, and pretend that hoodrat behavior, and names don’t exist. This is not to be associated with being black.
    Black, and hoodrat are not the same things. Black is African in the most basic way, and something that one should be very proud of.
    The fact is if as a people we truly care about our culture, and heritage we would be choosing traditional African names.
    Reality is we live in an English country so your choice of name comes down to either English or African if you care about our culture. Not perceived French or some other cute names made up by ignorant kids.
    The interesting thing is that the people with names like bonquesha or similar names are most likely to tease someone that has a true African name. Now the question begs; who is more proud of their culture? Would that be bonquesha, who may also happen to think the African is too dark skin, and have a funny name, which happens to have real meaning?
    We as a people have become so politically correct, it is not funny. We lie so much now, we cant even admit that some things make no sense. Almost every ethnic group can say they have others in their group they don’t agree with. However we have this group think where decent people should not critique bad choices. It does not mean they are pro white, or anti black.

  • Kenneth McGrath

    Ummm… I’m from Canada so maybe I have some kind of a different perspective on this but isn’t the real problem the racist attitudes people have when they pre-judge someone based on their name? Isn’t that the very definition of prejudice?! I don’t think anyone should ever have to worry about choosing a child’s name based on some fear of racist discrimination. I think they should, instead, focus on eliminating racist discrimination. Peace.

    • KeepingItReal

      Thank you!!! Black people are so stupid and misguided…that very concept is lost on them. So, they focus on giving their black kids “white names”….sending them to predominately white schools…marrying white spouses so their kids can have lighter skin and “hair like white people” etc. This is the mindset of African Americans. Real talk.

  • isaywhatiwant

    its her child if she wants to change that jacked up name so be it i wouldnt even know how to pronounce it if she didnt spell it out the easy way. i dont understand why people do that to their kids thats just mean. people have lost their minds saying there is no such thing as a ghetto name if your named after any type of anticeptic, alcholol, cartoon, cooking ingredient your most likely in the ghetto name category… just my opinion were all entitiled to one right? haha

  • CocoaDough

    Hoodrats doing what hoodrats do best. Sad thing is it’s now “rewarded” to get pregant as a black teen. You get goverement assitance and you get to name your child a fu^cked up name!!

  • HotJupiter

    There is always a conundrum when it comes to “ethnic” names in the workplace. First, what SHOULD be and what is are 2 totally different things. We SHOULD be able to have the ability to name our children whatever we’d like without fear of discrimination, but we ARE subject to discrimination and predjudice because of the current state of the country we reside in. Having said that, I will never insult someone based on their preference for naming their child but would implore anyone that seeks out creative names to arm their child with the ethics and values that the child will need to work hard to break those barriers down in their adult years. No one ever said being different or going against the norm was easy but it is necessary to shift cultural norms and allow for further progression.

  • GymJunkie43

    A. Can someone please show me the infamous book, these women are referring to when they name their child something hood-crazy?! B. The HR person looking at your passport is the only person who will ever see your government name so poor Qui’ante can put Annie or Tina on her resume.

  • None

    This comment section is full of “educated” idiots with poor crammer.

    • Judi Lauren

      You must mean GRAMMAR.. some of those educated idiots might not understand you…lol

  • L.Harris

    You are setting a bad example for your child.You are reinforcing insecurity.You are teaching her that public perception and political correctness in the eyes of white folks is what is most important..Why would you do that to a child. You need to teach her to hold her head up and walk with pride…learn all that she can and know that..You are proud of her and her name…or are you ?

  • CT

    I have a family member who recently had a little girl. The father wanted the child named after him and suggested a 3 syllable name off of his name. The mom took a piece of paper and said to her husband “you know what will happen when she goes on a interview and they look at her name?” – and then proceeded to throw the paper in the trash. “That’s whats going to happen”. He thought about it and agreed, they gave the baby a cute gender-neutral name. Don’t feel bad for the husband though, their son is a Jr.

  • http://thegameonbetblog.tumblr.com/ The Game Fan

    Child boo! The biggest thing about the name that screams ghetto is the spelling. Take it from someone who reviews resumes, there are many ways around that including using a middle name or even nickname on the resume. Many people of all races do that. I’d change the spelling myself. Kiante is a beautiful name and actually looks ethnic rather than ghetto. Black culture is a beautiful thing and we should hold onto it. Good luck to you and your daughter.

  • My2cents

    Stereotyping is real. Whether you wish to acknowledge it exists or not. Everyone stereotypes, white people, black people, indian people, etc. Everyone does it. I’ve been on hiring panels for decades and they all stereotype. The bias isn’t always against blacks, sometimes its against whites, sometimes its based on where you live, sometimes its your education. I work in with mostly education and non-profic and believe it or not they stereotype people who work for for-profit companies. Regarding black names I think that people have issues with names deemed ghetto. Unfortunately being dubbed ghetto epitomizes all the negative stereotypes that exist for black Americans. There are certain names that we know are African, or Caribbean (i.e. Donovan) etc. that don’t have negative connotations and I’ve not known folks to question the person’s ability to ‘fit’ into a work environment, lets face it, if you’re being considered for a job your resume speaks of your ability the interview is to determine if you fit in the work culture. Honestly reading Rochelle’s post with its name calling, insults and puts down, makes me think ghetto – ‘Shenaynay’ with attitude, eyerolling, head snapping, ready to pop off in a minute. Why would I want to work with someone like that. She basically just reinforced the stereotype of a ghetto person. The sad reality is another candidate with the same so called ‘ghetto name’ may actually not have this attitude and may be a great fit, but we may pass over her, just because of the lasting impression of Rochelle’s attitude. Just for context, I am a black woman, who has worked for mostly all black organizations and for some non-black organizations in the past and everyone makes judgements based on stereotypes

  • Lulendo

    Well, I am French of African descent, the first time I visited the US I was appalled by some of the names I heard among Black people: LaTina, Le’soniah, Lasonya, D’Andre… I am a very open minded personne and all for uniqueness but this “names” sound utterly ridiculous and let’s not talk about the spelling.

    I understand your desire of uniqueness since your original identity was taken away from you, but these “names”!?
    I think you should go for African names, they have strong meanings and some of them sound really cute.

    Some of the names I love:
    Akil (intelligent), Amani (peace), Bakari (he’ll be successful), Jalia (to honor), Shomari (power), Jahi (dignified), Mosi (first born child) Niahsah (Black Princess), Setkem (Black Woman), Kiese (joy), Malongi (teaching/ lesson), Elikya (hope) Kimia (peace), Isabi (joy) Suwedi (young master), Miezi (star lights), Zola (love/ will), Yulu (heaven), Nyota (star) Lulendo (pride)… your kids worth it!

    To finish, in France the names that are regarded as ghetto are typical anglo-saxon names like Brendon, Brian, Kevin, Courtney, Shannon, Heather… Because these names are given by low class and uneducated people ( both Black and White) trying to look unique and cool.

    • jasmine

      you stil black.

  • eestoomuch@aol.com

    what about Oprah and Condoleeza? how are they gonna get jobs??? lol! shout out to comedianne Melanie Camarcho

    • Lulendo

      Oprah is an biblical name! Open up you Bible.
      Condoleeza comes from the italian “con dolcezza” meaning “with sweetness”. Yeah I think it’s “ghetto” since it’s not a name in Italian lol

      • eestoomuch@aol.com

        hello! that was actually a line from a comedy sketch! u see i credited the comedianne! Open up your eyes! damn!

      • me

        Orpah is in the bible (ruth’s sister) the birth cert. was misspelled!!

  • eestoomuch@aol.com

    my mom wanted to give me a 3 or 4 syllable name, but my dad was like, nah….yah daddy!
    but i ended up giving my daughter a 3 syllable name….lol! it IS in a baby name book, tho.
    side note…the craziest names ive known…Taurus (boy) Phonecia (girl) Tayshaneek (girl) twins Mercedes(girl) Benz (boy) baby brother Maserati (boy)

  • NVAdamzz

    Diamante is the correct spelling for the word diamond in Spanish.
    The thing that irks me about these so-called “ghetto names” is the fact that half the time people want the name pronounced a certain way but they spell it all random and with all these misplaced apostrophes. It just makes it look like the child’s parents don’t have a good enough sense of spelling or phonics. I know a girl who named her baby “Ha’vyn” but it’s supposed to be pronounced like “Heaven” but to me it looks like “havin’” Also, I don’t know what the appeal with apostrophes is but I wish people would learn how to use them correctly. Apostrophes are not for decorating your child’s name.

  • Brian Cooper

    I think the important thing is raising a quality person. A quality person is a quality person regardless of a name.

  • Mlle Blanche

    I personally get a negative first impression from names that sound/look stupid. I don’t care if it’s GhettoTavia Smith, WhiiiteTraschLeieyeigh Jones, HippieGranola Williams, ExpensiveLiquor Phillips, or Candy Cane.

  • Cairo

    I take issue with these names when as adults these children fill in job applications. Surely its a parents duty to make sure your child has the best chances in life, and as adults, we know how life works especially with racial profiling. Im not saying dont call their children the names that they choose but to be aware of the potential implications on your child in their adult life.

  • LuvlyChoc

    My friend named her daughter Ah’Mirah (A-MEE-rah). I think the name is cute, but she was not trying to hear me when I told her don’t spell it with the apostrophe. I would have just spelled it Ameerah. That same girl has a cousin named Le-Aujanique. I don’t care what nobody says, Le-Aujanique is not getting a call back when she applies for a job. I don’t care what kind of credentials and qualifications she may have. If the person doing the hiring can’t pronounce it, they’re not going to attempt to dial the phone number and proceed to ask for that person. Much research has been done and those ghetto or ethnic names don’t receive call backs for interviews at the same rates. Period! A woman did this experiment. Same resume. Same education. Same credentials on each and the only one she got called back about was the resume with the non-ghetto name. It’s not right, but that’s the world we live in.

    • NotNamingNames

      Actually the woman didnt have a “ghetto name”, her name was Yolanda Spivey and the name she changed her resume to was “Bianca White”. Google the names and it will bring up multiple articles. The point she proved is that ethnic sounding names tied to Black people (zip codes as well) result in not getting call backs, additionally the ghetto names arent getting a call back even if hell freezes over.

      Think about when Ranajan Vitachoudrian applies for a job as programmer, no one judges his name. Yet Jamil Washington is.

  • lordofthegays

    Kenya was the nicest lady ever and she was also working on her master’s degree. She had a job now and she has an even better job now! If I am ever in a position to hire people I will not judge them by their given name–whatever it may be. I am not ashamed of ethnic or Black names either. Racist people will be racist whether your name is “Susan” or “Jim” when they see you in person. We need to fight the racism that makes discrimination acceptable instead of pretending that giving children European or non-Black names will save them from the judgement of racists.

    My name is neither black nor white, I meet people who are black, white and hispanic who have it, it is a Spanish name.

  • Qweenb2

    If you have a ghetto name in my opinion I don’t think you should feel any type of way about changing it, it’s not like they have any meaning or culture behind it anyway. For example qui ante.. Meaningless.

  • Me

    She has a beautiful name.

  • Mailroom Geek

    Fvck HR.


    What people don’t understand is that you’re going to get bullied either way
    Whether you’re name is Sydney, Amanda Bryce or Elizabeth you’re gonna get bullied

  • Teta Williams

    And while you are encouraging people to change their names, why dont you throw in a link for skin lightening and congratulate them for the last box of hair straightener that they bought or recommend the latest Yaki number 4c because it has more blond. Assimilation is futile because you will still with all your money will be called whatever they want you to be and it isnt Ma’am

  • Marcus Rhodes

    Thank God my parents didn’t let their ethno-centric zeal lead them into sending me out into the world with a moniker like Gustavus Heinrich Rhodes or Dietrich Riesenhuber Rhodes. It’s a lesson others seem too slow to learn. And such people are most often found where?

  • Monica

    Why does an ethnic name have to be “ghetto”? There is a huge difference between an ethnic name and a ghetto name! Smh. That lady is still very much ignorant. Smh

  • Jamie Jaxx

    My comment is related sort of, my actual first name is Jamie my father is a James and I am named after him. But a few times I’ve received the comment “is it short for something” from african americans. Always seemed ,like stupid question to me but I guess its not because I’ve got it at least 6 times in my professional years. even white people will pronounce it strangely assuming that’s my preference. I have to say no I am just Jamie.

  • survivorfromspringsemester

    It makes me really sad that this is something parents have to consider for their children. Your daughter has a beautiful name, and I’m sure that she knows how much you care for her every time she thinks of what her name means. Whatever you and your daughter ultimately decide to do about her name, I wish you and your family the best of luck.

  • Keshia

    Is Keisha considered a ghetto name now? My name is Keshia and while it’s a black name, I’ve never thought it was ghetto.

    • Dionne Lee

      unfortunately people do see Keisha as a ghetto name especially if it has La or Sh in front of it

  • s dott

    I wonder how condelezza’s parents feel about this topic

  • Shaniqua Choice

    Why are we entertaining this? Like Honestly, we need to stop trying to conform to eurocentric standards of everything! And that goes for all cultures who change their names to sound more WASPy

  • Child_Puhleez

    You’re supposed to name your child something that will give them character or an upright calling to live up to. Thinking about how they’ll one day have to fill out a job application never hurts, either. It’s not about appeasing Corp America — it’s about helping your child navigate through LIFE.

    To name your child anything outlandish is selfish, plain & simple.

    It’s never right to screw up your child’s life because you’re the parent & figure “it’s your right.” smh

  • factsoverbullshit

    This is a tough subject to comment on. Parents have the right to name their child whatever they want, but should also think of their child’s future. I’ve once met a young lady name Hennessy, I personally think that’s taking it too far but hey who am I to judge. Shrug

  • Shellz

    As a general rule….any name with two capital letters and/or accent mark may be viewed as ghetto. IJS.

  • koffybrown

    Who came up the term “ghetto name” anyhow? This sounds stupid to me. A name is given to you for identity purposes and out of love from your parents as it may reflects ones personality in my opinion but hey what d I know.

  • http://uncagedwords.wordpress.com/ Uncaged Words

    her daughter doesn’t actually have to legally change her name. whatever name she would like to be addressed by in the workforce is the name that should go on her resume.

    it’s the same thing that most asian people do.

  • Japera

    It is a very unfortunate reality that those of us with less racially ambiguous names have some sort of built in inferiority complex. Here’s the real: If many of our ancestors in America had not been stripped of their identities, many of our parents and grandparents would not have to try so hard to “create” names that signify some desire for individuality and some sort of identity. My name is Japera… no one knows what the hell that means nor whether I am a male or female… most butcher the name when attempting to pronounce it.. and you know what…. I love it! Every time I get the opportunity to tell someone how to correctly pronounce my name, I give them this story: “My name is Jah-per-ay. I was named in a naming ceremony several days after my birth. In some West-African cultures people wait a few days to name children and name them according to birth order, personality, family history etc. In west african cultures it would be pronounced as phonically written, but my parents wanted to add a little flare. I was named Japera because I am the last of four children; my name means ‘we are finished.’ Although my parents are not clear from which West-African culture my name originates, they are sure one on thing… no more children after me!” I love my name! I love my story and if I had some multi-syllabic name that was a mixture of my relatives or my mom’s favorite beverage I’d LOVE that too! All of our names have a story! Maybe ask your parents the story and embrace it! If WE are uncomfortable with who we are, we give THEM permission to be uncomfortable and discriminatory too!

  • Sumon

    What kind of name is Qui Ante’?! Girl…

  • ohthatswhatyouthought

    “Pizzazz”? I will never understand why people give their children ghetto names to make them feel special. You don’t think your child is special enough already?

    • Child_Puhleez

      I used to work with a woman who named her daughter Tequila. No joke. smh

    • Child_Puhleez

      Oh, & my daughter had a classmate named Pooquiesha. No joke. >.<

      • Pater Tempus

        The mother of your daughter’s classmate should be beaten with a rubber hose…

        • Child_Puhleez

          LOL! Right!

          Never mind a job application, what lending institution would grant her a business loan? Banks profile worse than any police officer. smh.

          I certainly hope not, but methinks babygirl would be stuck bootstrapping any business on her own. smh

  • kbreezy

    I understand the doubts you have but that’s her name and you should be ok with that. It may have some drawbacks and but it may have some benefits as well. Don’t forget that we (Americans) have a President named Barack Obama. So forget about researching name change documents; research colleges instead. Her education will have far more to say about whether she finds employment or not than her name. You’re a great Mom and you gave her a thoughtful and meaningful name.

    • Brian Bradford

      Actually a name plays a big part of getting higher end jobs, as mentioned in this article studies prove otherwise, hell one study make it so the more “ethnic” names had better credentials and STILL got less call backs.

      I have friends that wont even read a full application if the name is too hard to figure out from reading them they found clients would much rather deal with somebody who’s name they understand than a name that has to have how it is said written beside it.

      I’m not saying its a bad thing but you cant just dismiss facts and the fact is the more “ethnic” or ghetto (cmon now you know some of these names are straight up ghetto “sha-nay-nay”) the harder it is to land nicer jobs.

      • KeepingItReal

        You’re a fool. You need to finish that statement… “A name plays a part of getting higher end jobs when you have a name that represents high position in the COMMUNITY”. The reality is…the LAST NAME has more to do with a person getting a higher end job than the FIRST NAME. For instance, the Rockefellers, Kennedy’s and even Chelsea CLINTON. But, don’t be confused. The name merely represents who these people are CONNECTED TO…white people in positions of power. Stop being dumb. I can’t stand dumb black people…ughhhhh

        • Brian Bradford

          Actually you are the fool. First off I’m white not black. Second my statement ended where it was supposed to. Its a given that if you you are part of Americas “elite” families that doors will be opened everybody knows that.

          For everybody else who DOESN’T have those powerful family ties the name can still matter, as I mentioned studies have shown that people with “ethnic” or “ghetto” names have less of a chance of being called then somebody with out one whos last name ISN’T part of the social elite. It was even found that resume’s with BETTER credentials still got less call backs if the name was too ethnic or ghetto. SO yes even if your name has nothing to do with the social elite it can and does still affect your chance of landing the better jobs in life.

          So again I ended my statement right where it should have ended for the point I was making, a point relevant to this article unlike your rambling reply.

          God I hate dumb internet people who talk like they are intelligent and try to correct people only to show their high level of ignorance. I would tell you to stop being such a ignorant fool on the internet but I’m guessing thats just not possible for you.

          I hope I kept that reply real enough for you :)

          • KeepingItReal

            My apologies. I’m ok with dumb white people. It makes their extinction that much easier. My bad:)

          • KeepingItReal

            Brian Bradford….you’re still a fool because last names do not just work for “the elite”. Everyone knows unintelligent, uneducated white people are hired and promoted through middle management all because they are white and their families are married into families of certain last names…grew up in same communities, etc. I know…that’s too real for you.

      • KamJos

        You ok with being friends with people like that?

        • Brian Bradford

          Considering the field they are in yes. Again If i was dealing with important clients I wouldn’t want somebody named “JehMajesty” in the mix sorry but thats just the truth.

          • KamJos

            Why wouldn’t you want that person if he was a good person? I’m trying to get people to think really deeply about what they are doing, when they uphold name discrimination. It’s not right, and people need to stand up against it. If JerMajesty has proved himself to be a good person then he should be treated as such.

  • Guest

    name things that come to mind when you hear or see these namess.

    1. Doneesha
    2. LeQueshinae
    3. LoNisha

    1.Naguid Sawiris
    2. Folurunsho
    3. Ajak Deng

    1. Ameer
    2. Ahmad
    3. Doha

    1. Kaitlyin
    2. Jack
    3. Amber

    • Ms_Sunshine9898

      Ghetto, African, Islamic, White . . .

  • LikesToKeepItReal

    My name is Omolara and I can easily shorten it to Lara and it will be no problem. All of my friends with ghetto names hate it and they use their non-ghetto names (Michelle, Linda, Lisa, Melissa etc) instead. Stop naming your children ghetto names that they late grow up to loathe. Almost all of my friends with ghetto names shorten them or use their middle name (if it’s not ghetto).

  • kirasopretty

    Im not sure wat to say …i do believe names that our mom give us should be unique and mean something not wat society say is acceptable ….but with so much racial biased its already so hard being black ….black latino …darkskinned period .i just wish everyone could accept ppl for who they are and not associate a “ghetto” stigma with are names.everyones unique and has a different story behind them

  • Belinda

    Some commenters noted that they would not like to work where they would be judged based on a name. I understand and respect that sentiment. However, I suspect that sentiment would considerably narrow a person’s job pool. I am perfectly fine with my name getting me into an interview because that interview gives me a chance to show who I really am.

    There is a difference between prejudice and racism. If I am being “prejudged” then I may be able to change that by showing you who I REALLY am. Racism I can’t change (I suspect it is a mental illness). I believe in most cases of hiring we are dealing with prejudice.

    I think it’s a great idea for a person with a name that they think may impede their job search to use 1 or 2 first initials. At least that way you can be sure that you weren’t passed over because of a name. And for the record, I think Quinn is a nice name for a girl. However, the daughter should decide whether to change her name.

  • Megs

    There was black man released from prison yesterday after being wrongly accused of murder. He served 34 years and now has been exonerated. His name is Kash Delano Register. True story…

  • IMAX

    Really? It’s so sad that we have to change who we are and what we thought we stood for to appease mainstream. If anything you have shown your daughter that you are far from brave but weak.

  • I cantaloupe w you

    My name is La’Shanta Knowles and yes I have a ghetto name. I’m not going to change my name because some idiot assume that I’m a stereotype. So if an employer sees that I have 6 years experience in Graphic Design, has a 4 year degree, but fails to call me for an interview because of my name then I consider that a blessing in disguise because that company might not be a good fit for me.

    I love me. I respect me and I respect the name my mom gave me. Perhaps I have too much pride, but I’m not going to change for corporate America.

    • Val

      I agree with everything you said except your name being ghetto. It’s not ghetto, it’s just an African American name.

      • guest123

        No, it’s ghetto; but so what, it’s cute. We just need to embrace our uniqueness and creativity and stop letting others tell us there is something wrong with us.

      • I cantaloupe w you

        Thank you, ma’am =)

    • leebeen1

      I dont find you name ghetto but ghetto names are Hennessy, Tequila….

  • Mims

    To the writer: I doubt you’ve never been told but your name does not translate to Diamond in Spanish. Your parents misspelled it, diamond is Spanish is spelled diamAnte not diamOnte. Go and yours fixed when you go and change your daughter’s name.

  • dp from bk

    it’s not fair that society judges based on names, but i would like to see the receipts that the name of the child in the article above means what the writer stated…somehow I don’t believe it. And diamond in spanish is DIAMANTE, not diamOnte, so let’s be clear.

  • the guest

    Sorry the name is awful. Not politically correct but honest to say so. Should have named her Quinn instead of following the crowd of other urban teen moms.

  • HR Vet

    Lots of black people in the big HR departments at large corporations. Like me. I’ve worked as a corporate recruiter at three Fortune 500 companies over the past 22 years, and still working at one right now.

    Here are some names from applicants that I was 99.99% sure were white, after I looked at the other things in their background: Kassie, Princessa, Wrangler, Bree Ann A, Clutch, and lots more.

    Part of HR hiring is risk management; is the new hire going to fit in, work well with other nationalities, other ethnic groups, other classes of people with more education, etc? These sorts of names scream “poor redneck white people that probably had a lousy education and very little cultural exposure to any other kind of people” out to me and my colleagues. We have thousands of qualified candidates, there is no reason for us to spend what little time we have in our over-scheduled professional lives to “get to know” someone with a messed-up name, just to see if they might possibly be a fit. We move on to the next candidate.

    Just keeping it real. That’s the way it is in the trenches. Those applicants don’t make it through the first sort. Same goes for what are probably black applicants with messed-up names.

    Now, real, honest-to-goodness African names, that’s a different story. We welcome them. Same goes for other names that are Chinese or Russian or whatever.

    Sorry, I know what I’m saying here is “not how it should be”, but that’s how things really work after you submit your online application.

  • deidrap

    Lots of people use their first initial and middle name rather than their first name. Let your daughter’s wishes determine how you proceed. But just know that folks ditch first names that are boring, too common, difficult to pronounce, etc. all the time.


    There’s nothing wrong with an ethnic sounding name but that is different from a ghetto name. I have an ethnic name and although the name was often mispelled and to this day still people have mispronounced it, i love it.
    BUT there are names that have nothing to do with ethnicity just plain silliness like being named after luxury items or just trying a lil too hard to be original like Sha_naynay, Nyquila, Obamaneisha and even Taquila….why would we want our kids to stand out like that /??? I have given my kids strong names that are original and with meaning but that will not give anyone pause on if this child is ‘hood’. This is of course my personal choice as it is another mom’s choice to name her child Nyquila …i just beleive that every choice i make for my child should not be to be to be cute or different but to matter and to help them int he course of their lives.

  • 1Val

    Its not the name but the race that is the issue.

  • http://yourpowersdefined.com/ Jessica Sage

    sounds like another black woman focused on others’ opinions. so you named your child an eccentric name…. it’s not ghetto, it’s different. and your child is an individual, unlike any other.

    it seems when most people name their children they focus too much on “if they’ll be able to get a job”. why is that the primary concern?? whatever happened to naming your child based on the bond you’ve created w/ the fetus and what you intuitively feel suits them. Qui Ante may end up being a brilliant, game-changing entrepreneur not even remotely interested in getting a ‘nine to five’. Qui Ante could be a trailblazer for women who have unique names and learn to step into their divinity rather than shrink and try to conform.

    i say Mama did a great job naming her daughter and Qui Ante has big shoes too fill (based on the meaning of her name), but as long as her mother regrets her name then it could certainly make it difficult for Qui Ante to come into her own.

  • Shonda

    Is it possible that some of us have different perceptions on this subject based on the part of the country that we live in?

  • Erika Felicia Whitaker

    I think the issue with hiring managers and so-called “ghetto names” is that the managers probably pass over blacks with those names because they believe that the individual comes from an ignorant background. They think, “your name is Tomaneesha. Hmm…you didn’t have the sense to change it, then you must be ignorant to think that your name is acceptable for this corporation (and society)”. Some hiring managers don’t care what education you have (or whether you’re really proud to be named Tomaneesha, they judge you by your name. Of course, some do judge blacks with “normal names,” but I would at least like to get a second interview with the name Erika than Tomaneesha.

    • kb

      We all have different things we can tolerate, but I wouldn’t want to work in a place where I had have the ‘correct’ name or straighten my hair, in order to fit in.

  • Diana Betts

    My mother named my daughter Aneesha (Agnus of God) Charmon(charming), she closed her eyes & said yes this is beautiful to hear on the playground, or to call her from outside. Now, if she was teased or not about her name or her skin color, I still gave her the confidence she needed. She is 21 & constantly tells me I prepared her for the world & life.

  • Mocha B Williams

    I can’t with this one

  • SELAHnow

    Woman up you can’t change the hearts of the children of satan. Why would you want to conform. Those who are the children of satan who posses the same attitude satan had when he tried his coup in heaven. Why would you give in to the enemy? Jesus died for life more abundantly. Out of love you named your child because of hate you concede to obliged the hateful.
    President Obama tenure has revealed the hate and prejudices in the hearts of men . Ask GOD to create in you a new heart. You have a right to be creative. AFRO AMERICANS as other ethnic groups are beautifully different and should embrace it. Stop trying to be accepted! Be celebrated. Create your own jobs. Demand taxes for your community be invested in your community. Your local government, church, bank and community should build the infrastructure of the community. Creating jobs and modern homes. Wake Up! !

    • kb

      I am agnostic, but I totally agree w/ everything you said.

  • LouLouB

    I think a lot of people a missing the point. Being ashamed of a ghetto name doesn’t mean you’re ashamed of being black. There’s a difference between the two.

    To me names like Issac and Earl are black sounding names but they’re not ghetto. La’Quisha etc sounds ghetto. A similar thing (to a lesser extent) can happen to white people. With a name like Kyleigh or Kaihden some people will assume they were born to teenage parents or are uneducated etc.

    A name says a lot to many, whether we like it or not.

    • kb

      No the pt is you lot are too concern what w/with masta , excuse me what white people think. If we aspire to own businesses instead of get a ‘job’ these things wouldn’t matter. And tbh if you a good at what you do, you will have a job regardless of a name.

  • DontAskStillTell

    You shouldn’t put a social boundary on your child that she would have to fill out some resume. I have a unique name myself and I’ve had no problems finding great paying jobs. However, why not raise your child to be self-employed, innovative, fashion designer or more. There’s a world outside of the 9-5 where a person doesn’t have to change their name, ethnic root or personality to fit in. They make their own way. Let it go and let Qui Qui be.

  • WhoAmI

    I honestly see nothing wrong with the name you gave your daughter. In my opinion, it doesn’t sound “ghetto” but more African. If I were an employer I would imagine, with that name, that the applicant was foreign and there’s nothing wrong with that.

  • www.eyny.cn

    so funny!!

  • Phill Branch

    Great piece. I’m doing a documentary about this topics. Names have impact in any number of ways. Check out a clip, it’s called Searching for Shaniqua. It’s on searchingforshaniqua(dot)com

    • KamJos

      I look forward to your documentary!

  • marissa

    I don’t know where most of you are from or live..but I live in a place where blacks, whites and hispanics name their children these so called “black” names. Some people are moving on…it is more of a cultural preference now…and the people of this culture don’t care about what others think, because that’s their way of life and that’s all they know. If the kids want to change the name later, well their adults at that point.
    By the way I work with newborns so I see this when they are a few hours old.

  • Des

    Lady get your life! Keisha is NOT a ghetto name. That child had other issues. Kylie is an “ethnic” name. Subgroup: Caucasian. Quionte is ghetto but has nothing to do with ethnicity. However it gets a pass bc at least it has a meaning. The love of two people creating a life…. # againgetyolife

  • rainydaze80

    I read this story yesterday and I was a little saddened by the girl’s actions. Especially after reading that the girl’s mom gave her the name because she thought it was beautiful. To me, it felt like the girl let herself be bullied by a majority of white people into fitting in and being more like them. I understand her situation somewhat, because I had the opposite problem growing up. My mom gave me the most “anglo” sounding name, at least in my mind, and all the girls I went to school with had names like Keisha and Laquanda. Teachers fawned over the uniqueness of their names, while the kids teased me for having a “white girl” name. Even as an adult, I’m sure I did receive many callbacks for jobs because people believed that I was white, but as soon as my black face entered the door, I could hear the collective gasp by the folks in the office. The point is, a name may open doors for you, but as a minority, you will always face adversity, regardless of the name. Going as far as legally changing your name to me says you’re embarrassed about who you are and frankly is a slap in the face to the parents that named you.

  • Caydence James

    I’m not sure if you realize this but when you equate a ghetto name to being the same thing as a ghetto name, that is insulting and untrue.
    An ethnic name and a ghetto name are NOT the same!
    An ethnic name is based on ancestry so had you named your daughter an African name such as Nyla or Sanaa (or a name that is linked to her heritage and is spelled correctly and has a meaning) o maybe named your son Khalil or Amir (just examples) then that would be an ethnic name. What you did was name your daughter a “ghetto” name and that’s not the same.

    But still, like you said, you were young but that doesn’t mean that you can’t make up for it in some way. You could keep her name the same and give her an ethnic (like a name that has a meaning for her culture) or a neutral middle name and let her use that or you could go ahead and change her first name to Quinn (although she’d then run the risk of having a white sounding name). But the main thing is that if you feel that you’ve damaged her in some way, that you not just sit there and waste time thinking about it at the same time that you could be doing something about it. In the end, she’ll respect you for it and learn that there’s a value in recognizing when you may have mad a mistake and how to not be afraid to fix it.

    You can do it!

  • Akilah

    Honestly I know a lot of people with “Ethnic or Ghetto” names that are the definition of a Class Act, and People with Common names like Lori, Courtney, Brittany, Angel, Stephanie, etc who are the embodiment of GHETTO (in ALL caps–lol) A name doesn’t determine a persons behavior. Now I do agree theres a difference between “Ethnic–Unique” and “Ethnic–Ghetto”, or rather “Made Up”. Now I agree with Val 100% it doesn’t matter what we name our kids, sure u can hide behind a name BEFORE they meet u, can’t hide your skin however. Its a matter of Black=Bad… In my opinion Keisha is not even considered Ghetto…I have a cousin named Keisha, a family friend, 2 white girls, and believe it or not, 2 of my WHITE complex neighbors DOGS are named Keisha… Which has made its way into pop culture now… I find it kinda awkward that names like “Apple” “Rainbow” “Moxie Crimefighter” “Breeze Beretta” or “Everly” are considered cute or unique because someone White or even a Celebrity…When the average schmo does it its Ghetto…one of my best friends in High School was a white Girl named Zhene (pronounced Jah-nae) Hers was called cute whereas mine being Akilah (Ah-Kee-Lah) was called cute only AFTER being told “Oh wow thats really hard to say”…. –__– It wasn’t my name was SO difficult its actually pronounced as spelled…Its that I am black…OK, its life…c’mon people its 2013 hell ALMOST 2014! Its Beyond time for black people to stop changing and altering to make white people comfortable, or trying to meet their approval. I consider those people ignorant. If a company refuses to hire me based on a name i don’t want to work there! If people will assume I’M ghetto because they feel my name is ghetto, then I don’t WANT to hang with those people. Simple…..I loved the Uniqueness in my name honestly no matter who butchered it (that is until 2006 when “Akeelah & the Bee” came out– Now I feel common). There is nothing wrong with naming your children a name that u feel is beautiful, especially if it comes from another ethnic background, and has a meaning. Names are names that have meaning to me. no more no less. I plan to name my children unique names that I feel befitting, if they change it later…so be it…But change it to fit in… Thats sad…and I feel that whoever SHOULD have been validating Kylie, did not as a child. I know a woman (black) who’s real name is Caroline, she changed it to “Sapphire” she said and I quote “I didnt feel as common as a Caroline”… Names are names just that…a title to address u as something other than “That person over there” (lol)… not character definers…Remember the leader of the free world is named Barack Obama… whereas his wife’s (maiden) is named Michelle Robinson…. Its just a name…as long as u are black..U will be seen and treated as such… But thats just me! <3

    • jasmine

      oh damn your neighbor named their dogs Keisha,. saying whites don’t like blacks. ou know they could have gave them other names

  • kb

    Black people care way too much about what white people think, this article and some of the comments are proof of

  • Victoria Hardtoletgo Smith

    Changing her name would only teach her to conform to OTHER PEOPLE! Changing her name would do enough damage within itself.

  • Shonda

    A name doesn’t define your future BUT working in corporate America ALL of my adult life I feel I can say with experience… The questions like Does your name mean anything? Where are from? Wow your name is really different and of course how do you spell that… Its so tiresome.. Well when I named my daughter Kennedy simply because it’s a strong name and my maiden (surname) name was McKinley (which I loved). Nevertheless I have gotten so much grief from black people saying that Kennedy is a white name! Really I could careless what anyone thinks it’s her name now so it’s a black girl name. I hate the thought of black names as ghetto but I’ve heard people say my name in stereotypical ways to get under my skin… Despite your name you still have to follow the same golden rules in the workplace .. Don’t get labeled as the angry black woman and always work harder… I’ve managed to do both and succeeded with a guess ghetto name. Crazy thou my parents had never seen or heard of a ghetto when they named me as we where from the mountains of WVa lol smh… Btw Trust me they spell my name right on those checks so I’m good!!! Lol #livingwithghettoname

  • Honest Truth

    Diamond in Spanish is diamanté. And most Latinos, even Afro-Latinos, would NEVER name their kid that anyway lol. I’d write what Diamonte really means, but I don’t like being cruel. lol

  • Guest

    I assure diamond in Spanish is diamanté. And most Latinos, even Afro-Latinos, would NEVER name their kid that anyway lol. I’d write what Diamonte really means, but I don’t like being cruel. lol

  • ElonNicole

    i think we should distinguish between ghetto and ethnic. Big difference

  • Malie

    I’m black and my mother tongue is French! You could have two translations of her name in French ” Who first” or ” Who against the Christ”(sorry). Why would you do that to your kid? Those names are ghetto, bad and ridiculous! If you want to be original and meaningful look for names of black people who did something like Toussaint, Martin,…. but don’t create names that I can give to my dog and which can mean something really bad when you translate in another language!

  • Rochelle

    This article should be about why this woman felt the need to have a child while in her teens. Why was she having sex in the first place and why was she having it unprotected? This fact and occurrence has done more damage to the black community than a blk woman naming their child an “ethnic” name. Black people have all their priorities wrong. Sometimes we can’t see the forrest for the trees.

    • Melissa

      You assume a lot in your short judgmental comment.

      • chanela

        It IS true though

      • Chey

        But…everything she said is true though…

      • Rochelle

        You sound like a teen mom. Shame.

        • Pater Tempus

          Have you ever paused to consider what YOU sound like, “educated” black woman?

          • Rochelle

            Inform me…..What do I sound like? Besides an educated person with some common sense, pointing out the obvious.

    • zid

      You’re complaining about people judging your community, yet you’re doing the same exact thing to this woman that you complain others do to yours?

      • Rochelle

        You are a retard. You shouldn’t judge people on their names. However, you should judge people on their actions. From this woman’s actions she is irresponsible and not that smart for having a child in her teens when there are so many forms of contraceptives. There is no way around that fact. She and others like her kill the black community.

        • zid

          Ok, first off, you’re using a derogatory word that demeans people who suffer from mental illness. That’s not cool. It’s the 21st century, you really can’t expect people to treat you with dignity and respect if you yourself are unwilling to treat people with dignity and respect.

          Second, unless you yourself have never made a mistake or poor decision when you were younger, you really don’t get to judge this person for things they did when they were younger, and the fact is, having kids may not have been a mistake.

          Did you ever think that -maybe- you ought to actually consider her kids, here? After all, you’re going on and on about their names, and about how their names will affect them, yet you lambaste her for having them in the first place. So, what, its not ok to name them certain names, but it’s perfectly ok to imply that they shouldn’t exist in the first place?

          I really hope her kids aren’t reading this. Not just because their mom is now regretting giving them names that by this point probably have significant meaning attached to them, but because there are people condemning their mother for having them, basically telling them that not only should they feel ashamed for having ‘ghetto’ names, they should be ashamed of being the product of a teenage pregnancy.

          So, grats. You’re not only telling someone that their mom is helping kill a community, you’ve let them know that they themselves should feel ashamed of being who and what they are. You know who the -real- problem is here? Take a guess. It’s not the mom, and it’s not the kids.

          I’m sure you’re not a bad person. I’m sure you actually do care, and want to help make the world a better place, I just don’t think you’re going about it in the right way. What’s happening in the comments here and in this article is what’s called ‘internalized oppression’. Divide and conquer. I mean, really. You’re seriously going to tell me that it’s ok to segregate people within your community into ‘Non-ghetto’ and ‘Ghetto’?

          How’s that any different from segregating white’s from blacks into ‘whites’ and ‘coloreds’?

          • Rochelle

            Are you stupid? I mean really……. I have been up and down this article posting that the young child should NOT be judged for her name, because no one knows why her mother named her that or what the names means to the family. Did you even read my post? And yes the mother can and should be judged. Teens should not be having children. I don’t care what you say. It is killing the community. Hopefully this woman explains to her child what protected sex is and to not make the same mistake she made. What is wrong with admitting she made a mistake? That is what this teen mom did! In other communities she would be shunned and shamed for having a child out of wedlock and as a teen. But in the blk community it is “A OK.” Ok……. NOT! I don’t accept that in my family and neither should anyone else. More likely than not, the teen is not ready to raise the child and the burden falls on someone else. Please miss me with that foolishness you typed. Like I said this woman is worrying about the wrong things (child’s name). She should worry about making sure her daughter doesn’t make the same mistakes she did. Raising her with morals, values and good judgment.

            • zid

              Should she have made different choices? Maybe. That’s something only she can decide, and she shouldn’t be judged for past mistakes. That’s just stupid. If people are constantly judged for past mistakes, where’s the incentive to not repeat those mistakes?

              People certainly shouldn’t be shunned and shamed for any reason, and while I might agree with you on some points (and have been wrong about the name thing), I still don’t think that condemning and shaming people is the answer. That tends to have the opposite effect than the one intended.

              I do agree about the values and good judgement.

  • sweetms

    I don’t believe in the term Ghetto names. It’s time for society to conform to other people’s culture and choice. We don’t have to carry one century names such as Mary Elizabeth, Betsy Sue, John Peter, Jeremy. Black people most likely give names with a meaning pronounced differently as stated above. It’s called “Unique”. Let’s not give in like we have of our hair, clothes and wedding ceremony. We do not have to be “Mayflower” descendants.

    And that mother needs go stand firm to be
    encouraging and supportive of her child. She’s inflecting negative upon her already. Eventually the child will feel this from her.

    Where’s that Strong Black Woman sentiment?

  • Candeice Llovely

    Allow her to be proud of her name, who cares what others think or say….she’ll grow up with what you call a ethic name while pursuing her Master’s degree and reaching for the stars : )) God bless

  • Michelle

    I wonder if Ann Dunham, mother of a certain somewhat-famous black man with a quirky ethnic name (some of you may have heard have him) ever sat up late at night rethinking her son’s name. Hmmm….Bartholomew Obama. (Nope, doesn’t sound quite right)

    • Pater Tempus

      Stanley Ann Dunham only named her son after his father…Barrack Hussein Obama, Senior.

  • carmatogo

    Actions speak louder then words. Even if your name is La-a (pronounced La-dash-a), your name does not define you, your actions do. YES! There are stigmas with ‘black names’ but that is because there are stigmas with ‘black people’. If someone does not call you back although your 100% qualified, do you really want to work there if the only reason they called you was because they thought you were white? No.

    In “Kylie’s’ situation, she had a mother that failed to equip her with the tools of confidence and know that there was something wrong with the little bigots that were teasing her …not her name! So if they teased her for her wide nose…would she go get a nose job??

  • mcr

    All I can say is that I’m black and my mom had 4 girls. Marjorie, Emily, Heather and Stephanie. So glad she did that.

    • MCRMomlikesuggnames

      Those names are ugly.

      • Michael Stanton

        so was your comment….AND pointless.

  • Ivory

    It a difference between having an African American name from a ghetto name. Hugh difference! Aaliyah (African American) sha’christionna (ghetto) << now can you guess the father's name? Exactly!

    • Bren

      Aaliyah is an Arabic name.

    • Pater Tempus

      “Aaliyah” is Arabic…not African.

    • jasmine

      aaliyah a bible name but you right still black. but from the bible which so happens to have white people in it. aaliyah is a white name

    • KamJos

      To white people there is no difference between Aaliya and Sha’christionna. They are just Black names.


    The problem Black people face in America is that EVERYTHING we do, if not done the way Whites do it is considered Ghetto. Asians, Hispanc etc all have their own stereotypical names. However standard African American names are deemed ghetto :(

  • Marciaf

    Quinn and Kylie are not Ethnically Neutral names..They’re White sounding names..You can be tacky and be called Sally just as easily as speak Russian play classical piano and be named Condoleezza.

  • FromUR2UB

    All I want to know is: what’s with the ‘Q’ fascination, and apostrophes that don’t serve a purpose? Are those supposed to make the name seem exotic?

    I couldn’t care less about the way the name sounds. But, it’s a peeve of mine when people stick those damned apostrophes on names, without understanding when and how they’re used. When I see that, I think, STOOPIT! An apostrophe is supposed to serve one of two purposes: either it accents a syllable so that people understand they are to put emphasis on that part of the name when pronouncing it, or it’s a placeholder for a missing letter. It’s not meant to decorate the name! (Oh, put one of those little doodly-dos on it! I like that!)

    • eestoomuch@aol.com

      my daughters middle name has an apostrophe in it, because….that is how it is spelled. it separates the J’ from the s! *in my namomi campbell voice* thankyouverymuch.

    • Agonizing Truth

      I agree with the comment about the apostrophes and, what really bugs me, the wrongfully placed accent marks. Great example: Beyoncé. With the accent mark on the final “e” her name is correctly pronounced Bee-yon-SAY with the emphasis on the final syllable because it has an accent mark over it. Yet I have never to this day heard her or anyone referring to her pronounce her name like that. It’s always pronounced Bee-YON-say as if it had no accent mark at all. Clearly someone just added the accent mark because they thought it was unique and exotic looking without having any idea whatsoever what accent marks are actually USED FOR. This is sad and shows ignorance.

  • Phyllis Covington

    When my grandchildren were being born I cautioned their mothers to stay away from Q’s and K’s, no **eeshas or ***itkas. If you don’t know how to spell what you are pronouncing don’t make up a spelling. The first word a child learns is his or her name; how will they learn to read if their name doesn’t make sense.
    I get much attitude from those whose names I mispronounce because the accent mark is missing or the spelling is messy. I have no problem with unique (don’t name your child that) names, but we should think of what the child has to go through. We can do better.

    • ScriptTease

      The white folks I work with, we come across thousands of names, but they look to me to pronounce the Ghetto names. I have to remind them, what is my name (simple). After a few side eyes, they don’t try it anymore.

  • Missedwards

    My, my, my. Folks can’t even ACKNOWLEDGE making a mistake without folks coming out the woodworks with their saddles, just itching to jump on their high horses. She’s saying she regrets it, so I don’t understand what all the negativity is about. I hope things work out for you and your daughter. As time goes on and people are becoming more open to other cultures, so maybe the stigma may be less prominent by the time she’s old enough to be affected.

    • Drew

      The stigma surrounding “ethnic” names is as likely to become less prominent as the stigma surrounding tattoos… of ice cream cones… on the face.

      • Rochelle

        You seem very angry Drew. I bet you love white people ….LOL.

        • Drew

          And I bet you’re going to make an excellent dental assistant once you finally graduate from Everest College. You’ll be making like $14/hr! Are you going to rent a bed, or go all out and rent an entire room??? You’re so swell. “Hyper-derision.”

          • Rochelle

            @ “Drew”
            This whole thing with “black names” is getting mundane. I didnt read all of the comments but I can guarantee that some of them are bragging that their parents had the “good sense” to name them “Natalie.” Well I can also guarantee that none of the people typing in this forum is nothing special. Meaning they do regular jobs working for the white man. No CEO’s, no medical doctors, nothing special. I bet most of you don’t even have 100k in the bank. Basically you are a nobody. So what has this “normal” name gotten you? You still a plain ole n-word. No matter if your name is Mary or Tangeray. So please stop it.

            This is just a practice to seperate and have the illusion that you are better than the ghetto black people. You are dignified because your name is Courntey. Chile please. You are nothing but a basic broad. I can guarantee that. So save it.

            News flash. People are not, not going to hire you because of a name. They won’t hire you because you are Black! So instead of bragging that you can beg whites for a job and get them. Why not brag that you can open up a successful business that can hire and not discriminate against blk people with creative names. How about stressing education instead of worrying about the trivial. Something to ponder, “Drew” and others like you.
            Furthermore Drew, you couldn’t be further from the truth in what you perceive me as. Everest huh? LOL. Alright boo boo…..Better question: What do you OWN? Besides the right to beg whites for a job?

          • Rochelle

            @ “Drew” The post above I wrote to you is worth repeating.
            This whole thing with “black names” is getting mundane. I didnt read all of the comments but I can guarantee that some of them are bragging that their parents had the “good sense” to name them “Natalie.” Well I can also guarantee that none of the people typing in this forum is nothing special. Meaning they do regular jobs working for the white man. No CEO’s, no medical doctors, nothing special. I bet most of you don’t even have 100k in the bank. Basically you are a nobody. So what has this “normal” name gotten you? You still a plain ole n-word. No matter if your name is Mary or Tangeray. So please stop it.

            This is just a practice to seperate and have the illusion that you are better than the ghetto black people. You are dignified because your name is Courntey. Chile please. You are nothing but a basic broad. I can guarantee that. So save it.

            News flash. People are not, not going to hire you because of a name. They won’t hire you because you are Black! So instead of bragging that you can beg whites for a job and get them. Why not brag that you can open up a successful business that can hire and not discriminate against blk people with creative names. How about stressing education instead of worrying about the trivial. Something to ponder, “Drew” and others like you.

            you could not be further from the truth in your perception of me. Everest huh? You are funny. A better question to ask you is what is it that you own? Besides the right to beg others for a job? Perplexing huh? I’ll wait……

            • Drew

              Get yourself a life, boo. My goodness. I’m a dude who you’ll never meet; just let it…

              • Rochelle

                No you are a bish niqqa on a woman’s website. You need the life.

                • Drew

                  It sure didn’t take you long to go from purported hood scholar to your true form: hood rat. It may take some time, but you all always reveal yourselves. Rats, indeed…

      • Missedwards

        As long as they are given a chance to get in the door and are able to make a decent living, that’s good enough. Personal opnions hold little weight.

        • Drew

          Yeah — no. Personal opinion is the exact thing that allows people to be given a chance. Where are you from?

          • Missedwards

            It doesn’t matter where I’m from, but I live and work in SC. Some are professional enough to look past a personal opinion and check for experience, education, and overall qualifications. I didn’t say that people don’t make hiring decisions based on personal opinion. I said it holds little weight. Meaning, their personal feelings don’t matter, and the true professionals realize that. It would be insane to pass over a qualified person that would be a great fit because you don’t like how their name sounds. If one’s name sounding too black is basis for a hiring manager to decide they don’t deserve a fair chance, then perhaps the hiring manager isn’t qualified to be one.

            • Drew

              “I didn’t say that people don’t make hiring decisions based on personal opinion. I said it holds little weight.”

              You should do more reading on hiring and talent acquisition. I assure you that the snippet from your post above is unequivocally false. Personal opinion is actually the top thing people consider when making hiring decisions.

  • young afrique

    i just recently changed my name too..unfortunately it works with call backs from the jobs I m interested in

  • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

    That’s why your hot tail didn’t have any business being someone’s mother at 17. Too young and immature to predict the outcome of your decisions. Naming your child after a d*mn wine (yes you’re not fulling anyone) is not the business.

  • Drew

    Then, she wrote this: “Like my name, Diamonte…” Sadness on deck.

    • KandisWig

      That’s my new phrase. Sadness on deck. DONE. Thanks.

      • Drew

        Use it sparingly, ma’am. Godspeed.

    • Guest

      I assure diamond in Spanish is diamanté. And most Latinos, even Afro-Latinos, would NEVER name their kid that anyway lol.
      I write what Diamonte really means, but I don’t like being cruel. lol

  • Zettai

    I don’t think this has so much to do with being black as it does being young. This is no different from the other teenage mothers who give their kids dumb names like Star and Neveah or whatever, the kind of names they wanted their pretend kids to have when they played house. I think parents should name their kids how they want but to give a kid an “exotic” name for the sake of giving them an “exotic” name? No.

    • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

      I’m with you. If I hear one more dummy tell me proudly, that they named their child Nevaeh “you know heaven spelled backwards” I will scream.

      • Zettai

        Every time I hear the name Neveah I grind my teeth. The reasoning behind it is so dumb it hurts.

        • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

          Yes it is too stupid.

      • KandisWig


    • acd

      I like the name Star, but I have a special affinity towards all things space-related. Now Neveah… ugh. I hate all names that are just some other word backwards. Especially when it’s not even a word, but someone’s name.

  • Ms. Kameria

    I’m so glad my grandmother named me. She saved me. If not, then I truly believe I would have a name that ended in “Isha, Tay”, or any other stereotypical black name.

  • Drew

    Qui Anté?!?!?! That’s it: I’m taking a break from being black. I have to. Don’t f*cking email, text, call or otherwise attempt to communicate with me. Why, Lord???

    • Jancie

      Hahahha!!! Whether folks like to admit it or not ppl WILL judge by name first when they have a resume in front of them..just the way it is like it or not! As a former teenmom I chose names that I loved and that will get them in the door before anyone could prejudge who they were and how they they would speak just because of their name.

      • jancie

        P.S if you find a “ghetto name” u love make it a middle name.

  • Rosemary Davis

    The name does not have too follow her thru life I am assuming she’s not old enough too work yet so no work record has been established yet therefore she can go thru the court system and have her name legally changed.Many black women have done this especially with names like Myesha, Keisha,quocana and other similar names,besides the name Quin is beautiful and if she’s going to change the name she should do it sooner rather than later

  • KamJos

    In what language does Qui Ante mean “brave warrior”? I’m curious.

    • TooSad

      For sure not Spanish because Brave Warrior in Spanis is “valiente guerrero.”

      • kiki

        Switch them around but yeh

    • Drew

      “Ebonics.” SMH

      • Moooo


      • naomi aoki

        *tsk tsk* You’re the epitome of ignorant.
        Did mommy ever show any affection towards you when you were a child?

        I speak these words because it’s usually a person with low self-esteem, who is relegated to using the internet (message boards, usually) to boost their their self worth.

        I pity you, I really do.
        What are you lacking in your real life, so much so, that the only way to validate yourself is by putting others down, via the internet?
        Mind you, these are individuals that you’ve never met IRL.

        Find a productive hobby, a mate, and most important: GOD

        You’re transparent and it’s pathetic, troll.

        I apologize to the adults of this board for my language and tone in advance.
        It’s simply bothersome when peons seek to engage others in their ignorant conversations and/or try to bait the unsuspecting, on these message boards.

        • Drew

          Your 2nd to last sentence above reads: “I apologize to the adults of this board for my language and tone IN ADVANCE.”

          In this instance, advance means ahead of time.

          With little effort, I’ve successfully resolved the matter of who’s truly ignorant here. I’m not even going to waste any additional time undoing the rest of your post, as that would be synonymous with using a firing squad to kill an ant. Good day.

        • Chey

          Are you the woman who wrote this article?

          • Drew

            I’m assuming she is. I mean, she REALLY took a simple post and made a grand effort of trying to read me my rights. But, she failed. AGAIN (think: Qui Anté). SMH

      • KandisWig

        hahahahahahaha I CANNOT!!!!! Deal!

    • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

      Its a d*mn wine. She heard Chianti and thought it was cute and in true ignant’ style changed the spelling to make it ‘unique’ and ‘cute’.

    • Guest of the day

      God bless you!!! you took the words right out of my mouth!? I went online to google and came up with nothing…closest things i saw where in Spanish I believe! but I didnt expect to see anything anyways as she said she made the name up by combining her name with the child’s father’s name. sooo yeah….LOL
      As an African whose name is not english (I prefer that name to my english/christian name cause its what I am used to, so I make everyone learn it or say the short form lol ) I dont see a name being a hinderance in life, provided it is an actual name with true meaning….I have never understood when people say “oh its Swahili for goddess of light” and I asked my Kenyan/Ugandan/Tanzania friends and they say there is no such word or name! LOL.
      most African names, well i can speak for Nigerian anyways…have a meaning and are typically well thought over(some prayed over) before given to a child, as its believed that its speaking into the childs’ destiny. No one will give their child a name that means, thief, robber,streetwalker, or a vehicle. so naming your child La’bonquiesha which clearly has no authentic origin or meaning, your clearly not concerned about the long term effects on that kids future.
      At end of the day, you want a name that is significant, wont set the child up for lifetime of teasing or bad stigmas…it doesnt have to be Becky or Samantha (nothing is wrong with those names) but if you’re english speaking, atleast the name should be something english souding. But if you would rather an “ethnic” name, then atleast talk to a Spanish,Nigeria,Dutch,Arabic or French person for the correct meaning and spelling (altering the spelling of a name can sometimes change the meaning which isnt necessarily a good thing lol).

      thats my two cents…sorry for the long ramble :)

      • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

        Yes!!! Thank you! I have Nigerian friends who’s names are quite unique but they are culturally significant and mean something.

        • Respecteachother

          I am Nigerian and totally agree with your comments. Africa as a whole don’t just give names due to how cute or “uncute”( if there is a word like that) the name is. When a child is born, the parent already figured out the “names” the child will be given, based on different circumstances, experiences in the family. for instance, my name is Uchenna….meaning (My father’s will) when someone hears Uchenna, the person will first identify that i am IBO, one of the 3 major tribes in Nigeria.HAUSA, IBO, YORUBA.
          Each tribe give their children traditional names before choosing an English name. that’s why you hear names like Kayode, Olumide, Olajide, Akinyemi, Kolade, Musa, Ishaya, kelechi,etc.
          We are proud of our names no matter where we find ourself and each child is trained to respect each other, irrespective of culture or age.

          • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby


    • KamJos

      Oh, I didn’t mean it in a snarky way, I was totally serious. I’m a linguist.

    • acd

      I tried to find it… but mainly I came up with it mean before who or before that in many languages :

    • xar

      The meanings of names aren’t always literal translations of a language.

      • KamJos

        All I wanted was the language.

  • coolyfett

    It only cost 250.00 to fix the mistake of a ghetto name. Its not too late to save her from some of lifes cruelty.

  • Bren

    Well, she can change it if she wants to. Let her decide and let her know that she will be your baby no matter what.

  • Val

    First of all, Kylie is an ethnic name. It’s associated with White people. Whites are an ethnic group too. Second, I suppose ghetto is now synonymous with Black now? I feel bad for the author since she feels that way about herself. That if she chooses a non-European name it’s ghetto.

    And for the last time. Yes, there have been studies that show people with Black sounding names get fewer callbacks. And I guess many Black people have taken that to mean that it’s up to us to adjust? WTF?! Our ancestors are turning over in their graves. White folks took our names once and now some of you are letting them do it again.

    So fine, name your daughters Becky and your sons Tom. But guess what, if enough of you do that then those names will become ghetto too.

    • Bren

      I’m guessing that Val is short for Valerie?

      • Bits

        i was thinking valquesha…valquonda maybe? lol

        • Val

          If one of those names was the name my mother gave me I’d be proud of it. Obviously you are one of those people that thinks anything that Black people do is wrong and ghetto. I’m not.

          • Bits

            you got all of that from my comment. Wow girl you should re start the psychic network!

            • Val

              You aren’t that hard to figure out. Lol

              • Bits

                lol to bad def comedy jam is off the air you would be killing em! keep up the good work!

                • Val

                  And Btw, I think Valquesha is a cute name. :-)

                  • Bits

                    of course you do. typical.

                    • Val

                      Typical what? Typical Black person? Oops, your self-hatred is showing. If Massa don’t like it, you don’t like it.

                    • Bits

                      lol! omg you are the lamest!

                    • Juju

                      I think you should apply lame to yourself! Smh

                    • Kayon

                      I love you val and I dont even know you. But you are on point. We do hate ourselves and the sad thing about it, is that we dont even know it. That’s the sad thing, but Massa bacra does know that we are trying to be like them though and the laugh at us and speak down to us and our culture.

                    • Bits


                  • Caydence James


          • Kayon

            You are correct. We as African American’s have been taught not to be proud of who we are and so as a result we try to separate and try to do everything to be as close to white as possible. And what classifies a name as been ghetto? We as black are def mentally enslaved. This was the master plan and we as black have accepted mediocre standards.

        • coolyfett

          HA HA HA VALQUONDA!!!

        • Drew

          HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Valquesha… Valquonda <— YES.

          • smh


      • Val

        Lol. As a matter of fact it is not short for Valerie. So there’s that and even if it was it wouldn’t change anything.

    • guest

      Look, folks can name their children whatever they want, from Becky and Tom to Marqueeshiante and Qu’Davionte. Just know that names come with connotations. Like it or not, they do. It’s just a fact. And unfortunately, names like the latter are associated with every negative stereotype of Black folks one can think of. So if you’re going to give your child a name with 26 letters and 17 syllables that she herself is still struggling to spell in 4th grade (yes, it happens), then do the work as a parent to help your child:
      1. CONSTRUCTIVELY handle the teasing that is bound to come his/her way.
      2. Build an academic/educational background that is so strong that someone will be inclined to overlook the name and give them a fair shot at an interview.
      3. Teach them what the name means (if there actually happens to be a cultural meaning to the name) so they have a sense of pride rather than shame about it.
      Just something to think about.

      • Val

        You don’t understand, it’s not the names, it’s Black people that are associated with everything negative by some. Including some people commenting here. So, name your kid Becky and it’s not going to matter. As they say, wherever you go, there you are.

        The people who are going to discriminate against a person with a Black sounding name are not going to start loving you because your name is Becky.

        But, if you want to coddle racists and allow them to even choose for you what you name your child then that’s on you.

        • KamJos

          Finally someone gets it, THANK YOU! Like I’ve said 10 million times before, if Black people start using the name Emily in large numbers, White people will stop using it with a quickness.

          • Val

            Exactly. At one point, for instance, Tyrone was strictly a White name. Over time Black folks began to name their sons that and now White folks barely name their kids that anymore and it’s because now it is considered a Black name.

            • CaribbeanGlow

              Same with Jerome, and Dante…

            • lrobinson6

              I understand your point sort of, but I I have never in my 31 years heard of a white Tyrone.. IJS that most of the time it is the name I agree with the guest Marqueeshiante and Qu’Davionte and Tyrita do come with connotations. It screams I was born and raised in the projects to ignorant parents, or like little north who never needs to deal with HR an has obscenely rich parents who aren’t worried about what people think of his/her name.

          • Pater Tempus

            Funny you should say that. A few years ago, I met a young(20 something)white woman named…Tameka.

            Check your prejudice at the door, please…

            • Val

              Sorry but, one lone anecdotal story does not make what she said untrue.

              • Pater Tempus

                Empirical evidence suggests that when whites begin adopting phrases/terms/fashions/music et cetera, of blacks, it is black people abandon same en masse.

                I wonder how long it will be before the word “twerk” will be banished from the black lexicon….

          • Kayon

            You are sooooo right. In the same way when we move into their neighborhoods they move out. Same concept. That’s we need to stop trying to fit into their culture, love who we are and educate ourselves.

          • FromUR2UB

            Oh, people please don’t have your kids wearing those old lady names like Emily, Amanda, Emma. Seems like the baby should have grey hair and reading glasses.

            • KamJos

              Amanda was popular among Black people in the 90s. White people have abandoned it.

        • guest

          No, it’s you who doesn’t understand. I clearly said that people should feel free to name their kid whatever they want. I also said, in so many words, be prepared for all the B.S. that you are likely to go through as a result of that name (even if it’s a so-called ‘white’ name).
          You don’t have to tell me about white folks. I know very well how they are, and yes, they will try to hold Black folks back whether your name is Becky or Bonequeisha . . . which is why I said name your child as YOU wish, just prepare them for the bull that will be dished — whether it’s being slung by Black folks OR white ones.

          • smh

            The same black folks on this website calling her Valquiesha and Valquonda I presume.

        • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

          How do you feel about someone naming their child Noxzema. Yes spelled like that, and yes there is a living breathing child running around named after facial cleaner. Or the dummies who named their son Adolf middle name Hitler. Do you really think those kids are not going to be judged by their names?

          • Val

            I’m not sure I’d equate those with more typical Black names. Obviously if you name your kid for a product or a evil maniac then there will more than likely be judgements made.

            • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

              That’s the argument in a nutshell. Naming your child a “typical” black name will get them judged. Whether that’s right is another thing. And what is black about someone pulling some syllables out of their a** and saying its a name? I have Nigerian friends who have REAL black names. They are beautiful names and have a real meaning.

          • OutstandingWorldCitizen

            Calyx, Tresor etc. I’m not joking. ARRGH! I remember the story you’re talking about re: Adolf Hitler. The courts stepped in and put a stop to it I think.

            • Paige

              Calyx, Tresor, those are perfumes! Lol

        • ScriptTease

          I agree, but some of the names we give our kids are ridiculous. Cash Money = Cashmone’. You cannot make this stuff up, actually I guess you can.

          • Chey


          • Val

            Sure, some push the limits. But for instance that girl that hated the name Keisha, that’s not an outrageous name. It’s only problematic for her because it’s considered a Black name. That’s what bothers me, that many of us hate or make fun of names simply because they’re Black associated names.

            • ScriptTease

              I actually like just a simple Keisha, but it’s over used. I’ve met 2 white girls name Keisha, and it was actually unique because it’s something you just don’t see.

              • WhoAmI

                I’m actually surprised by this comment. I come across more Keisha’s (different spellings) that are white than black. Maybe it depends on the location?

                • ScriptTease

                  I live in the Dirty South, Florida!!! lol

              • CaribbeanGlow

                I met a white girl named Kenya and it was refreshing. Was looking up Imani, because I love it, and a white mom was loving it but was wondering if it would be apropos on a white girl.

                • ScriptTease

                  I’m sure we have some White Ebony’s out their, which is dang sure different.

                • eestoomuch@aol.com

                  one of my PET PEEVES!!! white or black….LOOK, IMANI is the MALE version of IMAN, uh, you know like the supermodel?!!! please stop giving girls boys names!!!!

                  • saadiyah

                    IMAN is the male version. IMANI is feminine. The model Iman was given a man’s name. She’s said it herself! Look it up!!!

            • Pater Tempus

              Many of us hate and make fun of stupid made up names that are associated with undesirable elements within the black underclass. It is YOU that equate “black” with “ghetto”…a term originally applied to a slums in Krakow and Warsaw to which Polish Jews were condemmed by the Nazis.

          • KandisWig

            LMBO!!! Girrrrrrl! I have seen Cocaina, Alize, Hennessee, and a host of other mess come across my class rosters–I just shake my head and show these children as much love as possible.

            • MLS2698

              There is a white lady who is a news reporter in my city, and her name is ALIZE. Every time she finishes a report from a location, she has to say her name. Her mother should be slapped!

              • KandisWig

                SMDH. Not cute. Not cute at all. Good laugh, though! LOL

        • acd

          Many people take the naming too far and pick very unappealing names. I have two girl cousins named Gucci and Fendi. I don’t think anything is wrong with Keisha or Kendra, or many other “ethnic” names, but some are purely ridiculous.

          • Val

            Lol. I get your point but, both Gucci and Fendi are at least actual names and not just brands.

            • JustSaying_IMFO

              Gucci and Fendi are Italian surnames belonging to well known families. And not even an Italian would name their child one fo them. And if you are not Italian nor can you find Italy on a map, you have no business giving your child one of these names.

        • Pater Tempus

          As they also say, when in Rome, do as the Romans do. Which is why women who may have been named “Milagros” or “Pilar” or “Ba Nee” or ” Ingeborg” by their mothers back in the old country name their daughters “Caithlin” or “Ashley” or “Emma” here in America. “Rihanna” is an ethnic name. “Barrack” is an ethnic name. “Qui’ Ante” is a hoodrat name, and hoodrat is NOT an ethnicity. I would ask the author of the article in what language the name she gave her daughter means “brave warrior”…a title not usually applied to females in any African tradition I’m aware of.

          • Val

            What’s a “hoodrat”?

          • Blkbterf1y

            The Romans also cheated on their wives with young boys. I’m sure if Charlize Theron’s name was “Qui’ Ante” you and everyone else would not have a problem with it (and she’s from South Africa). Pater you are apart of the problem.

        • CEO of MMI

          Again, it is clear you have never been a hiring manager. Let me make this clear – if your resume name gets rejected, you don’t get the interview and you don’t get hired. So, the person cannot get to know you as an employee because you can’t get your foot into the door. But if your name is Becky and you have good skills and good work ethic – no person in their right mind will care that you are black Becky vs. white Becky.

          Please learn to reason correctly and not just write stuff that only sounds deep and accurate to those who have severely limited life experience. The real world doesn’t operate the same as the one in your head. Trust me on that.

          Signed – six figure earning HR Director.

          • Val

            It’s a good thing previous generations of Black folks didn’t think like you or we’d still be riding in the back of the bus and not complaining. And, If you want to be apart of a system that discriminates against others that look like you then that is on you. But, I suppose all that’s important to you is that you got in the door, right.

          • FromUR2UB

            I think her reasoning is very perceptive and accurate. It’s not as though there is no validity to anything she’s saying. No need to be condescending. I’m always concerned by managers who don’t know how to communicate with people. And which are you, a CEO or HR Director? They’re usually not the same unless it’s your own new company, and going from CEO to HR Director would be a move backward in most cases.

      • OutstandingWorldCitizen

        I could not agree more especially with points 2 & 3. Unfortunately the sentiment to harken back to our African roots with certain names has gone awry. My family members have given their children some outlandish (15 letter names) and I just shake my head however a couple have historical meanings. Stars who name their kids outlandish names bother me too. They are practically begging their children to be bullied. Money and stature can protect you but so much. The Apple’s, Blue Ivy’s and Nori’s will still get a foot in the door though. But again, I agree with you. Arm your child with knowledge. We already have to better than the best and with certain names you really have to be truly great.

      • Blkbterf1y

        I think Val gets that’s darling. The real decision everyone will have to make is either you will be a leader or a follower. Malcom, Medgar and Martin weren’t follows. They brought change to a failing system. Jesus was not a follow of any man on this earth. He saved the world. It’s not easy being a leader. Yet I hate because I feel free when I lead.

    • Maggie

      What is up with all the thumbs down? . . Val’s point absolutely explains the sentiments that underlie our unease about ‘having a ghetto name.’ She is blatantly pointing out our continuous need to be validated by whites.

      • Val

        I think people get really uncomfortable when you point out their self-hatred. Which is unfortunate because then nothing changes and so many of us spend our lives hating our Blackness and trying to appease those that hate us.

        • Melissa

          You all sure love to diagnose “self-hatred” in other people… Everybody wants to be Malcolm X.

          • Val

            I don’t think it’s about being Malcolm X, I think it’s about being able to look at our culture and people and being able to see the (negative) influences of the majority culture on us and our culture.

            • cfnd7

              Wow! Val is sure getting ganged up on. But she has valid points. I know someone who named her child Da’Babi (for real). Even though I feel we shouldn’t have to second guess our choices when it comes to name selection in favor if “Becky”… I do believe we need to identify professional sounding names. If you have high expectations for your children set them up accordingly. This has to start from the womb. I choose a name that has a spiritual meaning for my daughter (its Muslim). But I am not naive in thinking that people will not make assumptions. I just valued my plan to set up all other factors in her life to make her a highly desired candidate for whatever she does more significant. I do believe no matter what your name is people will assume. If you set up all factors in your child’s favor a name is just one small part. But there is a difference between ethnic and (not even ghetto but) questionable. If you name your child Va’gynah no one will care what ethnicity they are.

          • KamJos

            “Everybody wants to be Malcolm X” And that’s supposed to be a bad thing? I wish more Black people would try to be like Malcolm X. Maybe we’d actually have some real power in this society. Bunch of complacent zombies we have now.

    • carmatogo

      Yes val, great comment. I agree with you. We live in a culture where ANYTHING that is ‘black’ is bad and everything good is ‘white’.
      Well the black=bad does not hold true when white people get their hands on it. Now ‘unique’ names are all the rage. In college, my roommates name was Kalina. We saw this with slang words like ‘cool’ or ‘dope’ or ‘shout out’. And every genre of black music; rock&roll, r&b (now called pop music), hip hop, blues, and jazz. I feel bad for Kylie. She someone makes fun of her nose, will she run and get a nose job??

    • jjbossy

      VAL WINS THE INTERNET. game over. applause. right on point. I totally agree with you val.

    • FromUR2UB

      I get your point. Just as people have the right to raise their own kids as they choose, they should have the right to name them as they choose. But, I believe the thing a parent has to keep in mind when naming their children is: do I plan for my child to be with me the rest of their life, or go out into a tough world and be around other people? This is often what guides a parent’s decisions in how they raise their children, or name them. Most people would probably make a different choice, if they could look into the future and see the grief their child would suffer because of their name.
      It’s not just “ghetto” names. Kids named, Apple, Moxie Crimefighter, and North West, are likely going to be pretty ticked off at their parents one day, for naming them like science experiments. There was a time when people thought it was cute, mostly in the south, to give girls boy names…my mother included. Tommy, Billy, Jimmie, Frankie, etc. My sister’s given name, is one of those names, and she never thought it was cute when her mail arrived addressed to Mr. ______. She was named in the traditon of women in my mother’s family. But, my sister has always considered having to explain that she is a woman with a male name, a bane to her existence.
      I try to imagine how the names preceded by Le, La, and De evolved into what are now considered ghetto names, I suppose that people originally thought those prefixes made the names sound French or Spanish. LeRoy is not a name you hear much these days, but at least it’s a derivative of ‘Le Roi’, which is French for ‘The King’. But, names can become fodder for ridicule, when someone begins putting prefixes that mean ‘the’ or ‘of’ in front of sounds that have no documented meanings. The…wait, what? Some of the names that other people have provided as examples, such as Condoleezza and Barack, actually mean something in other languages. A made up name, that’s all flare with no content, musical without notes, initially comes across as pretentious. However, I do believe that people can validate their names. When my daughters were teenagers, I selected their gynecologist based solely on her name. It’s a 15 letter name with all the bells and whistles…complete with the phony prefix and a ‘Q’ in it. I KNEW she was black. But, the woman is a doctor, and I felt that was an important lesson for my daughters. So, maybe some aspect of a person that doesn’t get taken seriously, such as a name, just means that the people who own them have to work a little harder to overcome the perceptions That may seem unfair to them, but that’s the way life has always been.

      • Val

        I understand your point but my point was that this is more about perception. The perception being that if it’s derived from Black folks (and White folks haven’t figured a way to profit from it) then it’s bad.

        Let’s look at an example you put forth, “Condoleezza”. Most people think of success when they think of that name. But, the truth is, if that were not a former Secretary of State’s name but the name of a teenaged Black girl from the South Side of Chicago people would dissect the name and call it ghetto.

        If we really look at the name we’ll see that it has no meaning. It’s derived for the music term, “con dolzezza” which in Italian means ‘with sweetness’. So, just like so many other Black women, Condoleezza Rice’s mother took a word and made it into a name for her child. It’s only that we perceive the name differently than other so-called Black names.

        I just hate it that some of us are so willing to see others of us in such a negative way, while at the same time defending and endorsing White cultural norms.

        • Blkbterf1y

          This point was beyond valid. Who ever wants to argue that is just lost.

          • KamJos

            So many are lost. The thing is they actually think they are winning.

    • bri bri

      whites are not an ethnic group….look it up genius

      • Val

        Lol. It cracks me up when people are rude for no reason at all.

    • disqus_BNqjymr8ME

      Val, “white” is not an ethnic group. It is a general term to describe people from many ethnic groups.

      • Val

        I think you missed my point, maybe I should have been more clear but it was only a passing point.

        Here’s what I meant; Whites refer to all non-Whites as being ethnic. For instance White people refer to Chinese or Mexican food and cultures as ethnic cultures, right? But, in both cases, Chinese culture and food and Mexican culture and food, there are many different groups of people and types of foods that make up the whole.

        So, my point was that it’s not just people of color that are ethnic, Whites are ethnic too. But, we are taught to view this from a White point of view therefore many of us see ourselves as ethnic while Whites are seen as non-ethnic.

        • disqus_BNqjymr8ME

          I see your point.

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    • mac

      Tom and Becky will become ghetto?
      Lol you were making sense until that reach of a statement.

      • KamJos

        Let Black mothers in the ghetto start naming their kids Tom and Becky.

    • JustSaying_IMFO

      While I’m waiting for everyone else to “adjust” do I continue to work at Mickey D’s or Burger King because even though I have a Master’s Degree I can’t get a callback for a well paying job because of my “ghetto name”?

      And to keep my ancestors from rolling in their graves do I pass along that tradition of ghetto names to my children and force them into the same fate, because it’s taking a while for everyone else to “adjust”?

      It that what you’re suggesting? I just wait and hold on to the short end of stick while everyone else takes their time to “adjust”?

      • Val

        You know what, if you have a Master’s Degree and you are working at McDonald’s then your name is not the problem. There is something else going on.

        Btw, that’s an interesting avi. Lol

    • smh

      Please let your voice be heard in a format greater than the comment section of this poor excuse for a website. This self hatred is getting completely out of hand.

  • Marina Calis

    She can always change it…or better yet apply for a new social security card like myself and the SS office will change it for you like they did me.It’s not that much to change your name legally…

  • DontbeShameItsYourName

    Honey she done had this name so far now why change it? When she applies for job her old name will come up. You know they ask “have you been known by any previous names” on background checks so that name is really not going anywhere. They may think she is hiding something else and don’t hire her anyways. Then what?

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      • Drew

        Your font is of the devil.

        • Rochelle

          @ “Drew”
          This whole thing with “black names” is getting mundane. I didnt read all of the comments but I can guarantee that some of them are bragging that their parents had the “good sense” to name them “Natalie.” Well I can also guarantee that none of the people typing in this forum is nothing special. Meaning they do regular jobs working for the white man. No CEO’s, no medical doctors, nothing special. I bet most of you don’t even have 100k in the bank. Basically you are a nobody. So what has this “normal” name gotten you? You still a plain ole n-word. No matter if your name is Mary or Tangeray. So please stop it.

          This is just a practice to seperate and have the illusion that you are better than the ghetto black people. You are dignified because your name is Courntey. Chile please. You are nothing but a basic broad. I can guarantee that. So save it.

          News flash. People are not, not going to hire you because of a name. They won’t hire you because you are Black! So instead of bragging that you can beg whites for a job and get them. Why not brag that you can open up a successful business that can hire and not discriminate against blk people with creative names. How about stressing education instead of worrying about the trivial. Something to ponder, “Drew” and others like you.

          • ZeroFuxGiven

            And another hoodrat with crab in a barrel syndrome. Your third paragraph was the only sense you made, anything before that was just insulting, but typical behavior, let me insult before I give advice. Drew’s response was actually to maynefzb828, who is spamming the comment section. You might be an N-word, but I am a black woman. You are nothing special, I’m a black woman, e.i the mother of effin civilization. Anybody typing here, can have an opinion, you sound bitter as f&*%.

            • Rochelle

              Hit dogs will holler. Sounds like you have a bloody nose, boo. Aren’t you late for your shift at the Burger King? I am far from a hood rat. I am a highly educated black woman myself. The difference between me and you and that I don’t judge people on a name. I actually judges others on their actions (accomplishments) and their hearts (character). You should try it sometime.

              • rebellemckenna

                If you are portraying yourself as a highly educated black woman I think your message would have a lot more authority if you didn’t have grammar errors. Also, we shouldn’t judge people period. Regardless of their actions or “hearts”

                • Rochelle

                  I do not feel it is wrong to judge others. Humans judge every single day. Humans such as yourself. You judge whether it is safe to cross the street. You judge whether you should date that 40 year old still living with his mama. You judge people by their hair style, clothing, etc. I just think it is wrong to judge a person on something they cannot control. People CAN control their actions and their integrity. So try again.

              • LordAlaster

                If you’re as educated as you say you are. Why can’t you express yourself to people without being insulting and condescending? How do you know that ZeroFuxGiven isn’t someone important at burger king or a ceo at a corporation? So what if she works at burger king it’s a job that she can survive off of for right now. Maybe she’s doing that to cover what little she needs to cover while going through college.

              • ZeroFuxGiven

                Seems like you are calling out what ails you. This is the internet “boo”. I died twice because you contradicted yourself, like a little fool.

              • Steven

                Grammatical errors yet highly educated. Funny, what does “highly” educated mean these days?

          • acd

            I can’t agree because you don’t know what industry this child wants to go into. What if they like corporate life? It’s true that a name won’t get you a job, but sadly in many cases, it can get you an interview.

          • Chey

            Pipe down Rochellika.

            • ZeroFuxGiven

              I love you

          • Been

            What annoys me are black folks who like to remind black folks about all the negative things people say about black folks. Nothing positive comes out of their mouths if a black person decides that they want to adapt to anything not “ghetto”. They envy progressive black people and ALWAYS feel the need to bring folks down. It’s more annoying than somone sitting on the train next to me clipping their finger nails.

            • Rochelle

              I agree.

          • Not Just Jokes, But Real Talk

            PREACH!!!. That was well said!.

          • Superwife

            @ Rochelle – you don’t know anybody on this thread. Please stop making assumptions. And newsflash – people do discriminate on paper so your name can make a difference to a less than enlightened individual. And…grow up…stop calling people names.

            • Rochelle

              You have to ask yourself why are you trying to work for a “less enlighten individual.”

            • EqualOpportunityMyArse

              I think you missed the premise of her point. Which was they are not SOLELY discriminant to the name but because the name then signifies that you’re black! They use the excuse that it would seem “ghetto” (I hate that word, btw) or unprofessional to have a “Qui’Ante” working at their XYZ Corporation but that’s the okey doke. That name screams IM BLACK and it is unwanted! The fact that people are missing THAT point and focusing on the name is disturbing on many levels.

          • LikesToKeepItReal

            Her name is ghetto. Are you mad ROCHELLE?

            • Rochelle

              My government name is not Rochelle. Try again genius. Aren’t you late to your appointment sucking your white boss’s ding a ling? Run along scrub.

              • LikesToKeepItReal

                Lol, whatever your name is, I can bet it’s ghetto, you ghetto bum.

                • Rochelle

                  I’ll take: LikesToKeepItReal is really a failure at life for 500 Alex! LOL. Nothing about me is ghetto. However,I bet you don’t have 3k in the bank and work for whitey….So how is that Euro name treating you, boo?

                  • LikesToKeepItReal

                    Lmbo, my name isn’t European. You are truly stupid. Fix yourself before you wreck it, you ghetto piece of trash.

              • ZeroFuxGiven

                Just as predicted, you give a hoodrat response……… Wait, scrub is still a diss??!!! You can take the girl out of the hood, but the gutter rat mentality remains.

          • Kayon

            Wow. Well said – you have presented strong points like instead of worrying about a name, focus on becoming a doctor, open up a successful business. Besides, they will hire on credentials not names. And we do we as negroes deem it necessary to denigrate our culture?? Besides, what makes a name ghetto? There are white folks with names that arent pronounceable, does that me them high class? We have a negative depiction of our race and class of ppl and that was the whole point of slavery. Even though we are not physically enslaved we are not mentally enslaved, which is even worst. We need to work on emancipating ourselves and educating ourselves and get past the trivial things.

            • Watcher

              That was not ‘the whole point of slavery”. More education, certainly.

            • EqualOpportunityMyArse


            • NotNamingNames

              In the real world people dont always hire based on credentials but rather who you know. What makes a name “ghetto” is not whether it is pronounceable , but rather the origin, or lack there of. It is a name made up out of thin air….or named after liquor. Someof the CEO’s of Bank of American are from India and have unpronounceable names by American standards but their names are authentic.

          • Blkbterf1y

            I agree with a lot you are saying except one main point:
            “News flash. People are not, not going to hire you because of a name. They won’t hire you because you are Black.” Studies have been made on the discrimination and racism that exist in the job market in regards to those beautiful black names. People of all skin colors including black business owners are trashing the applications with the black names. The truth is, if I wore my natural hair as long as Becky’s or Chin Lee’s 16 inch or 13 inch long hair I would have a huge afro. Trust me that would be problematic as well. Black people need not be scared just continue the fight to be excepted.

          • I’m North West BITCHEZ !!

            I am a hiring manager for a prominent Aerospace and Defense contractor
            located in GA. I am a black woman in my mid 40s, with what some may
            consider to be a “non ethnic” first name. Let me say that while it’s
            true that a name alone cannot get you a job, it can certainly keep you
            from getting a job. I have overlooked resumes with names that are
            difficult to pronounce or sound like monikers that may belong to
            strippers, drug dealers or prostitutes because at the end of the day, I
            have to explain my decision to my bosses and so on and so forth and
            99.9% of the upper echelon is a white male dominated field. It may not
            be fair, but it is the reality we live in. Just my somewhat informed
            opinion. Also, you’re right, I do have a “normal” job (whatever that
            means) and for the most part, I’m a nobody (on this thread anyways)…. I
            won’t comment on the $$ in the bank thing because, well, I find it tacky
            and irrelevant.

            • Rochelle

              So let me get this straight. Your white bosses (saviors) would get on you for hiring a qualified person that can do the job (at least on paper) with a “difficult” name? Really??? Really??? I think that is your hang up. I bet you think you are better than the ones with the “ghetto” or ethnic names. I can hear the voices in your head now, “I don’t want no “ghetto” black to mess this good thing I got here with massa.” LOL. You do have one thing right. You are a nobody, but I applaud you for your loyalty to your white bosses. Pathetic.

              • Pon_de

                I can tell that you are very naive (and I hope young as an excuse). “I’m North” is exactly right in her statements. We do not live in a meritocracy. There is no such thing as fair or colorblind or understanding in business. The folks on top set the rules for who they want representing their brand, their accounts, their interests, etc. Hard work and a strong skillset does not necessarily translate into opportunity. It certainly helps but in the corporate world, how decision-makers/power players feel about you comes increasingly into play as you grow your career. I am not necessarily advocating that this woman change her daughter’s name but to pretend that the name won’t affect her career path (in ways she may likely never know) is foolish.

                • KamJos

                  Has nothing to do with being “naive” but doing what is right. Shouldn’t business be fair and colorblind? Shouldn’t we be working towards that?

              • I’m North West BITCHEZ !!

                Wow. Angry much? You missed the point of my comment. A hiring manager may very well never get far enough to realize that an applicant is qualified for the position because a name may deter that person from fully reviewing the resume. It’s no different than a company refusing to hire a qualified applicant because they have visible tattoos that do not fall in line with what that company perceives to be their image. I won’t continue to debate the point with you because it would be pointless. I’m not trying to convince you. I was just sharing my thoughts and experiences on the matter. However, I do take exception to your comment about the white man being my savior and massa. My mother is a black Jamaican, my father is a WHITE Canadian. My husband is a black American and we have 2 black children together. Your ranting about white people as if you know EVERY single white person’s morals and motivations is offensive, borderlines on insanity and shows how ignorant you really are. Ethnic name or not, qualified or not, I wouldn’t want someone like you anywhere around me.

            • PleaseDOBetter

              “It may not be fair, but it is the reality we live in.”

              And herein lies the problem. I, personally, do not accept that as MY reality. I mean this with the utmost respect because I am younger than you, but essentially you have just admitted to not interviewing/hiring qualified applicants NOT because of their credentials or education but because of their name. While I understand that you are in a system in which is unfair, it seems that you do little to nothing to curb this unfair treatment. Rather, you have become complacent within it.

              • Pon_de

                Please read my response to Rochelle and toughen up. As you get older you will learn that the working world is not a fair place. The most connected are often recognized over the most qualified. I applaud you for being a principled person but realize that when you work for someone else, you work under their rules (explicit or implied). The sooner you accept this reality, the quicker you will develop the savvy that is necessary to claim what you want out of your career.

                • PleaseDOBetter

                  I understand your point but I feel as if it was misguided. Based off what I understood of the other woman’s point, it seems as if she has just accepted that that is the way the workplace should function instead of trying to work within it to challenge it. That is no disrespect to her nor does that mean that I don’t understand the nature of White privilege (especially as it plays out in the workplace). I am actually working to fight some of the same issues within my own organization.

              • NotNamingNames

                “It may not be fair, but it is the reality we live in.”

                This isn’t about complacency, this is about reality. No where, ever, in the Bible, in the Torah, in the Koran did it EVER say that life would be fair. We have to live within the confines of society and fight against gross in justices and remember that life isn’t fair. As humans we are imperfect and therefore we live in an imperfect society.

            • KamJos

              Wow so you actively participate in name discrimination. You have the power to change it and yet you still uphold it.

              • I’m North West BITCHEZ !!

                …and by having the power to change it you mean, I should advocate for the hire of people regardless of name, age, sex, gender, race, religious or political affiliations or disability? That’s what the EEOC does. It’s also important to note that I have never in my professional career had an employer tell me not to hire someone because of their name. This article talks about “implied” discrimination in the workplace. Something that exists without being explicit. Situations like this are difficult to prove as the discrimination is somewhat subjective, extremely subtle and as a result much more difficult to prove. I’ll end by saying that I suspect that a lot of the people on this thread are speaking about corporate environments that are foreign to them. The naivete expressed when stating how things are and should be in the corporate world is evidence of that. I commend the people out there that are committed to standing on principle. Do whatever you want, name your child whatever you want. It’s your world. While they are busy filing lawsuits accusing an employer of discriminating on them based on their name, I’ll be hitting the clock, doing my job and cashing a paycheck, living my life.

                • KamJos

                  “While they are busy filing lawsuits accusing an employer of discriminating on them based on their name, I’ll be hitting the clock, doing my job and cashing a paycheck, living my life.” You said all that you needed to say with this line.

                  • Rochelle

                    @KamJosShe has a very simple mind. I talk about empowering blk people to own rather than beg for a paycheck. She goes on to give her whole life story/background (as if anyone cares) and says that not all whites are evil. No one said whites are evil but she jumps to white people’s defense and goes on to prove it what the limited white people she know. You are dealing with simple minded person. It is a waste of time explain things to her. She would rather brag about working in corporate America (as if no one on this board has ever worked in corporate America). Wow big accomplishment. You can’t see the forest for the trees. You are a lost soul. I will pray for you. It is beyond names dummy! SMH.

                  • Rochelle

                    KamJos please don’t waste time with Its North West….. She is lost.

    • Caydence James

      I’ve been in corporate America for awhile and have been on hiring panels in 2 Fortune 500 companies and I can tell you for a fact that a ghetto name (not ethnic names) will definitely hurt a person’s chances of getting an interview (which is what you’re aiming for when you submit a resume). As for the background check, when there are a lot of candidates, HR or hiring managers tend to do those checks AFTER they’ve interviewed so that they’ll only have to checks on those they’re interested in.

      So as long as she walks in with a professional demeanor and impresses them, it won’t matter that they’ll pull up her old name. If anything, if they see that she went from a name that sounds like her mother was a teenager in the ghetto to a more presentable name (and by presentable, I don’t mean white but without a bunch of accents, trying to sound exotic or named after a luxury item) they will definitely understand why she did it and respect her more for it!

      So it’s definitely a good move if she wants her daughter to have the opportunity to make more than minimum wage or if she doesn’t want her to be embarrassed later on. Better to change her name now and keep calling her Qui Qui at home than to help ruin her future. I commend her for recognizing this before it was too late.

      • Athena

        So why the hell would you want to work there? This is the stupidest, most prideless thing in the world: because racists are going to be racist to you, find a way to make yourself more pleasing to them?

        Get some damn self respect!!!

        Most of you seeking ways to make yourself less Black work right next to Mahesh and Puli and Nenad and all of these other people with non-white names who rock them proudly. Get some self esteem and self damn respect and honor the name you were GIVEN!!!

        • Pater Tempus

          “Mahesh” and “Puli” and “Nenad”s names represent where they come from, and guess what…it ain’t the ghetto.

          • Bren

            And those names probably translate to something which makes sense.

            • KamJos

              Tyrone and Jamal make sense too, but they won’t hire them either.

          • English

            The slums?

          • Celine

            i love the name nenad so much. So hot.

            • Watcher

              Really? Conjures up a painful visual for me….Knee + Nad = Ouch!

              • Truth is…

                It’s actually an Eastern European name (mostly Serbian and Croatian) and it’s pronounced NEH + NAD. Cool name but would be weird on an African American. Kinda like how Dmitry is a Russian name but lots of AA dudes have it but with the wrong spelling like Deemetree or Dimitri, etc. Just stick to American English names instead of opting for names belonging to different cultures you have nothing to do with. Also, cultural names have specific meanings like being named after an occasion or family member, etc. For instance, I’m African and I speak Swahili and I meet so many AAs with Swahili names that mean nothing like what they think they do. For instance, I met a guy whose Swahili name translates to policeman while he meant for it to be warrior. It was so awkward watching his face drop in disappointment when I told him the true meaning of the name… Kinda funny but not really. I understand that you guys wanna have your own identity but latching on to cultures you do not understand when picking names does more harm than good and usually the names are made to sound ridiculous. That’s why actual African names sound beautiful on Africans while AAs with supposedly African names sound weird and contrived. For instance, in what language does Qui ante’ mean whatever this lady is saying? It better not be African because we do not have such vowels and spellings. It would make more sense if it was Kiante but I’d still question the meaning… Also, plenty of Africans have English/christian first names due to being colonized by the British. For instance, my first name is Leah. That doesn’t make me any less African and it certainly doesn’t make one any less African American. It’s like those who sag their pants because they “don’t want to look white… Think about it. *hidesbeforeI’mstoned.

                • Rochelle

                  You sound like a hatin African Booty Scratcher. If that man wants to be named after a policeman then let him. It is his business. If a black person wants to take a name from another culture and use it for their child, then let them. Lord knows whites do it all the time. Right now dumb arse “white” names like McKinley and McKenzie are being used for female babies. When the “Mc” means “son of” in English terms. So most would agree naming a girl with a name that begins with “son of” is stupid and asinine. But not a peep from you any other racist white person. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmm…….

                  • Watcher

                    Are you suggesting the man named himself? The point was that he only thought his name meant warrior and he was later informed it meant policeman.

                    • Truth is…

                      Well, whoever named him told him the name meant warrior until he met me- the first native Swahili language speaker he’d ever come across- and excitedly told me he had a name in my language and that it was “Askari” and meant warrior. I had to tell him, to his disappointment, that it actually meant “Policeman” or “security guard” and that the word for warrior in my language is actually “shujaa”. I blame the parent that named him without adequate research which seems to happen a lot. The poor man, had to learn as an adult, that he had a ridiculous name! I at least hope they spelled it correctly.

                    • Watcher

                      Yes, I understood exactly what you were saying. I was replying to another poster who seemed to have misunderstood your post.

                    • Truth is…

                      Oh! Gotcha! Sorry. It looked like it was in response tome at first then it changed.I guess Disqus is having issues. Have a great weekend!

                    • Watcher

                      You have a good one, too!

                    • LetsReason

                      His name is not ridiculous, because words have different meanings throughout different cultures and generations. In your culture it means policeman and security guard, but in Arabic it also means soldier. That’s not a far cry from warrior.

                    • jussayin

                      Point is the guy thought it was in her language, not Arabic, and that it meant Something it didn’t. Also, soldier and warrior are not synonymous. a WARRIOR is a person who FIGHTS in battles and is known for having courage and skill at fighting. Think knights. Warriors can be soldiers but not all soldiers are warriors. There are plenty of soldiers whose primary job is to type, fix machinery, cook, clean, etc but not fight in actual battles so the name still doesn’t serve it’s purpose even in Arabic. I think she makes a valid point and I’m an African American woman. Some of these names do us no justice and fact is names can and do affect whether or not our resumes are tossed or not. If you don’t believe it then Google YOLANDA SPIVEY.

                  • Truth is…

                    Sure. Let’s do insults now ROCHELLE. Truth is, I am African and I DO scratch my booty when it itches. Silly me for thinking it was actually a human thing as opposed to an exclusively African trait. Oh well! Curious question. What do you do when your booty itches? Lick it? Coz apparently only we Africans scratch itchy derrieres. LOL! Sorry if my post offended you. I was just sharing a perspective that many would deem reasonable. Open up your mind and see things for what they are. Insulting me doesn’t change perception on the topic. Stay positive. Good night.

                • Watcher

                  Interesting and thoughtful post!

          • MLS2698

            My biology professor’s name was Manisha, and she was Indian.

            • smh

              Let these people remain ignorant and prideless seeking white approval.

            • Pater Tempus

              Your point being…?

              • MLS2698

                PATER HATER!

        • Chas

          I don’t know about you but I would much rather have a nice paycheck then walk around with a hood name just so people don’t think i’m trying to make myself white. This is the world we live in and certain things look a certain way to some people and sometimes those people are behind an application. This is exactly why I was very thoughtful and careful when I named my daughter. Not only did I not want her to be taunted and made fun of in school I didn’t want something as simple as a name to follow her outside of school.

        • Blaxicn Battle

          Unfortunately, names of Indian descent (since I’m assuming what you are trying to identify with) emulates a country and a heritage of people that have a background in hard work and education. Despite how we feel about our “blackness” there is always a stereotype! I often get the surprised look from HR when they see my face after seeing my resume and hearing my voice. We as black people even have stereotypes of people with ‘ghetto’ names. She has to get in the door first, but whether the HR is white or black that ‘ghetto’ name is going to raise stereotypes. When someone hires you they are looking at dog on social media now for Christ’s sake, you don’t think they are going to have a problem with this girls name. Be real!!!

          • smh

            It saddens me how lowly you think of your own people based on a perception purposely given to you by whites to make you feel less about yourself.

        • English

          PREACH SISTER!

        • mimi

          Hmmm what sounds better a nice, respectable job with great pay? Or stuck at minimum wage place struggling to make ends meet working with La’Quisha and Anfernee? Sometimes you have to bite your tongue and swallow your pride, it’s called growing up! Yes, it sucks to be profiled and sometimes being profiled over as something as little as a name. But I rather much take the job that’s gonna look great on my resume and help me get by in life.

        • Godallahtruth

          Girl, you better get schooled on the game behind the game.

        • Caydence James

          Athena, what exactly what the F*ck are YOU talking about? mean really? Did you READ what I typed? I basically responded to someone who said that people do not judge by names to tell them that they in fact DO judge them by the name on their resume. Is this something that is limited to my company? No. Did I say that it’s something that I necessarily condone? No. Just that it happens and guess what? Me telling someone this did not start this nor do I have anything to do with it’s continuance.

          So again, what the hell are YOU talking about?

          Doing a lot of assuming aren’t we? Using a bit of misplaced anger? Tell you what. Grow up.

      • Me

        Perhaps the young lady could go by a first initial and her middle name (hopefully mom didn’t go all creative with that too).

      • Blkbterf1y

        What’s sad is, while you’ve evolved into a person who has been on fortune 500 hiring panels in the past, you’ve witness this form of discrimination and racism and apparently condone it by warning of these “exotic” or names with ” a bunch of accents” like there is something wrong with these names. If the name Barak was made up would it be taboo? Of course, these “exotic or accented” names can cause a negative outcome for a prospective position. Yet, we should all understand that these only says that race and discrimination is still an issue; we are not 100% excepted for who we are (nor by our own). Simply put, the battle is not over.
        Why are you on a website like this? Shouldn’t you be figuring out derivitaves options or something?

      • Just Axin

        Great comments.

    • Bren

      All she would have to do is tell them why. You can’t discriminate against someone just because they changed their name.

    • Superwife

      Maybe she can go by her middle name or initials only. Big dummy parents.

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