Taking A Stand…Or A Seat: Should Pregnant Women Expect Men To Be Chivalrous?

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November 3, 2013 ‐ By Brooke Dean

I’ve been living in New York City for over 10 years and I take the subway almost daily. While I can say that my experience living here has made it so that nothing really surprises me anymore, I still seem to be amazed at the number of men who don’t offer their seats for pregnant women on public transportation. Maybe I should say I’m not surprised, but I’m definitely still bothered by it.

Now that I’m 7 months pregnant and visibly so, I think I get annoyed mostly by men who stare at my stomach for the length of the train ride, but couldn’t care less that I’m carrying bags or look like I’m about to tip over. They give me an unapologetic look that says, “I don’t care if your water is about to break, I am NOT getting up.”

Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t consider being pregnant a disability or a handicap. If anything, it’s just uncomfortable to stand on a crowded train with people bumping into your belly, or trying not to fall over during a bumpy ride because your center of gravity might be off. However, pregnancy for a lot of women takes a huge toll on their body, and if she doesn’t have the luxury of staying home and has to use public transportation to get to and from work, that ride can be tricky…and somewhat exhausting. It just makes us happier if we can sit down for a bit.

I don’t expect men or women of a certain age to stand up for me and if a man is using crutches or something, I don’t expect him to hobble on my account. That would just be silly. But to know that women will offer their seat to me before a seemingly fine man will is crazy. I’ve even been offered a seat by another pregnant woman who wasn’t as far along as I was. Imagine that.

At this point, I’m used to not being offered a seat – and I’m okay with that. In NYC, I dare not ask a man to offer me his seat for fear of getting cussed out. I’ve actually seen a pregnant woman ask a man for his seat and his reaction was actually one of “surprise”…and then anger. I learned my lesson and a seat just isn’t worth it to me.

So what do we make of this? Is chivalry dead, or are pregnant women walking around with a false sense of entitlement? After all, no one asked me to get pregnant and other than the protruding belly, I appear perfectly fine.

Should heavily pregnant women expect special treatment just because they’re carrying life, or should we just get over it and wear comfortable shoes?

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  • Stefanie

    I am 32 weeks pregnant. today i got onto a bus who was about to pull out of the bus stop by knocking at the door (the bus driver was trying to ignore me). The driver started shouting at me across the bus because I had not swiped my card trying to make my way in, loaded with 3 heavy bags, obviously struggling to keep my balance because no one offered me a seat in the front section and because the bus had already started moving. when I reminded the bus driver of my situation, a woman jumped up announcing that the bus driver did not have to let me in. that was the only comment I got, all the other passengers remained silent. i decided that I would rather get off this bus and walk… where is your civil courage new york??? where is your heart???

  • Laura

    I think, man or woman, if you see a heavily pregnant woman, you should give up your seat to her unless there is a reason you cannot. It’s just a decent thing to do. Pregnancy is uncomfortable and for some women standing for long times can even be painful. All people should treat one another with compassion and grace. Giving up a seat for someone who obviously needs it is the right thing to do IMO

  • coolyfett

    Damn I am shocked that this is even a hot topic? Giving up a seat for a pregnant or handicapped person is a no brainer…Now I need to read these comments….

  • mamanzee

    I really don’t understand why people find it so hard to be kind to another in need. A pregnant woman, handicapped person, the elderly and…well, anyone you think has a need ought to be treated with kindness and respect. Will giving up your seat kill you? Will it make you less of a person? Are you so eager not to ‘give up your rights’ that you’re willing to give up a little bit of human decency which is really the only thing that distinguishes you from a jungle beast? Sometimes we give up a bit of our comfort for another because thats the best thing to do…and the only thing that stops society from sinking into total chaos. If all people were totally selfish and uncaring then the entire human race would be in trouble.

    It’s a wonder that people who are so willing to treat others like trash have the belief that THEY need to be treated like royalty by those around them.

  • monica

    I don’t give up my seat for pregnant women either and I’m a female. They should stay home or not get pregnant if they feel that way. They seem to feel entitled.

    • Megan

      Oh my, lawd your age is showing..lol. I thought like that too when I was a little youger then I thought about when my mom was pregnant with me and how I would feel If she told me people watched her pregnant standing up with swolen ankle and refuse to give up their seat. Maturity is a beautiful thing.

  • Chelsea

    I live in NYC and commute daily on the subway. Men in New York City have no home training, are uncouth and not marriage material in my opinion. If you want a decent man you have to import him from a southern state to the Big Apple. If I see a pregnant woman, a person with an injury and hell a child I offer them my seat because my West Indian parents wouldn’t allow me to act so disgusting. Americans have lost respect in their culture, it’s all about “I” and “me.”

  • chanela

    Where the hell are the men who get these women pregnant? I always see pregnant women on te bus with like 3 kids. Thats so wrong

  • Taneesha Culture Clash Thomas

    a real man would get up.

  • Guest11

    Men should be chivalrous towards women period, pregnant or not. It is part of what makes them gentlemen!!!

  • HUgrad13

    I seriously doubt anyone commenting negatively on this actually lives in New York City. Who the he** actually owns a car in this city anyway?? Seriously. Its just a waste of money. So all of these people saying “get a car” sound ignorant. And plus, who said that these women are only using public transport for work? Why not doctor appointments or errands? And why are some of you looking down on those that work somewhat through their pregnancy? Most women do, poor or well-off, unless they’re on bed rest. I’m just confused as to why all the vitriol. I get up for pregnant ladies because I know their center of gravity is off, and I’m not trying to have it be like falling dominos on the bus. I don’t wanna see pregnant sally take a tumble.

  • MImi

    I think offering your seat to anyone who needs it more than you is a great thing. I remember when I used to ride the bus….it amazed me how many people would let elderly people stand with many grocery bags in their hands on a moving bus. I think the polite thing to do is offer your seat to pregnant women, elderly people and physically handicapped people. All of these people need a seat because they are most likely physically not capable of standing for a long period of time. I don’t think this should be solely a man thing but something that everyone with conscience should do because it’s the right thing to do.

  • Belinda

    In CA I think there is an ordinance that you have to give up designated seats for the elderly and handicapped. I think this should include pregnant women. I think we can all agree that a woman’s body undergoes biological changes that make it harder to maintain balance and that ia fall could be detrimental to the pregnancy. I knew humankind had sunk low, but not THIS low.

  • Billie Boston

    Yep and Herm Cain need to pull that dil do out of their bums and grow up! How about start being traditional men by stop listening to that mind-dumbing modern-day rap music that’s been teaching you how to degrade and disrespect women. The women you know personally who had hurt you guys, go after them and not every black women on this site.

    • Herm Cain

      Sisters disrespect and degrade themselves far more then any rap song could ever and where does the hurt comment come from I guess to the entitled the truth feels like an attack

  • Herm Cain

    She can stand that’s not my nut she won’t die plus you shouldn’t expect anything in life that’s equality for that a** scenarios like this women are always “traditional” until its time to make a meal clean some clothes and give a massage then you’ll see how traditional she really is

    • Lilly

      If she has to cook, clean and give massages, I hope you make enough to cover the cost of living for the family, can trap a mouse, lay sheet rock, clean the gutters and build shelves. That’s tradition for that a**

      • Herm Cain

        To be honest I’m not fond of defining roles everybody pull your own weight because i damm sure aint supporting a grown adult wife or not but I find it ironic women throw the word traditional around when it suits them but I don’t think they truly understand the definition

    • yep

      Exactly! They want men to be traditional and they want to be modern day women. If women want traditional chivalry, they need to act like traditional women.

  • MrJimiTheFish

    Are you fed up with those stupid downvotes too?

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/makedownvotesoptional/

  • Lilly

    Some of these comments make me absolutely sick. Why would anyone feel that it is ok to completely ignore someone who is pregnant. At a time where trains and buses can be very packed, and at times dangerous with people who are pushing, pulling and bumping into you every which way, pregnant women are the most vulnerable. Not just them, but a little baby who hasn’t even had a chance yet. I’ve never been pregnant, but if God ever blesses me with the opportunity to carry a life, I’m a bit old fashioned and I would think that a strong, abled bodied man should offer his seat. Not saying that a woman shouldn’t. And chivalry does make sense in this context because a pregnant woman is in a way weak. Just think if that was your wife/girlfriend carrying your child, or even your mother when she was carrying you. Wouldn’t you want someone to treat her with respect?

    • KeepingItReal

      You’re problem is you are trying to take someone’s personal issue (the right to become pregnant) and make the public responsible for that (getting up from a PAID seat on public transportation). What if there is a man who may have some kind of affliction and standing is painful to him? Look…if standing on a bus is not an option…then…DON’T RIDE THE BUS. Problem solved.

      • WhoHurtYou

        So if a guy is in a wheelchair from being shot, you’re not giving a seat to him because he did gang-related stuff? Or if a woman who is blind after being attacked by a crazy person, that’s her fault for being involved, she doesn’t deserve a seat either? Not everyone owns a car, so people including pregnant woman have to get to doctor appointments or work somehow. This is not about a pregnant woman being lazy, this is about the safety of her and her unborn child and if she stands and if the bus got into an accident and she tips and causes the miscarriage, it’s karma on the people who didn’t offer her a seat.

      • hollyw

        Your problem is trying to make this societal issue, which is men being utterly confused and/or resentful for women’s advances and trying to combat them w/illogical “equality” arguments, into a personal one.

        Fyi, being handicap and elderly are also technically “personal problems”, but have been given the legal right to certain public transportation seats. Our country also has Medicare that our tax dollars pay for. This is also how health insurance works! This is called a collective consciousness, which every successful society has, so if that offends you, then you need to go live in the jungle by yourself, that way no one will ever have to deal with your pregnancy, injuries, and old age “personally”.

  • ChiTown Princess

    I live in Chicago and there are a lot of people who do give up their seats to a pregnant woman, especially if the bus us packed. There are some who don’t do it and someone else will give her a seat. I’ve been pregnant 4 times and had people offer me a seat to sit, all this before my husband got a good paying job and got a SUV for us.

  • QueenOfLife

    I live in NY as well, and while we all are tired from the neverending hustle and bustle, crowding, running to catch transportation, etc. I do think that men should be chivalrous in all occasions, to all women, not just pregnant woman. Lately, I have been feeling as if chivalry has been flat out dead these days Smh..Maybe Im just a young, old fashioned girl lol

  • taz

    Sorry, I’m not getting up for nobody! you can stare at me all you want,,,say whatever. I got my seat first and that’s just it.Im tired too! A old or disabled person yes, but not pregnant. That was your choice to get pregnant while still taking the bus!

    • Karen

      Please tell me you’re either a man or an ignorant selfish b***h who has never been pregnant. I’ve never been pregnant in my life, but my parents raised be better to be kind to others and you get good things in return. So what if I’m tired and if I see a disabled, elderly or PREGNANT woman on the bus, I’ll give up my seat to them regardless and find somewhere else to sit or wait for someone to get up. Not every one has a car, gas is expensive, so don’t judge someone if you don’t know their situation. Thank you and have a blessed day.

      • taz

        thank you, you too

        • Megan

          Yup its just the right thing to do I mean how would u feel If your mom told u people stared at her and watched her stand with swolen ankles while she was pregnant with u and refused to give up their seat.

          • taz

            I would of been like dang mom….lol. what would i do? go burn down a bus station? lol

            • Megan

              No u could think twice and be more courteous to pregnant women. Because u would want someone to do the same to you or a loved one or your pregnant daughter someday.

    • ChiTown Princess

      And when you get old and disabled, or if you’re a woman, pregnant, I hope people do the same to you by not offering you a seat since you do it to them. It’s not about YOU, think of others no matter if they’re disabled or pregnant when you’re out in public.

  • MarriedMomOf2

    Throughout both of my pregnancies, I’ve had people (men and women) get up and let me sit down on buses and trains without me even demanding it and even mothers get their kids up on benches at bus stops to let me sit down. I’ve had friends who experienced people not getting up for them when they’re on the bus/trains, and they stare at them while they’re standing up 8 months pregnant. Even the other day when I went to work, there was a blind man got on the bus and nobody sitting at the front wouldn’t get up and let him sit down while he was looking for a seat, his wife yelled at them calling them ignorant a** mfers. My neighbor sitting with me in the back got them told. Sad we’re living in the “Me, me, me” world today.

  • preggopreneur

    Girl please, get a car….and im 7 mos preggo!

    • QueenOfLife

      You got thumbed down, but I myself wouldnt want to be pregnant or with a big stroller on public transportation..

      • D.D

        Not everyone has that option or maybe something is wrong with the car so she has to take the bus or train for a while…The judgement

        • QueenOfLife

          No judgement at all. I know that things happen with break downs, ppl may not have the money for cabs, and everyone may not have a car (especially in New York). I was simply speaking for myself saying that I wouldn’t feel comfortable on crowded buses or trains being pregnant, especially far along.

    • DeidraJ

      In some cities, its not practical to own a car, and in this economy, not everyone can afford it. We could counter that they shouldn’t be having a baby if they can’t afford things, which is valid but that isn’t the world we live in.

    • Brooke

      I do have a car, just not worth the cost of gas, tolls and parking – nor is it worth sitting in NYC traffic during peak hours. Most people I know in NYC who own cars rarely drive them to and from work – especially if they live in an outer borough but work in Manhattan, like I do. But if driving is easiest for you, that’s great! Congrats!

  • FromUR2UB

    People are a lot more rude these days. A man who doesn’t offer his seat to a pregnant woman, disabled or elderly people, is just not much of a man. As a woman, I’ve offered my seat to pregnant women, people carrying children and the elderly. That’s just basic courtesy. I’ve never been inconvenienced for long because another seat often became available in one or two stops.

    • Keland

      What does offering a seat have to do with one’s gender? If, as a woman I offer my seat to a pregnant woman, does that make me more of a woman or more of a man than a man?

      • FromUR2UB

        Yes, and thumb down.

      • hollyw

        The thing that you keep conveniently not addressing is that the article said nothing about being a woman, but being PREGNANT. This only indirectly indicates gender because women are the only sex to become pregnant!

        Even if you were to change out chivalry (mostly used towards women) with courtesy (used towards all), pregnant women should still get ya seat b/c the very definition of courtesy is “polite behavior that shows respect (I.e. consideration, value) for a person”, and from a societal, biological, AND moral standpoint, pregnant people need more consideration and also hold more biological value in our society than non-pregnant people!

        For you to even apply the ‘equality’argument here, you’d have to pretend either that men can get pregnant or that the more vulnerable existence of pregnancy, which requires more courtesy, care, consideration for this human condition to be successful (i.e. birthing new human into the world), doesn’t exist, which is illogical, b/c if it didn’t, then you wouldn’t even be here!

        Question answered.

        • Keland

          “The thing that you keep conveniently not addressing is that the article said nothing about being a woman, but being PREGNANT.”

          1. Being as though men cannot become pregnant, the article is clearly referring to women.

          2. Even in the title it says “Taking A Stand…Or A Seat: Should Pregnant Women Expect Men To Be Chivalrous?”

          3. The author uses female pronouns when speaking.

          Examples: “I still seem to be amazed at the number of men who don’t offer their seats for pregnant WOMEN on public transportation.”

          “However, pregnancy for a lot of WOMEN takes a huge toll on their body, and if SHE doesn’t have the luxury of staying home and has to use public transportation to get to and from work, that ride can be tricky…and somewhat exhausting.”

          That’s just two examples where the author clearly is speaking about women.

          So, I didn’t conveniently forget to address anything.

          “For you to even apply the ‘equality’argument here…”

          4. What equality argument? I just asked what gender had to do with offering one a seat. And nom you did not answer that question.

          SMH. You created an argument to respond to because you are way off base.

          • hollyw

            No. You just would like to continue addressing the situation with a counter-argument that is illogical, but at the end of the day, you do you.

  • hollyw

    I would add that both men AND women should be giving up their seats for you. I have died this multiple times myself on the subway. Pregnancy does handicap women somewhat, and puts them in a very position, perhaps the most vulnerable possible. Since it takes two to make a baby in our society, men should just as quickly be hopping up to accommodate! It’s not about chivalry, but human decency.

    • KeepingItReal

      If you’re that handicapped by pregnancy…stay home. The world doesn’t revolve around you and your unborn baby.

      • D.D

        You really except every women who gets pregnant to not go to work or live life at all. Then if the are sitting at home not working people complain about them living of the system. Pregnancy is hard on the body it puts strain on every part of you. It is just manners I am young and baby free I can stand comfortably. So I give my seat to people I see I feel need it more. I do feel like It is not a man thing women should get up to. It is not solely a mans responsibility to show common cutesy.

        • KeepingItReal

          I’m old fashioned. This two-income family is BS. For generations…families were raised on ONE income…the wife/mother stayed home. It worked. Today, everyone is so materialistic and greedy so they forego raising their children to buy some more clothes, jewelry or some other BS they don’t need. SITCHOASSDOWN!

          • guest

            you got thumbs down, but there is truth in what you say.

            • HUgrad13

              and yet it has nothing to do with the actual subject.

          • D.D

            Umm have your heard of things like cost of living and inflation. You should look them up because in most big cities it is impossible to survive on one income with kids. Back then stuff was way cheaper now things cost way more and the amount people make working has not changed that much to meet the rise in living cost. You use to be able to survive on retirement to and yet I know and see many and elderly person working a part time job because they say they can not just live off of social security. My grand parents are some of those people. And it is not buying all that extra stuff that is the issue. Everything costs more food, basic clothes, shoes, houses, cars everything basic things you need to live. You use to be able to by a new car for less than $3000. Today you can not even get a decent used car for that. And most families need at least one car especially when they have kids. The amount of money people are making from working the same jobs is not keeping up with the sky rocketing cost of living. So no most families working average jobs can not afford a decent house, one basic car and all the cost in that along with keeping themselves and there children alive on one income. And I know from first had knowledge that it s not possible with most jobs.

            • D.D

              And for the people that can afford it they still need the stay at home parent to run errands and by food and stuff that involves leaving the house often.

          • TheyRout2getMe

            As if men nowadays can pay the bills all by themselves, ha! Why do you think women started working in the first place?

            • Ok.

              My husband actually CAN pay all the bills by himself. The only reason I work is because I want to. Sitting around the house isn’t appealing to me.

      • MarriedMomOf2

        Unless the woman is on bed rest during pregnancy, then she should stay home. Other than that pregnant women is healthy enough go to work to help keep paying the bills and the rent/mortgage, those things don’t stop while a woman is pregnant. Are you a woman? Have you ever been pregnant in your life? If the answer is NO to both, then have a seat and STFU! Wait til you get to the third trimester then it’s really going to be uncomfortable as the baby grows in the womb.

        • KeepingItReal

          I respect your point of view. But, just for women to know…there are A lot of men out there who don’t mind financially supporting their wife. Not girlfriend or boo…But WIFE. So, don’t ignore the option of being a stay at home wife…just saying…..

          • Keland

            Most Black women do not have the option of being a sahm.

            • chanela

              Yes true! Black people would rather do the whole baby mama thing so of course its not an option

              • Keland

                Wait a minute now! That’s not at all what I meant.

            • AfricanAtlantian

              Most black women don’t put a lot of thought as to who could be their potential child(ren)’s fathers. SAHM is a mix of necessity and luxury. No one is entitled to it and it should always be considered with serious thought and agreement from both parents.

          • HUgrad13

            And you realize that even though my mother was a stay at home wife/mom in NYC, she still had things to do called errands, doctors appointments, etc. My dad couldn’t support us financially AND be able to take off all the time during the day to take my mom to do all of those things….people on this website are touched.

      • hollyw

        Actually, it does. The world literally depends on women and their unborn babies to continue populating civilization. Smh.

        • yep

          Not anymore. Test tube babies. All we need are eggs now days.

          • U Big Dummy

            And someone to carry them. Your comment was the most ridiculous I have seen today.

            • yep

              I do what I can! ;-)

          • DeidraJ

            Yeah…how many black men are into THAT idea? ($$$)

          • TheyRout2getMe

            You guys have wombs we don’t know about? Look up “test tube babies” and quit embarrassing yourself.

      • AgreeWyou

        THANK YOU. Your doctor will put you on bed rest if you are too pregnant to stand up.

        • DeidraJ

          Actually, sometimes they don’t. Modern medicine is a joke. Doctors are vested in only what suits their agenda and the pharmaceutical companies throwing money at them to keep keep people on their drugs. You have to trust your own body and hope your insurance co will allow you to find a doctor that will get in line with you.

          • AfricanAtlantian

            Good argument for a Single-Payer system.

      • DeidraJ

        Sure…stay home because that’s realistic. I mean..life completely stops and adult responsibility is no longer expected while you take the time to be pregnant and sick…No one is asking for “the world” just consideration The “people don’t matter” mentality in the black community was never what we were about back in the day. As an “old-fashioned” person, I’d think you’d be able to better understand that. I mean, if you don’t give up your seat, someone else will…so its not like it matters but your argument is so cold and anti-community. That’s problematic for a culture where we are killing each other and disrespecting each other while other races stand by either shaking their heads at us or laughing at us while we rant about how we don’t care about anybody.

  • kiki j

    Chivalry isn’t dead but it’s definitely extinct. And it’s not just New York. In my bus catching days I’ve gotten up for pregnant, handicap and elderly people because no one else would. It’s like who’s raised these men and hopefully they aren’t reproducing.

    • Keland

      By definition, something that is extinct means there are no living members. The opposite of ‘alive’ is ‘dead’.

      Instead of practicing chivalry, why not practice courtesy?

      • kiki j

        Thanks grammar police. I know the definition of extinct considering I learned it somewhere in elementary. I simply failed at multi-tasking. What I meant was chilvary isn’t EXTINCT it’s an ENDANGERED SPECIES! And why not practice chilvary and courtesy?

        • Keland

          If one is courteous then they extend the same respect to both genders.

          • kiki j

            Yeah you should probably Google the definition of chivalry and then get at me bruh.

            • Keland

              • the combination of qualities expected of an ideal knight, esp. courage, honor, courtesy, justice, anda readiness to help the weak.

              • courteous behavior, esp. that of a man toward women: their relations with women were models of chivalry and restraint.

              BASICALLY, chivalry is based on the idea of women being weak.

              Is that good enough for you, bruh?

              • kiki j

                Exactly keyword being ESPECIALLY towards women meaning not limited to. The original meaning of chivalry is medieval and wasn’t solely directed towards women but more so call of duty. Meaning courtesy is partly in definition of chivalry. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Quit being a smart a$$!

        • AfricanAtlantian

          What women consider modern-day chivalry is a perversion of what it once was. It is either simping or its lesser-cousin, white-knighting. To be chivalrous is to extend honor, dignity and courtesy to a woman. Last I checked, being in a transitive stage of biological functions (sex -> birth) does not make a woman automatically deserving of courtesy from every random man (or woman, it is 2k13 nowadays) she comes across. Chivalry, as a widespread concept is something that was part of hierarchical values where gender roles were defined and a woman who was courted or treated in a chivalrous manner was a lady of virtue. Respect towards men and the position of a man has been eroded (especially black men, but lets not open that can of worms), yet women expect men to behave on a system of values that was established and enforced in a time where women could not be property owners, vote, or even have a solid say on who they married. So yeah, good luck with screaming about equality, double-standards, et. all while trying to force “chivalry” upon the modern man.

          Yeah….

  • PreggoNeed2StandUp

    Please. He didn’t knock you up. You don’t need to EXPECT anything. If they feel to do it, cool. If not, keep it moving. I’m a woman (with a child) and I don’t give my seat to anyone. First come, first serve.

    • SMDHinDisgust

      You sound like a bitter somebody who’s never been treated properly. That’s sad.

      • PreggoNeed2StandUp

        I’m sorry you feel that way. My husband treats me like a Queen and I love him for it. However, I don’t expect anything from the rest of the world and you shouldn’t either. I don’t have to worry about riding public transportation unless i’m visiting family upstate, so available seats aren’t really a big issue for me.

        • Billie Boston

          Then I feel bad for your husband because he’s married to a selfish old heifer like you! Bet your husband will give his seat to a pregnant woman when he’s on the bus or train.

          • BabyBlue

            Heifer equals classic that was funny

          • PreggoNeed2StandUp

            That’s very thoughtful of you. Rest assured, he is well taken care of, so your emotions are misplaced. Also, my husband can do what he wants with his seat. He is his own person and I would never discourage him for doing something he feels he should do. However, I don’t feel the need to. So, I don’t.

    • hollyw

      Isn’t that what she said..?

  • Keland

    No person should expect anything from anyone because of gender. This shouldn’t be an ongoing discussion. Woman or man – if a woman who is pregnant or someone who is temporarily or permanently disabled, or elderly boards the bus or subway or whatever, all you (woman or man) has to do is ask her/him if she/he would like to sit.

    • hollyw

      … every women are the only sex that can actually get pregnant.

      • Keland

        “every women are the only sex that can actually get pregnant.”

        What?

        • hollyw

          It was a typo. Was supposed to be “except”.

          • TheyRout2getMe

            Whose fault is that? You think we petitioned for the privilege? It will cost you nothing so why is this even an argument?

            • PreggoNeed2StandUp

              I think you missed Hollyw’s point.

            • hollyw

              I don’t understand what you mean, sorry.

            • hollyw

              Idk what you’re even talking about as far as cost, but you apparently don’t know how privilege works. In a male-dominated society, you already have the power so privilege is automatic; there is no petition.

  • tgghjb

    Pleeaase I was treated like a queen everywhere I went. That’s how it should b! WE r bringin these new ppl into the world. Nicca u better get up! Lol

    • PreggoNeed2StandUp

      Please. I don’t care about how many babies YOU pop out. I didn’t ask you to get pregnant and I didn’t get you pregnant, so I am not responsible for treating you any kind of way. Feel entitled if you want. You will be disappointed lol

      • hollyw

        You’re so proud of yourself, too. Lol disgrace…

        • PreggoNeed2StandUp

          Sure am. I don’t expect special treatment and I don’t give any. Everyone hollers about equality, right? I treat everyone equally and I don’t get up for anybody.

          • hollyw

            That ‘equality’argument is ill-placed (since men can’t even have babies, so no comparison) and apparently misunderstood, from your perspective. Equality is supposed to be about how you would want someone to treat you if in the same situation (fairly). Again, since men can’t get pregnant, you just sound silly trying to compare one situation to another that doesn’t even exist. They can only behave how they’d want from others, which is with human decency.

            • PreggoNeed2StandUp

              Where in my statement did I say I was talking about men? I am a woman. According to your statement “Equality is supposed to be about how you would want someone to treat you if in the same situation” – my statement stands. I am not obligated to give up my seat and if I were in the same situation, I would not feel entitled to a seat.

              • hollyw

                No it doesn’t, as consideration is not the same thing as entitlement. In fact, they’re virtual opposites, and to say that you were ever pregnant and would not want a seat, or badly need one at one point, is disingenuous.

          • DeidraJ

            Thats not “special treatment.” It’s decent treatment. Pregnancy is 9 months of exhaustion, aches, pains, discomfort, nausea, vomiting, and otherwise disgusting mess.Giving up your seat to someone who is in a less comfortable situation than you is not a matter of pride. It’s not a matter of equal rights or game that they win if they can get you to get up. It’s simply compassionate and decent. Not cool.

            • PreggoNeed2StandUp

              Call it what you’d like, but it IS special treatment.

      • kierah

        Did you make people disabled or elderly either? Do you think that you shouldn’t get up for them either. Your argument is hollow. It’s part of being part of a civil and caring society.

        • PreggoNeed2StandUp

          I don’t give my seat to them either. So….no, I shouldn’t get up for them. First come, first serve.

          • Billie Boston

            Wow, what a selfish b***h you are, if I saw you disrespecting my grandmother like that when she takes the bus, I would grab you and throw you off the moving bus so my granny or anyone who needs a seat can sit there. You don’t own a seat on public transportation, just paying a fare so you can get to your destination.

            • PreggoNeed2StandUp

              Call me whatever you’d like, but you won’t lay a finger on me. Believe that. Just because you disagree with my views does NOT mean you can lay a hand on me. This is America, buddy. Like you said, you don’t own a seat. First come, first serve.

      • Keland

        If you become handicapped, I am not responsible for you because I didn’t make you handicap or ask you to be handicap, so I am not responsible for considering that you may need a seat.

        • PreggoNeed2StandUp

          That is correct. If you choose to do so, that is great, but I will not expect it.

      • Chey

        You are so right! I and many other people who have manners would most definitely not have a problem giving up our seat. However, not everyone is like that. If you go in with the expectation that someone is automatically gonna give up their seat for you, reality is gonna set in pretty quickly.

      • ReelTauk

        I wonder if your mother was so disrespected by men like yourself when she was doing her best to carry you into the world. You should ask her. That should be interesting…

        • PreggoNeed2StandUp

          I am a woman and I doubt it. My father drove my mother everywhere when she was pregnant, all 3 times. He didn’t want anything to happen and him not be around for it.

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