Black Men Vs. Black Women: Can We Squash The Beef?

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May 23, 2013 ‐ By

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Yesterday my friend texted me about what I’m sure he thought was a funny story. But after I reading it and analyzing it, I was just pissed off. I’ll share it and you let me know if you have a similar reaction.

The short version of the story is my friend was hanging out with some Israelites who were teaching out in the street. Just as one of the teachers is reading a passage about female modesty, a woman in thin, elastic stretch pants walks by. According to my friend they were some “look at me” pants and her booty was jiggling inside them. But instead of scurrying by, the woman turns around and starts shouting at the people gathered in front of the teacher.

“I’m hot I can’t be wearing all them layers… I ain’t dressing like no one’s grandmama!”

*Sigh of exasperation of our fellows sistahs in the hood struggle.*

After baby girl caused her scene, the Israelite, who I’m assuming is not black, leans over and says “All THIS is why black men only date white women.”

*Hold up…*

But then it gets worse. A black man who’d witnessed the whole scene and heard what the comment the Israelite made says:

“Who you telling?! I can’t even see myself with a black woman.”

It’s funny that when black men reference black women’s attitudes as reason not to date them, my first gut reaction is to exhibit that same type of attitude they’re describing. I really wanted to just laugh at my friend’s anecdote and keep it moving but the black man’s comment disturbed me just as much as the hood chick popping off in the middle of religious instruction.

I asked my friend what did he say to the man? He said he asked him, “No black woman for you at all?” And the man reiterated his point.

“I can’t even see it.”

I responded: “If he can’t picture it, then what could you have said? Both people in that situation sound ignorant honestly.” (If I had thought about it, I would’ve said all three because the Israelite was just as lost.)

Really though, the whole situation worked my nerves. While I would never be out here trying to convince brothas that don’t want to date black women that we’re not all like that, I’m highly perturbed at the way in which black men are so quick to publicly express their distaste for black women.

Where they do that at?

I mean really, have you ever heard another race of people, besides black folk talk so publicly and so stereotypically against women in their own race?

I don’t understand it. And honestly, it’s quite hurtful. When the world is ready to stereotype us and write us off, you would think black men would be able to see past all that. Of course there are black women out here who fit every stereotype in the book but certainly these black men know at least a handful of black women who aren’t like that.

I was telling my friend that black women would rarely speak about black men in the same negative fashion, in the street like that.  Even though we know there are brothas out here who are living foul, we’re not deriding them in the streets, swearing that we would never date them.

For better or worse, black women have been conditioned to support black men. Now, I don’t mean supporting them through all types of abuse and foolishness. I mean, being the encouragement, whether platonic or otherwise, in a country that consistently tries to hold them down.

I said that; but really, after further reflection, writing for MadameNoire for about three years, has shown me that that’s not exactly true. There have been too many times, where black women have proclaimed, maybe out of bitterness, hurt or frustration, they’re going to “get a white man.” To me, that’s equally infuriating.

What is with black folk dismissing an entire race, our own race, when it comes to the dating pool? It’s ignorant. And more importantly, quite sad that we’re gulping the Kool-Aid “Willie Lynch” has been offering us for centuries.

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  • Come on now…

    This is complete nonsense. Since when did black women stop deriding black men about every imaginable social ill? Since when have they been taught to SUPPORT!!?? black men? Are we joking?? The quality of the product creates the demand. If black men are choosing not to be with black women, please stop blaming the men. Blame the product–i.e. the black woman.

  • Judy

    Just proves again that a good black man is hard to find!

  • for real

    What happened to person loving you for youare.

  • for real

    Most black women don’t want to date a average hardworking black man they want a black man that looks like like som movie star a has a lot of money.

  • blackdiamondstudbrad1953

    OH,PLEASE!!!!Lots of other groups of men aren’t keen about thei women,but black broads ALWAYS belittle and emasculate their men.(Besides,of course,being 5’4″,250-300 lb.!!!!!)

  • Michell

    Yes, a lot of the new generation of black woman aren’t worth a second look and I will gladly attest to that. My only sister and several cousins, childhood friends are LIFE-LONG welfare, drama-filled, hood rats that these “Say NO to black women” folks talk about. And I, myself, am guilty of the following: I am too strong-willed, and I DON’T and WON’T let any man lead me, I have couple of tattoos, and while I don’t typically get loud there will likely be some neck rolling and eye rolling when I’m telling you off. And I’m not apologizing or changing. Personally, I don’t want a man who feels my “place” shouldn’t be one of leadership. I am college-educated, am buying my own home, and don’t live pay-check to check… my bills are paid automatically through my bank and I don’t have to check my account to make sure I’m ok, I cut my own yard, I CAN change my own oil and tires though I choose not to, and I do my own home repairs if I know how to, and if I don’t I’ll “google it” in a minute. My point? I am grown, of sound mind, and capable of thinking for myself, why do I need my man to “LEAD” me. But if you respect and support me, I will do the same. I want a man who is secure enough to let me be strong in my own right and I won’t compromise, even if that mean’s I’ll never marry, have kids (which I don’t want anyway), or be on the coveted arm so the “successful black man”. If that’s what successful black men are looking for, well “brutha” point me in the direction of the Meow Mix and Fancy Feast. As far as I see, going outside the race isn’t the all glitter and gold, they still deal with drama, cheating, and divorce with non-Blacks. Furthermore, those same colleagues in which they present a “polished” woman to, still may not respect them behind close doors simply because of the color of their skin. So I say this to my beautiful black sisters who are EDUCATED, SUCCESSFUL, DRAMA-FREE, and just plain GOOD-NATURED: there is hope just look at OUR PRESIDENT and FIRST LADY. While I know nothing of them personally, I’m sure they are equals in their relationship and it’s working just fine. So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop giving so much attention to those who do not think we are worthy. Their minds are made and NOTHING we do will change that. When you see a black man with a non-Black woman, don’t take it personally or let it have any bearing on your worth. Live is too short, focus your energy elsewhere. We are strong and yes, (remember they tried to paint our First Lady as a Mad Black Woman) for not candy-coating her message/ delivery. We as Black Women will ALWAYS be denigrated some way or another by black men as well as outside the race sure as there will ALWAYS be racism. Continue to be true to yourself and don’t apologize for it. Lastly, to black men who don’t and won’t dare give Black women a chance, it’s your God given right and I wish you nothing but the best.

  • gina

    5 White women and 1 Hispanic FREED George Zimmerman and Black men are
    still talking crap about Black women. I didn’t see any White, Asian or
    Hispanic women at the Trayvon Martin rallies, you know why? Because they
    don’t care about you! Checkmate violent jailbird!

  • gina

    5 White women and 1 Hispanic FREED George Zimmerman and Black men are
    still talking crap about Black women. I didn’t see any White, Asian or
    Hispanic women at the Trayvon Martin rallies, you know why? Because they
    don’t care about you! Checkmate jailbird!

  • Anthony

    I wouldn’t say the black race is beyond repair, being a black male, I feel all races have their own share of issues back that is another topic, I can agree to disagree on the issue you are stating but drama comes in all relationship there is no perfect couple there are only couples who are committed to one another that have successful marriages, or relationships, we are flawed as a human race regardless of how successful or how much money we have but we can’t be judgemental, There are truly some good woman out there in the world that have good hearts and are waiting for a good black man, we have to do the searching, as it says in the bible a man that finds a good wife finds a good thing, also nice guys need to really learn patience it is one of our strong qualites without it we would be impatient and bitter willing to settle for anything.

    As for the ghetto, dramafide (not sure if that is a word, Lol), loud mouth black woman out there we truly can’t judge them, example if you picture a young girl growing up in a not so good neighborhood who only had a single mom who was uneducated never had a positve male in her life to influence her was raised by television and the bad environments, you can’t really be surprise as to what they become when they get older. Some of these woman need a positive male influence who is nice and charming and not afraid to speak the truth. I have seen honest nice guys turn a so called ghetto girl into a respectable woman who learn the values and respect of a positive role model, now don’t get me wrong I said some not all, but really everyone deserve a chance, we have been so brain washed that we look at looks and body types, I mean we are men after all but we really should be looking at the heart.

    I would so choose an okay woman with a good heart even if she has kids then a very attractive woman with no heart at all. Nice guys there is a time to be nice and at time to be honest, women don’t need a nice guy 24/7. We need to step up cause we sure are good at complaining about not finding a good woman but will not put the effort to give them a chance because they don’t meet our standards, really life is too short to be picky, now I’m not saying settle for anything but give them a chance you will know if they are good for you or not but read the book first not just the cover. Hope this helps any nice guy out there who truly wants to find someone and all the fake nice guys (please stop destroying our endangered species.)

  • D Hedon

    As a vertically challenged, educated BM, I understand the frustration that a lot of us BM have when dealing with our black women. Many of us, including myself would love to date and marry black women; however, we are constantly being looked over for various reasons. The reason I constantly hear is related to my height. Many black women VEHEMENTLY express their preference in NOT dating short men. Why are black women allowed to publicly state their preferences in dating and we black men are supposed to understand and respect your preferences, but when black men state their preferences, it’s a major issue.

    • Guestest

      Aw c’mon now.. Some women of all races don’t like short men.

  • ConsciousBM

    Great article just a bit “wowish” on your part as well. Why does your friend get to be the red flag of an epidemic of Sista-bashing among ALL brothas. Certainly there at sistas with the same attitude and engage in the same bashing activities. If you’re going to do an article called BM vs BW at least have it be fair and balanced.

  • Truthhurts

    Look at how the “sistas” attacked the brotha who spoke his truth. Conviction is at times hurtful. But if the truth hurts, consult a mirror. I applaud this man for not accepting the garbage he sees by observation & not by attraction. Today’s black woman is the bane of today’s black man. Now watch the hostile, masculine, head weavin, self-righteous “mothers of the earth” attack me. Come on & prove me right.

    • ConsciousBM

      Wrong!! there’s so much human garage in the African-American community that many weak willed but otherwise smart individuals give up and look outside of their race for normality (because it’s not love if you get with someone based on race that’s fetishizing). I pity those people. They gave up on the advancement of the Black race by giving up on the Black family and their god given gift to be able to create one.

  • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

    Did you even bother to read anything I typed, MEGAN???? AND I HIGHLY DOUBT I’LL BE CLEANING ANYTHING AT YOUR WEDDING, BECAUSE LET’S FACE IT…..”I” do not associate with the help, or those I deem “BENEATH” me, and that includes you…..

  • QleanQlassy Atlanta

    THIS THREAD SHOWS WHY WE CANT STOP THE BEEF

    the guys are being respectful and having a conversation while the females lack of conversation causes them to lash out and disrespect the males for not agreeing will madamenoire ever be honest and point this out to females that a conversation is not name calling

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  • Kiera

    I really don’t know which is worse, the ghetto people or the self-haters. The thing that really saddens me is that it seems that within the black community, there’s no in between.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kisha.jones.35 Kisha Jones

    I wonder what’s the quality of non-black women you date? Don’t answer it was rhetorical. Do you know what rhetorical mean? I see you are extremely ignorant so i will try to use elementary words. I guarantee an ignorant person like yourself get non bw that are equally ignorant and uneducated as you. No non bw or bw for that matter, that is educated, well groomed, and successful will take you serious. So I’m extremely sure your white girl is nothing to brag on. May the two of you live happily ever after.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kisha.jones.35 Kisha Jones

    And thanking us for taking care of their dirty work

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  • FromUR2UB

    “I said that; but really, after further reflection, writing for MadameNoire for about three years, has shown me that that’s not exactly true. There have been too many times, where black women have proclaimed, maybe out of bitterness, hurt or frustration, they’re going to “get a white man.” To me, that’s equally infuriating.”
    Really kind of glad author added this part, because it is done quite frequently. If it’s going to be done on the internet, where it can be read worldwide, then what’s the difference making the statements literally on the street? There are a lot of hurt folks on both sides of the fence. Men lashing out at women, and women lashing out at men. People think if they can inflict pain upon those they seem to feel are collectively responsible for their own, they’ll feel some relief. But, it doesn’t work. It’s too late for the grownups; their minds are already made up. There are also too many circumstances that have brought us to this point. I won’t even bother to get into those because people are gonna do what they want, and refuse to see how those actions contribute to bigger problems.

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  • KamJos

    Black women act tough because Black men are not protectors of Black women. A woman needs a safe space to act feminine and vulnerable. A Black women living in an average Black U.S. city has probably had Black men preying on her since she entered puberty, (if not before). No one comes to our defense. If a Black girl goes missing she might as well be dead. There is no room for woman to be soft and vulnerable in that environment. Black men have created a whole genre of music that focuses on degrading Black women. Black male celebrities line their pockets by making fun of Black women or saying negative things about them, with little to no outcry from any one else besides Black women themselves.

    • ConsciousBM

      “If I ever dated a Black man” <- everything I need to know before I tell you to shut up even though there is a lot and I mean a lot of truth to what you said. Expect your mistaking class issues with race issues than you blame a industry that most educated people hate. Men hate Nicki Minaj and Lil Wayne more than women do for crying out loud. Black women keep a lot of those neo-coons in business and if a black man is shot in broad daylight in a public setting than its still a good chance the killer will get off scott free. In a poor depressed community the men often feel the need to be hyper-masculinity and SAME with the women. Good black men who come from those enviroment just want acknowledgement for resisting all the temptation not unlike black women. You want us good black men to take over the community and lead us in the right direction yet you don't want to trust a GBM to begin with and you definitely don't want to be led by him. What you want is a way out of the community while holding on to your black card because you can't become white but you don't want to navigate through all the challenges a lot of black people go through to find a soulmate.

  • On_Point

    I try to avoid these topics, because mn and bawsip like to use these as troll magnets o get more hits. Thus selling out their own just to get ad money.

  • On_Point

    lol ok

  • Kay

    So you’re telling me you’ve dated EVERY black woman on this earth and found this to be true? Sounds legit……… -__-

  • Herm Cain

    Chuuch!!!! I said it before I feel bad for the brothers that don’t get the opportunity to experience something different

  • Adrina

    I’m sure some white people reading this and lol saying “these n—-s are so ridiculous”. Instead of bw vs bm, it should be black ppl vs everyone else. Black ppl as a whole is look upon as nothing. How many of you experienced discrimination in all aspects of life? White ppl did a number on us by turning us against each other.
    If you date outside your race because it’s a preference….fine! But to do it bc you think ALL bm or all bw are a certain way is ignorant! We all have our flaws, and no one is going to jump up and own up to it…bm or bw, so get over it. We as a black race should stand together. Look at other races….they support each other businesses, build their neighborhoods and ensure NO ONE tear it down, and they raise their children to do the same in a traditional family structure. So instead of writing articles about beef between bm and bw, let’s get something on how to unite despite our opinions of each other.

  • Just saying!!

    I think it’s funny how this comment section just further proves that this article is very relevant. But hopefully…the “black men” commenting and saying those disgusting things are just trolls. Hard to take them seriously anyway….

  • Just saying!!

    I have never said I’m going to go out an get white man but I had said before that I probably need to find a black man NOT in this country because they have too many problems. Truth be told, I used to be a lot more patient than I am now. I have internalized a lot of the hatred towards black women from black men and that has made me quite resentful. They have no idea how hurtful it is to defend them all the time just to have them crap on your face. I hate to say it but I think internalizing this has made me very angry and bitter towards black men, which I’m much too young to be. Besides, I don’t want to be as ignorant as those black men who lump us into one big category. I have always been a very sweet person and anyone who knows me would never attribute those stereotypes to my character. But when black men say things like that…I do have the instinct to “go there”. I think it actually is quite the curse that black women have been conditioned to love black men. Really though, to be stuck loving something/someone that will never value you and treats you as an inferior pest. It’s quite self-destructive. But I agree it must be resolved somehow.

    • ConsciousBM

      Cry me a river build a bridge and jump over it. For everything you just said there is a black men who saying the same. Stop fueling the Gender war and start focusing and how to help. I’m sure non-American black men don’t want a American black girl with baggage which is clearly what you have. I been there resentful of black women then I read some great book, Brainwashed: Challenging the Myth of Black Inferiority and Post Traumatic Slavery Disorder, afterwards I was too wise to hate a sister just because her struggles and self-hate cause her to lash out at me. I still look at Black American women as my queen I just know for a fact that a lot of them have lost their crowns. It’s okay to laugh at these princes and princesses turned urban jesters but it’s important that you build your own black kingdom. There are too few left.

  • get real

    What beef? All of this “beef” is internet nonsense. Black men are checking for black women and vice versa in the real world. So where are you people getting this stuff from? I will say this though, black women started the “bm ain’t ish” foolishness long before any black man had any problem with black women. White man gave you section 8 housing, then food stamps and that’s when the independent “I don’t need no man” stuff came in. And the white man was slick, he said “you can have all of this under one condition”, and what is that? “You can’t have a man living with you”. Some slick stuff and his plan has worked perfectly up until this very day.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kisha.jones.35 Kisha Jones

      If a man is living with you then you shouldn’t need all that assistance because he should be an asset to your situation and not coming up off your freebies. I sure as hell wouldn’t have a man living in my rentless house eating up my stamps. No boo help get me tf out of here! And by the way they don’t say you can’t have a man living with you they say his income has to be included and he can’t have any felonies. Smart women don’t let the man in their situation bc 50% of the Time those men are why they lose their assistance.

      • ConsciousBM

        Wow great logic you hood-booger, to elaborate Section 8 and food stamps also go hand and hand with the prison industrial complex. You hoodrats are so proud of your government subsidize homes that you’re scared to go and get your own. 50% of time hoodrat hook up with losers and the resulting drama ends up getting them both put out only you will get a new place and he will go to jail. Chances are your male kids will eventually go to jail too and you’ll be glad to throw them into the system the first time they mess up because you don’t want to risk losing your house. Your type give single mothers a bad name. If you kept a man around in the first place maybe you wouldn’t need to risk losing your precise assistance from your real man (The white power dynamic).

        • kiki j

          Wow extremely ignorant. No I’m not on housing. aassistance I have a mortgage in the suburbs of Ohio, with my husband and father of my two kids and I’m very educated and so is he. Yes I grew up on public assistance but I didn’t become a product of my environment because my mother raised me to be successful. Kudos to her, a strong single black woman. I feel sorry for any woman black or white desperate enough to date you.

          • ConsciousBM

            Yawn* another inarticulate claim that i’m ignorant followed by an “I feel sorry for the woman who dates you” remark. Step your game up, a girl trying to shame me online isn’t going to stop women from approaching me in real life. You was the one who insinuated that you was on section 8 and began championing for them. You should have kept your mouth shut btw how do you figure it’s the men that ruin their situation was that something you noticed from your strong black single mother?

            • kiki j

              never did i say i was on section 8 you assumed and no that wasn’t my mothers situation but it happens every day. I sadly know too many women lose housing because of their bd selling drugs and having swat raid their place. Or simply because they have them living in the home without having them on the app. My point is that if you are struggling as a woman with children don’t allow a man that isn’t helping your situation into your home. That’s not to say that there aren’t positive black men out there because there are plenty. My husband being one. And it’s a sad truth that there will be plenty of insecure women that will approach someone so ignorant as you. But you are what you attract so maybe it’s not that sad. I’m done debating with a fool though so have a happy day.

              • ConsciousBM

                Learn the difference between insinuate and said than call someone ignorant, that’s all I’m saying. Your so stupid your still hanging around women whose BD sell drugs yet your married and raising kids.
                I completely agree you shouldn’t let negative people in your life yet you give women a free pass to be as ratchet as they want to be and then justify their lack of man as them protecting themselves.
                Those women need to find a good man in order to get out of their situation.
                They need to be better evaluators of men but they won’t have to be if women like you keep sheltering them from criticism. You didn’t have to respond to Guest but like a self-righteous black feminist you jump in defense of women who really don’t deserve defending. A perfect enabler for all faulty women. Now the debate is done.

                • kiki j

                  It was finished before it started. And I never “insinuated” either you assumed. And who I choose to be around, as I am a case worker for CMHA housing authority, is my business and my profession. And no I’m not a feminist. I’d feel the same way if it were reversed. It’s funny you tell me i didn’t have to comment on guest yet you commented on my post. Your only defense is to be offensive which shows your education and ignorance level.

                  • ConsciousBM

                    Thought you was done debating with a fool lol and what is it that I have to be defensive about? I came on strong because guest made a simple point and you had to be that one sista to try to challenge it simply because it was unflattering to certain women who you feel for. I should of left you alone and I did start the name calling but why is it whenever someone say anything about black women no matter how unscrupulous their behavior, other black women will come running to defend them?

                    According to you a brother who got his stuff together is suppose to come skipping along and see these women and their bastard children and be like, “My gorgeous mother of mecca please allow me a black man with a good job and no criminal record to cohabit the same government dorm as you and your many starving mouths. Allow me to help get you and your kids out of poverty even though I could progress a lot quicker on my own or with a sista that didn’t get knocked up by a drug dealing goon with swag”.

                    Most of the men these women are going to attract will probably be on the lesser end of the dating spectrum. Some might have criminal records and some may be underemployed but you know what that’s the dating reality of being a single mother on section 8. You might find a captain save-a-hoe but those simps are few and far between.

                    If black women was more proactive in dismantling the prison industrial complex and making sure their goons with swag could find work or at least be able to live with their children once they leave jail than maybe just maybe there would be less fatherless homes but nope women on section 8 mostly care about staying on section 8.

                    They don’t mind when that drug money is putting food in the cabinet and clothes and their kids but once the cops show up they cry victim. That’s hypocritical especially considering how a lot of those men hustle in order to have untaxed income so they can continue living with their kids and be of service to them.

                    You see, even a women on section 8 feels like she’s a step up from a black man. She will berate them for no being able to find substantial work in a job depressed community where she doesn’t even work. She will belittle him until he feels so unlike a man that he makes a stupid decision and decide to sell drugs.

                    They could live off of government assistance as a poor but solid family unit at least until something gives and one of them find a great job but no the women will run a guy out of the house she didn’t buy because she feels like that handout gave her power and it did now she can be independent and do bad all by herself.

                    • kiki j

                      Let me apologize on behalf of the section 8 woman who sent your drug dealing as running! Because obviously that must have been your situation. Or perhaps I am assuming that you insinuated so. Either way your theories are ridiculous. And you are right i am ashamed to continue a foolish conversation with a fool. Good night.

                    • ConsciousBM

                      Never start a sentence with and or because. Also merely saying my “theories” are ridiculous doesn’t fortify your argument. If anything it just shows how ill-prepared you are for any real discussion.

                    • kiki j

                      No it shows how finished I am.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amanda-Robertson/100000963256385 Amanda Robertson

    For those black men and black women in loving relationships? I guess this don’t apply to you. Sad this seems to play out only on world wide web to this degree. Cause honestly? I still see black couples around go figure.

    • Huh?

      I am a proud and educated black woman in a successful relationship with a wonderful black man. I have never experienced this bm vs. bw until I started reading blogs.

      • On_Point

        me too

      • Blackhawk

        Exactly!

  • moni

    Those people look good together.

  • Gina

    I’m happily married to a White man, nobody want a criminal (Black men) for a husband!

    • anonymouse

      your white husband could be a criminal too……and you don’t even know it. ask gary ridgway’s wife. and the 4 idiots that co-signed your nonsense can kick rocks also.

  • Its A Wonderful Life

    I married a black man… Im mixed… as far as Im concerned nothing is outside my race.. I date whom I choose… it depends on how Im treated no matter the race… Ive raised two beautiful daughters as a single parent after my divorce and Ive yet to be married again… its a choice not a circumstance…. I believe this forum has gotten completely out of hand…. I can say this both my daughter are married to successful black men and they wouldnt know the first thing about being ‘hood’ bc they were never raised in one… I believe all races have some sterotypical behavior that is viewed by society as negative.. but it always beehoves me as to why the black culture is exploited much more… bm vs bw… light skin vs dark skin…whats even more wretching is the black man and woman feed into the negativity as noted by the 86 comments and most of them to one person… there is nothing that one person could have expressed to bait me as an intelligent woman into that trilogy of a rant… but what I could say is that in my professional opinion I would have him committed to the first mental institution in my immediate area…. and professionally I could do that bc it is apparent his deep seated issues are noted in all that banter… granted everyone is entitled to their own opinion except when it infringes on others… the grandiose view of himself is narcissist *borderline personality disorder with a dissociative identity disorder* that stems from childhood and and only a matter of time before we see him on the 1700(5pm) news…*we just wont know its him*…. I generally do not delight in engaging in any negative manner but he is certainly a prime example of why some white women deserve to have a particular black man… she honestly did all bw a favor… Now I could come in and boast of all 4 of my degrees… house in the suburbs… the vehicles I own… my 401k… my diversifed portfolio… the rationale behind no having a tattoo… more ball gowns than I know what to do with… who my guy is and what he owns… where he works… where I work… * and yes he’s a black man* and so forth and so on… but what would that prove…. about the same as the comments that person made…. it was all useless.. debate is only productive if its healthy and on task….

    • get real

      Girl, please. You are black. I’m so sick of you coarse haired, brown skinned biracial people talking this nonsense.

      • Sexxy Redd

        you sir are funny!!!! There’s my pic… (Former name It’s a Wondeful Life)….

        • mac

          you have grown married children. Which would make you a bit old to be going by a ghetto, p0rnstar sounding name like “Sexxy Redd”. No?
          Also funny that you talk about colorism in your previous post, yet your name “Redd” is a direct reference to the very colorism you’re denouncing.
          Since you’ve posted a picture of yourself, go ahead and post a picture of your “4 degrees, multiple cars, suburban house, and ballgowns”, because I think I speak for everyone when I say, we don’t believe you, you need more people.

          • Sexxy Redd

            if you were expecting me to come back at you, here’s my answer to that: You have to be a pretty important person to piss me off or worth it. I can refer you to someone for those issues that even Ray Charles could see. Deal with yourself. I got this *wink*

      • Love

        dazzzam…. I know your face got cracked even hiding behind the guest post!!!! now that ish was funny and people disliked your post… double crack!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/kisha.jones.35 Kisha Jones

      I almost could agree if you didn’t come off as arrogant and gloating. Then you go on to say you won’t brag about this that and the third But then went on to brag about this that and the third. I don’t get it. And while its great your kids weren’t raised in the hood you came across as if they are better than because of it which is offensive. Lots of people, Even on this sight was raised in the hood and there’s nothing wrong with it. It’s when you allow yourself and your children to become a product of the hood when it’s a bit distasteful.

      • Guest

        darling you COMPLETELY missed the entire conversation on the idiot who was posting about what white women have do and everything else… she was posting to his nonsense… so play fair and catch up before you spew your hatred of another sista…. #eyeroll

  • No Half Stepping

    I would never again in life be caught with a black “man.” The mindsets of white males vs. blacks is simply mind-blowing. Mutual respect is common sense with a white man. Black males? Not so much. It’s funny how black “men” have the very characteristics they claim to hate in black women: bytchy, greedy, gossippers, loud / proud. Too many of them are g-y, abusive or drunk and I refuse to put my health at risk.

    They hate us and to that I say “good riddance!”

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      SO LEAVE ALREADY……..DO YOU NEED HELP PACKING??? HOW ABOUT CAB FARE FOR A RIDE TO THE AIRPORT??? I’LL PAY IT PERSONALLY, AND I DON’T CARE WHO YOU GO WITH , JUST AS LONG AS YOU PROMISE TO NEVER COME BACK, SO GO, AND DON’T LOOK BACK!!!!!

  • Bumbling Black Man

    Interesting. I wasn’t going to comment at first because the comments section has become a minefield! My two cents though, I have a few acquaintances that have given up on their own race of men/women, (I’ve met white dudes that only date sistas, some white girls that only date Oriental men, black women that will date other black women and men of other races, but won’t date black men, and etc) but sadly, the number blacks I know giving up on their race far outnumber the other races. So I know there’s at least some truth to this article. While I don’t SUPPORT the “giving up” sentiment, I can at least UNDERSTAND to a degree someone giving up because of their bad experiences. While some people can bounce back from that, and see the big picture, those wounds cut some people deeper than others.

    Yeah, some people made foolish choices, and then some people are sneaky a– bastards that take a long time to figure out. Some people live in areas where finding a good black man/woman is like finding real Gucci at Dollar Tree. Some people didn’t have a mom or dad growing up to teach them right from wrong. Just to use myself as an example, my dad (a preacher) didn’t teach me anything about women, just wanted me to ignore them, and focus on school. I did that, but didn’t start really trying to be more than friends with women until recently, and I’m struggling mightily lol. Point is, there are so many different different factors that come into play with why some people do the things they do. We’ve all got problems, I can’t knock someone else because they do too, I just hope they’re happy. You could call people, close-minded, ignorant, sellout, whatever you want for “giving up,” but at the end of the day, this is just one of many problems that the black race has to deal with. Our race has to deal with issues like do-nothing-while-the-woman-takes-care-of-you n-ggas, our brothas clogging up the prison system, our beautiful queens and princesses aspiring to be video ho-s, our youth being mis-educated/uneducated about black history, having jurisdiction maps around the US being revised so black votes don’t count, being underemployed, black-on-black crime, being exploited by the media, falling subject to racist whites and Hispanics, and so much more.

    • Kay

      VERY
      well said! I completely agree with you! No need to say anymore. Kudos!

  • mac

    I’ve seen quite enough. I think I’ll be taking my readership elsewhere and I encourage others to do the same. Sites like The Root and Clutch Magazine with actual talented writers who can write about Black issues, not the latest episode of Love and C*onery, or some article about celebrities’ feet.

    MN has willingly become part of the problem, and I’m not here for it.

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      GREAT……THEN LEAVE ALREADY……

  • BlackDiamond

    This black man can’t see himself dating black women. So can he explain the many white men and men of other races who love, date, and worship black women?

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      HA HA!!!!! KEEP THINKING THAT THEY LOVE YOU WHEN IN REALITY, ONCE THEY GET YOU BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, YOU’RE EVERYTHING BUT A CHILD OF GOD…..BETTER YET, SEE WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THEY BRING YOU TO MEET THEIR WHITE PARENTS………

      • Guestest

        Hmm the same thing that will happen when your white girl takes you to meet her parents…

    • No Half Stepping

      As a black woman who keeps black males beyond arm’s length, I’ll never understand white women’s fascination with black males (as well as stupid black women who’d rather die alone than to date outside of the black race.)

      • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

        IF YOU KEEP US BLACK MEN AT ARM’S LENGTH, WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE, STUPID???? IT’S OBVIOUS THAT WE AREN’T CHECKING FOR YOU, BECAUSE IF WE WERE, YOU WOULDN’T BE HERE RIGHT NOW…..LOL!!!!!

        • Gina

          Why are you on here again?

          • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

            Simple: I choose to be…..

  • Senait Ashenafi

    I don’t date black men anymore because honestly…I hate them. They’ve hurt me in ways that are unforgivable. The devil doesn’t get any sympathy from me.

    • mac

      clap for yourself, Miss Veronica Wells. After all, comments like this are exactly what you were going for, right?

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      PERHAPS YOU DID THINGS THAT MADE THEM WANT TO HURT YOU, AND PERHAPS BLACK MEN ARE A LOT BETTER OFF NOT DATING YOU ANYWAYS, BECAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE DAMAGED GOODS, Ms. TINA……

      • Senait Ashenafi

        I don’t care what you think or what you have to say. You’re trash. Be gone wanna be bougie negra. You are not Dr. Phil. Karma is going to make the wicked ones pay.

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          HA HA HA HA HA!!!! OH YEAH…..I’LL BE PAYING, ALRIGHT…..GOOD THING I HAVE A GREAT CAREER, GOOD CREDIT, AND A LOT OF MONEY IN MY BANK ACCOUNTS, PLUS A LOT OF WOMEN TO PICK FROM BESIDES BLACK WOMEN……

        • Herm Cain

          Lololololololololo you go take them meds

      • Senait Ashenafi

        Roast in hell. You dirtbags are always blaming somebody else for something. We are sick of your whining and complaining and everywhere I turn I got to be dealing with one of your idiots. Just move on to whatever race of women is dumb enough to deal with your crap.

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          GEE…..DO YOU KISS YOUR MOTHER WITH THAT FILTHY MOUTH?????? NAH……NEVERMIND, YOU PROBABLY DO….

  • Megan

    Ladies… let’s all take a seat and calm down. These men who throw their entire race of women under the bus are jerks… yes but at the end of the day they will end up like football player, Mario Williams who got played and used by his WHITE fiancé. He lost a ton of money (that she spent $108,000 and gifts he gave her over $200,000 not counting the 800,000 ring) and to add insult to injury she wants to keep the ring. Same with football player Roy Williams. We hear these stories all the time. But they don’t go and throw white women under the bus. Hmmmmmm…

    Any man that can throw his own race under the bus is not a man at all. Seriously? Have a sense of pride. Your women are beautiful, ageless and confident. WHITE WOMEN spend thousands on surgeries, tanning and age defying cremes to look half as good as us. As far as weight, that is something we need to work on but black men have a lot to work on as well! They seem to have an issue with taking ownership. If you want to be a man then be a man. The reason why we are so dominant and have such strong attitudes is because of what we go through with white people (which you all should understand) stereotypes we have to combat DAILY and sadly our own black men.

    That is all. And honestly, I wouldn’t want to date a self hating black man anyway. Thanks for showing yourselves. I see you all as no loss to me. I have other great black men and other men of all races to chose from. You forget, black women are a novelty as well. We just haven’t taken advantage of it like you all have. But we will and already have :]

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      HA HA HA HA HA!!! WE BLACK MEN ARE “JERKS”, BUT APPARENTLY NO ONE CAN TELL BLACK WOMEN ANYTHING ABOUT THEMSELVES REGARDLESS OF HOW UNCOUTH AND UNLADYLIKE THEY DECIDE TO ACT, BUT THE SECOND WE BLACK MEN ATTEMPT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT YOURSELVES, WE’RE BEING “JERKS”??? OKAY….SO WHAT ARE YOU “WOMEN” BEHAVING LIKE THEN??? SINCE YOU WANT TO BRING UP MARIO WILLIAMS, LET’S BRING UP HALLE BERRY SEEING AS SHE’LL BE PAYING GABRIEL AUBREY 20k A MONTH FOR THE NEXT 14 YEARS, AND WILL BASICALLY PAY HIM OVER 3 MILLION BUCKS BEFORE ALL IS SAID AND DONE, AND ACCORDING TO HER, HE WAS CALLING HER RACIALLY IMPROPER NAMES, BUT BLACK MEN ARE JERKS??? OK THEN….. BETTER YET, LET’S TALK ABOUT THE BLACK FEMALE PRISON GUARD WHO WAS SO DESPERATE TO HAVE A WHITE MAN THAT SHE HAD RELATIONS OF A PHYSICAL NATURE WITH A WHITE SUPREMACIST AND GOT PREGNANT FOR HIM AND HE ENDED UP TELLING ON HER AND SHE ENDED UP GETTING AN STD??? BUT I GUESS THAT WHITE MEN CAN’T BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANYTHING THEY DO, BUT A BLACK MAN CAN……AND NO ONE IS THROWING “ALL” BLACK WOMEN UNDER A BUNS, WE JUST THROW THE ONES UNDER THE BUS WHO DESERVE IT (SAY IT WITH ME NOW???) “INDIVIDUALLY” AND ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS!!! AS A SINGLE MAN, I KNOW THAT MY ODDS OF FINDING A GOOD WOMAN TO MARRY AND MAKE INTO A BLACK WIFE ARE SLIM, BUT EVEN WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT A MAJORITY OF THEM DO THAT I DO NOT PERSONALLY CARE FOR, I DON’T THROW THEM ALL UNDER THE BUS, BUT I DO THROW INDIVIDUAL ONES UNDER A BUS ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS!!!! AND YOU CAN ATTEMPT TO FOOL YOURSELF INTO THINKING THAT YOU ARE A “NOVELTY” ALL YOU WANT TO, BUT IN ENGLAND AND HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, BLACK WOMEN ARE NOT A HOT COMMODITY, BECAUSE LET’S LOOK AT THINGS LOGISTICALLY FOR A SECOND??? WHITE MEN CONTROL THE MEDIA, THEY CONTROL THE MILITARY AND THEY CONTROL THE MONEY……THAT BEING SAID, DO YOU THINK THAT WHITE WOMEN REFER TO THEMSELVES AS “STRONG AND INDEPENDENT”??? HECK NO!!! IF ANYTHING, THEY REFER TO THEMSELVES AS SOFT AND FEMININE!!! YOU KNOW….THE WAY WOMEN ARE SUPPOSED TO BE…….BUT GOOD LUCK WITH ATTEMPTING THAT WITH WHITE MEN AND MEN OF OTHER RACES, AND SEE JUST HOW FAR BEING THAT WAY WITH MEN WHO COME ROM ESTABLISHED PATRIARCHIES WILL ACCEPT THAT FROM ANY BELLIGERENT WOMAN IN THEIR OWN RACE, LET ALONE ONE FROM ANOTHER RACE ATTEMPTING TO SEEK A MATE…….BETTER YET, SEND ME AN INVITE TO YOUR WEDDING WHEN YOU FIND YOUR IMAGINARY “WHITE KNIGHT” WHO RIDES IN ON A FINE ARAB CHARGER TO SAVE YOU, AND I’LL SEND YOU ONE ONCE I MEET MY KATE UPTON LOOKALIKE, BECAUSE LAST I CHECKED, MEN ARE THE ONES WHO ASK WOMEN TO GET MARRIED, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND…… SO DO WE HAVE A DEAL, MEGAN???

  • mac

    You guys please, don’t fall for this obvious exploitation for hits and site traffic. Many of you saw how ugly the last thread like this got.

    Shame on you, MN for perpetuating this trash, knowing it only worsens relations and ill feelings between Black men and women. And knowing that these articles do absolutely nothing to foster productive discussion, and only turn into a bashing fest from both sides. But anything for the almighty dollar.

    You are the real sell-outs.

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      OF COURSE THERE WON’T BE ANY PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE BLACK WOMEN NEVER WANT TO ACCEPT ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING THEY DO, MAC……

      • Megan

        Black men don’t either. Since when were black men angels in this whole scenario???? So black men have done nothing? They have nothing to own up to or accept responsibility for? Ridiculous.

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          I NEVER SAID THAT BLACK MEN WERE ANGELS…..WHAT I SPECIFICALLY SAID WAS THAT BLACK WOMEN NEVER ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING THEY DO, AND THEY DON’T….

  • Real Truths

    Since my last post has been “moderated” I know it won’t hit the site. In short, stop the lies and hurt black people. You’re perpetuating hate and distrust towards each other that will last for generations at this rate. If you think non-blacks don’t see how you treat each other why would they want you? Stop lying and being hypocrites especially. Every black man has seen bw take opportunity to trash a bm whenever the opportunity arises in public and private. Look at the “hate black men” articles, videos online, and blogs out there. Is it any question why it’s starting to happen to black women more and more now (chickens coming home to roost as they say). Stop with the self centered egos “loyalty”, “never talk bad” and et cetera that are more like propaganda than truth. LOYALTY is when you stay when you could leave. CIRCUMSTANCE (which bm/bw are mostly in) is when you want to leave but no one wants your black tail (they’ve seen and heard stories that you’ve broadcasted!). Stop letting the media fuel your anger, insecurities that negatively reflect on both groups. Don’t believe their lies. Blacks still marry blacks, there’s no man shortage (sorry if you can’t find one), you’e not prettier with weave, perm or lighter skin. BM athletes are still marrying black women (close to 90% last time I checked). BW in Hollywood still marry white men more than BM marry white women in Hollywood (even though surprisingly it’s never shown–wonder why?). Work on the solutions instead of always concentrating on the problems. Treat the opposite sex with RESPECT you want and deserve. LISTEN to what someone else has to say and don’t be so quick to get defensive or dismissive. TALK TO THEM, NOT AT THEM. There’s more but I’m running short on space. Stop poisoning good black men and women because of the experiences you had before them. Every good bm/bw you turn bad will do it to another good bm/bw when they get the chance continuing the cycle. Stay away and shun all bm/bw who espouse white supremacist ideology in blackface e.g.: black men [women] ain’t s*** marry a white guy [girl], non-black make better spouses, black women are ugly (expect the light skinned ones that look “other”) and the likes (the whites hear that crap blacks preach and fall out laughing). Don’t let them, the media, and each other continue to lead us to destruction through Divide and Conquer. Tupac said in Keep Ya Head Up “soon we’ll have a race of babies that will hate the ladies and make the babies”…how prophectic he was. In short, I love y’all black women (in all you differences) and any REAL BLACK MAN DOES TOO..don’t let them keep lying to you! It’s not perfect for either one of us in certain areas right now but I’ll ALWAYS ride for my people–win, lose or draw. We’ll overcome this like every other obstacle thrown at us historically as long as we STAY TOGETHER. Ever ask why they promote all that interracial for us all the time, but never for the white folks???? YOU KNOW WHY, DON’T FALL FOR THEIR TRICKS.

    • mac

      beautiful.

    • CKT76

      Thank you for that.Good to know all Black men haven’t given up on Black women.

      • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

        I NEVER SAID I GAVE UP ON YOU, I’M JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU LADIES ABOUT YOURSELVES, AND THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 2…….

        • Strawberries&Cream

          Yes you have. In a round about way,at the end of the day,nobody black or white wants to be with an angry black man,who has to put down women of his own race,just to feel good about himself.

          • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

            OK……Well the problem is that regardless of how you phrase it, BLACK WOMEN as a whole refuse to accept responsibility for ANYTHING, so how to you tell someone what your issues are with them if they refuse to listen, or deny any and all wrongdoing??? I don’t need to put BLACK WOMEN down to feel better about myself, because you ladies do plenty of that on your own…..All thatI’m attempting to do is tell you what BLACK MEN see as problems with you and allow a discussion on how to alleviate them….NOTHING MORE……Everything else, you speculated and hypothesized on your own……

  • 360 Degrees

    I have been watching this meltdown/battle between black women and men for years. Black men who make these types of widespread ignorant comments publicly and on social media are usually the ones who come from a bad area or background and only see the IDGAF/ghetto type of sisters (yes they exist) in their every day life. They may have the same opinions of their mothers and family members. They have little to no experience with cool down to earth sisters, who just shake their heads in amazement and awe at all of the negative generalizations that get thrown at black women. The fellow “cool” brothers who have seen positive representations of black women in their lives usually just stay quiet and neutral, so in summary there is not that much POSITIVE energy flowing back to those cool down to earth sisters.

    So what I see NOW is that many of those same cool down to earth sisters (who are also usually pretty attractive and smart) have reacted to this overall lack of positivity by finally deciding, “hey maybe it isn’t just such a bad idea to try dating a white/indian/hispanic/european guy after all.” And many have some good experiences and find that they actually have plenty of options. So the bottom line is, a lot of the cool down to earth sisters are jumping ship (some quietly, some publicly) and simply put, they’re not going back to that negativity. This theory will be proven when marriage stats come out in the next census. The same black men who refuse to recognize that there ARE beautiful cool sisters out there will ironically be left to deal with the same stereotypical IDGAF black women that they malign daily. Full circle, 360 degrees.

    While I do agree that some type of beef squash would be great (even if we date whoever we want), I don’t know if that will happen any time soon on a larger level because there are too many hurt people in the equation who don’t know how to manage their feelings. Black women (and men) should just do whatever makes them personally happy and fulfilled in life. I tried to state these opinions with as much peace and love as possible, not trying to put anyone down or start a battle, just the way I see it

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      I DISAGREE WITH YOU….BLACK MEN WHO ARE LIVING IN IMPOVERISHED AREAS AND MAKE THE COMMENTS THAT YOU SHOW DISDAIN FOR ARE OFTEN NOT ON THE INTERNET, AND THEY MOST CERTAINLY DON’T HAVE THE TIME OR THE RESOURCES TO MAKE VIDEOS ON THE INTERNET TO DISPARAGE BLACK WOMEN AS WHOLE….. THE BLACK WOMEN HERE IN AMERICA WHO ACT GHETTO DO NOT HAVE A CERTAIN TYPE, BECAUSE BLACK WOMEN FROM WEALTHY AREAS ACT AS MUCH OF A FOOL JUST AS EASILY AS THOSE WHO ARE FROM THE POOREST AND MOST DRUG FILLED HOODS AS WELL….THE PROBLEM IS THAT BLACK WOMEN NEVER ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING THAT THEY DO PERSONALLY…..THEY CONSTANTLY POINT THEIR FINGERS AT ANYONE ELSE (ESPECIALLY THEIR MEN), AND DODGE AND DEFLECT ANYTHING THAT THEY ARE EVER ACCUSED OF…..SORRY, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO WHITE MEN, THEY WILL HAVE RELATIONS WITH YOU LADIES, BUT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MARRY YOU AND MAKE YOU INTO THEIR WIVES…..DON’T BELIEVE ME??? GO YOU TUBE THAT EPISODE OF DR. LAURA SCHLESSINGER’S WHERE THAT BLACK WOMAN CALLED IN AND COMPLAINED OF A WHITE HUSBAND WHO WAS CALLING HER RACIAL EPITHETS AND SLURS….NOW I’M GOING TO LET YOU WOMEN IN ON A LITTLE SECRET: WHITE MEN DO NOT LIKE BLACK WOMEN WHO ARE ATTITUDINAL……THEY GENERALLY LIKE BLACK WOMEN WHO ACT JUST LIKE A WHITE WOMAN DIPPED IN CHOCOLATE FOR THE MOST PART …..THE SECOND YOU LADIES ACT ALL STRONG AND INDEPENDENT WITH A WHITE MAN, WATCH HOW FAST YOU’LL GET YOURSELF DUMPED…..

      • 360 Degrees

        I anticipated this exact response from someone. As far as black women with white men, the stats actually show that these tend to be the strongest and longest lasting marriages. There are many theories as to why this is. IMO the white men in these unions don’t have the same insecurities and hang ups about “attitudes” and mouthiness from women as some brothers unfortunately do. When men are secure in their own sense of power they don’t feel the need to battle their woman.

        But the most important point of my reply to you ( which will be my last) is to say this: you are angry at someone, whether it be a mother who neglected you or a black woman/girl who wronged you in some way. The longer you hold onto that hate and anger, the more it will consume you each day. It will eat you alive, black man, and you will not be happy or have the ability to recognize a good black woman when you see one. You attract what you are and what you focus on. Hope you’re able to get over this phase one day soon.

        • Blackhawk

          Wth??? You actually look up stats on how long black women stay married to white men? Unbelievable.. i just don’t get fascination that some black people have with white people.

          • LOL

            Lol, that’s a well publicized fact for anyone who seeks more knowledge than what is the latest score on basketball or reality tv beef! Divorce rates.

        • Tina888999

          Thank you because some people need normal, fact filled, reality checks. He obviously has no friends because who are you cool with?? Are you only friends with white people? And if he does have any black female friends, what type of women are they??? He’s clearly upset at a singular person because only a close minded racist can generalize that much.

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          HA HA HA HA HA!!! DO YOU EVEN HEAR YOURSELF??? LET ME HELP YOU OUT A BIT…..” IMO the white men in these unions don’t have the same insecurities and hang ups about “attitudes” and mouthiness from women as some brothers unfortunately do. When men are secure in their own sense of power they don’t feel the need to battle their woman.” NOW THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST TYPED….THE SECOND SENTENCE YOU WROTE I TEND TO SOMEWHAT AGREE WITH, BUT AS FOR THE FIRST PART, IF YOU THINK THAT A WHITE MAN WILL PUT UP WITH A MOUTHY AND COMBATIVE WOMAN, YOU OBVIOUSLY DON’T KNOW VERY MANY OF THEM…..AS FOR MY ANGER AT SOMEONE, I’D HAVE TO SAY THAT YOU WOULD BE WRONG…..BOTH OF MY PARENTS ARE STILL TOGETHER, I’M IN A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH AN ATTRACTIVE WOMAN, AND AS FOR RECOGNIZING A GOOD BLACK WOMAN, WHO EVER SAID THAT I HAVE TO DATE OR MARRY ONE???? SERIOUSLY…..I DON’T RECALL EVER STATING THAT AS A HANDSOME, GOOD NATURED, SINGLE BLACK MAN, I HAVE TO LIMIT MYSELF TO ANY ONE RACE OF WOMEN ON THIS PLANET, SO THERE GOES THAT THEORY……IF ANYTHING, I’D ADVISE YOU TO DEAL WITH YOUR OWN ISSUES, AND REFRAIN FROM WORRYING ABOUT MINE….

        • Senait Ashenafi

          Some of these black men can’t recognize a good black woman because their too busy being jealous of her of trying to figure out ways to destroy her.

          • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

            THERE’S NO NEED TO DESTROY YOU, ALL I HAVE TO DO IS REFUSE TO DATE OR MARRY YOU, AND THE REST WRITES ITSELF….

  • Tehani

    “For better or worse, black women have been conditioned to support black men.”

    Thank goodness I haven’t been conditioned to support such foolish creatures.

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      THANK GOD FOR GIVING BLACK MEN THE ABILITY TO DATE AND MARRY WOMEN OF OTHER RACES BESIDES THE ONES WHO ACT THE WAY YOU DO AND HAVE YOUR MINDSET, BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO DENSE AND BELLIGERENT FOR WORDS…..

      • Tehani

        1. How am I ‘acting’?
        2. What is my mindset?
        3. How am I being ‘dense’ and ‘belligerent’?

      • Chey

        lmaooo

      • Megan

        You don’t even know who she is. What kind of black man totally throws his entire race of woman under the bus? How can you be proud of yourself? Sure, go get you a white woman and end up like Mario Williams with a fiancé who played him and used him for his money. Sure go on ahead. Run along now!

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          FIRST AND FOREMOST, I DON’T “CARE” WHO SHE IS, SHE WAS OUT OF ORDER….SECONDLY, I DIDN’T THROW THE ENTIRE RACE OF BLACK WOMEN UNDER A BUS, I THREW HER AND WOMEN WHO ACT THE WAY THAT SHE DOES UNDER A BUS….THIRDLY, I AM EXTREMELY PROUD OF MYSELF, BECAUSE I AM A STRIKINGLY HANDSOME YOUNG MAN WITH AN EXCELLENT EDUCATION FROM AN ACCREDITED INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING, I HAVE A GREAT CAREER AND PLENTY OF DISPOSABLE INCOME, I AM SINGLE, I HAVE NO CHILDREN, AND I AM FAR TOO INTELLIGENT TO FALL INTO YOUR TRAPS……AND LAST I CHECKED, BLACK WOMEN PLAY BLACK MEN FOR MONEY TOO, Ms MEGAN, SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? ARE YOU SAYING THAT BECAUSE A WOMAN IS BLACK THAT SHE IS INTRINSICALLY INCAPABLE OF BEING A MATERIALISTIC OPPORTUNIST WHERE MONEY IS CONCERNED??? I THINK YOU KNOW BETTER……IF ANYTHING, I SUGGEST “YOU” RUN ALONG, BECAUSE AS USUAL, A MOUTHY, DISAGREEABLE, BELLIGERENT BLACK WOMAN JUST CAN’T KEEP HER MOUTH SHUT FOR ANYTHING, NOW CAN SHE????

          • guest

            Sir, first, I need you to get rid of the Caps Lock you have going on, Its really annoying, and no one wants to see this. Its like a child throwing a temper tantrum at his mom because he wants ice cream and attention; its not going to happen, so chill out. Second, I didn’t say that an entire group of stupid men don’t know how to NOT hit caps lock all the time, just you. Third, I am a strikingly gorgeous 22 year old woman who just graduated from the illustrious Howard University with a double major in Biology and Chemistry. I already have a great job, a lot of disposable income, and I am single, with no children. I am far too intelligent to fall into your trap of claiming that all Black women are incapable of thinking beyond a man’s wallet and that we are all obese. In these comments, you come off as a pretentious a**hole who believes that just because he has a college degree, he is entitled that a woman falls to his feet, never say a peep about his shortcomings, and always be the one to blame. Despite my young age, I think I can speak for a lot of Black women, when I say that all we want is a man that doesn’t think that the sun shines out of his a** just because he meets the bare minimums.

            • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

              HERE WE GO WITH YET ANOTHER BLACK WOMAN OVER APPRAISING HERSELF……YAWWWWWN……….

              • guest

                But weren’t you also over-appraising yourself? Is that not simply a matter of different perspectives? Trust me sir, I don’t actually care about all of that crap I just said about myself up there. That doesn’t define who I am (simple materialistic crap that doesn’t actually say anything about your character). However, considering the fact that I just took what you said and twisted it around only to fit my situation, I was just simply trying to make a point. That if a woman said exactly what you said “SECONDLY, I DIDN’T THROW THE ENTIRE RACE OF BLACK WOMEN UNDER A BUS, I THREW HER AND WOMEN WHO ACT THE WAY THAT SHE DOES UNDER A BUS….THIRDLY, I AM EXTREMELY PROUD OF MYSELF, BECAUSE I AM A STRIKINGLY HANDSOME YOUNG MAN WITH AN EXCELLENT EDUCATION FROM AN ACCREDITED INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING, I HAVE A GREAT CAREER AND PLENTY OF DISPOSABLE INCOME, I AM SINGLE, I HAVE NO CHILDREN, AND I AM FAR TOO INTELLIGENT TO FALL INTO YOUR TRAPS…..” etc, etc….that it would be seen as pretentious, and in your words, over-appraising.

                • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

                  NO…..I never over appraise myself, because let’s face it……I’m great!!!!

            • Blackhawk

              Strikingly gorgeous huh? Well i’m from Atlanta so u kno i like curves and a lil thickness.. so if u working with a lil something.. we might can talk. See there’s no beef lol!

            • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

              CORRECTION: I have 2 degrees, and a MAJORITY of BLACK WOMEN are overweight or OBESE….And as for my shortcomings, the only ones worth noting are my narcissism and my penchant for having a weakness for beautiful women…..Aside from that, I FAR exceed the “BARE MINIMUMS”……..

          • BlackDiamond

            If you have to announce how important you are you probably aren’t. Common people know how to spot out a good person without having that person to tell them.

            You don’t date black women, because truth is that black women don’t want to date you. You’re stuck up, arrogant, and close-minded. You’re extremely unattractive personality-wise and mentally, all that from a comment post. Trolling on a black women’s site smh.

            • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

              Who’s trolling??? I’m merely telling the truth……

  • Jj2

    I don’t judge all black men but the truly low and ignorant, just like I would hope that any black man of substance would do the same for me. If not then it is whatever….Every race has their flaws. Generic of all races women may seem easy in the beginning but the end is different story. She got $125 million and never hit a golf ball. I have never lost a good black man to a white women, ever.

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      PERSONALLY, I DON’T DATE MANY AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN, AND I GENERALLY JUDGE BLACK WOMEN ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS BECAUSE I CAN’T DEAL WITH THEIR UNCOUTH AND UNREFINED BEHAVIOR, I DON’T CARE FOR THEIR ATTITUDES, I DON’T CARE FOR THE WAY THAT THEY ACT, AND I DON’T CARE FOR THE FACT THAT AN OVERALL MAJORITY OF THEM ARE OBESE….I WOULD JUST AS SOON DATE OUT BEFORE DEALING WITH WOMEN THAT ARE UNGRATEFUL AND ACT LIKE IDIOTS….I’M SORRY, BUT I CANNOT TAKE A BLACK WOMAN TO A NICE RESTAURANT IN A STRAPLESS EVENING DRESS IN FRONT OF MY BUSINESS COLLEAGUES WHEN SHE HAS A MULTITUDE OF TATTOOS AND MISCELLANEOUS INAPPROPRIATE PIERCINGS!!! AND FOR THE RECORD, JUANITA JORDAN GOT 160 MILLION AND SHE NEVER SHOT A BASKETBALL, SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT IN SAYING THAT??? SPEAKING AS A GOOD BLACK MAN MYSELF, I WOULD SOONER DATE A WHITE WOMAN AS OPPOSED TO YOU JUST BASED ON THE STUPIDITY THAT YOU’VE SAID HERE……..

      • Tehani

        THANK GOODNESS BLACK WOMEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO DATE AND MARRY MEN OF OTHER RACES, BESIDES THE ONE’S WHO ACT THE WAY YOU DO AND HAVE YOUR MINDSET, BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO DENSE AND BELLIGERENT FOR WORDS…

      • BlackDiamond

        you can’t judge every black woman by the trash YOU choose to date…there aren’t women of other races with a lot of tattoos and body piercings?

        And from what I know, the black men who are the first to call themselves “good guys” are just as ignorant and abusive as anyother negro.

        I understand what u mean though. I can’t imagine going to a formal business gathering with a black man with his pants sagging, obscene tattoos, tear drops on his temple, gold teeth and gold chains, trying to pretend he is rick ross or lil wayne but has no real job or career.

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          WHY IS IT THAT I HAVE TO DATE TRASHY WOMEN??? IS IT BECAUSE “YOU” SAY SO??? FIRST OFF, YOU DON’T EVEN PERSONALLY KNOW ME TO MAKE SUCH AN IGNORANT AND UNFOUNDED STATEMENT, AND ONCE AGAIN, AS I STATED BEFORE, THE DISCUSSION ISN’T ABOUT WHAT WOMEN OF OTHER RACES DO, IT IS ABOUT WHAT BLACK WOMEN DO SPECIFICALLY, AND TRUE TO FORM, HERE YOU GO TALKING ABOUT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE DOES INSTEAD OF DISCUSSING WHAT YOU BLACK WOMEN DO SPECIFICALLY, SO PLEASE STICK TO THE TOPIC…. FROM WHAT I KNOW, ANY BLACK WOMEN CALLING THEMSELVES “BLACKDIAMOND” ARE USUALLY WORTHLESS CUBIC ZIRCONIAS AND PROBABLY WILL END UP ALONE WITH A HOUSE FULL OF CATS, NO MEN, NO KIDS AND NO FUTURE ONCE THEY GET SO OLD TO THE POINT WHERE THEY ARE NO LONGER ATTRACTIVE AND YOUNG AND CAN’T OFFER SEX…THEY ALSO TEND TO BE PROMISCUOUS AND LOOSE, BECAUSE THEY NORMALLY WALK AROUND STICKING THEIR POSTERIORS OUT ON VIDEOS AND IN PICTURES ON DATING SITES, BECAUSE THEY HAVE LITTLE ELSE TO OFFER ANY MAN THEY COULD EVER BE INVOLVED WITH!!! I MADE A STATEMENT ABOUT HOW “I” PERSONALLY DON’T WANT A WOMAN DRESSED LIKE A TRAMP, AND YOU DEFLECTED WHAT I SAID AND CHANGED IT INTO SOMETHING PERTAINING TO BLACK MEN, AND THAT IS A TYPICAL HOODRAT DEFLECTIONARY TACTIC, SO SPARE ME……..

          • BlackDiamond

            LOL you are right, I don’t know you. And you definitely don’t know me. so do yourself a favor and cut out the childish nonsense on living alone and sticking my butt out.

            and you don’t know every black woman. it’s obvious by the way you describe black women that you choose trashy women and generalize. Black women are like every other woman, meaning that every woman is different.

            And since we’re talking about the topic, let’s talk about Black Men. This is about BM vs. BW. My point is Black men never been perfect and never ever been in the position to feel so superior to black women. And as true to form, you ignore it to put down black women . Especially when black men from what I have known have multiple children by different women without a commitment and are deadbeat. Or tend to aspire to be the next big dope boy. Who find it “soft” or gay to talk in correct English.

            You think you know a lot about hoodrats…you must have been around or grew up with plenty. Wouldn’t that make you a hood bum? But it doesn’t matter because I know nothing of you or your close minded and ignorant views.

            • Megan

              Yep. I think that makes him a hood bum. Sounds about right…

              • mac

                Forgive me, but the fact that many of y’all are too dense or clouded by your own anger to realize when someone is just trying to get under your skin really just proves his point.

                I’m out.

                • BlackDiamond

                  its an open forum though. I’m not even angry. This guy is making an idiot of himself with every comment he makes. and I’m just feeding the trolls so he can dance for me.

                  • mac

                    “This guy is making an idiot of himself with every comment he makes”

                    *deep sigh* THAT’S HIS PURPOSE.

                    • BlackDiamond

                      LOL definitely. He can even be bait so that this page gets more views which in turn make more money for the site. Its just entertainment to me. okay. I’ll stop feeding the trolls.

                  • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

                    SURE YOU ARE, “BLACK ZIRCONIA”……YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THAT I PERSONALLY DON’T CARE WHAT YOU LADIES DO, AND TRUTHFULLY, THAT WHOLE “I’M GOING TO GET ME A WHITE MAN”!!!! MANTRA IS OLD……IF YOU CHOOSE TO DATE INTERRACIALLY, WHY IS IT THAT YOU LADIES OF COLOR NEVER SCREAM ABOUT GOING TO DATE ASIAN MEN, SEEING AS BOTH YOU AND ASIAN MEN ARE CONSIDERED THE LEAST DESIRED MATES IN THE DATING POOL, BUT YOU’LL SWEAR UP AND DOWN THAT YOU ONLY DATE WHITE MEN AS A RESULT OF BEING IN LOVE WITH THEM???? YEAH, RIGHT………..ROTFLOL!!!!! TELL ME ANOTHER ONE…….

              • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

                SORRY, BUT “HOOD BUMS” DON’T COME ONLINE TO HAVE DEBATES WITH BLACK WOMEN……THEY TRY TO IMPREGNATE THEM AND TAKE THEM FOR WHATEVER THEY CAN GET……

            • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

              ONCE AGAIN, I NEVER SAID THAT YOU PERSONALLY STICK YOUR BUTT OUT, I SAID THAT BLACK WOMEN “IN GENERAL” DO IT, AND THEY DO!!!!!…. AS USUAL, HERE COME THE OBVIOUS DEFLECTIONS…..I DON’T NEED TO KNOW EVERY BLACK WOMAN TO SEE WHAT A “MAJORITY” OF THEM ROUTINELY DO….AND I REALIZE THAT ALL BLACK WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT….THAT IS, UNTIL YOU GET ONE BRASSED OFF, THEN WHAT’S NOTICEABLE IS THAT THEY ALL SHARE STRIKING SIMILARITIES AND MANNERISMS…… NO, I’D PREFER TO STICK TO THE TOPIC OF BLACK WOMEN, BECAUSE AS USUAL YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO DODGE AND DEFLECT THE TOPIC……BUT JUST TO GET IT OUT OF THE WAY LET’S DISCUSS SOME OF BLACK MENS’ FAULTS , SHALL WE??? OKAY…..”SOME” BLACK MEN ARE UNEDUCATED, INSTITUTIONALIZED FROM BEING IN PRISONS, THEY ARE HORRIBLE FATHERS, SOME ARE GAY, OVERLY AGGRESSIVE, WOMANIZERS, PROMISCUOUS, AFRAID OF COMMITMENTS, IRRESPONSIBLE, AND THERE ARE ABOUT 10 OTHER THINGS I COULD SAY OF A DEROGATORY NATURE PERTAINING TO SOME OF THEM, BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT??? AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THAT I’M HERE TO DEFEND MEN, AND YOU ARE HERE TO ABSOLVE WOMEN OF ANY WRONGDOING, AND WHAT’S EVEN MORE LAUGHABLE IS THE FACT THAT MY ONLY DEALINGS WITH MOST HOODRATS COME FROM THE INTERNET, BECAUSE I DO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH THEM IF I CAN HELP IT…..AS FOR MY BEING A “HOOD BUM”, I AM FAR FROM IT, I AM EDUCATED, HANDSOME, HAPPY AND IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH A WOMAN WHO IS DEFINITELY NOT BLACK AS A RESULT OF THE FACT THAT THE PERSON I AM ATTRACTED TO ISN’T A BLACK WOMAN, AND I KNOW NOTHING OF “YOUR” CLOSED MINDED AND IGNORANT VIEWS THAT I “HAVE” TO HAVE SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME IF I DON’T PICK A BLACK WOMAN AS A MATE……AS IF…..LOL!!!!!

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          WHY IS IT THAT THE WOMEN I CHOOSE TO DATE HAVE TO BE TRASH BECAUSE YOU SAY SO??? FIRST OFF, I DON’T DATE ANY WOMEN THAT I DON’T FEEL I COULD BRING HOME TO MEET MY MOTHER….SECONDLY, YOU DO NOT KNOW ME TO MAKE AN ALL INCLUSIVE STATEMENT AS TO MY DEMEANOR, AND THIRDLY, IF ANYTHING, IT SPEAKS MORE TO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE (DARE I SAY IT??) KISSED MORE THAN A FEW FROGS TO MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION??? Sorry if I seem just a little upset, but I do not fit the typical stereotype of most BLACK men you will normally meet, seeing as I have a great love of classical music, I have 2 degrees, a great career, and I also have a great love of women…….

      • Senait Ashenafi

        You’re probably not as good of a man as you think you are. You sound pretty stuck up. Not all black women have tattoes. Who are you trying to take to these dinners? Some hoodrat chick? Well who cares. This is a blog for women anyway. Nobody asked you and NOBODY CARES. I can’t stand you black men.

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          I AM A FAR BETTER MAN THAN A LOT OF BLACK MEN THESE DAYS ARE, I AM FROM BEING STUCK UP, BUT I DO HAVE CLASS, CHARACTER AND EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD UPBRINGING, AND AS A RESULT OF MY PROFESSION, I TEND TO GET INVITED TO SEVERAL RATHER UPSCALE BLACK TIE FUNCTIONS WHERE I NEED TO HAVE A COMPANION ACCOMPANY ME WHO DOES NOT HAVE AN EXCESS OF TATTOOS AND PIERCINGS….I WOULD SOONER DIE THAN TO DATE A HOODRAT FEMALE, AND AS FOR WHO CARES AND WHO ASKED, THAT WOULD BE YOU…..

      • Senait Ashenafi

        By the by, I would love to take a black man to church with me on Sundays, but I can’t seem to find one that keeps his pants up off the ground and wears a belt.

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          YOU COULD TAKE ME, Ms. TINA,,,…..I AM A GOD FEARING MAN, AND I CONSISTENTLY WEAR BELTS WHEN I DON’T WEAR SUSPENDERS….

      • Gina

        The majority of Black men are in prison, selling crack, weed and etc. Black men don’t take care of their OWN children, they rather have a rap career than go college. Who the hell would date a Black man?

      • Adrina

        “I’M SORRY, BUT I CANNOT TAKE A BLACK WOMAN TO A NICE RESTAURANT IN A STRAPLESS EVENING DRESS IN FRONT OF MY BUSINESS COLLEAGUES WHEN SHE HAS A MULTITUDE OF TATTOOS AND MISCELLANEOUS INAPPROPRIATE PIERCINGS!!! ”

        I feel you on this because a bw wouldn’t want to present her colleagues to some dude with sagging pants, tattoos, etc. However, if this is all the women you meet, you may need to go somewhere else to meet bw. Not all of us are that way, sweetie. Not all of us have attitudes, so to generalize bw as such is pretty ignorant. What do you think a white person say about a black man? “oh he probably has kids he’s not taking care of, a criminal record, yeah he may have a good career but I bet most of his earnings is going to child support”. Don’t be fooled. If non black women are your preference, then cool. But if you are just dating those women just say ALL bw are how you described in the post, then you shouldn’t be calling anyone an idiot. :-)

      • BruinStan11

        I am 27 years young, educated black woman (I hold my BS in Marketing & MBA in Communications – both attained at UCLA). Never been married, No illegitimate kids running around. I have my own condo (paying a mortgage), and drive my own vehicle – which was bought and paid for with my hard work. I am apart of a small, yet growing percentage of black women who would rather shut your ignorance down with our minds versus shaking our genetically blessed behinds to confuse the conversation. I am proud of my accomplishments that I worked very hard for, and know that there are black men that say they look for a “sistah” like me, but chose the kind of women you describe because they know they can not and will not be able to bring to the table what a woman like me deserves. So I say please date within your lane! If you know you aren’t up to par, please don’t waste my time, nor yours. But generalizations that you make here are what hurt the culture as a whole – because not all black men want to be rappers or ball players – nor do they have random kids or STD/HIV/AIDS, and I know not all want to be seen as evil self hating men, just like not all black women want to be video hoes, or play into the ratchet lifestyle. When you say rude hurtful things about a group of people – especially black women, we get on defense and last time I checked it’s completely natural to get offended at offensive remarks. If you don’t date black women, great! Be happy, but don’t troll a website that’s targeted towards the women you DON’T want. That action speaks much louder than caps lock rants you have been posting. Just my opinion – hope you have a good one, some of us have to get back to work lol

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          Who’s ranting??? I just told the truth????

  • Cool Breeze

    The beef will continue until the Negro woman apologizes for being disrespectful.

    • Chey

      Lmao I can’t help but laugh at this.

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      AS WELL IT SHOULD……BLACK WOMEN NEED TO REALIZE THAT WITHOUT US MEN, THEY WILL PERISH, AND HAVE NO DEFENSES AGAINST MEN OF OTHER RACES…..

      • Corey

        I would also add the fact that black men hold the seed of the entire black race not the black women. The evolution of the race is up to men and they have the power to slowly weed out the type of black women they don’t like.

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          VERY TRUE, COREY……THEY OFTEN FORGET THAT….

        • ambi

          then you are saying that YOU black men are choosing to end the black race by taking your seed somewhere else, but dropping your seed to often with several black women yet not raising the off spring I don’t see any weeding out you are just LEAVING and I’ve yet to hear one man say “yeah that brother was wrong yet” that is the real problem to many black men think their sh&t don’t stink yet quick to point out ALL the black woman’s problems. There are a lot of weak minded sistas so keep saying what you saying it works on them. The black race gets weaker and weaker because there are not enough STRONG black men to step up and join with a STRONG black women and create STRONG black off spring

          • BlackDiamond

            Yes!! exactly! Mr. FinalJustice may be too weak and too emasculated to be in a strong relationship with a strong black woman. who knows?

            • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

              HA HA HA HA HA!!! NO, I’M NOT WEAK, EMASCULATED, OR SO SPINELESS TO THE POINT WHERE I NEED A WORTHLESS, FILTHY WOMAN SUCH AS YOU TO THINK FOR ME, BLACKZIRCONIA….. I DON’T WANT A STRONG WOMAN…..I WANT A NICE SOFT FEMININE WOMAN THAT ACTS LIKE A LADY…..YOU KNOW, THE WAY WOMEN ARE SUPPOSED TO ACT?????

              • BlackDiamond

                So you admit you date worthless, filthy women? I don’t think for anyone. Especially a man, because my man will be leader and I will be a co-captain in the relationship. Try again.

                • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

                  Ummmm…FIRST OFF, I DON’T DATE WORTHLESS, FILTHY WOMEN, SO THAT IMMEDIATELY WOULD CUT YOU OUT OF THE RUNNING…… I SAID THAT I DON’T NEED A WORTHLESS AND FILTHY WOMAN SUCH AS “YOU” TO THINK FOR ME, AND I DON’T…..I HATE TO BREAK THIS TO YOU, BUT THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS A “CO CAPTAIN”……THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE CAPTAIN ON A SHIP, AND BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST WROTE, YOU DON’T WANT A MAN TO LEAD YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, YOU WANT A MAN (SIMP) THAT YOU CAN RUN ROUGHSHOD OVER, SO “YOU” TRY AGAIN….IF ANYTHING, YOU CAN’T HANDLE A STRONG “ALPHA” TYPE MAN…..SO YOU TRY AGAIN…….YOU WOULDN’T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH A REAL MAN IF ONE BIT YOU….

                  • Just saying!!

                    This common wreaks of masculinity issues. ….and what real man would bite a woman? :/

                    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

                      Depending on how and where I bite them, plenty of women actually like it…….

              • Just saying!!

                “the way women are SUPPOSED to act”—and therein lies the underlying problem with perceptions of black women….

                • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

                  I agree…..I don’t want a BLACK WOMAN who acts like a masculine BLACK MAN….SUE ME!!!!

          • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

            Regardless of what you may “THINK”, what COREY saiid wasn’t “WRONG”, but it is exactly what will happen if BLACK WOMEN do not take heed to what BLACK MEN are telling them……

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          EXACTLY!!!!

      • Senait Ashenafi

        I think most of you black men are evil and no different that these whyte devils you claim to hate so much. I don’t really care what happens to you anymore.

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK, BECAUSE IT IS OBVIOUS THAT “YOU” ARE STUPID, AND I DON’T REALLY CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU AS LONG AS YOU’RE NOT GETTING RAPED OR KILLED, SO AS FAR AS THAT’S CONCERNED, IF YOU’RE A “STRONG, BLACK WOMAN”, HANDLE YOUR PROBLEMS YOURSELF……..

        • truth hurts

          Omg I swear you spoke what I was thinking. Just as many barbaric traits as white men now a days. Cold hearted, malicious, greedy, hateful, hurtful, spiteful, just cold EVIL!!! Kill each other like there’s no commandments, rules or regulations to life. Sell you up the river for a damn dollar or sports or rap contract. IDC what none of them say, THEY ARE the TRUE devils! It wasn’t no brainwashing from slavery. Bening the devils they are, we couldn’t see the fork in their tongues. 2 faced asz bastards I swear.

          • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

            GEE….MEN ARE COLD-HEARTED, MALICIOUS, GREEDY, HATEFUL, SPITEFUL, MYSOGYNISTIC AND VIOLENT TOO??? FORREAL??? WHEN DID “MEN” STOP BEING SUCH LOVING CREATURES????? WHAT’S THAT??? THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY??? OK….GOTCHA!!!!!

            • Just saying!!

              lmaoooo @ this troll asking when men stopped being loving creatures!! Someone has some self-evaluating to do.

      • Gina

        Are you high? Black men DON’T defend Black women at all! Without Black women their won’t be Black men. We can choose to keep you or ABORT you!

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          Is that so??? OK…..REMEMBER those famous last words, now….Also you shouldn’t forget that BLACK MEN can marry women of other races and remove you from the equation altogether…….

          • Gina

            You STILL don’t get it do you? Their are more Black women on planet earth than Black men. So without Black women to have brown skin male babies, Black men will become EXTINCT, go to other races of women and your extinction will come faster moron!

            • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

              OH WELL…..SEE YA IN HELL THEN……

          • Kathy

            Dont you know that by “removing us from the equation” u are also removing yourselves? it take 2 black people to make black children…

      • gina

        Black women will be just fine and besides it’s Black men that the world want dead anyway. Trayvon Martin ring a bell? It’s OPEN SEASON on killing BLACK MEN!

      • Just sayin

        Exactly!!!! But you can’t tell that to these bitter delusional sistahs!!!!!

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          ALLOW ME TO USE ONE OF THEIR OWN COLLOQUIALISMS???

          “THEY GON’ LEARN THE HARD WAY!!!!!!”

    • ambi

      when you men apologize for being unmotivated, unfocused, unfaithful, unwilling to do WHATEVER it takes to raise the kids you have all over the place, when you start taking care and protecting your mothers, sisters and daughters much less your women then we STRONG black women won’t have to pop off at you and tell you your short comings and thus there would never be anything for us women to apologize for, if you the LEADER then YOU do better and then women would “want” to do for you

      • mac

        Stop. feeding. into. it.

        They. are. TROLLS.

      • Senait Ashenafi

        They can’t protect their sisters and mothers. They are too busy molesting their Sisters and stealing money from their mothers. Smh.

      • No Half Stepping

        ~waving a church fan~ Thank you!

    • Strawberries&Cream

      And this is all coming from a clown,who belittle black women on a DAILY bases and loves to say how much better non black women are??? Yeah,this article is ALL ABOUT YOU.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kisha.jones.35 Kisha Jones

    That would be the same as a bw saying, “i don’t date bm bc they all have criminal records and can’t keep a job and have baby mama drama.” It would be untrue and generalizing. If you only see bw women as loud, ghetto and disorderly, you are what you attract. The problem with our race is that we’ve been put up against each other since slavery to ensure that the slaves shouldn’t come together and plot against the owner. Yet it’s 2013 and our people keep themselves oppressed smh.

    • shednelly

      Not all black men have criminal records and baby mama drama. It is bcos the whites portray us bm as bad dats why we see ourselves as bad our women should try and appreciate our men and the men should so same.

      • http://www.facebook.com/kisha.jones.35 Kisha Jones

        Agreed that is my point. That everyone has some kind of negative stereotypes that plague their race/ sex and men using the excuse as to why they don’t date black women is ridiculous.

  • TRUTH IS

    I certainly believe there is trash in every race/creed. A black man categorizing all black woman as the same is just his excuse to date whites. Heard white women are “easy”. I hv a hard time believing they are all easy. Lawd help us black women!!!

    BW is the mother of the earth!!

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE WRONG…..I DO NOT FEEL THAT ALL BLACK WOMEN ARE THE SAME, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF BLACK WOMEN PUT THEMSELVES IN THE POSITIONs THAT THEY ARE IN BY THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR, THEIR OWN ACTIONS, AND THEIR own WORDS, BECAUSE MORE AND MORE BLACK MEN ARE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THEY DO NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH THEM AS A RESULT OF THEIR OWN ACTIONS AND ISSUES, AND BLACK WOMEN ARE NOT THE MOTHERS OF THE EARTH…..

      • KJ23

        Who hurt you, Dude?

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          WHY IS IT THAT I HAVE TO BE HURT? I SIMPLY DISAGREE WITH WHAT WAS SAID….

        • Megan

          He’s hurt. Obviously.

          • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

            YOU’RE MISINFORMED……”OBVIOUSLY”………

            • Just saying

              First of all, you are writing in all caps and that is making it very difficult for me to take you seriously.

              Secondly, you don’t seem to seem to have any grounds for what you are saying.

              Thirdly…yea…you just seem hurt dude….bitter much? lmao

          • QleanQlassy Atlanta

            calling someone hurt seems to be the bailout excuse for not have a conversation

          • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

            It’s more like I’m honest, and I care…..If I didn’t care about BLACK WOMEN, I wouldn’t say anything……

          • blk chicks rwack

            a black chick will say anything to defend their bull

        • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

          Why is it that I have to be “HURT” to tell you ladies the truth?????

          • Danie

            I dont believe its that he’s hurt, he’d just looking at our black women in the perspective that OUR culture is portraying our women, The music thats glorified is giving this man all the reason to believe in the way he’s feeling, the way ya’ll are quick to say he’s been hurt and he’s sitting here telling yal’ll he’s not doesn’t make him feel any less secure in his statements above…Believe what he says, Then You’ll understand to a further extent on why he is saying that.

    • QleanQlassy Atlanta

      where do you girls make up this crap information in a bathroom stall wtf

    • MRFINALJUSTICE2012

      Wrong…….I don’t need an excuse to date WHITE WOMEN….Truth be told, I just date them, and I don’t really care about what BLACK WOMEN have to say about it………..

    • Just sayin

      Look at your statement. Black women generalize the hell out Black men but Black men better not do the same thing. Until Black women stop blaming victim all the damn time, then no, the beef will never cease!!! Most Black women act entitled and want total respect but don’t give respect.

      Come on, 70% of Black women unwed and you still got your fingers on Black men for all your faults. Even White men out number Black men substantially and are hesitate to deal with Black women outside a booty call. Wake up sistahs!!! Maybe the issue is you!!!