CHRISTmas Without Christ? Times Square Billboard Encourages New Yorkers To “Dump the Myth” of Jesus

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December 14, 2012 ‐ By Jazmine Denise Rogers
Source: American Atheists

Source: American Atheists

I’ll never understand why Atheists go on malicious tangents in an effort to wound people’s faith-based beliefs, but maybe it is not for me to understand. I’ll try not to be biased, but this stunt has me absolutely floored.

If you’ve taken a stroll down Times Square lately, you’ve probably noticed the extremely offensive billboard sponsored by American Atheists, which depicts an image of a smiling Santa Claus followed by a caption that reads “Keep the MERRY” and an image of a suffering, crucified Jesus followed by a caption that reads “Dump the MYTH!”

The Huffington Post is reporting that Teresa MacBain, Communications Director of American Atheists released a statement explaining the motivation behind the $25,000 billboard stating they wished to express the “true” meaning of the holiday season.

“The true beauty of the season — family, friends, and love — have nothing to do with the gods of yesteryear,” Teresa MacBain, the group’s communications director, said in a press release. “Indeed, the season is far more enjoyable without the religious baggage of guilt and judgmentalism.”

Dan Silverman, President of American Atheists, also released a statement regarding Christianity and the Christmas season.

“We know that a large population of Christians are actually atheists who feel trapped in their family’s religion,” said Silverman.”If you know God is a myth, you do not have to lie and call yourself Christian in order to have a festive holiday season. You can be merry without the myth, and indeed, you should.”

The billboard will remain in Times Square until January 10, 2013. This, of course, is not the first offensive billboard that the American Atheists are responsible for. Last year they erected a billboard in New Jersey that called the Christmas story a myth as well as another that read, “37 Million Americans know MYTHS when they see them… What myths do you see?” and held images of Jesus, Santa, the Devil and Poseidon.

Oh, so you blow $25,000 to erect a billboard discrediting a God whom you claim not to believe in? Oh, okay. Many find the antics of the organization to be distasteful, irrational and unnecessary. While  the actions of the American Atheists are highly offensive to many, the First Amendment pretty much protects their low blow stunts.

What do you think of the billboard?

Jazmine Denise is a news writer for madamenoire.com. Follow her on Twitter @jazminedenise

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  • http://www.facebook.com/murdamammie Aundrea Nicole Jackson

    I think that we wouldn’t be having this convo if it was a billboard asking people to follow Jesus which could be offensive to some people. Everything is offensive to someone. People should consider their opinions just that “OPINIONS”. Why should someone else’s opinion offend you? If it doesn’t apply, let it fly.

  • PA

    There is no Christmas without Christ, so no all those atheist need to sit down somewhere and chil andl get Jesus.

  • femmegauche

    This stuff has been normal in countries outside the US for many years now. Just because its finally reached our shores doesn’t mean people need to get up in arms about it. A lot of you religious types could actually prove yourself to be devoted and unwavering loyalists to your God(s) if you took this as just a test from God(s) to separate those that can be true devotees against those who behave with disdain and outrage rather than being rational and expressing your disagreement with words, not pitchforks. Furthermore, we are a free country, are we not? There is still a separation of church and state. And to those that claim it’s unfair because Christians can’t proselytize through billboards, you are definitely wrong as they are freely displayed across the country alongside many roads. Such pro-life boards sponsored by Christian organizations, or billboards advertising churches, synagogues, temples, etc. This is because billboards are paid for by organizations, corporations, small businesses, etc. They are not government-sponsored unless it’s for recruitment to the armed services or similar programs, none that are even remotely religious. If the nontheists have to see all the religious propaganda, why can theists not see the same? If religion/your “god” is supposed to help you in the face of adversity, the “god(s)” are supposed to help you deal with the adversity of viewing something you don’t agree with.

  • http://twitter.com/docbndgrl9113 Keesha (Киша)

    As a Christian, I’m not angry about this ad. Atheists have the right to believe what they want, but I definitely do not agree. What I find funny though is that they show Santa Claus, whom we all know is a myth.

  • ncntrol

    But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

  • @Dee_Thinks

    People hate Jesus. People hate the truth. So this is expected. Christians need to rise up and put out their own billboards and propaganda for people to see. Put a billboard of the gospel up in Times Square right next to it. It’s still a free country right?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAI4SRENU2A5WKRTELXXYJPDSI Kayla

    But ut is right. Christmas isn’t a christian holiday it’s a pagan one. About time someone knew the truth.

  • Kaori

    We live in a country of religious zealots.

  • Indigo

    All of the negative comments being made about Christians are just as bad as any comment that can be made about atheists, muslims, or jews…the problem is STEREOTYPING. Obviously, not all Christians are judgmental! There are MANY Christians today that still celebrate Christmas as the birthday (regardless of if it’s the “correct” date or not) of Christ. Christian families still come together and praise God and thank him for bringing his son into this world to redeem us. If you don’t believe this, you have every right not to, and no one can push this belief onto you. This billboard is just plain disrespectful. Why go out of your way to insult Christians, or any religion for that matter, like this? You don’t have to believe in it, but have some respect for people’s religions!

    • jael

      How do you respect LIES?!!

  • Indigo

    This is very offensive. If atheists choose not to have a religion, they are free do to that. No one is telling them what to believe, so they shouldn’t tell people what NOT to believe. This was a waste of “advertising”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2ROHTTPGLUUCDHXXH6FAAMELBQ D

    When disasters hit this country, the first thing they do sometime in the aftermath is have a prayer vigil, & there are no quran quotes being offered, etc. Only words from Biblical scripture. You don’t have to like it or want it, but when disaster hits you, don’t call on the God from Biblical scripture to come rescue you since you don’t want it.

  • infamissone

    how is it offensive?

  • http://www.facebook.com/issa.lopez.77 Issa Lopez

    I wonder why the atheist only come after christianity, they wouldn’t pull that kind of crap on another religion.

  • Mary D

    It not really pushing atheists views, I am a Christian and don’t believe in Christmas because first its celebrating a birthday and then its a celebration that comes from a pagan customs. So if you celebrate Christmas are you really doing for Christ or yourself?

  • ANTMilf

    ……which is why the world is so friggin’ screwed up!

  • speakup4truth

    You better Keep Jesus if you know what’s good for you!.

  • kay

    I love how groups like this push thier views on others and consider it telling the “truth” but the minute anyone who have views different than thiers says something we are to aggressive!!

  • JH

    Why are you even worried about Christmas if you don’t believe in God!?!?!?!?

  • jorgalane

    Not all atheists are like this. If religion and the idea of god gives you peace then go for it. Believing did not give me peace, so now I am a peaceful atheist. I wouldn’t even think of doing something like that. Check out humanists websites where money goes to different charities and non profits.

  • Dee

    God is imaginary dot com check it out. We become atheist because we used to believe in the myth.

  • IllyPhilly

    Okay so is Jesus the son of God? God in human form? A regular overrated philospher or what? Because I’ve always struggled with that part of christianity.

  • IllyPhilly

    Okay so is Jesus the son of God? God in human form? A regular overrated philospher or what? Because I’ve always struggled with that part of christianity.

    • Negress

      Theanthropos, the God man. It has doctrine explains it but it’s still a mystery. A mother made by her own child. Theologians call it the Mirifica Commutatio, the Great Exchange. The son of God became man to make sons of men sons of God.

      • IllyPhilly

        Thanks for info. I’m gonna do some research.

    • Negress

      Theanthropos, the God man. It has doctrine explains it but it’s still a mystery. A mother made by her own child. Theologians call it the Mirifica Commutatio, the Great Exchange. The son of God became man to make sons of men sons of God.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/thesapphireempress96?feature=results_main A.J.

      Jesus is the Son of God, the second part of the Trinity. (God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit). He was made flesh and dwelt among us so that we might have eternal life.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/thesapphireempress96?feature=results_main A.J.

    This is extremely offensive and disrespectful on all levels. Just as they have the right to not believe in anything, I have the right to be a Christian. I try to respect everyone’s beliefs (or lack of them), so why can’t they show me the same level of respect. What I don’t understand is why atheists attack Christianity so vehemently; I don’t see them attacking Muslims or Jews in the same way. I agree with the other posters; they’re putting a lot of effort into proving that Jesus doesn’t exist. Theoretically, if they’re right, what are they so concerned about? I also wonder if they realize that Santa, who they’re promoting, is based on a Christian saint, or that in folklore, he actually encourages children to say their prayers and remember the true meaning of Christmas. They claim that they’re trying to encourage people to “dump the guilt”, but it seems like they’re the ones feeling guilty.

  • That’ll Preach!

    “So how am I to respond? I’ve decided that I really don’t care about their motives, whether mixed, bad, or indifferent. Every time one of them opens his mouth, Christ is proclaimed, so I just cheer them on!

    And I’m going to keep that celebration going because I know how it’s going to turn out”. Philipians Chapter 1:18-21 from the Message. Thanks Paul, I couldn’t have said it better myself.

  • iluvm

    I wonder who they call on when they have a tragedy in their life. We all are smart enough to know that MONEY CAN’T BUY EVERYTHING! It can’t pay your way into HEAVEN! It can’t buy mercy from JESUS! Having money just makes things a little EASIER that’s all.

    • chanela

      actually most of them had someone close to them die that makes them angry at god and start believing that he allowed them to get killed.

    • chanela

      actually most of them had someone close to them die that makes them angry at god and start believing that he allowed them to get killed.

    • Dee

      We don’t need to call on an imaginary friend when tragedy hits. We know that life happens, and I believe in myself. It’s called faith for a reason. Look it up, you’ll be surprised…

  • Negress

    Now if they went after Muhammed Muslims would light up Times Square like a Christmas tree. I see they chose their target carefully. Anyhoo, on 12/25 everything will be shut down. His birth split time in two that’s what I know. I don’t care if he wasn’t born on the 25th. I know the Catholic church hijacked the winter solstice so they could keep a crowd but can’t nobody prove that he wasn’t born and that he didn’t die. When you can find a body, I’ll stop believing he’s seated at the right hand of the Father making intercession for me until the day I see him face to face. Whensenever he was born, he was born. Tell whosenever ever got issues with it I been born again, Merry Christmas!

    • Nadia

      “Now if they went after Muhammed Muslims would light up Times Square like a Christmas tree.” Will people just stop making general assumptions like this? It’s not because there are extremists in our religion that all Muslims are like that. Of course they will protest but “lighting Times Square like a Christmas tree” really? SMH!

      • Negress

        If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. It’s not just a couple of fruit cakes with extra nuts. Didn’t Maya Angelou say the first time someone shows you who they are believe them. SMH! is right. Don’t forget 9/11, the jeep in Times Square packed with explosives, and other foiled plots mark a pattern. Speaking of Christmas, remember the “Underwear Bomber” caught himself on fire? That was only December 25, 2009. Too many clowns and not enough circuses.

    • Nadia

      Muslims actually believe that Jesus was a very important prophet. So I personally find all attacks against him offensing.

      • Negress

        Nadia that’s a mature attitude that shows respect for others. “I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic – on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg – or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a mad man or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to Now it seems to me obvious that He was neither lunatic or fiend: and that he was consequently, however strange or terrifying or unlikely it may seem, I have to accept the view that he was and is God.” Clive Lewis

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4TC2GNVJI3KE4UNJAFZRSDT7NQ Lisa

    I was taught that we are knot suppose to judge because we all will have to be judged one day. And we are not suppose to try to force our beliefs on anyone.

    • IllyPhilly

      Roger that

  • Roxanne

    Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus. The creators of this sign may have had other intentions, but the message is the same. Jesus was 33.5 years old when he died (around march/april) the bible says. counting months from December -_-_>April only gives you 4 months. putting his birth back in September/October and NOT in december when it is too cold and rainy for the shepards to be out in the fields.

    I think the message was not that Jesus is the myth, but that Jesus in Christmas is the myth. Commercially, Jesus picture is never displayed… fat ole’ satan’s picture is. a.k.a., old saint nicholas. Who was a saint who brought orphaned children presents. So, take the Myth of Jesus in X-mas out and leave it what it is… Merry shopping and going into dept.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kevin.british.12 Kevin British

    $25,000? when they are starving ppl in 3rd world countries, ppl looking for a cure for cancer and AIDS, schools that needs improvements and orphans who just need 1 toy or a home…
    I don’t see them ANY better than the same CHRISTIANS they are bashing…I could find a lot of things, that that money could’ve done..SMDH…#I wish their was another planet I could move to…

  • Nia

    From the quotes it seems they believe in Jesus they are choosing to deny him, which makes their argument all the more worse and a lie.

  • greentea516

    They would not do Hannukah like that. Let the Jewish people get treated like this and it would be a whole new story. The more this country pushes God out of the picture, the worse the picture will be. Christ is the real reason for Christmas (regardless of when He was born), not some pagan rituals. Praying for the American Atheists…

    • Dee

      Do more research please. Christians stole pagan rituals.

      • r.holmgren

        Are you suggesting that any given day of the year can only be used by one group, FOREVER, to be used to celebrate something? Seriously?

        • Dee

          I didn’t say they couldn’t celebrate; just that it was stolen. That’s all. Happy Holidays!

      • Dichu eba realy lub mehSteebie

        Christians did not steak pagan rituals. We don’t sacrifice people for Gods, or practice magic. We took a negative thing and made it into a positive while converting those same pagans into Christians.

    • Dee

      Do more research please. Christians stole pagan rituals.

    • Dr. of Mythology

      Its all pagan rituals. The only thing Christ about Christmas is the word Christ. Mistletoe.. pagan fertility. Christmas tree…in honor of the Winter solstice just renamed Christmas tree. Yule log…in honor of the sun god’s rebirth…shall I go on. Saying Christ is in Christmas is just like saying there was a traditional marriage in the bible when we know David had wives and concubines.

  • Buttercake

    Misery loves company.

  • ilovethe lord

    Christians, Muslims and Jews need to protest this

    • TRUTH IS

      Muslims, Jews do not acknowledge/believe in Christ, so it doesnt affect them so they wont get involved. Religions divides!!!

      • IllyPhilly

        YES! That’s what I don’t understand. Even within the same sectors there’s divide.

      • pfeiffer87

        Jesus is a prophet in Islam, so muslims do believe in jesus, just not that he was God’s son.

  • guest

    I don’t think its a stunt and I don’t think its offensive. It is what it is. Either you believe in the Lord or you don’t.

    Either way, he loves everyone of us. No billboard can change that.

  • Meyaka

    I wouldn’t go that far,I have no problem with Christianity,it’s Christian’s I can do without. The billboard has to go down,it’s just vulgar.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

      So does the DOMA and pro life billboards. They scream of religious hierarchy

      • Meyaka

        Blatant! You believe in marriage only for the people you FEEL deserve it and you’re pro life yet fornication is common in the church? Drink or drive…. Can’t do both…

  • TRUTH IS

    GOD has no religion!!!!!

    • olivia

      Best comment on here…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=122803412 Claudia Maria Zayas Moreno

      Neither do I! I go by faith alone! I always laugh when atheist try to say oh because your religion this or your religion that smh I have ONE God, NO religion! I don’t need a church to congregate in his name, I don’t need a church to follow my savior

      • Tamz

        Yaaaaaaaassssssss!!!

      • Tamz

        Yaaaaaaaassssssss!!!

    • Dr. of Mythology

      Thank you thank you thank you. Reading all of these post just makes me sad for my people and our obsession with the only religion our ancestors were allowed to learn about. To say we only believe in the “God of Isreal” mimics the fact that we are so obsessed with European hair. Where is our self esteem? December 25th was hijacked by the Christian faith because everyone else was celebrating God during this time of year…including Egypt. The Christians wanted to pull more believers into their pyramid scheme so they miraculously made that the day Jesus was born.
      I am a believer that God is and always has been omnipotent, omnipresent and the creator of everyone. Not just the children of Israel or in the minds of Black folk…just those who pay for the preachers mansion. God is awesome. I am a student of Myth and will soon have my Ph.D in mythology. I am certainly no atheist though and think they do go a little too far even though their point is valid.
      I also think Christianity is a big part of the downfall of Black America. Just imagine if we had some sense of the Goddess in our spiritual beliefs. Black women wouldn’t be degraded so much by our men if they didn’t think we were just an after thought to serve them like the Myth of Eve. By the way did you know Adam’s first wife was Lylith? Probably not…black folk only know what Massa taught us. Unfortunately

    • femmegauche

      But that means you are still a theist. Atheists are the completely opposite of that.They do not believe in the existence of a “god” or they don’t believe that the entity that theists like yourself consider a “god” is really a “god” in the first place. A god to them is a supernatural all-knowing all-encompassing powerful entity that can prevent evil and create good.

  • Just saying!!

    I didn’t even finish reading because that first statement already rubbed me the wrong way. “you’ll never get why atheists go on these malicious tangents”—sorry but are you FRICKING SERIOUS!? Christians are NOTORIOUS for that. Great way to start of unbiased!! You people need to stop assuming that everyone on this site is Christian just because they’re black!! Thats annoying! But anyway I do not consider this act worthwhile and think it was very unnecessary. For one, the majority of people (Christians included) have already removed Christ from Christmas or forgot about him. Only thing I ever hear anyone talk about is gifts, not God. That is one reason why as I have gotten older I chose to celebrate Kwanzaa to get back to having a purpose. That being said, although I don’t identify as an atheist, I’m not a Christian either and know what it feels like to have people always trying to shove their religion down your throat. So please don’t assume that’s an atheist trait because religious people have been doing that since the beginning of time AND killing people who thought otherwise. But I agree that this act was very wrong. Just wanted to clarify that…

    Secondly, I don’t get why atheists need an organization if they don’t believe in anything :/ this doesn’t look good because religious people assume being atheist is about being evil anyway when in actuality its just not believing in God. Make an organization for it and it becomes just like the other organized religions that they criticize.

    • IllyPhilly

      I agree, I feel there’s so many unanswered questions and if you ask is pretty much sacrilige. I guess I consider myself agnostic. I’m still stuck in what I grew up in and what I truly feel.

  • pickneychile

    They have every right to post that billboard but my question is why are they so hype to discredit something they “don’t believe” in? When people have to work so hard to put down what somebody else believes in, that is majorly fishy to me. And they are always hating on Christianity specifically which is also quite interesting. I wonder if people who hate on Christians and hate on God realize they are actually fulfilling the words of Jesus himself who said the world would hate us because it hated him. Just remember there are no atheists in foxholes.

    • IllyPhilly

      BS on that foxhole thing. Most soldiers I know lose faith on the battlefield.

      • Dichu eba realy lub mehSteebie

        Then their faith was never that setting to begin with. Just because you believe in God and follow the Bible doesn’t mean that your life will be all peachy keen. He tests our faiths by letting things happen to us. Its whether we choose to keep him in our hearts is what determines if we are accepted into the kingdom or not.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

    Where in the bible does it say December 25 is Jesus birthday? Nowhere. People blindly celebrate stuff and are happy with non-answers and ignorance. Church people are the worst. They all claim to have read the bible, but still celebrate “Christmas.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/amanda.browne.7165 Amanda D. Browne

      I don’t celebrate Christmas because it’s the DAY Christ was born because it isn’t. I celebrate Christmas BECAUSE Christ was born. I think that’s the point. Not trying to start an argument. :) Just wanted to let you know that Christian’s know that December 25 isn’t the day. Just like Good Friday/Easter isn’t the day Christ was crucified or rose. We still choose this time to celebrate that he did.

      • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

        Shouldn’t you celebrate that ALL YEAR? The atheist were on point.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=122803412 Claudia Maria Zayas Moreno

          We do! Every time we pray to him and praise him and thank him for sacrificing himself for our sins we ARE celebrating this! Every time we pray at the table, every time two or more congregate in his name we are celebrating this!

      • JaneDoe

        Thank you.. The point is he was born and died. Chick going absolutely HAM for a point that wasn’t even stated in most of the comments

      • infamissone

        Christians should not celebrate birthdays:

        Even though the birth of a baby has always been a cause for much joy, the Bible makes no reference to a birthday celebration for a servant of God. (Psalm 127:3) Was this simply an oversight? No, for two birthday celebrations are mentioned—that of a Pharaoh of Egypt and that of Herod Antipas. (Genesis 40:20-22; Mark 6:21-29) Both events, however, are presented in a bad light—especially the latter, which saw John the Baptizer beheaded.

        “The early Christians,” notes The World Book Encyclopedia, “considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a pagan custom.” The ancient Greeks, for instance, believed that each person had a protective spirit that attended the person’s birth and thereafter watched over him. That spirit “had a mystic relation with the god on whose birthday the individual was born,” says the book The Lore of Birthdays. Birthdays also have a long-standing and an intimate link with astrology and the horoscope.

        Birthdays are pagan and deeply rooted in divination:

        “When you are entered into the land that your God is giving you, you must not learn to do according to the detestable things of those nations. 10 There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer” no horoscopes, no christmas, no birthdays in order to be a christian Deut 18:9-10

        • Negress

          Luke 2:8-12
          8 Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And behold, an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. 10 Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. 11 For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.

          We’ve been celebrating ever since, care to join us? Thanks be to God for his unspeakable gift.

    • infamissone

      so… ‘christians’ would not put up christmas trees either if they love god so much ”

      Jeremiah 10:1-25

      Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel. Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good.” … christmas trees are plain old idol worship. i’d rather be an atheist than a half-assed christian

  • NaturalJem

    Why put forth so much time, money & energy to try and deter us from our faith in Jesus Christ? SMH…at the works of the Anti-Christ

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=122803412 Claudia Maria Zayas Moreno

      AMEN! Glad we can all see through the BS :D

      • speakup4truth

        You need JESUS!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000270870803 Kenneth Williams

          This statement perfectly illustrates why we nonbelievers find you religious nuts so condescendingly offensive. I could just as easily and legitimately say that you need a lobotomy just as much as I need JEEEEESUSj!

    • MLS2698

      True. And this is nothing new. I can remember the first time I saw the word ” X-mas.” I was 9 years old and could not understand what it meant. The word takes Christ out of Christmas. All people want is their gifts, Christmas trees and other decorations. SMH

    • SheBe

      I have a always felt that non believers should go to work on Christmas and Easter. If their place of business is closed petition to make sure that they are still able to go to work. ;-)

      • http://www.facebook.com/CASSANDRATHOMAS Cassandra Thomas

        if i had a choice, i would choose other days to take off but i can’t. i only get on personal day for the holidays of my choice besides normal vacation

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000270870803 Kenneth Williams

      Why put forth so much time, money and energy to try to force everyone to live according to your Christian “values”……In fact, I hear far more insulting, condescending, irrational BS from religious people than I ever hear from nonbelievers.

      • SMHgurl24

        Ohh lately I hear WAY more insulting, condecending, irrational BS from “atheist like” people then from religious. Yea you get the occasional religious nut but most of the things I see are from nonbelievers who think they’re superior because they have “proof” from sources that they honestly know nothing about. Fact of the matter is that these ppl ONLY put this sign up to piss people off. They don’t give damn about those suffering in strict religous families because if they did they wouldn’t put something as insulting as this.

      • Kaori

        Exactly.

  • Jamy

    Yeah, like believers aren’t offensive. “you’re an atheist, you’re going to hell”
    If you could reason with a religious person, there wouldn’t be any religious people.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

      True

    • Just saying!!

      Amen!! I remember I was debating with this girl and she’s like ohh you’re a rationalist or something like that or that I use logic and I can’t do that to understand her religion. I’m like so you’re aware that you throw all your common sense out the window? How do people not see themselves smdh…God gives you a brain and then you say he doesn’t want you to use it lol

      • Meyaka

        Yes!!!!!!!!

      • Crystal

        God operates in the spirit so technically your mind is not the target of gathering understanding when it comes to the things of God. I can understand what the girl meant when she said you don’t use logic to understand God.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=122803412 Claudia Maria Zayas Moreno

          EXACTLY! If ppl would start opening their hearts instead of trying to decipher everything they would understand the true meaning of faith!

    • infamissone

      I agree, there is a serious lack of logic and reason among religious people. It’s sad really to stay in the dark like that.

      • SMHgurl24

        I fail to see how logic has anything to do with reigion. I’m not sure you understand what logic is, could you please explain.

  • JaneDoe

    They can do whatever they want to but as for me and my house we will continue to be thankful for the Christ in Christmas who died for our sins.. These ppl are going to be sorry the day they have to stand before the our maker

    • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

      Ignorance/selective bible reading…….Christmas is NOT Christ’s birthday. Who told you religulous people it was December 25? Genesis? Romans? Not wait….Revelations.

      Our maker would probably be angry we got his birthday wrong lol. You teach your kids this.

      SMDH GTFOH

      • pickneychile

        How is it not being the actual day an indicator that its wrong? I’m just confused by that reasoning..

        • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

          The bible does not imply December or any 12 month calendar year. It certainly does not indicate a day. Your reasoning is all the more reasons why it should not be celebrated, because no one knows for sure.

          • littleoleme

            We may not have His birthday right, but isn’t the important thing to celebrate, remember, and honor Him 365 days a year. I think God is more concerned with that.

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=122803412 Claudia Maria Zayas Moreno

              Exactly!

            • MLS2698

              True. True. True. This is why I don’t buy into giving gifts and going into debt around this time. Whatever I want to give to a person, God has blessed me to do that all year, not just in December.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=122803412 Claudia Maria Zayas Moreno

            As long as we acknowledge his sacrifice and he died for our sins he wont care what date we use to celebrate this!

      • JaneDoe

        Chile I will not argue with you bc you sound very angry. Thats what I was taught as a child and I’m running with that. Believe what you want to as I will continue to do the same… I won’t knock you or others for your believes. But let me say this God bless you lol… Hope you get some something so you won’t be so angry

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=122803412 Claudia Maria Zayas Moreno

          Amen!

        • infamissone

          so you were taught this as a child and that’s it… everything you were taught as a child is what you as a grown person will stick to now? so is big bird still real and not a person is a giant yellow bird suit? Nikia didn’t sound angry at all… she actually posted a fact… or are facts angry?

          • Sheena

            But you see she didn’t even address the fact. Smh. Sheeple.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=122803412 Claudia Maria Zayas Moreno

        Our maker wont care about the date! As long as we united/congregate in his name he will be happy! You attempt to ridicule our faith has FAILED! Feel free to try again if you wish but you will ALWAYS fail!

      • JH

        Does it really matter if we got the actually date right?!?!? Who cares! This is the day that we selected to honor the birth of our Savior Jesus Christ!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=122803412 Claudia Maria Zayas Moreno

      AMEN!

  • http://twitter.com/MizzJazzyPeach J Mc

    If they don’t want religion pushed on them they don’t need to push atheists views on other religions.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

      But it is pushed down peoples throats, or do you not pay attention to politics?

      • http://twitter.com/MizzJazzyPeach J Mc

        I do pay attention to politics and I do agree that religion shouldn’t be pushed on people either. My statement goes both ways, but I’m responding to this article and this topic. Just like not all religious people are judgmental, condescending zealots, not all atheists make it their mission to make people feel stupid for believing in what they believe in.

    • Na Na

      I’m Muslim and even I’m aware their is more of a myth in santa fat a$$ than in Jesus, who you was a great man.

      • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

        *dead* LOL ^^^^

        • Miss Anonymous

          +1

      • SheBe

        Really? Doesn’t the Quran teach that Jesus is a prophet and that Abraham is the Father of Islam? Also, doesn’t the Quran also teach respect of the the ‘religions of the river'; Christianity and Judaism are to be respected? I was told this a while ago by a friend from Iran who is of the Islamic faith.

        • Nadia

          I’m a Muslim and what you said is correct. Muslims do believe that Jesus was a prophet, a very important prophet actually.

          • Na Na

            So what about him being a great man negates that he was a Prohpet? You people just try to pick battles, I hope you have unlimited internet cuz yall just surf to beef with random strangers.

        • Na Na

          This is true…and I’m waiting to see the disrespect in my statement. Was it calling santa a fata$$? Or was it me calling Jesus a great man?

          Don’t worry….I’ll wait.

          • SheBe

            Please do. I said no where in my statement that there was any disrespect and neither did the other poster. Hostile much? It appears that you’re looking for the “beef” yourself. It’s ok. Have a great Christmas.

          • lovely

            You’ll wait? You really have nothing to do huh? How sad, you could spend your time volunteering to help the less fortunate instead of waiting on internet replies.

  • aprettylovely1

    I agree with the writer, why spend all that money on someone that doesnt exist to you. I dont belive in the tooth fairyand I just choose not to belive, I would not spend money to inform children that I don’t belive. Who looks crazy? Why go out of your way to prove a point? Silly

    • Miss Anonymous

      +1. They coulda just printed out flyers with the same thing on it and put it on peoples cars and gave me the rest after they spent $100 to photo copy it so I can pay off my student loans and buy a car.

    • chanela

      exactly!! yet every atheist i know make it a point to turn everything in to a religious debate or post things that are anti religion 20 times a day on their facebook. spend your time and energy on something you LIKE! damn!

      • Kaori

        My Facebook wall is usually filled with Christians promoting their beliefs. Shouldn’t they spend their time and energy and something else as well?

        • chanela

          are you serious? there isn’t even a comparison. saying ” godbless” to people on facebook or posting scriptures is FAR different from posting insulting and disrespectful things about other people. i’m sure the christians on your facebook aren’t being extremely negative in their posts. the atheists i’ve seen do nothing but argue with people over little things and then somehow bring up religion and then call the person an unevolved idiot simply because they are part of a religion.

          the level of disrespect is sickening. these same people call for unity and tolerance for the gays, yet if they find out that you’re a christian then they say things like you deserve to die and that you are pathetic for your beliefs.

          • Kaori

            I didn’t say anything about people posting scriptures or saying ‘godbless’.

            How can you be sure of what goes on on MY Facebook page? Anyway. The point is that Christians and other religious folks aren’t innocent.

            • Dichu eba realy lub mehSteebie

              U brought it up so y don’t u enlighten us what goes on on your Facebook.

        • chanela

          are you serious? there isn’t even a comparison. saying ” godbless” to people on facebook or posting scriptures is FAR different from posting insulting and disrespectful things about other people. i’m sure the christians on your facebook aren’t being extremely negative in their posts. the atheists i’ve seen do nothing but argue with people over little things and then somehow bring up religion and then call the person an unevolved idiot simply because they are part of a religion.

          the level of disrespect is sickening. these same people call for unity and tolerance for the gays, yet if they find out that you’re a christian then they say things like you deserve to die and that you are pathetic for your beliefs.

    • chanela

      exactly!! yet every atheist i know make it a point to turn everything in to a religious debate or post things that are anti religion 20 times a day on their facebook. spend your time and energy on something you LIKE! damn!

  • sabrina

    Absolutely disgusting!

    Like…we as Christians couldn’t dare put up a poster telling people to follow Jesus/believe in God or else they’ll be yelling “separation of church and state” or some other BS like that.

    GTFOH!

    • Papillon

      You should live in the south. I see posters/billboards like that ALL THE TIME.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAI4SRENU2A5WKRTELXXYJPDSI Kayla

      We still have lawmakers making laws geared towards Christianity, it still says in god we trust on our money, and we still say under god in the pledge of allegience.

      • Dichu eba realy lub mehSteebie

        Yes but they have taken out of the schools and children stories.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAI4SRENU2A5WKRTELXXYJPDSI Kayla

          It’s still in public. In some states they are trying to teach creationism in schools, when it has no scientific backing.

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