One Woman’s Right To Have an Abortion

October 29th, 2012 - By Jasmine Berry

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“If I always remember, then I’ll never forget and make the same mistake twice.”

Elise*, 22, paused for a moment, staring at nothing and no one in particular as she recalled the moment she was having an abortion performed. While visiting family in New Jersey, she was introduced to a guy through her cousin. The two hung out a lot, resulting in them sleeping together.  She left New Jersey to return home to Maryland, before starting college in Miami, only to find that she was pregnant at 18 years old.

“I knew what I had to do. It wasn’t one of those things you think about more than once,” she says, with a heavy sigh. “I was scared, but there was no turning back, you just do it.  I was squirming at first, and the doctor told me, ‘If you squirm again I can’t take this out.’ I laid still and just beared with the pain as he sucked it out. When he was done, I watched him pour it down the drain.”

She opted to stay awake during the operation, in order to teach herself a lesson.

Elise’s story is not unfamiliar to many young women. According to Abortion.org, 50% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: women aged 20-24 obtain 33% of all abortions; teenagers obtain 17% and girls under 15 account for 1.2%.

Women’s rights has taken center stage in the current presidential election. And, with that, the controversial issue of abortion has become an incessant point of conversation.

While President Barack Obama fully supports a woman’s right to choose, his opponent does not. Softening his initial, aggressive stance, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said he would back laws in support of protecting life. Earlier in the presidential race, he said he wanted to cut funding for Planned Parenthood and appoint judges to overturn Roe vs. Wade.

When Elise had made her decision, she went to Planned Parenthood to have her abortion performed. The procedure cost around $300. Elise says Planned Parenthood is a good resource for those who need it, and even believes the abortion numbers would be higher if taken away.

“It’s not your decision,” says Elise, referring to the constant debate between politicians over a woman’s right to an abortion.  “If I had kept my child, I would not have been able to go to school, to better myself, and provide a life— and then I would have been a statistic. My parents would not have helped me, and then I would have been looking around—mad at the world, when it was my fault.

“They’re not the ones who are quick to be a statistic,” said Elise, about the Republican party’s stance on the issue.

According to The Alan Guttmacher Institute, the most common reasons women receive abortions are due to interference with school, work, not wanting to be a single parent and not being able to afford a child.

Though this happened years ago, there are times when Elise is reminded of her decision.

“Every now and then I get a baby killer text message or phone call,” she says in reference to the guy who impregnated her. He wanted her to keep the child, but offered no assistance in wanting to help raise their child.

She now takes birth control pills and whenever she is in a relationship, she always uses protection. As of now, she’s undecided about whether she wants children someday.

Elise resides in Maryland and is finishing her last year of college. She hopes to own her own event planning business in the future.

*Name has been changed.

Jasmine Berry is a senior majoring in journalism at St. John’s University. Follow her on twitter @signedjas and her blog.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tiffanie-MadameGigglez-Thomas/665285721 Tiffanie MadameGigglez Thomas

    To those who have issues with it lemme ask you this: its MY vagina and MY uterus so why are YOU concerned?

  • maggie

    All these black pro-lifers need to re-learn history outside of the US and their years on Earth:
    1)You can quote the Bible all you want–so many of you (black people) became Christain when white people forced you . . so technically that movement came about 500 years ago–not long since Black people have the oldest genes in the world

    2) abortion has existed for a long time and in many countries . . abortion is not new or some product of “irresponsible” behavior

  • Yvette

    Where in the world do you have an abortion where they pour stuff down the drain??? Blood, sharps, etc. aren’t discarded casually at a reputable medical facility. I know plenty of women who’ve had abortions and NOTHING like this has ever happened. I’ve had an abortion myself and the actual procedure wasn’t painful and nothing was poured down a drain. The cramping afterwards was worse than the procedure. Sounds like this story was made up to add drama.

  • Gimmeabreak78

    I wasn’t comparing an unborn chickent to a human being. I was comparing an egg to a chicken. Nice rant.

  • STARO

    Dear Abstinent-Christian-ProLIfe-Virgin (Yay! for you),
    I’ll ask you the some of same questions I asked another poster: When was the last time you provided shelter to a single pregnant woman? How about some reliable long-term childcare? Maybe . . . some (on-going) financial help? Now, I’m really curious: how many unwanted children have you fostered or adopted? Never? None?
    See, I’m guessing you’re still praying for a husband so that the fantasy of righteous holy union will be fulfilled in your lifetime (keep hope alive, girl!). In the mean time you feel it your place to (atop a high and holy white horse named “Virginity”) to point the accusing finger at women whose circumstances and paths of life you don’t know. Shame on you.
    If you believe that we as a people are complicit in our own genocide, then be part of the solution . . . ADOPT, impact lives that alredy here (before your prince arrives)! As a Christian (Pentecostal) I don’t doubt this country’s moral decline, but I hate it that some how women are made the sole villains here, all but ignoring the often hostile climate in which they must exist (social, political and economic). Let’s leave judgement to God alone.

  • Ms_Sunshine9898

    Amen!

  • GeekMommaRants

    Spermatozoa is not a living organism or is an Egg. Each by themselves are not alive. They are the ingredients that lead to live. Being alive is a state of being able to function outside the mother’s womb. This the definition of human live. The developmental stages are blastosis, embryo, fetus and finally a baby. At no point is a blastosis, embryo or fetus a human being. A baby is of course a human being.

  • Kiya

    I am pro-choice mostly b/c I don’t believe forcing someone to have a baby they don’t want and then possibly kill it after it’s born. The news lately saddens me with girls and young women giving birth and beating/starving/not caring for their kids that die anyways. I turn the channel on those stories b/c maybe if they had an abortion a 2 yo won’t suffer and die due to the mom being overwhelmed. I just want politians to mind their OWN business and stop telling women what to do, but not offer any assistance. Especially since they also want to stop Assistance programs and limit Welfare services making life even harder for these ppl. I also saw a comment where if they take away birth control abortions go up I AGREE! That only makes it worse!!! Now they are ruining for responsible women too! :-( (

  • GeekMommaRants

    Science says if the embryo does not attach there will be a miscarriage and most time the woman does not know she is pregnant. Spermatozoa and Eggs combine to create life. Life does not exist until the embryo attaches AND starts to develop. This process creates a fetus, still not a human being. That comes near the end of the second trimester. The more we know!

    • lovely00

      science also says we came from apes#not drinking the koolaid

      • GeekMommaRants

        A proof of evolution is nipples on men. if the bible were true, Adam would not have nipples or mammary glads just like a woman does. The reason men have nipples is because all embryos are female. Men get breast cancer, just like women, as we have the same organs. If men and women were not evolved, men would not have breasts.

    • lovely00

      They also do abortions in the second and sometimes 3rd trimester, please understand that life begins at concption bc a hearbeat does begin and its not just a bunch of cells.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eliza-Beth/100003391668904 Eliza Beth

        A heartbeat does not begin at conception. Have you ever seen a fertilized egg? Heartbeats don’t occur unless the egg attaches and grows.

  • artofblaqueness

    This was a well written piece. It mirrors my experience with the one and only time I had an abortion twenty years ago. I was very thankful I had the option; my life would have been very different (and not in a good way) had I not had that choice. I would never want this country to go back to a time where it was not an option for women, and I would NEVER support a candidate who would want us to go in that direction.
    To those who would complain about the small percentage of women who use this as a form of birth control, why not regulate people who choose to smoke excessively? Or people who choose to overeat? Or people who abuse prescription drugs? Is it really about a health issue for you? And for those who admit it’s about morality, why not prosecute people who choose to be promiscuous in the first place? Or people who chronically cheat on thier spouses? I am tired of so-called Christians picking and choosing what from the Bible can be regulated and what is grown people’s private business between them and thier God. Either it all is or it’s not. You do not get to choose for me.
    Now if only Madame Noire would stop running all these lame Romney ads, I would feel so much better. :-(

  • Ms_Sunshine9898

    I’m prolife, and in the end it always amounts to responsibility for me. You know how babies are made and created, if you can’t handle the outcome why bother with the risk? Smh, shame at the excuses made to excuse living in the moment instead of preparing for a life time. . .

    • nique

      Amen. If you know you can’t afford a baby, don’t have irresponsible sex. Or suffer the consequences. Don’t Take the punk way out. Be a
      woman and take care of your responsibility. Btw, I’m a woman.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eliza-Beth/100003391668904 Eliza Beth

      Ok great. Then don’t have sex. But for those that do make that decision and choose to have an abortion it is none of your business. Forcing women to give birth is rape, and the only person who will end up getting hurt after it’s all done is the kid. millions of kids without home in the world and your main concern is the unborn. Glad we have someone like you around.

      • Ms_Sunshine9898

        How can equoequilvilate giving birth to rape? There are too many kids in this world not getting what they need as it is, why do you justify people irresponsibly creating even more kids and then killing them because you were to selfish to protection anyway? Madness at you trying to justify irresponsibly and selfish desires over growing up and taking responsibility for preventable actions. . .

  • 1Val

    I am pro-choice. I believe women should not have to justify to anyone for any reason the right to control their bodies.

  • Jackie

    This is a very touchy subject, but this girl’s story does prove a point. The article stated that the majority of abortions are because of not being able to go to school,or have a career, not rape. That is why I appreciate my Christian faith and the bible where it teaches that sex should be for married persons only, this way we can avoid unwanted pregnancy, heartbreak, diseases and abortion. Read psalms 139:15 & 16. This is where the belief that the embryo IS a life in Gods eyes. He even went so far to give a law for what the outcome would be for someone who harmed a woman’s unborn child. Abortion is wrong and I try to keep myself out of situations that will keep me from even having to consider that option.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

      Funny, God put out a law for people, but ordered hits on unborn babies like he was the godfather…more than 10 TIMES. Selective Christian bible readers. God’s the last dude to quote. I read the bible, and he wasn’t that compassionate…..

      • Jackie

        If u r talking about the account of Pharoah then as God always does he warns people before destruction. Pharaoh would not let His chosen nation go. He sent Moses several times to warn him of what would happen if he didn’t. Pharoah was too proud and thought he was a god. Again god warns before he bring divine justice.

        • Jackie

          You do have a point, God is not compassionate to anyone who deliberately opposes Him, especially, after several warnings. He is our Creator and deserves our reverance. The bible tells us to take in an ACCURATE knowledge of God and His Son, Jesus because it will lead to everlasting life if we do so. He is the most compassionate Being because he sent His only Son to this earth, in a man’s form, to die for everyone’s sins so we have the chance to gain everlasting life back. -John 17:3, 1 Timothy 2:4, John 3:16

        • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

          Divine justice is doing what he so called is against? You chided people for abortions, but God gets a free pass? Those werent even voluntary abortions. Do as i say, not as I do at its finest. I guess we were made in his image LOL.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2015378 Katrina Anderson

          Yes, Moses warned Pharoah and Pharoah refused. God reacted by killing all the first-borns in Egypt (presumably many babies and children) who had nothing to do with the agreement between Pharoah and God. How is that considered justice?

          • lovely00

            That is the punishment Phaoah chose himself and since he was ruler over the land that is why they were punished like. Make sure he read the whole chapter before judging# God is forgiving, but He also has His limits

            • lovely00

              you, not he

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2015378 Katrina Anderson

              It’s been a while since I’ve read Exodus so I’ll admit I’m a bit rusty so I must be missing the part where God didn’t kill innocent babies and children. If God is all-powerful and makes the rules himself, why didn’t he decide that Pharaoh’s punishment would only affect Pharaoh? Or is God really not all that powerful and is actually bound by the rules of mortals like Pharaoh? Either way, God directly killed the babies and children or permitted them to be killed.

              Also, it’s unfair to blame Pharaoh when the Bible clearly says over and over that God hardened Pharaoh’s heart so that God could show off the kind of power he had. God deliberately manipulated Pharaoh yet God gets none of the blame???

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eliza-Beth/100003391668904 Eliza Beth

              So you’re saying you agree with murder, if god is the one doing it but, not if the woman chooses it for her the sake of her own life and body…interesting.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2015378 Katrina Anderson

          Or will we rationalize that God did all the babies and children a favor by killing them and sending them to heaven?

    • http://www.facebook.com/jdrana Jaye Es Bellisima

      In the bill of rights, there is a seperation of church and state… So even though in the bible it may say this and it may say that… And don’t get me wrong, I believe in Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins. He also gave us free will.. (went on tangent) … so in order to challenge Roe V. Wade you gotta use a different argument hun…

  • Gimmeabreak78

    At the end of the day, people are going to have to come to terms with the idea that for most women, having an abortion boils down to an economic decision. Sure there will be women who have abortions due to rape and incest, but for most women, the decision to have an abortion has a lot to do with whether or not she is on stable enough financial ground to not only see a pregnancy to term, but also effectively raise a child. I am pro-choice. I don’t think abortion is a great thing. It is intensely personal and should be left up to the pregnant woman to decide. What I don’t understand about the pro-life political group is that they are so gung-ho about forcing a woman to have a child she is not financially ready for, but demonizing that same woman and her child for being drains on the system when they reach out for government assistance. Is is really pro-life to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, but say “forget you” when the child is born?

    • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

      They are not pro-life when they support wars that kill people, support dealth penalties, cut education, healthcare, circumvent laws they impose on us when a mistress gets pregnant, etc. They are PRO-BIRTH….. Now let’s say it together……

      • Gimmeabreak78

        To your point about circumventing laws–a very prominent Tea Party member and Christian evangelical was exposed as having an affair recently. His mistress ran to the press when he tried to pressure her to get an abortion so it didn’t ruin his image. What’s good for the goose…

        • guest

          Was Bill Clinton a Tea Party member? How about the Kennedys and all their mistresses? Thought so. You sound ridiculous. The death penalty kills someone who is guilty, not an innocent child whose only crime was to be conceived. We are PRO_LIFE….now let’s say that together. Ridiculous!

          • Gimmeabreak78

            You sound ridiculous. The point was that a pro-life Tea Party member wanted his mistress to have an abortion. Bill Clinton is very pro-choice, so there would be no hypocrisy in that desire. Also, the Kennedys were pro-choice as well. Follow the bouncing ball.

    • ona2684

      Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! My sentiments exactly. People seem to care so much more about a fetus that has nothing to do with them than they do about a living breathing human being that is already on this planet.

    • http://twitter.com/MsRedboneBrite Tee Elyse

      HELLO!!!!! 100% agree with this entire comment!!

    • STARO

      I agree. Abortion is so INTENSELY personal. The myriad circumstances that bring women to that decision cannot be legislated. As a society, we should be more concerned about creating an environment (political, social and economic) that isn’t hostile to women and children (the largest impoverished groups in the U.S.). Let’s be pro-equality, pro-opportunity! I hate the Right-to-Life debate, it creates vilains and victims where there are none.

    • Yvette

      Very well said. Most Pro-lifers just don’t like women having choices. There are plenty of countries that would be better off if they practiced birth control and had alternatives when the birth control failed.

    • http://twitter.com/docbndgrl9113 Keesha (Киша)

      “Is is really pro-life to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, but say “forget you” when the child is born?”

      THANK YOU!!!!!!

  • SheBe

    This will be long and is a little off topic but i wanted to share my thoughts. I’m pro-life (with the exception of rape and incest). After having my first 6 months ago, and being a new stay home, I joined one of those online communities for moms. I was really a lurker to get tips and see how other moms structured their day being a stay home. In the various forums I read through many about abortion. I was SHOCKED at the number of women who use abortion as a remedy on a regular basis. Some women were on their 3 rd or 4th and were barely 20! Now granted this is a fraction of society but still. My heart sank because I had to “try” to have a baby due to endometriosis and fibroids. I’m one of the lucky ones who was able to conceive. After reading I started thinking. Now this is a stretch but we as a society have to start somewhere to solve problems right? What if abortion clinics were available at a much higher cost? Not the few hundred that it is now but more like a couple of thousand. Would that make people think twice or would we have more babies in the world unwanted? For people who are victims of rape/incest they would receive free treatment if they press charges against the offender (I’m aware that some wont know the offender so that’s where there’s a roadblock). This is a stretch but it came across my mind. I know there are a ton of what-if’s and all that but I think there has to be a way of curbing the issues that plague abortion. I do think that responsibility is the first line of defense but things happens. At the end of the day we have to do what’s best for us.

    • http://twitter.com/MsRedboneBrite Tee Elyse

      I’m actually pro-choice, but I agree with you, concerning the women who use abortion as a means for birth control. I’ve never been pregnant, so I could never say “If you’re not ready to be a mom, then give your baby up for adoption.” because I honestly don’t know what I would do in that situation. One, if you’re having sex, you should know that it’s a possibility unless you are being cautious about it by using contraception or protection. But then again, I know that things happen, so we have to expect the unexpected. I know coming to that decision isn’t easy, and I salute the women who are strong enough and wise enough to make that decision. But women who are constantly getting pregnant and running to the clinic like that’s the way to handle it are sick. Period dot!

      • SheBe

        I agree! Now my comment and yours is not to discredit this young woman’s situation. I was just so disgusted at the number of girls on a couple of websites who do this like its nothing! They actually believe that it’s ok and that’s what abortion is for. Like you said, when you have sex you know what the consequences are. It’s just become a non factor these days.

        • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

          A small percentage of women actually use abortion as birth control. Just saying

          • Gimmeabreak78

            Exactly.

      • STARO

        @Tee Elyse: I’m curious . . . are you equally disgusted at the number of black children being raised in father-less households? I worked as Welfare worker in a large city for a number of years. Let me tell . . . my “disgust” seemed to know no end when women (poor as dirt!) would show up with 1 in the stroller, 2 on the side and another in the belly. They obviously saw the miracle of life, yet couldn’t see the walls of poverty closing in around them and their off-spring. My point: there’s plenty of reasons for “disgust” to go around. A woman choosing to avoid poverty at all costs (except contraception) is her business. Even if your tax dollars pay for the repeat visits to the clinic . . . trust me: it’s cheaper than the cost of delivery and a at least part of a life-time finance on public assistance in any form.

        • lovely00

          We are so a dying race with this kind of thinking. We have too many birth control methods to use this as an scapegoat#EPIC FAIL!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eliza-Beth/100003391668904 Eliza Beth

      So you don’t women to have abortions because you couldn’t conceive? Sorry, no one is living for you.Cry me a river you anti- abortionist hypocrite. You don’t give a damn about babies. There are millions of them already out there and you chose not to adopt for your own selfish reasons.

      • SheBe

        Do us all a favor and go play in traffic. Reading comprehension is fundamental. Please put away your E-balls. I’m not impressed.

      • maggie

        you got called out

  • Charla

    I’m not Romney fan and definitely will not be voting for him but his official stance is that he is only for abortion in cases of rape, incest, and if the mothers life is at risk. Those are Obama’s personal views as well. Obama political stance however, is Roe v Wade. I think a lot of people agree with both of their personal stances. I do.

    • Dee

      Romney’s stance has changed so many times, when he was a moderate republican that was his stance. Now, I have no idea what his stance is, but i know his VP pick is against abortion in any case.

      • Gimmeabreak78

        First Romney was pro-life, then he was pro-choice. Now he is pro-life again. I don’t think he’s pro-life or pro-choice. I think on abortion and a lot of other issues, he is simply multiple-choice.

    • guest

      Obama also believes in partial birth abortion. I don’t understand how any decent human can say that a child that is fully formed exiting the birth canal can have its skill pierced and be legal. Look it up. So to get real, what is worse? Romney’s stance on abortion and Todd Akin or partial birth abortion? I think most dencen people would say Romney…nice try though.

    • guest

      We’ll try this again, since the moderator deleted my comments which are a fact by the way. Obama is for Partial birth abortion and voted for it as a senator in Chicago. What about a baby that is full formed being murdered as legal don’t you understand? I will take Romeny’s postion any day over that. The fact is most people go back and forth on a number of issues througout their lives….it’s called evolving.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAI4SRENU2A5WKRTELXXYJPDSI Kayla

    Abortion debate is getting old. You do know that a person can be pro-life and pro- choice, at the same time. You can be against the idea of abortion but not force that view on others. It’s always funny to hear people scream murder, but don’t give a damn once the baby is born.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000183911796 Steven Gant

      If your playing a game of semantics then sure u can be both. But you can’t be practically, if you are pro life you can’t sit idly by and allow someone to be murdered.

      If ur pro choice then you believe human beings have the right to murder one another.

      • Gimmeabreak78

        I hate it when men comment on abortion. SMH.

        • love

          Its interesting how its almost 20-30 years later and Black woman are the leaders of aborting children. Lets not forget we are a dying breed bc our men are locked up, we are intermarring, or we just choose to have 2.5 kids.#its amazing what affirmative action and civil rights gave us.

        • Ms_Sunshine9898

          Yet we expect them to “man up and take responsibility” for the children we give birth to after screaming “it’s my, body my choie!” YIf you won’t give a man a say so in abortion then women need to be 100% responsible for the children coming out their bodies since it’s “our bodies, and our choice”. . .

          • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

            Bull….pure bull…

            • Ms_Sunshine9898

              How? Women love telling men to stay out of our bodies and it’s our choices alone to decide what happens with it when we become pregnant, and just like the story above, get abortions without the father’s consent. If any woman can deny a man the decision to choose what happens to his child, she has no right to tell any other man or any man for that matter that he needs to pay child support. You really sound like a fool if you can’t see that there is a double standard with women, we want the rights exclusively to what comes out of our bodies and yet we want men to step up and pay for the abortion or provide child support. Hypocrisy and foolishness. . . .

              • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eliza-Beth/100003391668904 Eliza Beth

                How is it a double standard? The kid grows inside of HER BODY. NO one can make choices for her body except her. Is his body going through all the changes and his life being put at risk? NO. If men can force a woman to give birth, is it okay for a woman to force a man to get a vasectomy? What part of its her body do you not get? He has no right to it.

                • Ms_Sunshine9898

                  Exactly if he has no rights to what’s going on in her body despite helping her create life, ten she should have none when it comes out, meaning women should be 100% responsible for their children since it’s their body and the choice is theirs if it comes out of it. You just proved my point!

                  • guest

                    Preach!!!

                • Darin

                  Your reasoning starts at a point that has already fell too far down the slippery slope to be built on any kind of stable foundation.

          • http://twitter.com/docbndgrl9113 Keesha (Киша)

            I partially agree. I think that only the woman and man involved in creating the baby should be the ones to make a decision. If the woman doesn’t want the baby, but the man does, then I do think that the man should have the right to raise his child.

        • Dee

          We all know birth control isn’t foolproof, everyone won’t be good parents and plenty of kids are never adopted. I agree that men should have the right to choose just like women. If they want to opt out in the first trimester, men should be able to officially give up their parental rights. Just like abortion, it would be irrevocable. This would reduce women trying to ‘trap’ men and men couldn’t decide to be parents if and when it’s convenient.

          • Darin

            ^ The above point has an element of sensible fairness to it.

        • Darin

          Using your reasoning, a man should have no say in a child’s welfare ever.

          • Gimmeabreak78

            My reasoning is that a man shouldn’t have a say in whether a woman continues a pregnancy, any more than a woman should have a say in whether a man should have a vasectomy. It is her body, just like it would be a man’s body. A child brought to term is a totally different affair.

      • STARO

        Dear anti-murder proponent,
        When was the last time you took a single-poor-pregnant woman into your home? Provided financial support? Maybe some reliable long-term childcare?
        Never?
        O.k. . . . have a seat and always wear a protection (we don’t you breeding that extremist, narrow-minded stupidity).

        • SmaraOpaka

          You’re perpetuating a logical fallacy.

          Using your same premise: Everyone that demonized Michael Vick should have adopted a dog that was a victim of abuse, right? Since, animal abuse is wrong right?

          You’re not even arguing against the same topic he is. Your advocating for poor single mothers. Sorry boo, but that doesn’t make abortion any more wrong OR right. Take a course in critical thinking.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eliza-Beth/100003391668904 Eliza Beth

            It is not a logical fallacy. You anti- woman activists love to talk about how terrible murder is but only care when it’s the unborn living inside someone else’s body. But if it’s a kid in Iraq being blown to bits by the military you are silent. When this same innocent child you were pulling for needs food or housing, you have nothing to say.

            • guest

              Who is silent? Again, meaningless innueundos. Where is your outcry on Libya? Presumably you have nothing to say there either. Folks I know who are pro-life are outraged over this situation and Prof-life, so what’s your point?

          • guest

            Preach!! I love these meaningless analogies that pro-choices people use. What does that mean, when was the last time you took a poor, single pregnant woman into your home? Do you know every poor single pregant woman? Who takes in people they don’t know? I’ll tell you what though, if I knew the person then yes, that would be an option. Stupid anaology.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAI4SRENU2A5WKRTELXXYJPDSI Kayla

        you’re a guy (i’m assuming) and you can’t even get menstrual cramps, but wanna school women on what they should do with their bodies. sit the fawk down

      • lalatarea

        Or u believe a clump of cells is NOT tantamount to a human being.

    • STARO

      Pro-lifers just kill me with their hypocrisy! I don’t believe that ANYONE who has never carried a child, offered shelter or long-term reliable childcare and/or financial support to a single (or overwhelmed) mother SHOULD EVER impose a pro-life opinion on anyone. Until you’ve walked in her shoes or helped to carry her through . . . just sit in the corner and nod. Until then, they’re part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

    • pfft

      Not true i’m anti abortion,war and death penalty.murder is murder is murder. Whether you end life with a gun or by medical procedure its all the same in my eyes.

      • Gimmeabreak78

        So I guess, when you go to Denny and order your eggs sunny side up and they bring you a breast and a wing it’s all the same to you? Please.

        • Darin

          Having gone through a miscarriage with my wife, yes it is the same to me. My poor little baby buried in the back yard hurts me the same way as if I had seen him or her breathe before giving back to the creator.

          • Gimmeabreak78

            Let’s go back to what “the same” means within the context of this conversation means. Pfft was asserting that all human intervention in the ending of a human being’s life is murder. I’m saying it’s not the same. I am genuinely sorry about your wife’s miscarriage. If you are saying that the pain or the grief experienced after a miscarriage is the same as the pain or grief experienced if a child were born and then died, then I agree. However, her miscarriage of her pregnancy is not murder.

    • guest

      Who doesn’t give a damn once the baby is born? What statistical proof do you have of that? Any Catholic Charity in the US will promote the birth AND provide resources to help in rearing the child. What are you talking about? Sounds cute, but then why let facts get in the way, right? Prove your point about one person who was encouraged to give birth, but then an agency turned its back on an innocent baby. I suspect you have no proof, just meaningless innuendos.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAI4SRENU2A5WKRTELXXYJPDSI Kayla

        You can look at any orphange and foster care system. It’s simply terrific that catholic charities take care of these children. But why aren’t orphanages empty because pro-lifers just love them so kids? Don’t let these white celebs fool you, there are still a great number of blacks kids being passed over for white kids. And btw adoption is an alternative to parenting not pregnancy.

        • guest

          Orphanages aren’t empty because most people want to adopt babies and not children. Regardless, the founder of Wendy’s was placed for adoption and not aborted. Ditto for Steve Jobs. Where would we be if their birth mothers chose abortion? You don’t know what any of those children will turn out to be and it is better to give them life, so some couple can adopt. What a tragedy that woman who truly want babies cannot have them, but most just abort at will like water.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAI4SRENU2A5WKRTELXXYJPDSI Kayla

            Those people were probably not aborted because they lived in a time where abortion was highly stigmatized. No matter how many great stories there are, there are still thousands of kids, trapped in the orphanages, and foster care system. For every Steve Jobs there are thousands of kids, who won’t be a steve jobs. If couples want to adopt there are still thousands upon thousands of kids available. to choose from down at your local orphanage. So go scoop up some :) .

            • Gimmeabreak78

              @Kayla. Exactly. Not to mention that those people weren’t just born in a time when abortion was stigmatized. They were born in a time when abortion was illegal! Steve Jobs and Dave Thomas were born LONG before Roe v. Wade.

        • guest

          Again, orphanges aren’t empty because people prefer to adopt babies and not children. I love how the moderator keeps deleting my comments. The fact is the founder of Wendy’s was given up for adoption and not aborted, as was Steve Jobs. Where would we be without Apple? You don’t know what these kids will turn out to be, so better that they have their lives to do with what they want. Too bad lots of women want children, but cannot have them. However, some can and just carelessly abort time and again

      • Gimmeabreak78

        Are you serious???? How many times have you seen poor single mothers demonized by politicians and everyone else in society? Where does the phrase welfare queen come from? Why do some politicians make it their life’s goal to get welfare reform? It isn’t so all the happily married, middle-class and wealthy women can stop living off the governement. It’s so all the poor single mothers who gave birth to children they knew they couldn’t afford would stop living off the government. YOu are truly living in a bubble if you do not acknowledge this.

  • gee

    In my opinion abortion is wrong. It is something I would NEVER choose for myself. That’s only my choice. Every woman should have the right to choose what is best for her.

    • http://twitter.com/docbndgrl9113 Keesha (Киша)

      I would only choose that if I was raped, or if it was incest, or if giving birth would be harmful to me. I personally think that using abortion as a form of birth control is wrong, but I can’t tell others that they can’t make their own choices.

  • KIR12

    The average s3xually active healthy woman who doesn’t use protection will get pregnant 5 to 10 times during her lifetime. S3xually active women who don’t use female contraceptives has made multiple trips to the abortion clinic. That condom almost always is not used or not used as frequently when trust is built and emotions and feelings are involved.

    That’s why 50% of all black pregnancies are aborted.

    • getyourfactsright

      50% of all black pregnancies are aborted? Really and where did you get your facts( i use the term loosely) because that is definitely your OPINION. You need to do your research because you are so wrong. Please people know what you are talking about before you go posting percentages on the internet.

      • Gimmeabreak78

        Actually, the figure that 50% of black pregnancies in the US ending in abortion comes from Planned Parenthood.

        • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

          That does NOT translate to 50% being aborted, just that 50% of the actual procedures happen at a specific place.

          • Gimmeabreak78

            Fair enough, but Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in the world. Also, no study has a sample size of 100% of the population, so to your point that Planned Parenthood’s statistics don’t represent all the abortions performed in the United States, that is factually accurate. However, because abortion in the United States is overwhelmingly a function of economic inability to see a pregrancy through and raise a child, it makes sense that black women would have more abortions than their actual proportions in America bcause black women on average are more economically disadvantaged compared to their white, Asian, or Hispanic peers.

            • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

              This is true

            • lovely00

              Why are yall giving her a thumbs down? She telling you to truth, I guess it just hurts. I hope the education and money is worth killing black babies since abortion is the new contraception.

              • Gimmeabreak78

                I’m confused. Who am I supposed to have given a thumbs down?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2015378 Katrina Anderson

      My reasons against multiple abortions are from a health standpoint and not a moral one. A woman should have access to whatever abortions she deems necessary but let’s not forget an abortion is a surgical procedure and should be treated as such.

      The high rate of abortions among black women shows how birth control isn’t stressed enough in the black community. Maybe enough black women aren’t educated on the different birth control methods available. Maybe they can’t afford their preferred method. Maybe they aren’t using birth control correctly. I don’t know. All I know for sure is that talking about abstinence is getting us nowhere and the sooner we can shut it down, the better.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

    Taking away contraceptives INCREASES abortions. Abortions should be between the doctor and patient. Thank you for knowing you were not ready, and sucking off welfare. The whole “life begins at conception” is singularly and wholly a Christian belief anyways. You did what was right for you and the embryo. It wouldn’t have had a dad, and being a baby momma is also an injustice.

    Lol @ him wanting to make you be a single mom. Why he still have you number, tho?

    • KIR12

      Life does begin at conception. That’s not based on religion that’s based on science. Whether you want to end that life and have an abortion is on you.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAI4SRENU2A5WKRTELXXYJPDSI Kayla

        What science?

      • GeekMommaRants

        No it does not! Contraception takes 7 days to happen. If an embryo does not attach to the uterine wall, guess what, you get nadda. Science is your friend, learn it!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/nikia.dshiznit Nikia D-Shiznit

          Thank you. A ball of cells is NOT a person. Zygote, embryo, fetus, baby. Folks need to look it up. To Kayla, what do you mean by “what science?” Why is there a resistance to science, but contentment with non-answers?

          • pfft

            But not every abortion is a ball of cells. Some are fully formed babies.

            • GeekMommaRants

              Only third trimester abortions are fully developed fetus’s. A human being lives without help or assistance from the mothers body. Meaning without her lungs or food store.

              • lovely

                So what do you call the hearbeat that you hear after a month. Last time I checked a heartbeat meant you were alive. I didnt know you could live without your heart#ijs

          • Darin

            So how would we go about condemning God?

      • Dee

        If you can take the “life” out at conception and it survives, then you can call it “life”, until then it is not a “life”.

        • lalatarea

          YES!!! #ThatsAllImSaying

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2015378 Katrina Anderson

        It’s estimated that up to half of all fertilized eggs spontaneously abort (miscarry) before the woman ever knows she’s pregnant. Why is no one blaming God for aborting babies? Embryos are routinely discarded by women going through in-vitro fertilization. I don’t hear any Christians crying that IVF is murdering babies. Birth control struggled to gain mainstream acceptance in 1917 and was largely a taboo topic among Christians but now widely accepted.

        My point is that perceptions on life is due to the religious zeitgeist of the day. One hundred years ago, people fought against birth control. Today, it’s over abortions. Who knows what it will be tomorrow? Wherever the winds of fundamentalist Christianity takes us, I guess.

        • Gimmeabreak78

          Excellent point about IVF. It is used by many Bible-thumping pro-lifers as a way to have children.

    • BricCity

      2nd that! Delete the past, that reminder, that mistake. Cut all ties with the negativity from him.

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