You Know When It’s Real: It’s Okay To Say Your Boyfriend Is Going To Marry You

October 17th, 2012 - By Alissa Henry
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When my husband proposed to me, I was blown away. We hadn’t been dating for two years yet and I’d always thought that I’d date a guy for at least that long before we got engaged. We hadn’t looked at rings and I was surprised that he was able to keep his plans a secret from everyone we knew. The proposal was a treasure hunt and I was unnerved that he’d hidden a huge pink & green gift bag holding the first “clue” inside in my apartment (in my bedroom!) without my knowledge for more than a week.

You know what wasn’t surprising about his proposal? The fact that he wanted to marry me. I knew that already.

I thought about that while listening to Brandy’s most recent Breakfast Club interview. The singer has not been shy at all about her desire to marry her boyfriend A&R producer, Ryan Press. In fact, in May of this year she told Ebony magazine, “I wish we were engaged.  He’s taking a little long on the ring side of things, but I’m patient.”  A few months ago she asked Sister2Sister magazine readers to “keep your fingers crossed for sometime soon I will be engaged.” And when the Breakfast Club asked her about a possible engagement, she said “a ring is coming”.

Brandy’s openness about wanting to be engaged has definitely drawn criticism and most are painting her as thirsty, desperate, clingy and co-dependent. But why? Because she knows she wants to marry her boyfriend and is giddy about a possible proposal?

This isn’t to defend Brandy per say. Maybe she is desperate. She obviously doesn’t realize that one interview on the subject is enough because the advent of the internet means five hundred blogs will repost one source. Interviewers keep baiting her by asking about her love life and she remains candid and continues to talk about it.

But I think her brazen honesty about what she wants is something other women should try in their own going-nowhere relationships. Brandy and Ryan have reportedly been dating for more than two years. They’re both self-sufficient adults. If they’re not dating with the intention to get married — and they both intend to be married to someone some day — then what are they doing? I can only assume that the two have discussed getting married and now she is just (publicly) anticipating the proposal. In that case, it’s different, but not desperate.

In fact, if Brandy were a guy telling the Breakfast Club that “it’s a great thing when you’re in love with someone and you’re connected. You want to share your life with them” then panties would be all over the blogosphere. But because she’s a woman who is open about her desire to marry her man then she is labeled a “thirst-bucket”. Why is that?

It’s okay for a woman to be confident that she is marriage material and that her boyfriend loves her and wants to marry her even if she isn’t engaged yet. In fact, I would hope that a woman does know that before she gets engaged. Why should the fact that a man wants to marry you be a surprise? This isn’t some ridiculous chick flick. In real life, it makes sense for marriage minded adults to date intentionally. I once heard a guy say, “[seriously] dating someone without the intention to marry her is like going to the grocery store without any money.” I agree with that.  If you’re in a serious relationship with a man, it’s not wrong to have the conversations that result in the expectation that he wants to marry you, just like he should be able to go out and secretly get a ring because he expects you want to marry him too.

The problem is so many women allow men to get serious with them without being serious about them. A woman is admonished not to “pressure” him or “rush” him lest she “scare him away” as though what she wants in the relationship doesn’t matter. Why aren’t men made to feel like dragging their feet indefinitely might scare women away? If it’s okay for a man not to want to get married then it’s okay for a woman to want to get married. Why are women always the ones who are supposed to relax and “wait it out”? Why aren’t men encouraged to man up and commit?

It’s hilarious that women will eat up articles describing “365 Ways To Know Your Boyfriend Wants To Marry You” but if another woman already knows her ring is on the way then she’s the object of scorn and ridicule. Maybe some women aren’t interested in just dating a guy forever, living with him for years, and popping out his babies. Maybe some women desire to move beyond “wifey” to “wife”. Maybe some women would much rather scare the wimp away and be alone for a few minutes than be dragged on for years by the same guy without ever getting married.

Maybe some women are justifiably confident that he’s going to pop the question eventually….and if you asked their boyfriends, they’d tell you the first clue in her Treasure Hunt proposal is already hidden in her bedroom.

Follow Alissa on Twitter @AlissaInPink or check out her blog This Cannot Be My Life.

 

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  • psylocke_2001

    I just think she should stop telling everyone who asks. Relationships should be kept private, these mags that keep asking her about it are gonna be the same ones ragging on her and making fun of her if she doesn’t get the ring. I don’t want her to be humiliated.

  • psylocke_2001

    GRAMMAR POLICE: it’s per se, not per say. “This isn’t to defend Brandy per say.”

  • gmarie

    “Thirsty” or not a closed mouth won’t get fed. In most other cultures women make no qualms letting their partners know their plans for marriage. It’s expected and and for lack of better words demanded. I personally don’t think she’s doing anything wrong by letting her desires for the future be known. Now that he knows what she wants, the ball is in his court.

  • Madame Noire Bye

    You know what I am done with Madame Noire. The writers are so clueless. They argue in the comments section…. and they try to defend stories by writing about the same subject matter after reading comments. You first posted this story when she was in sister to sister, then again when she was on the breakfast club. Then the article praising her for being on point … ok its great that you like Brandy but every-time your comments disagree with you do you have re-write a story again to make your point again!!! No it is thirsty, in a lot of ppl opinion to keep pushing and rehearsing someone to marry you. Alot of people feel she is doing too much. THe only reason why its being brought over and over the endless blogs about it is because you Madame noire keeps writing about what she said , then article defending what she said, then an article trying to speak for her logic…. Uhm you cannot do that. No one knows what her logic is. I cannot stand blogs where writers keep arguing with what they read in the comments… Arrive to your own thoughts naturally and move on to the next topic. If you wrote a post about beyonce being over saturated many will agreee and disagree. Get over it. Please …. You did the same with the girl that got hit on the bus…talking about what if she were a man. MADAME NOIRE Sit down. Write about the consequences they now face and if its fair. Stop arguing your point over and over. You make your point write the blog and move on.

  • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

    “The problem is so many women allow men to get serious with them without being serious about them.”

    That is the best quote I’ve read in a long time. I think it is a little presumptive though for Brandy to blabber on about how the “ring is on its way” that sounds desperate no matter how you dress it up. A man of his means isn’t saving up for a ring or something like that. He hasn’t asked because he doesn’t want to. The article is well written and I agree with the premise of women laying it out that she wants to be only in committed relationships that end in marriage. Nothing wrong with wanting that and nothing wrong with expressing that.

  • realadulttalk

    It’s ok to say it–but you might wanna be very sure before you broadcast it. And you may wanna be 100% sure you are not dating a serial engager. Sometimes I realize I must know the silliest lot of women b/c I know of 3 who have been involved with serial engagers. One of my friends has been engaged 3 times to 3 different men and has never made it to the ceremony (those men were all engaged before or have been engaged since and no one is married). Another got engaged to a man who unbeknownst to her, was also engaged to 3 other women (they all had the identical CZ ring–I felt bad for them, but dang was that funny) and another got engaged to a man who really only gave her the ring to “get her out his face” (his words, not mine) but had no actual intentions of marrying her (he left her, allowed her to keep the ring and is engaged again). So while you may know you are going to get engaged–I’d be far more concerned with knowing that I am going to enter into a successful marriage and stay there.

  • afroveda

    This kind of sucks for her boyfriend. How is he supposed to surprise her when she constantly has that any-day-now attitude?

  • Wow

    If Brandy is saying the ring is on the way and it hadnt gotten here yet, she may be ready for marriage but he’s not at least not with her. If a man wants to marry you he doesn’t have to be hinted and cajoled into proposing. Men aren’t as fickle and indecisive as we are. If he knows you are THE one it doesn’t take five years for him to come to that realization and you should stick around that long to wait him out if you know that what you want isn’t currently were he’s at with you.

    • Wow

      S/b Shouldn’t stick around…

    • MLS2698

      Yeah, sounds a little thirsty.

    • realadulttalk

      Thank you! My ex-husband told me he knew the day he met me that I would be his wife (now if only he’d known how to act like a husband). My brothers have both said very similar things about their wives.

    • Caydence James

      Now that is very true…. I understand her maybe mentioning that she would like to get married someday but to repeat it over and over again AND keep mentioning him almost seems as though she’s trying in her own way to convince him through peer pressure or something and that’s not a good way to enter into a marriage.

  • http://www.facebook.com/amanda.browne.7165 Amanda D. Browne

    You know Alissa, normally when you do opinion pieces I dont agree but girl this one is on point!! I totally agree. If you are confident in your relationship and know where it’s going why not talk about it? I know my bf and I are getting engaged in the near future. So I’m not afraid to bring it up.

    • http://twitter.com/AlissaInPink Alissa (Uh-LEASE-Uh)

      Thanks Amanda!

    • Na Na

      That’s funny because I feel the exact same way. Alissa I’ve noticed a more upbeat trend in your articles that I like.

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  • Reese

    If a man ever proposed to me I know I’d be shocked. The thought of marriage has never crossed my mind. A wedding, yes. A marriage, no. But if you know that’s the direction your relationship is heading in, I definitely think its okay to express your desire to get married.

    • Miss Anonymous

      Im the same way but opposite of you, I want to get married but I dont really want a wedding. lol I had the conversation with my boyfriend and he was like “every woman dreams of a wedding when their younger and blah blah blah” and I was like “yeah I want to get married but I never thought of no dress, bridesmaids, flowers, etc. I only have like 10 or 20 at the most I would have to come to a wedding if I got one but I rather just get it done at the courthouse, get decent rings (that we will upgrade after 10 years) and have a get together dinner with family and friends.”

      • Reese

        My grandma has a joke about getting married at the justice of the peace. She says she hasn’t seen any justice or peace since.

        • Miss Anonymous

          Lmbao!!! Grandmas always have the craziest jokes and stuff.

        • Caydence James

          Gurl! That is funny!!!!

    • afroveda

      ” A wedding, yes. A marriage, no.”
      This doesn’t make any sense to me.

      • Reese

        There is a difference between a wedding and a marriage. I have dreamed of how my wedding ceremony would look; the dress, the flowers, and the such. But I have never truly considered a marriage, the actual commitment itself and institution of marriage. Does that make sense?

        • realadulttalk

          Yes–you realize something that people like Evelyn Lozada and Kim Kardashian did not. You know you want a wedding–you are just not so clear on your desires when it comes to the things it takes to make a wedding happen.

          • Reese

            Exactly. Marriage is a serious commitment. I haven’t met a man yet where I could say I’d be comfortable making a vow of commitment for life to.

  • L-Boogie

    Interesting.

    • Everything is everything

      We all know you don’t want a ring! With Ol can’t nobody love me like I’m gonna love me asss

      • L-Boogie

        LOL! No, I am actually a romantic. However, I have seen how many men like to play games instead of coming correct. But if I meet him I will let you know.

        • L-Boogie

          Women play games as well.

          • Nikki

            Women play hard to get because men play hard to keep.

        • realadulttalk

          I cannot envision you as a romantic!!! Lol You sound more like a maneater.

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