All Jokes Aside (Kinda): D. L. Hughley Writes An Open Letter To Chick-Fil-A

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August 10, 2012 ‐ By madamenoire

Source: starpulse.com

From BlackVoices

Dear Chick-Fil-A,

You and I sure have had our share of good times. I fondly recall the first moment I ever met you: it was at the Atlanta airport. I’d always heard about you, and was a little nervous to approach. You were everything everyone said you were and more. It was truly love at first bite. I told you I’d come back, and I did — time and time again. We met in various cities all over the country, each time better than the last, as if we’d never been apart. Isn’t that what true love is, where it picks up right it left off?

You can imagine my excitement when I heard you were moving west to my city, Los Angeles. I’d be able to see you as much as I wanted, with no shame or recriminations. Our love would no longer have to be in secret. We could love out loud, for the entire world to see. I was in bliss, and for a time I was truly truly happy.

But baby, lately you’ve been doing me dirty. You’ve been speaking with a forked tongue, spewing hate instead of frying love. Who would have thought that a chicken sandwich would become a symbol for both free speech and intolerance at the same time? It brings a whole new meaning to the question, “Do you it want light or dark?”

I don’t understand why you’re jeopardizing what we have. You’re forcing me to choose between my heart and my stomach. Your president has said that you believe that a marriage is only between a man and a woman. But if anyone keeps eating at your establishment, the only relationship that’ll matter is between a man and his cardiologist. It’s not like anyone, gay or straight, is getting married in your restaurant — nor will any gay couple ever be serving fried food at their nuptials.

You say that gay marriage is a sin, like in Leviticus 19:22. But a preceding verse, Leviticus 17:14, says, “You must not eat the blood of any creature, because the life of every creature is its blood; anyone who eats it must be cut off.” You don’t cook your chicken in a kosher way. On what grounds are you picking and choosing which edicts to follow?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/EstherHaldane Esther Haldane

    BTW DL [And just to clarify to others who may not know, not trying to debate], re “Leviticus 17:14, says, “You must not eat the blood of any creature,
    because the life of every creature is its blood; anyone who eats it must
    be cut off.” You don’t cook your chicken in a kosher way.” -In the Old Testament proof of following God was about an EXTERNAL demonstration. i.e. dietary laws, certain clothes, circumcision etc. In the New Testament, since when someone dies there is an inheritance left behind. Jesus died & we’re free from those Laws. We now have power INSIDE to obey God & use our bodies the way they were designed. The Kingdom of God is not about meat & drink…..1 Timothy 4:4 “For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,” New International Version (©1984)

  • chris

    well said Mia …..they will follow their white master with their false religion to the end mmmmm

  • Daisy

    I am so tired of this whole conversation. I am a Christian who supports gay marriage/free speec AND I will still eat at chick fi la. I wish Christians would put the FOCUS on Jesus vs a chicken sandwich or fast food chain that is not hurting for any money. Jesus is LOVE #theend

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  • Soulsis

    Reeeeaching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/EstherHaldane Esther Haldane

    I clicked on the full article. This is a profound comment:

    Just in

    5 hours ago (12:59 PM)

    Just so we’re clear:

    CHICAGO VALUES:

    1,097 bars & nightclubs

    122 strip clubs

    58 adult book stores

    228 murders so far this year (more than Kabul)

    2 Chik Fil A restaurants

    Chicago Mayor: “Chik Fil A values are not Chicago values”

  • Cadence

    At this point, whoever is OPENLY boycotting Chik-Fil-A, I’m a boycotting them in response. This includes “D.L.” Tired of the reverse bullying. Plain and simple.

  • chileplease

    I agree whole heartedly with D.L.. U CaNNOT pick and choose what bible verses to obey. Obesity is an epidemic and a crisis. I hope everyone realizes this has nothing to do with gay marriage and everything to with Barack Obama being pro gay marrriage. They care only about our black president not being re-elected. Bottom line.

    • http://www.facebook.com/EstherHaldane Esther Haldane

      On a side note DL quoted the OLD Testament. If we’re going to mention the Bible, the best way to gain understanding about a topic is to find out what Jesus said. [& obviously not everyone will agree but that is what those who say they are Christians are EXPECTED to stand up for when asked & that's all Dan Cathy did.]

      Matthew 19:4-9 New International Version (NIV)

      4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a](A) 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]?(B) 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

  • Enough already

    OMG, I do not want to see any more stories about Chick-Fil-A.
    Someone please go find out about the religion of the presidents of McDonalds
    and Taco Bell and who they donate money to in their spare time so people can go
    protest there. I’m wearing a shirt from Target right now. I guess I need to
    know who made it and what their views are on gay marriage, gun rights, and
    illegal immigration or else I’m going to have to throw my shirt away.

  • realadulttalk

    At what point does everyone allow each person to have their own beliefs and let it go?? I support gay marriage-my father who is a pastor does not. Heck, he doesn’t even believe in people being gay–we agreed to disagree long ago. Can everyone in the world do that?!?

  • Rhacinda Barner

    Why is everyone making a big deal about this? You do not have to agree with him, he has the freedom to say what he wants. A lot of people feel the way he does. No one wants to be judged, but they are so ready to judge someone else.

  • http://www.facebook.com/EstherHaldane Esther Haldane

    By this logic, anyone who does not AGREE WITH CHRISTIANITY IS ALSO PROMOTING HATE. So then EVERY non-Christian is Christophobic! SMH. You see, society has given a small group influence in Hollywood to direct the VISION of this nation. The #1 comedy is what? Modern Family. So naturally, the next step is to imply that anyone who doesn’t agree with that agenda is “intolerant.” I’ve never heard ANYONE who doesn’t agree with Christianity referred to as “intolerant” or spreading “hate.” So if a homosexual doesn’t believe in Islam by this same logic they are hateful to Muslims, Mohammedophobic…SEE HOW RIDICULOUS THIS IS!

  • eestoomuch@aol.com

    @ DL….EXACTLY!!! why i cant get caught up in it? what does the 10 commandments say about “the gays”? what does JESUS say about “the gays”??? it’s ok….i’ll wait!!!!

    • So

      If you really are concerned about what JESUS said, how about his stance on marriage:

      Mark 10:6-9

      “But from the beginning of creation he made them male
      and female.

      This is why a man leaves his father and mother,

      and the two become one flesh. They are no longer two,
      therefore, but one flesh.

      So then, what God has united, human beings must not divide.”

  • Candacey Doris

    All of a sudden I’m okay with this man again.

  • Erin

    Right on! people are always trying to control what others do. People are so caught up in what the bible says, which by no means is wrong people are allowed to believe what they want but using it as a way to keep rights away from citizens is ridiculous. God is love above all else so why not just love people for the way they are and simply pray for them. Respecting others for who they are has nothing to do with your salvation your not going to hell because you simply allow people to be people. Its not about religion its about civil liberties being taken away. They just want the same rights as everyone else. I guess everyone forgets all the lives that have been lost and all the battles waged toward having rights. Is anyone forgetting the civil rights movement? or woman’s rights? (Yes, the struggles are not the same but the principal of the matter is all citizens should have the same rights) Come on people stop worrying about what others are doing, how is that affecting you? How is two people of the same sex marrying affecting you? Is it messing you marriage up? Is God going to send you to hell for not caring what other adults are doing? We are all entitled to our beliefs and opinions (free speech is grand) but it seems that we only like the opinions and beliefs that we agree with. I bet the same people on here telling D.L. to sit down for having what? a opinion? just like who? the president of chick-fil-a? wouldn’t be so quick to yell free speech if that same president would have said something racist. We don’t want others saying bad things about us (Black people) but we don’t afford the same outrage to other groups even when its wrong because hey its not about us so who cares? Opinions are fine but its a business that’s sole purpose is to provide a service and make money. Gay people eat their food just as much as a straight person, a black person, a disabled person why make a statement (opinion or not) that will alienate a portion of your business demographic? be a business first who cares where you stand that’s a personal opinion that you can exercise in your home or at church.

    • Erin

      you’re*

    • bits

      wow! yes and thank you! Yes God is love. So true. but guess what i’m sure this comment will have a thousand dislikes. but it is so true. “Yes, the struggles are not the same but the principal of the matter is all citizens should have the same rights”.

      • Erin

        Most likely but hey everyone is entitled to they’re opinion right? lol but your welcome I thought a lot of your posts were on point as well, rights are rights.

    • guest

      You are kind of misrepresenting what the president of chick-fil-a did. He did not boldly announce his position on gay marriage just for the fun of it. He simply answered a question that he was asked about in an interview, and he gave his take on the issue. It was a non-issue to begin with and should of stayed that way, but the gay rights groups turned out in- full force to try and vilify a man and his organization who everyone already know had strong and long standing religious views. Many pro-gay activists could not tolerate the fact that he had a differing opinion, disagreed with them on marriage and donated to causes he agrees with( pro-traditional marriage), so they were hoping to bully/intimidate him into backing down from his position, but it backfired. I understand where you are coming from and I semi-agree with most of the other things you said. But there is one thing I can’t really wrap my head around. I’ve heard so many people argue that the gay-rights movement is that same as civil rights movement and so forth. How can you argue they are the same on one hand but then say that it won’t affect you so mind your own business in the next? How is this possible….did the Civil rights movement not forever change American society as a whole? Was not every single American past and present, not just blacks, ultimately impacted by the policies and changes that the civil rights movement fostered since its enactment? How can you compare the movements so closely but separate the results so drastically? I believe the results of the Civil rights movement were for the most part very positive, but that doesn’t mean every social movement is per-determined to have positive outcomes( not that I’m saying gay rights is per-determined to be negative). Look, I get your point, but if you are going to argue for ” gay rights”, it might be better to say something along the lines of ” while gay rights will have an affect on Americans I believe the affects will ultimately be for the betterment of American society because..etc,etc”…To deny the changes that gay rights will have on America, it’s culture, and people is dishonest and at best naive.

  • Soulsis

    Dear Open Letter, Please go away and never return.
    Warmest Regards,
    The Orginal Letter (that only required a stamp and not a PR Team).

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  • olivia

    Obviously DL is trying to stay relevant. He knows who has all of the power in Hollywood, therefore he will say anything to please them.

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  • Kay

    I agree with DL Hugley, what does gay marriage have to do with my chicken sandwhich, waffle fries and lemonade? And also all sins are equal so some of you holier than thou christans need to look in the Mirror because you sin as well and being gay is no greater a sin then yours * drops mic*

  • Journey

    uuuummm….its a fast food restaurant

  • bits

    has it ever dawned on anyone that maybe just maybe the bible is more inaccurate than is popularly believed? i mean we’re talking about a single book that was written thousands of years ago, numerous amounts of translations and proven to have missing chapters. seriously? just because you’ve been taught something is the truth all of your life doesn’t make it the truth. now i’m sure heads will start turning 360 degrees and people will have all sorts of “how dare you” comments but all i’m saying is at least take a peak out of the box that you live in.

    • guest

      Are you implying that because someone in religious they MUST be in a box? That’s a pretty self-righteous and condescending position to take.

      • bits

        im saying that people need to re-evaluate the things that they take as truth and nothing but the truth. call it whatever you like.

    • victoria

      As a believer in God and follower of Christ, I believe that God placed in the Bible what we need. You, keep saying do your research, but what research have you done? Have you traveled and studied the bible, read works of multiple religious scholars (Christian and nonChristian)? I heard the same recycled lines from many non believers, ”a single book that was written thousands of years ago, numerous amounts of translations and proven to have missing chapter…” That doesnt sound like research… it sounds you’ve been spending too much time online. And I dont mean that in a con descending way.
      Best believe, recognize and know that the one thing all men- believers, non believers, LBGT, nonChristians, athiests, democrats, republicans, man, woman, child, Chic Fil A haters, etc – have in common is that Jesus is our Lord.

      • bits

        that last comment is a matter of opinion and religious belief and should not be considered when discussing the rights of a people who reside in a “free” nation. the history of marriage has nothing to do with religion. if you do your research (in a library, scholars, online etc) you would find that this is the truth.

  • Jarrey

    DL Hughely has been seriously looking for attention as of late

  • bits

    its funny how mostly everybody on here is bashing DL telling him to sit down, shut up, mind his business but no one is acknowledging the very real discrepancy in the bible verses. is there really no one with an intelligent response as to why its okay to pick and choose bible verses according to what makes people comfortable?

    • Emm

      Thank you maam!

    • guest

      It’s not that complicated, we all fall short so the solution is to follow the bible the best you can. Regardless, the bible stil says what it says on homosexuality, so ignoring that is just furthering the problem of picking and choosing what makes one comfortable.

    • NaturalJem

      the Holy Bible has no discrepancies!!!

      • bits

        so now you can’t read?

        • NaturalJem

          did you really just ask me that?

          • bits

            yes and you should be asking your self the same question.

            • NaturalJem

              no need for me to do so…in regards to your opinions on the Holy Bible i just hope you do your research and come to accurate conclusions.

              • bits

                um okay. great response by the way. typical.

              • Na Na

                Now to say you believe and nothings going to change your faith is one statement but to really attest to the historical accuracy of the Bible is ignorant (meaning lack of knowledge not downing your character, people get sensitive on MN) Please do your research so you won’t call yourself believing in or swearing by something that is false.

                • NaturalJem

                  Na Na….i hear what you’re saying, yes there are sensitive people on MN and my comment did seem a bit forceful and i’ll acknowledge that.

    • victoria

      There is no reason why it’s ok to pick and choose from the Bible what is comfortable to us. And as a Christian, I will admit that I have done that. And I will admit that too many Christians do that – we are hipocrits. But this fact doesnt negate that homosexuality is a sin. The gay community has been successful in making Christians feel guilty about our inability to not sin (let’s not forget this is why Our Lord died for us – because we are sinful). Although, this bullying tactic has not and will not work on me. I actually see it for what it is…an attempt for nonBelievers to turn us from God.
      This is my opinion – my opinion doesnt represent the Christian community; it is simply my opinion… There is a greater agenda here than just gay rights. It’s an attempt for nonBelievers to turn us from God. Why is the gay community constantly telling us Our Word is wrong, outdated, or not true? If the gay community wanted to simply focus on their right to marry they will not tell a group of people that their beliefs are wrong.

      • bits

        its not just the gay community who tells ask christians to re-evaluate their beliefs.

        • victoria

          But why are you? Right now, when this open letter has nothing to do with Christianity? Why are you online belittling our beliefs? Does it bother you that we are believers? Does it bother you that we deagree with your stance?

          • bits

            are you a whole idiot or just a partial? did you say that the letter has nothing to do with christianity and scripture from the bible is quoted IN THE LETTER. this entire fiasco is because of christians and their hateful views towards gays. i could give a damn about your beliefs and the fact that you want to live your life as a zombie believing every word out of an ancient book. my problem is obviously when people like you try to justify treating people like second class citizens based off of what you “believe”. typical self righteous overly religious christian. i guess you believe that all people of color are the descendents of Ham (noah’s son) and that they are inferior because Ham laughed at his father. girl please. try that religious bull on somebody else.

        • victoria

          I have to say that response is surprising especially since you previously stated that many of the responses on this thread lack intelligence. Of course, the gay community arent the only ones questioning Christianity. But why is the LBGT doing so…there’s an agenda

    • chris

      Most of these comments are coming from sad black women who cant hold a good relationship because they are miserable so they feel threaten that gay marriage will put the bad relationship to shame.

  • emm

    So all of you take this same stance on racism right? Your boss doesn’t mind hiring black people or having them as customers, but its perfectly okay for him to be in office talking about how he doesn’t believe that black people are of the same caliber as white people or should be afford the same rights? Okay, just making sure you’re okay with that. Because that’s his right to say it but its intolerant and racist.
    So no the issue isn’t having a different opinion the issue is on civil rights. Civil rights applies to EVERYONE. Gay people, black people, all minorities, women.
    @f20ad7e793bf5de362acac5e0ad413da:disqus you can have a seat too!

    • bits

      Such a great correlation. I don’t know why black people feel that they can remove themselves from the same type of bigotry and discrimination that is going on with gay people in this country. its bigger than just a difference of opinion. black people marched and died to have some of the same rights that gay people are fighting for today. yet black people are some of the biggest opponents of gay people having civil rights. smh. btw i am a black woman.

      • guest

        So gay people have to sit at the back of the bus? they can’t vote? they have to go to different schools? ,there are signs everywhere saying “straight people only”?, they are barred from working with and living in the same neighborhoods as straight people?, are they are seen as sub-human?….the answer to all those questions and many other questions just like that is NO. You don’t hire a gay person, you get sued because it’s illegal. You kill a gay person, you go to jail. black people did not have those “rights” for a very long time, Gay rights and past Civil rights ( black rights) are not the same. They’re some similarities I’ll admit,but the two are not equal, as one was far more severe than the other. To equate gay people not being able to marry with Black civil rights is an insult, it devalues the struggle black people had to go through. That would be like comparing this recent Colorado shooting to the Holocaust or something. They both were tragic events done by the hands of one mad man and many people died, but to seriously act as if the two events are equal would be ridiculous.

        • olivia

          Thanks for this. I was just about to type the same stuff.
          Blacks can’t hop in and out of the closet at when its convenient.

        • Kay

          Thank you! *throws roses at your feet*

      • Kay

        Gay people have civil rights, they can vote, own a gun and eat and sit where ever they want all rights we as black people didn’t have prior to the civil rights movement. The only thing they can’t do Is marry and seeing that this country was built on christian principles that shouldn’t be far fetched

        • bits

          the history of marriage has nothing to do with religion. this country was built on christian principles and slavery. thats nothing to be proud about.

          • Kay

            LOL! Marriage is completely based in religion! From the church to the white dress to the pastor it all comes from whatever religion you are.

            • bits

              wrong. do your research.

              • Kay

                Lol do Marriage isn’t religion based? HAHAhHahHahahahahahahahahhahhaha *takes breath* HAHAhHahHahahahahahahahahhahhaha smh , good day

                • bits

                  nice.

          • guest

            I get slavery but what is so wrong with being built on Christian principles?

          • DeVanneJuiceeJeniceChinn

            there’s slaves in EVERY culture. quit owning it as if only black people were slaves

            • chris

              So because there was slavery in every culture its was ok for black people to be slaved for white Christians people mmmm stupidity at its best.

              • DeVanneJuiceeJeniceChinn

                your quest to reply, but lack of desire to understand what’s being said leads me to realize….u’re just another mofo to ignore as u have no intention to move the discussion further, but only make snide remarks

            • bits

              girl please hush. we are talking about what is going on in america. stay on topic.

              • DeVanneJuiceeJeniceChinn

                So u think only black ppl were slaves in America? I’m in fact, referring to American history, but your small mind broadened my comment further than my intended direction. Black ppl were NOT the 1st slaves on US soil, much like the first black ppl in the US weren’t enslaved… :/ sad

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAI4SRENU2A5WKRTELXXYJPDSI Kayla

          difference is it wasn’t built to ENFORCE christian principles.. If that’s the case then they should ban divorce only if one was unfaithful.

      • Sheena

        STFU

        • bits

          great response.

    • guest

      sigh…so sick of the ” black is the same as gay” mantra….jut another fallacious argument.

      • bits

        please explain.

        • Kay

          I will explain for her, I was born black everytime people see me that can’t help but notice my skin tone. But I can look at a gay person and never know their gay

          • bits

            my point is gay people just like black people are they not? they are being told that they can’t have certain privileges based off of the fact that they are different (unlike the rest of us) correct? how is that different from how black have been and still are discriminated against.

            • guest

              That is such a broad argument you can apply that to nearly anyone. I personally don’t mind when people state that there are some similarities, but to say they are the same implies that they are equal, which is a bit of a stretch

              • bits

                broad or not discriminating against a group of people because of who they choose to love is wrong.

                • bits

                  huh? we are discussing what happened with chik fil a right? so of course i am referring to gay people’s right to love/marry who they please.

                  • guest

                    It started off with chick-fil-a, but did you not go into a more generalized topic of homosexuals, marriage, and rights as whole? Ok, that’s my point, your argument is so broad as to why someone should be able to marry someone else, and what should constitute marriage you could apply that to anyone. You then use your broad argument to specifically talk about homosexuals and discrimination, I was simply pointing out that your argument does not give a solid reason as to why gay people in particular should be excused from what makes a traditional marriage, and should be allowed to marry outside of the one man-one woman union.

                    • bits

                      okay. again. my point is it is wrong to discriminate against gay people in terms of marriage because they are people just like “straight” people and they deserve the right to marry just like “straight” people. how is speaking about homosexuals, marriage, and their rights a generalized topic? those are the basis of what this entire chik fil a debate is about.

                    • guest

                      You honestly don’t see how you veered away from solely discussing the chick-fil- a issue, and started talking about gay-marriage and rights as a whole? When you start talking about religion, rights, and groups other than gays( black people), and putting those within the context of past and present, i just assumed you expanded your discussion. My bad.

            • DeVanneJuiceeJeniceChinn

              black people were/are hated based on SKIN TONE! the gay marriage debate (whether you want to admit it or not) is basically straight people fighting against what goes on in the homosexual bedroom. and homosexuals trying to FORCE the world to believe its a struggle for equality when it is NOT. black people weren’t allowed to vote, gays can. black people weren’t allowed to even eat a chick-fil-a sandwich at the counter/in the restaurant, gays can. black people weren’t allowed to do things that ensure a decent way of life. the gay marriage debate is NOTHING like fighting for the right to exist! if you see a parallel in the civil right’s struggle and the gay marriage debate, then maybe you should hit up Google for more information on Jim Crow, civil rights, and likewise.

              • chris

                Don’t you if gay and black people were protesting the same time about civil rights the same thing would have apply them… gay people have to stand against bigotry as the black people …if you were out gay wouldn’t allow in certain places same as black man in the beautiful land of the Free..Let me inform you in land of my birth , Jamaica people wont want rent you their house if they know you are gay , barber shops don’t want to cut your some shop refuse to service you, gay people are refused jobs and at times people chased out of their owe communities and You talking about gay people don’t go through the same as black people in America you might say this not america but these people are going through the same condition in 21 century, and you know the reason because of this RELIGION .Just as the president said, because of his religious believes so tell me difference? So for minute forget where in the world you and compare the condition of both set of people , now wonder which words describe both, does hate and bigotry come in mind? maybe not because you are both.

                • bits

                  thank you! its just no hope for some people. you can explain until you are blue in the face and they still won’t get it. sad.

                • DeVanneJuiceeJeniceChinn

                  NO ONE KNOWS 2 (WO)MEN ARE GAY UNTIL THEY EITHER START DRESSING/ACTING LIKE A (WO)MAN or PDA!!!! PPL KNOW U’RE BLACK ON SIGHT (9 TIMES OUTTA 10) SO BE FORREAL!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/EstherHaldane Esther Haldane

      Did he say he didn’t think gays were of the same caliber/inferior to other non-gays? NO! I don’t believe in some of the teachings of Buddhism. Does that mean I think Buddhists are inferior? If gays decide not to eat at Chik-Fil-A they can chose to do so, but trying to intimidate someone who chooses to honor God & not be intimidated by their agenda, that’s not going to work. People are forgetting marriage is a social issue that maintains the stability of a society. We know single parents have been relatively successful in raising children but it takes a man & a women to CREATE a child so why not advocate for those principles? People get married to initiate a household union MAINLY relative to establishing a family. There is sooo much more to this issue than people realize, that’s deeper than 2 people’s sexual preference.

  • NaturalJem

    Oh please DL Hughley SHUT UP, both you and everyone else who has an issue with the President’s belief. Don’t go quoting scriptures that you know nothing about, understand the Bible in it’s entirety before picking and choosing what you want!!!

    • emm

      Hmm pretty sure thats what he told the president of Chick-Fil-A to do too dear

      • NaturalJem

        In regards to topics on homosexuality, marriage between a man and a woman, and other various sins, the Holy Bible is clear as day in many of its scriptures no arguments should be made against that…..period!!!!!

        • bits

          lol! there is nothing clear as day about a book that has missing chapters and full of discrepancies and crazy stories like talking snakes. Marriage, at its inception, had nothing to do with religion. why has no one researched this. Marriage, in its infancy, was designed for the protection class/status/money for the wealthy.

          • guest

            true, which in western society has still always been between man and woman.

            • bits

              true which is why change is always so wonderful and very much inevitable.

              • guest

                change isn’t always wonderful , but I agree it is inevitable.

                • bits

                  with the issue at hand it is wonderful.

                  • guest

                    Well, you stated no facts ,that’s simply your opinion so I can’t argue with you on that, all I can say is that I disagree.

                    • bits

                      the fact is that we are talking about people who just want the same civil right to marry as other people have. why is it so bad for two people (consenting adults) who love each other to document their love in the same way that “straight” citizens do?

                    • guest

                      Well im not going to get into the exact details of why it might be wrong or right from a moral standpoint, as that is complicated and doesn’t really have one solid answer, but if your grievance is just about documentation what’s wrong with civil unions? Honestly, in this gay marriage debate I think a lot people take issue with the term “marriage” to label gay unions than anything, because whether the idea of marriage was an inherently religious one or not, the way the practice is thought of today is with out a doubt heavily religious, and has been for centuries now. I’ve even heard the argument that government should only recognize the legality of unions for everyone, which means gay, straight, polygamist( as your argument would have to apply to them as well), and not even give any legality to the term marriage. “Marriage” would be left to one’s perspective religions.

                    • So

                      Yes, we are no longer allowed to give different names to different things. Men and women are different. Therefore, the relationship between a man and a woman is different from the relationship between a man and man or woman and woman.

                      I think everyone should start calling a ‘hand’ a ‘foot’. Both are appendages at the end of a limb, so they should be called the same thing.

                    • bits

                      and i’m sure you know this because you have had relationships with people of your same sex and you’ve actually lived what you are talking about. #not

          • Anonymous

            It’s obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. The Bible is one of the oldest book. It’s been used for several ways. No book is more consistent and connected to what is going on in the world. Apart from its biblical purpose, it’s been used to trace down so many historical facts. Rich/poor, illiterate/literate, etc all marry. It brings family together as one. Societies who don’t practice christianity understand one thing, the proper way is a man and a woman, and that’s the only way to continue a generation.

            • bits

              wrong

        • realadulttalk

          What bible are you reading??? The bible is FULL of contradictions (things written by man tend to be that way)–EVERYONE picks and chooses the things that they see fit for their life.

          • bits

            wow! so TRUE! does belief in christianity wipe away intelligence too because this fact is big as day.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAI4SRENU2A5WKRTELXXYJPDSI Kayla

    “On what grounds are you picking and choosing which edicts to follow?” Very interesting point. I would love an answer to that.

    • bits

      sorry to say but as usual none of the people who do the picking and choosing have an answer for you. mostly because there is no logical answer.

      • So

        Well, I can answer. Christians certainly acknowledge the Old Testament as the Word of God but Christianity is defined by the New Testament of the Bible. The prohibitions against homosexual behavior exist in BOTH the Old Testament and the New Testament. However, many prohibitions that people reference in these arguments, such as Leviticus 17:14, pork, fabrics, etc., are no longer prohibited in the New Testament. Simply put, some rules changed in the salvation narrative and some did not. Logical enough?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1564967486 Francena McGirt

          Certainly convenient enough. *shrug*

          • victoria

            It’s called the new covenant. It has nothing to do with convenience.

            • bits

              its called craziness it has nothing to do with anything.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JAI4SRENU2A5WKRTELXXYJPDSI Kayla

          There are also alot of things the new testament prohibits as well, but I don’t hear a peep from Christians. I can sleep with 20 married men, pray for forgiveness and be at church next sunday, but the minute I kiss a woman all heck breaks loose. The reason is s3x before marriage isn’t mentioned is because it’s something you benfit from (who doesn’t love s3x). But the minute gay people are even mentioned, then Christians are foaming at the mouth, claiming gay people are shoving their beliefs down their throat. Interestingly enough fornication, drunkenness, idolatry,violence. etc.. all of which is in the new testament is also “shoved down our throats” through the media, all the time (how many times have you seen a movie where the main couple has s3x and aren’t married)… But no peep, I wonder why

          • bits

            love this! and thank you!

  • Hey

    Like seriously, what happened to free speech and individuality. So no one can have a differing opinion to a ‘loud’ group?! The guy is a christian, he via is personal opinion based on his belief. He does not discriminate in hiring or on which customer to serve; so what’s the problem here. He is not even promoting hate or anything like that. I honestly refuse to be bullied!!!

    • DeVanneJuiceeJeniceChinn

      it sucks when u give an answer to a question you’re asked, only to be beat over the head with your answer. it was an answer, not him bashing or supporting gay marriage. just like if you agree with gay marriage, you’re instantly a supporter. “No, i said i agree y’all should be allowed to get divorced too. NEVER said i agree with homosexuality”… this is a topic i really wish we could all agree to disagree and move on.

    • ally

      I’m all for free speech but there is a difference between having you’re own opinions & even recording them openly & donating millions on behalf of your company, not from personal wealth to infringe I someone elses rights. Huge difference. pointing that out is not bullying, I’m always superuser when I hear people I know equating the opposition religious persecutors. & does anyone honestly think the ethics of this company don’t need to be examined over something like that. Its hard to identify discrimination in hiring but seriously? Are we going for this?

      • Kx

        Everyone has a right to believe what they want and donate to those organization who shares their beliefs. Pro-gay organization constantly donate to those who share there beliefs and support their cause. Are you really saying that those who disagree with you or or a Christian man like the chick-fil-a CEO shouldn’t have that same right? are you not trying infringe on his rights at that point.Are we really going for the idea that donating to christian groups now means you’re donating hate groups??? seriously.please

        • http://www.facebook.com/brandon.hallme Brandon Hall

          And people have a right to be outraged about your opinion and not support your opinion which could cost you money. If the group is Anti-anything…it is against that group (hateful). People are doing horribly at paying semantics. People have all sorts of opinions but they know when to close their mouths. This is what happened when you are public figure and don’t know the words, “no comment”.

          • ally

            I agree, gays have a right not to eat there, be mad, and not support chick-fil-a ,but thats about it. intimidating the company and saying they can’t go to certain cities, is wrong, intolerant, and unconstitutional.Gays being mad at chick-fil-a didn’t do much for them, the gay community lost the chick-fil-a battle horribly. Chick -fil-a made a crap load of money from people supporting there side, and gay people just looked like intolerant bullies.
            just like you said people need to know when to close their mouths, the gay activists need to know which battles to fight. This was not one of them.

          • victoria

            No, anti anything is not hate. You know that. Im sure you are not for every single position – Im sure you dont support every viewpoint or cause.

        • CHRISTY

          GREAT POINT!!

      • ally

        even if he wasn’t donating millions, and just stated his opinion, the gay mafia would have still gone after him. and you know this to be true.

    • http://www.facebook.com/brandon.hallme Brandon Hall

      It’s when you pick and choose what Christian ideologies that you want to follow and support that there becomes a problem. i believe when Jesus dies for our sins that a new covenant was created. But people pick and choose what archaic ideologies to follow SMH. And Jesus never judged anyone, a prostitute became one of HIS close confidants . He can’t ask someone there sexual orientation or discriminate because of it, so that point is mute. Plus he doesn’t personally hire all his stores staff, so he would have little control over who was being hired. He was asked the question in the interview because they knew he was contributing to Anti-gay (hate) groups. Which mean as a gay person when you patronize his establishment, you are inevitably supporting those groups yourself. He didn’t even think of those gay employees before being so proud of himself. Black people and the way they defend and support hate, is repulsive at times.

      • ally

        are you not picking and choosing yourself when you ignore what the bible says about homosexuality, and say gay is “ok”, even though you know your christian beliefs dictate that its not. Sorry, but i dont think not supporting gay marriage means you hate gays, and neither does donating to christian groups. I don’t support vegetarian causes because i love meat and I believe people should eat meat, and I can assure you I don’t hate vegetarianism, nor am i anti-vegetarian.

        • victoria

          Great point.

      • Daisy

        I am black christian and I support gay marriage and actually don’t think being gay is a sin so STOP painting with a broad brush. Not everybody against gay marriage is white as you already know and its not always out of hate just a a matter of diff. beliefs. I agree Jesus is love and I wish we would focus on that message more.

        • Anonymous

          Well, you need to reevaluate your christian relationship with God, that’s if you have one. Not surprise, bcos many black churches are in support of homosexuality, bishops, pastors, choir member, etc are involved in it. This is not about white vs black, it’s about what Jesus says. Jesus is love, and also a JUDGE, don’t get it twisted now.

  • Smara

    Good God, MN, give it a rest.
    The president of Chick-Fil-A isn’t a member of Westboro Baptist Church. He expressed a belief of his, he didn’t call for the mass murder of all gays.
    Seriously, let it go

    • http://www.facebook.com/EstherHaldane Esther Haldane

      Please realize that this is not MN stirring up something. It has become a major topic because they tried to open a store in Boston in the gay area & that started the discussion. Then the gay area Decatur GA refused to support Chik-Fil-A & it became a nation-wide issue.

  • Lola

    So now straight people are trying to bully everyone into believing in gay marriage? Wow, I guess you can only have an opinion when it’s popular huh? DL, please have a seat.

    • NaturalJem

      Lol…….Down Low Hughley probably ain’t “straight”

      • Sheena

        Thank you!!!

      • Anonymous

        D.L Hughley is not someone to take seriously. A lot of things is wrong with that brotha. He needs to take several seats and look at his own life.

    • Candacey Doris

      He’s not bullying anyone. He even says, they have a right to their free speech, but it’s an intolerant view. And it is.

      • So

        And he’s intolerant of Christian views, so we’re even.

        • realadulttalk

          Not really–many Christians do not hold those beliefs. While the bible may discuss homosexuality—it also tell you to love thy neighbor. Do you not think it contradictory that you cannot love thy gay neighbor?? I sure do.

          • status quo

            I think I’ll stick to doing what I know best- leaving the judging to Yaweh. Who the heck are we to say who should be with who-that’s not up to us.

            • So

              But at least Christians are expected to follow Jesus’ teachings of who should be with whom, including His definition of marriage:

              Mark 10:6-9

              “But from the beginning of creation he made them male and female.

              This is why a man leaves his father and mother,

              and the two become one flesh. They are no longer two,
              therefore, but one flesh.

              So then, what God has united, human beings must not divide.”

              • Candacey Doris

                I don’t see anything saying “burn the gays” there. That actually comes off as negative towards divorce.