No Thank You: Why I Find Church Invitations To Be Rude

August 5th, 2012 - By Valerie J Charles

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I am a practicing Catholic. As a black woman in Protestant America, this has not always been the easiest denomination to be affiliated with. The scent of incense wafting through a gothic-styled church, the embracing of the Holy Sacraments, the sacredness of the Blessed Virgin  — these are the facets I am used to in worshiping God and I enjoy them. I know for many who are reading this, these terms might be unfamiliar or even disturbing. And I’m pretty sure some of you are ready to leave your pastor’s name and address for me to get “right for the Lord.” Please…save your keystrokes.

If it is one thing I absolutely abhor is people assuming that I am not on a God-blessed path, and need to leave my views and church behind to join theirs. As well-intended they may be, nothing makes my skin crawl more than hearing “I would like for you to come visit my church this Sunday”. No thanks. I’ve been hearing this line and similar ones since I was 9. I find such attempts to dissuade me from my faith and beliefs to be rude and hurtful.

As adults, we have the right to choose to join whichever faith or religious/non-religious path we feel called to. Just as I am comfortable being affiliated with my Christian denomination, I know friends who are just as relaxed in being agnostics and non-believers. No adult needs to be shown any “light”. The thing with faith is that its so subjective that a person cannot be forced to feel what they simply cannot. If I find that I find it uncomfortable trying to worship God in a church or within a faith that doesn’t match my views or standards, it is not a criticism on the person who invited me to their church or the church/denomination itself. This feeling is mine, and mine alone, and I am free and entitled to experience it.

If I had to find a contender to contest how much I detest the “come to my church” phrase, it has to be “you need a church to give you the real word of the Lord”. Oh? I guess the priest and church members have been talking about Oprah’s book club selection instead of the chapters of the Bible. Just as it would be completely out of bounds for those of us of faith to consider non-believers to be “evil” or “out of it” (as I regretfully have heard many refer to them), it is of bad taste to believe my status of being a Christian any lower than yours because I am not a member of your sect. As someone who has studied and continues to study the history of the Church, I believe that every religious sect has come from a group of people who are desperately trying to get back to the Source (God, the Universe, etc.) Therefore, there is no barometer to measure one groups’ belief against, and it is preposterous to act as if one exists.

And, of course, we have the priest scandals. People love to throw this in my face after I have respectfully turned down their invitation. To this I say, I don’t think there is a practicing Catholic (and studies prove this) who have stood with the monsters who have committed these atrocious attacks. As someone who has suffered from sexual abuse (not from a priest, mind you) and as a humanist, I feel insulted that my loyalty to my faith is somehow tied to this belief system. As there are students at Penn State who love their school, but angrily denounce the actions of Sandusky; I denounce the actions of few and hold firm to my beliefs as a Catholic.

Respect is a word that so few know the definition of. Respecting someone’s beliefs means that you do not encroach on them, forcing yourself upon them like an alligator wrestler trying to beat the person into what you believe is submission. It means that if you have questions, you ask them with grace. You listen intently to the answers provided, and if you find yourself disagreeing, you do so kindly. Trust me, its not hard.

 

 

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  • The Unbeliever

    I don’t know. Sounds like the OP is overly sensitive. It’s quite common where I come from for religious people to invite each other to their respective churches. Sure, sometimes the intention is to try to convert the invitee, but most times, it’s just an innocent invitation. Some people are simply proud of their particular church and want to share it with others. There’s an assumption among many religious people that even if they don’t share the same faith, they believe in the same god, more or less.

    I suspect that the OP’s sensitivity may be related to the priest scandal. Maybe she feels guilty for continuing to support the organization which supported, assisted, and concealed those monsters who raped children.

    As for Sandusky, Penn State cleaned house. Heads rolled and will continue to roll. Sanctions aimed at the football team will pretty much destroy it for the foreseeable future. That’s a big deal for a university to cut the legs out from under one of its biggest money-makers.

    Haven’t seen anything equivalent from the catholic church. Doubt I ever will. I’d feel guilty too if I continued to give such an organization my time, my money, and my allegiance.

  • racheldachel

    I find it rude that Madame Noire doesn’t proof or edit these “articles.”

    And as for receiving an invitation, like many others said: A POLITE invitation is never rude. There is no lecture, inquisition or criticism required in order to extend a sincere invitation; nor is it rude to politely decline one.

  • Gimmeabreak78

    With all due respect to the author, and as a fellow Catholic (I was raised that way, anyway), there is absolutely nothing wrong with a person extending you an invitation anywhere. An invitation denotes that someone wants your presence there, whether it’s a barbecue, a bar-mitzvah or Sunday church services. I think you are being a little hypersensitive here. What is rude, however, is when someone tries to force his religious beliefs upon you, and I’m sorry it takes more than a church invitation for a person to be guilty of that.

  • Angie

    Unfortunately I disagree with the statement that ”
    No adult needs to be shown any “light”. The King James version of the bible states that we are to minister to the people. There are a lot of adults and children who perish because we are not about our fathers business.

    To my understanding visiting someones church is not necessarily about persuading you to change your faith, it’s about simple fellowship. I enjoy meeting new people and seeing how others worship our god (one god). If they are serving a different god than me, that’s different. But fellowship among Christians, whether its catholic, pentecostal, baptist, etc it’s all good for me. It’s about friendship and fellowship. Visiting other churches never makes me feel like I need to leave my current church home.

  • PR

    How is inviting someone to worship with you being rude ? Saying “hey you should come to my church sometimes” is harmless. Its not the same as saying “hey you’re going to hell”. I am a Christian and God most def does NOT want us telling people “if you dont go to church you’re going to hell”. Thats totally false. First of all church doesnt save people Jesus does. Anyway all we(christians) are supposed to do is be living epistles. Its supposed to show in our walk. And spread the word. NOT shove in down your throat and condemn you.

    Inviting someone to church isn’t rude. Anyway you should realize something is off if your friend is talking more about a building(church) instead of Salvation.

  • chinlahdin

    You don’t have “faith” in your own faith. This is why “attempts to dissuade…” hurt so bad…Dwell on that for a bit.

    And this is not a diss, it happens to all of us

  • Anna Madrigal

    I don’t mind if someone asks me to visit her/his place of worship/spirituality. If I say no, however, I don’t expect a repeat offer, and this is where I have problems with christians of all denominations. I am not christian, and I say no, and you’re going to come at me again? smh!

  • misslady84

    I’m nondenomination as well I dont care about denominations If we all Love “Jesus Christ” It should not matter what you are!!! who came up with this Catholic, Baptist,Lutheran and etc stuff!!! Whats the difference is it the way we pray, sing and serve the lord? All I know is you LOVE JESUS CHRIST the APLHA and OMEGA Then You are alright with me!!!!

    • Childfree Diva

      WOW! Shout it from the rooftops, eh? So, I guess us agnostics and atheists are not alright with you? :/

  • Nisa

    Not sure this article is just about being invited to church. Sounds more like the author is tired of being challenged about her personal religious choice and having to defend it to those she has encountered. Nothing wrong with inviting anyone to church. @CarlaKah…there is an absolute truth that almost all religions have…there is a higher power of creation. That power may have a different name, following, traditions and practices but basically every religion is based on that one absolute fact. Be offended by someone being offensive against your beliefs. While you may not agree, if it is a friend or someone that cares, even if you don’t believe in their God(s), believe that the person cared enough to want to try to save you (in their eyes). Should not be that big of an issue if you truly have love for your neighbor and not judge them as they may judge you! Pray for them as they will pray for you and keep it movin!

  • real rap

    while i disagree with forcing ones belief upon another, please allow me to take ur advise and RESPECTFULLY ask a few questions…if the Bible is ur Holy Book as a catholic and is believed 2 b the Word of GOD than y can the words of the pope supercede it when he sits ex cathedre. why r catholics taught 2 pray 2 mary 4 salvation who then will carry ur petition 2 the Savior when that process cannot b found anywhere in the Bible. y is mary called ‘the queen of heaven’ when the Bible repeatedly refers 2 that person as a pagan deity. lastly, where in the Bible does it say that repeating so many hail marys will absolve u of or pay 4 ur sins.

    • CarlaKah

      Ugh @real rap, the bible doesn’t allow you to eat shrimps or a cheeseburger either what’s your point.

    • http://twitter.com/Cognorati001 Colette Marcheline

      Your questions weren’t respectful so don’t pretend.

  • 1micmcna1

    I’m sorry but this article I had to comment on and this will probably be my most abrasive return, but you are sadly misinformed on a lot of things. First off, the fact that you say that religions can’t or shouldn’t be compared against each other (or something to that effect as there seems to be a typo–not being a grammar stickler just not trying to put words in your mouth) or that they can’t be measured against a barometer is theology 101. All religions are measured against each other in multiple facets that can both be proven empirically and not proven (as in is there a heaven). The whole thing of religion and belief systems are that there is one absolute truth and that each religion is measured on as to how closely they come to that truth. Second, I can understand if the people inviting you are constantly saying how Catholicism is bad and yadda, yadda. But the fact that you have now come to the conclusion that all people who invite you to other churches are doing this undermines the possibility that they could just want to share in worshipping with you. Your big fallacy here is that you (like most modern day christians) assert that this faith is a singular thing, when Christianity, and Judaism have the duality of being both communal and personal. By trying to separate the two in any facet means you either aren’t understanding of the principles or you simply don’t care. Christianity was always supposed to be Evangelical–seeking to spread the word to all AND the NT was structured the way it was to speak of how Paul, and the others knew that each church needed to keep checks and balances on themselves as well as their other church brethren. Of course we don’t do that now. Instead we talk about how we think it’s rude to have any sort of unity within the same religion.

    • CarlaKah

      There is not one absolute truth of religions because, in order for that to be true you need one commonly accepted view about what this absolute truth is when it comes to religion. Absolute truth means that it can absolutely be proven by different people from different backgrounds that this view is the truth. Proven with facts, which is impossible. So your claim that you can “measure” a religion to a certain truth is false. Your belief/religion is a choice made based on your background and own views. Most people who consider themselves religious, share the same beliefs as their parents which shows that most of the time the choice to believe in anything you please, often isn’t used by individuals who have been raised to believe in a certain type of religion. I read a lot of judgements in between the lines of your comments, that the author of this article actually has touched upon. You chose to believe that Evangelism is the “way christianity was supposed to be”. By stating this you are saying that any other type of christianity (including Catholicism which is the type of chirstianity that the author believes in) is not the right way or to emphasize in your own words “the way christianity was supposed to be”. Anything else than Evangelism isn’t close enough to the “absolute truth”, right? This is a perfect example of how insulting it can be to be invited to church if you already have your own views and have made them clear. The author doesn’t have a problem with the diversity of religions on earth, she simply states that she respects everyone elses and expects the same level of respect in return. You obviously don’t realize that you’re not doing that. Can you understand that religion is your version of your truth? That religion is very personal and therefor cannot be measured in the way you describe it? That we all have our own mind, dna and spirit and that they are connected to our feeling sthus intertwined with our religious experiences? Or is everyone just wrong until they at least give Evangelism a chance? Open your mind up please and realize that just as convinced you are of your religious choice, someone else can be about the opposite. It’s called thinking and it isn’t illegal yet.

  • Miss D

    It depends on why someone is being invited. If someone is being invited with the motive of converting them to their faith, that is inconsiderate. It has to be a personal choice. Otherwise, they may just want to bring them along as a guest. I am not religious but I don’t mind visiting family member’s/friends church from time to time. As long as they respect my beliefs, it’s not a problem.

  • ILOVEmyCatholicfaith

    As a practicing & faithful Roman Catholic, I must say that I agree with the author. While I have been fortunate enough NOT to have ever been on the receiving end of such invitations or silly assumptions(to my face), I realize that there are a lot of horrible misconceptions about my faith.

    I find it funny that the people that invited the author to church said she needs to get “Right for the Lord.” If only those people realized that the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ Himself…

    May God continue to lead and guide His Church and its people from now until the end of time, AMEN!!

  • Star1

    How can a person successfully navigate this world when he/she is so easily offended over something as basic as a church invitation. Seriously???????? People really need to go to Iraq or Sudan where there are people living with serious problems, then you find out what kinds of problems to complain about.

  • GeekMommaRants

    This is what Christianity has come to. It’s a corporate competition now, who is more committed to biblical purity than who shines their faith to the world. The shining part is whats gone.

  • http://twitter.com/MsEdwardsToYou Kenya Stephanie ♏

    AS another black, practicing Catholic I totally agree with you. People don’t seem to understand that why we may worship the same God, we such such differently.

  • Guest

    I used to be Catholic and they go against alot of things in the Bible itself. Like, Idol worshiping, having an image of Christ, bowing down to statues and crosses…Most depict Jesus as being white.. Worshiping the Pope as if he is the second coming or smtg, Going to Church on Sunday which is worshiping the Sun God (the Sabbath is on Saturday) and most don’t even realize that Jesus was hung from a tree; He didn’t die on a cross LOL Read your bible people, instead of absorbing every lie most pastors tell you. Notice that most Churches go over the same things again and again..following Yaweh isn’t supposed to be a religion but a path of truth.. notice, Yeshua never talked about Christianity in the bible; As long as you are following the Word, Accepting him as God’s son…and praising him on the Sabbath you can pave a way to heaven. As long as people are gathered in his name, he shall be among them.

    • its_MYopinion

      The Bible does mention Him being hung from a tree, but I don’t think it literally means that…

      A cross is made from wood and wood comes from trees…so therefore in that sense He was hung from a tree.

  • Childfree Diva

    A woman did that to my husband and I when we were waiting backstage at a concert. I mean, REALLY? We’re there to have fun and enjoy the entertainer, not be “schooled on the ‘word of God’” and to be handed out business cards for your church. What was even funnier was that we were visiting from out of town and didn’t even live in that state! I’m agnostic anyway, and don’t really care, but I wasn’t rude to the lady who gave me the card. I just threw the card away after I left the venue. It’s as bad as JWs coming to your door, on your personal property trying to shove their religion in your face. I know – I used to be affiliated with JWs, and I hated doing that door-to-door proselytizing. No, thank you!

  • http://twitter.com/mslorrim Lorri M. Key

    I have visited different churches with friends to learn more about what they believe. It’s something that shows respect for the persons’ faith and traditions. I have invited people to church but it’s up them to choose what they believe or don’t. Nothing wrong with it as long as your motive is right.

  • MeMe

    oh my this reminds me of the people who always ask if you have accepted Jesus as you lord and saviour in your heart. I thought that’s what being a CHRISTian meant…

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