And They Say Only Black Women are Bitter? Why Bitter Black Men Need To Have a Seat…Several

July 2nd, 2012 - By Charing Ball

Attention bitter black men:

Please have a seat somewhere, preferably, *in my DMX voice* in the cut, where the woods at.

Sincerely,

The black community.

Yeah, I’m going to get right to it because I’m really short on time. No, I don’t have any place to be in particular, but I really don’t have the time anymore to deal with the bad attitudes and vibes of the dudes online. Yeah, I said it. Some of y’all menfolk really have some messed up attitudes. And while I in no way consider myself an expert on the emotional issues related to the XY chromosome, I have become the reluctant recipient of the mental assault unleashed by these unhappy individuals.

Let me take it back a bit to share with you all where exactly my angst comes from. Over the past, I say year or so, my Facebook news feed has been flooded with sexist and derogatory images about women, particularly black women. It all started with the animated videos of the men discussing what’s wrong with professional black women. And then it blossomed to almost weekly b***hery via comic strips, status updates and external links about everything these men perceive to be wrong with black women.

One widely circulated comic strip, which was made famous by its inclusion on Kevin Hart’s fan page, is of a guy being rejected by a group of women in high school for being a nerd and years later seeking his revenge on these same women by being a successful man, who is now out of their league. The caption to this particular strip said “A Strong Black Woman Doesn’t Mean You have an Attitude.” I don’t know what being a strong woman has to do with not liking nerds in high school but the message seemed to resonate with many men because it showed up on the pages of half of my friend’s list.

And then recently, like last week, I saw another anti-black woman comic strip being passed around, this time comparing black women in the ’70s with the modern black woman. In the picture, an afro-wearing woman is bestowed with values of her love of God, knowing how to cook and clean and being submissive to her man, all of which are suppose to be good. Whereas, the picture of the woman from 2009, who ironically rocks a blonde weave, doesn’t cook or clean, is shallow, strong and independent. Of course, these virtues are considered bad. The caption is the kicker for me: “Freedom from Mental Slavery.”

Wait, what? Talk about romanticizing a history that never was. Obviously they never heard of Elaine Brown or Angela Davis, two women with big Afros who would never include submission and dependency into their vocabulary. The whole thing is reminiscent of the episode of “Married with Children” when Al Bundy, pissed that some women were encroaching on his bowling night, created the “National Organization of Men Against Amazonian Master hood” or NO MA’AM. Yet this is no sitcom and the bitter black men are for real and everywhere.

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  • vjs4

    Thank you for addressing this issue. I’ve also noticed it; especially on the Tom Joyner Morning Show. J Anthony Brown is notorious for putting down black women. Tom Joyner seems to enjoy the bashing (I guess since he’s getting a divorce from his wife). Black men are free to love who they want but, don’t bash and try and hurt black women. If something bad goes down black women are the first women they (black men) look to for support…I say, tell them to kiss our black asses! LOL

    • TragicArrangements

      Really!? I am glad that I don’t listen to that show. Never ever had the desire to. it just seems like a bunch of foolishness anyway.

  • Darren

    Please…

    The reality is that a large portion of black women (educated and uneducated) are attracted to THUGS, BALLERS, or what other races of women would describe as UNDESIRABLE men. As a race we can no longer deny that traits seen as undesirable in other groups of men (i.e. hypermasculinity and hypersexuality,) are promoted as keys to manhood in the black community. And the biggest supporters of these risky behaviors is Black Women.

    One black women start choosing the right men, you will start to see a decrease in the number of bitter black men.

    • Mrsadkiah

      So we have to start choosing better men and because we don’t the bitter Black men (who I’m assuming you’re saying are good men)….Black men don’t have to take any responsibility for being the srubs you described? Oh. Ok

  • Ifuaskme2

    LOL. So basically, in the second comic, the ‘new’ black woman is a black man in a wig. :)

  • The Rain

    Give me a break.You people are just mad that men are finally voicing their honest observation of you.You have been getting away with bad behavior so long,because too many men were raised by an overbearing ,emotionally and hormone imbalanced mother that have broken their spirit and have them afraid of women.Well,my mother taught me to respect women,but have standards and conditions.She and my grandmother set standards that made it easy to find a good black wife and mother of my children.Bitter is a relative term with Yall.I have been called bitter because I didn’t want to deal with an ex girl friend that was too good for me when I was struggling ,but she wanted me after a few hundred thousand miles on the odometer,three or more children,50 or more LBs in the wrong places on the body,and the looks started to fade.

  • http://www.StephanSpeaks.com/ Stephan Labossiere

    the article makes great points. There really is bitterness in many black men and black women. We just need to get to a point where we are all willing to hold ourselves accountable for how we can be better as individuals. We have to stop giving power to everybody that did us wrong and accept that it is on us to take a positive approach or dwell in the negativity that we choose to hold on to. We just need to forgive, heal, be receptive to the input that can help make us better men and women. I hope that day comes for everybody.

    • Seems a little “funny”

      Kudos to you, if only everyone thought like this especially the rest of the men.

  • lechar

    I love this article speak sista preach

  • Jay

    These bitter black men kill me, they need to sit down and enjoy a nice warm glass of STFU with a side order of go to hell.

  • Nope

    Any wise man knows that you can’t win an arguement with a woman, especially not online. Doesn’t matter if you’re arguing about what day of the week it is. But even online, women will resort to their typical tactic of being the loudest or having the wittiest comeback for crowd pleasing instead of using logic and then crying about things later on. I mean, women don’t even like one another and have decades of practice arguing one another, so why should a wise man think he would gain any ground in that same area?

    • Mrsadkiah

      Saying that you won’t WIN an argument implies that you can’t come up with a good rebuttal to someones statement. Meaning you’re wrong, lack evidence etc. This is a cop out. You’re not “winning” anything here because we as Black women know that these hoochies in this comic do not represent us and the BBM who degrade and demean us with their base-less and childish speech need to be told about themselves.

    • Why?

      Okaaaay so why did you even comment then? I don’t know about the rest of these women but I won’t lose any sleep over losing an argument to a man on the internet and I definitely will not cry lol, you’re funny.

  • gmarie

    …as they typically say “stop making bad choices” in the women you date/chase/encounter..

  • Jameion B. Fowler

    First of all thank you for your post, but I think it goes without saying that the black community is varied in attitudes and opinions, so I hardly think that you are speaking for the entirety of the black community. Second, this response is not to be adversarial or confrontational, but I do want to add some perspective (at least my perspective) to your post. I normally do not respond to posts in general, but I feel that it is necessary based on some of your contentions. First of all, you go into a discussion about two pictures that were posted on Facebook. The first is about “a guy being rejected by a group of women in high school for being a nerd and years later seeking his revenge on these same women by being a successful man, who is now out of their league.” You act as if this has never happened ever in the history of human life! This happens all the time and all races and both genders. I do not understand how this is reflective of “bitter” black men (or black women for that matter). I was a nerd in high school and I am proud to admit that I still am and always will be. I hold no ill will toward the women who have rejected me, because I realized then what I realize now (and what I think the comic strip suggests) and that is that high school is not the highlight of my life, it is just a stepping stone. I went off to college, got to travel the world and saw things many will never have the opportunity to see. I have had girlfriends; have experienced heartache and happiness alike. Through it all, I’m stronger because of it. Some of the women who have rejected me are still back home with a gang of kids and are regretful about how they viewed the world and how their lives have turned out because of that view. Some of these women are successful and married and happy. I think this is also reflective of (and what I also believe the comic strip creator was trying to suggest) is that there are a lot of black woman who have the absolute wrong idea about what good values are in a man. I read through it and I don’t think it suggests that ALL black women think this way, nor do I believe that all black women think this way, but a lot of them do. Just like I think there are a lot of black men who think that the measure of a good woman is how big her breast and bottom are or how light her skin is. Most black men are more open minded than this. Just like most black women are more open minded about how they view their male counterparts.
    The second picture compares “black women in the ’70s with the modern black woman. In the picture, an afro-wearing woman is bestowed with values of her love of God, knowing how to cook and clean and being submissive to her man, all of which are supposed to be good. Whereas, the picture of the woman from 2009, who ironically rocks a blonde weave, doesn’t cook or clean, is shallow, strong and independent. Of course, these virtues are considered bad.” Again I am perplexed because I not understanding the connection between the picture and “bitter” black men, especially if the picture is speaking the truth. There is an old say that goes “men are have the men their father were.” This is very true. It seems that the men of our past had more wherewithal, ingenuity, were harder working and more resourceful. With that being said, I also believe the same about women being “half the women their mothers were.” Women did value a “love of God” and “knowing how to cook and clean,” and more so than they do now. Respectfully, your interpretation of this picture is either misguided, misleading or both. First of all, are you suggesting that, knowing how to cook and clean and having a love of God and being submissive to your husband is a bad thing? Black women don’t hold to these values as much as they did back then. It is a sad fact that both black men and women have become lazier with time whether its physically, mentally, emotionally, culturally or spiritually. Second, you conveniently, left out the fact that a woman “has more power” being submissive to her husband. What does this mean? Well let me explain by using the very examples you cited in explaining the “flaws” of this picture with Elaine Brown and Angela Davis. You are taking their roles in regard to the relationship to the men close to them completely out of context in hopes that your audience would be so blinded by their own inner-rage that they would not see the flaw in this example. You were wrong. Elaine Brown and Angela Davis were strong and independent women, however, they were also supportive of the men of the Black Panther Movement; a movement started by black men and was aimed at bringing about positive change to the black community. Not to say that there was not gender bias in the movement nor to say that these and other women in the movement were not leaders in their own right, because this is all true. However, they loved, supported and care for their black men were willing to fight and die side by side with them because of what these men believed in and, in turn, what they themselves believed in. Also, and I think this is the most pivotal point, they allowed the man to take his place as just that, The man! They knew that it is the Black man who is (or should be) the first line of defense for justice and opportunity among the black masses. As black men (in the African tradition of manhood) it is our responsibility to fight and to die to support and protect the women, children and elders from fear, exploitation and annihilation. These women understood this and because they understood this and acted in such a way, it set a fire under the movement! This is where their power came from. A word of advice to you and your audience: If there are black men willing and able to step and take charge and do the right thing by the race, let them. There is such a tendency among black people to believe that black men can do no right. So much so that the ones who do wish to do right often get overlooked and are not trusted. Women cannot do it all by themselves, no matter how much they have convinced themselves otherwise. Something somewhere will go lacking. It is up to black men and women to work together to fill those voids. But I digress. Let’s go back to your post. You then go on to discuss how black men are angrily posting videos on youtube about how “oppressive” black women are and how they treat these men so badly. I noticed that you described these videos and blogs in plurals. The reason I bring that up is because either one of two things (or perhaps both) are happening at this point in your post: One, your over-exaggerating or, two, you have made it your business to go out of your way to take time out of your life to sit and view multiple numbers of these videos and blogs that essentially say the same thing over and over again. I know this because I have viewed some of this videos myself and QUICKLY realized that these are guys who are either blowing off steam or have their minds made up that this is have they will always feel about black women, regardless of what anyone does to prove otherwise. In either case, my question to you is simple: Why are you choosing to subject yourself to this nonsense so much so that you feel that you had to respond to it in a posting? I know that this is nonsense and you know that it is nonsense, so why waste your time with it? These postings don’t just pop up in your search engine and your finger slips and falls on the mouse button. You’re going out of your way to search for these postings. To prove what? That some black men fill a certain way about some black women? What do you get out of viewing this stuff? If you know it doesn’t apply to you, then why bother to view and why bother to respond?
    To the overall “bitterness” charge; I guess that it is safe to say that we ALL have been bitter about something or another at some point in our lives. It’s not specific just black men or black women. You then conflate the idea with women not responding to men “hollering at you from the passenger side of their man’s jeep.” I live in an area where a lot of that is going on and I usually see these men moving on to the next woman unfortunate enough to be walking in their sites, they usually don’t rush directly home to their “mother’s basement” to blog about the experience. You further go into the “bitterness” charge by mentioning, quite condescendingly, I might add, that the root of their bitterness involves “whatever mommy, ex-wife or baby mom issues” they may have. So now you’re a psychotherapist? What statistics are you referencing and where can I find them? What research have you done to prove this point and where is that posted? You’ll probably respond to those questions by saying that you are basing this stuff on your own experiences. Well let me ask you this then: Have you been with or around every black man walking the face of the planet earth? There are a lot of us around. How can you know how we all feel? I say all that to say this: The “you’re just bitter” response is an easy cop out answer to a far more complex issue. Both genders use it and it is getting old and doesn’t solve anything. And if somehow, this is an issues (and I’m sure it is in some cases), then who the hell are you to throw it up in their faces so arrogantly. As a social worker, I realize that you don’t make a lot of progress by talking “at” people as opposed to talking “to” them. If you truly feel that these are serious issues, then this post should be about encouragement and understanding and love instead of being condescending and disrespectful.
    I think the question that should be answered is why there are so many black men at odds with so many black women and vice versa. Don’t get me wrong. There is a lot for black women to be upset with black men over: mass incarceration, an influx of single mother homes and an overall disintegration of black manhood. On the flipside, there are issues that black women need to account for as well: having babies out of wedlock, being the fastest growing population with HIV/AIDS cases. Now you’re probably thinking that the issues I aforementioned with black women have as much to do with the men in their lives as with the women themselves. This is true. However, doesn’t it take two to tango? The key is not to lay blame, but to ascribe accountability ON BOTH SIDES. Both black men and women need to, for the sake of the race, come together and explain their frustrations and make peace and, most importantly figure out how we can solve our collective and respective problems! We can’t rely on the media, because the media is a part of the problem, if not THE problem itself. Every day we are bombarded with negative images of black men (such as on the rap videos on BET) and black women (such as with the reality shows on VH1). All of this is by design, the one thing this society fears is the black masses united and if their media can portray black men and thugs and criminal and womanizers and black women as being arrogant, loud gold-diggers, that can drive a wedge between the genders. We do not realize that these images are being promoted by men and women who sold their souls and have sold out the masses for money and fame. To hell with everybody and everything else! And we chose believe in this crap! We as black people have a horrible habit of taking what we see and swallowing it whole as if it were the unbiased truth. We never take the time to read between the lines and analyze. We choose to, instead, continue to feed the monster (or at least you do).
    Most substantial op-eds present facts and figures to back up their beliefs and opinions. I read your post up and down and all of what you are saying is based on hypotheticals, generalizations and your own narrow life experiences. It almost seems, based on the tone and language, as if you’re just as angry as the men you are writing about (who also use nothing more than hypotheticals, generalizations and their own narrow life experiences). Please forgive me if my tone seems angry. I am only speaking from my heart. We have to stop this madness and begin to love and support one another for our children’s future and that of our own. With peace, love and blessings, thanks for reading. I welcome all comments and suggestions. Hotep!

    • NOLA Darling

      The big issue is the comfort level Black men have telling Black women what’s wrong with them. Where are the dating/relationship advice books, movies, blogs and articles for Black men telling them what they are doing wrong? There’s the assumption that if a Black man isn’t a high school dropout, and doesn’t have a criminal record or multiple “baby mommas”, that he’s a perfect catch, whereas Black women are viewed as flawed for even the slightest character defect.

      I know single Black guys I went to college with who think nothing of sending a mass mailing or Facebook message to every single Black woman they know (and copying their buddies) when they come across an article discussing the “plight” of single Black women or that offers advice to them on finding a man and having a successful relationship. Yet these same guys never send articles about why Black men aren’t married or unable to maintain positive, monogamous romantic relationships.

    • TragicArrangements

      Damn that was long!! But um, you DON’T have to go out of your way to search for the afro vs. weave photo. I saw that garbage in my Facebook news feed yesterday.

      • Jameion B. Fowler

        It’s called an analysis and although these postings do tend to pop up on facebook (for everyone and not just Black women) its up to us whether or not we dismiss it as nonsense and keep it moving or we take the time to acknowledge it and become angry by it.

  • http://twitter.com/eshowoman Friday Foster

    An sterling example of BBM syndrome. Please get yourself a non-black woman, live in perfect bliss & STFU.

  • Wow

    It appears that black men who were raised solely by women have too many women like ways. Although we hate to admit it, but women are catty and hateful towards other women and anyone they see as a threat. If a boy grows up and all he hears about women (particularly black women) is negativity and hate from those around him, which include those catty and negative women as well as other boys/men raised by these same type of women, they form opinions based on that. Single moms need to be conscious of what they are saying and portraying around their sons. It’s nice to think of having your little man love only his mama but these grown men grow up to be incapable of relating to any black women other than their mama or female family members ( you know black men will be the first to throw shade at black women with the disclaimer that “this doesn’t apply to his mama and sisters, because they are not like typical black women”). We need to stop hating each other b/c our kids are watching us. These grown men are too far gone and eternally lost to keep worrying about, but we have to focus on this generation of black men being raised and we’ve got to do better at presenting a better image of black women to them.

    • Nope

      Nooooo, these Black males are growing up in a vaccuum, I tell ya!

    • Sparkling_Pearl

      ^^^^Spot on! Amen!!

  • Nope

    The only generalization Black women think is true is how all of them are beautiful and strong…..

    • KamJos

      And the bitterness just rolls out. I really want women to open their eyes to all of this.

  • Marc J

    It’s not a copout to say it would take a lot of sociological input to describe why sometimes, but not most of the time, these pictures are accurate but also why there are lots of professionally oriented and educated black women that completely take care of black men. The simple answer, in my opinion, comes down to the fact that there is a lot of dysfunction in the black community and that dysfunction leads to emotional damage and values that are not good for building meaningful relationships. It’s true for a lot of men and women and it is what prevents people from connecting and building something together. And for many of these people, the values celebrated by many parts of the culture, like from some hip hop and rap, don’t cause, but serve to normalize this dysfunction even more. I’m not saying that all people are influenced by music the same way but it certainly does provide the dysfunctional narrative for a lot of people’s lives.

    The sooner we overcome the emotional damage that is the legacy of slavery, the better off we will be.

    • Sparkling_Pearl

      Applause!!!

    • TragicArrangements

      Did the emotional psychological trauma stop once the 13th ammendment was signed or did the Terrorism and trauma of Racism (White Supremacy) continue? Does it still continue today?

      • Marc J

        Of course discrimination and racism still exists at a significant level today, that’s why I said the legacy of slavery and not slavery. I hoped that would be implied but I guess not. However, that is no reason to give power to an idea to rule your life, your community, or your emotional state. Large parts of the black community seem to have thrown in the towel and are resigned to the maladaptive environment that historic discrimination has brought forth. It’s time for a real readjustment in thought to happen at the community level where we rethink our place in America and change our values, on our own, in the face of continuing discrimination. Or we can just go it alone and seek happiness and fulfillment as individuals, letting time run its course.

        At this point I’m fine with both options as I’m tired of the status quo. The legacy of slavery has tainted almost all aspects of black life in America and it’s time to be proactive.

  • Rose Red

    Dude you don’t have jack.
    BM are kings of denial act like everybody in the world wants them, pffft.
    WW don’t want no jailbirds, hiv, absentee dads, etc.

    Unless you got a job you just talking out the side of your neck.

    BM are the lowest men on the totem pole, even Mexicans will go wash dishes to support their family!! BM too proud to support their family would rather get grills and hang on the corner!

    Stop the madness stop the LYING all those nonBlack chicks don’t want yall!

    LOL
    “I don’t want no scrubs…”

    • TragicArrangements

      Black people have denial on lock! And I have seen a significant number of White females with black male convicts and pushing around beige babies who’s fathers are not there. They also deal with HIV positive White men too.. please, let’s stop pretending that White women have such HIGH standards. They don’t have a reputation for chastity. They tend to like the “thug” persona.. so do the White men who like to watch their white wived get run through by black males. It is usually the White female rebel or reject of Whites who want black males.

  • Rose Red

    Yup they get bitter and catty like females, thats how you know they didn’t have a daddy to raise them.

    BM need to face the reality they really mad cause they don’t have a daddy but it’s easy to be a stank misogynist and troll BW!

  • Rose Red

    Hold Church!
    All these BITTER fatherless men (boys) who got coddled by their single mother cause their daddies left them are BITTER online bullies.
    Trashing BW…how many of them are absentee dads?
    Been in jail? Oh, its the wm’s fault.

    The funny thing is they act as those they’re a CATCH as though they could have any woman in the world.
    Deluded! I know lots of white girls and not ONE dates a BM.
    Why? They like FAMILY MEN.

    Bm, seats must be taken! Take a dozen cause yall need a reality check, big time!

  • Ladybug94

    I think only the black men that are actually no good are the ones called no good. If that isn’t you, then you shouldn’t be offended (don’t take on someone else’s baggage) plus there are a lot of black men who have entitlement issues (i.e. with job search etc.) Everyone has problems as well as baggage.

  • Ladybug94

    I just have to point out that they comic strip is flawed. There is no way that the women portrayed in that comic strip are strong black women; just look at how they are dressed and how they talk. Strong black women don’t dress like hoochies and talk like they speak “hood” by Rosetta Stone.

    • Rizz

      Strong black women dress and speak how they want to.

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