Can We Stop the Black Male Bashing…At Least on Father’s Day?

June 14th, 2012 - By Veronica Wells

I remember the first time I learned that people, children specifically, “didn’t have fathers.” My first grade tormentor Derek taught me that lesson. Derek, the bully, the pest, the agitator, who rarely spoke kindly or honestly, told me, matter of factly, that he didn’t have a father. Being that my father has always been a constant physical and emotional presence in my life, I really didn’t understand what he meant by that. How could someone not have a father? I took the question to my mother and she told me, “Everyone has a father. Some people just don’t know their fathers or their fathers aren’t around them that often.” I didn’t fully grasp what “not having a father” might mean to someone but I did sympathize with people like that, even Derek.

Today, I still don’t completely understand but as I’ve gotten older and been around more and more people who know this story, I’ve seen just how hurtful it can be. I’ve been around men who referred to their fathers as “sperm donors.” I’ve known women who sought the love they lacked from their fathers in other unworthy men and I’ve even come across a few people who’ve said not having a father in their lives didn’t affect them one way or the other.

A couple of years ago, I got into a pretty intense debate with an associate who used Father’s Day to broadcast his grievances with black men in general. I was enraged. Sure, there are deadbeat dads in our community, maybe even more than other communities, but don’t attack all black men when there are also numerous examples of black men doing the right thing when it comes to their children.

In recent years I’ve come to realize that my associate wasn’t the only one.

How many of our leaders, black leaders, take the time to celebrate black fathers? How many black clergymen use Father’s Day as another day to bash black men instead of dedicating the day to celebrating the fathers who are taking care of their children? I know the Pastor of my home church hasn’t always celebrated black men on Father’s Day. Not surprisingly, he grew up without a father. Even President Obama, who writes and speaks candidly about his father’s absence, spent a majority of his now famous Father’s Day speech at the Apostolic Church of God in 2008 telling black men to step up.

It wasn’t until later, like earlier today, that I realized that they, my associate, my pastor and even President Obama, were speaking from a place of hurt. They were projecting their experiences, their pain onto the entire community.

And I don’t completely disagree with them. There are some…a lot of black men who do need to step up and have a more effective role in their children’s lives. What I don’t agree with, is the attack on all black men. Society does that everyday of the year. The brothas who are trying and succeeding at being good fathers to their children deserve some recognition. Why can’t they get that on Father’s Day? After all, I don’t see deadbeat or absentee mothers being derided on Mother’s Day. And we all know those women exist…

Since I’m calling for the celebration of good black fathers it’s only right that I take a little time to thank my own father for his guidance, his wisdom, his humor, his provision, his encouragement and his presence. I hope that on Father’s Day and everyday you, and all the fathers like you, receive the recognition you deserve for a [tough] job well done.

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  • FromUR2UB

    I don’t know of any indicators for determinng the type of father a man will be, before he becomes a father. If he works regularly, pays his bills on time and saves some of his money, there’s a CHANCE those attitudes will transfer to children. There’s not even a guarantee for how a man will treat a woman based upon how he treats his mother. So, some lessons are learned through trial and error.

    The one thing I hate when the topic deals specifically with black men or women, is the way the dialogue descends to cat and dog fights between men and women on the site. That’s very draining on the spirit, and nothing gets resolved by it. Getting beaten over the head is not a motivator for most people.

  • Nope

    You mean Bitter Baby Momma Victimization Day? And why must Father’s Day be qualified for the “REAL” fathers? I have never, ever heard that word get used with mothers on Mother’s Day. Hell, the majority of these women weren’t in REAL relationships, and definitely didn’t have a ring or one coming. Yet they act as though a man dragged them at gunpoint into in alley and ‘got them pregnant’. Mother’s Day is in May. Single fathers don’t get shout outs on Mother’s Day. If Father’s Day isn’t applicable in your household then you should just keep it moving like Jews on Christmas. Too many mothers want to gobble up more of the attention by snatching this holiday. They want props for what, being a parent…?

    • Herm

      Some truth for that a** these whiny broads need to grow up and get on some damn birth control

  • Treacle234

    I agree! I can’t bash my father because he raised me. He’s a hard worker and dedicated father.

  • EDW

    Thank you so much, I am going to church this Sunday hoping not for encouragement, but hoping that I will not be criticized, or grouped into a negative pot.

  • Nehemiah53

    Look Male bashing have become sport among the liberal black educated elite
    even the president have gotten in on it so I don’t see it stopping anytime
    soon!

  • Anonymous

    It’s not bashing, it’s the truth. I’m tired of hearing black girls and guys saying I never knew or didn’t grow up with my dad. It’s a high percentage, until there’s a huge improvement, the complain will persist. BM bash BW, vice versa and both need to take responsibility. Happy father’s day, to all dads out there who go extra mile to sacrifice and provide for their family especially the children.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not bashing, it’s the truth. I’m tired of hearing black girls and guys saying I never knew or didn’t grow up with my dad. It’s a high percentage, until there’s a huge improvement, the complain will persist. BM bash BW, vice versa and both need to take responsibility. Happy father’s day, to all dads out there who go extra mile to sacrifice and provide for their family especially the children.

  • Tesa

    The men who are doing what they are supposed to are probably getting praised daily and not just on Fathers day. I tell my husban weekly he’s a great dad and husband. He eats it up and it makes him want to just get better. Here’s an idea, appreciate and love those in your life daily and not just the one day! As for the ones who ate not doing what they are supposed to, bashing the isn’t the answer cuz they don’t care! Uplift the positive ones daily and pray and /or hope that the others figure it out because they have to get their on their own!

    • doziex

      Hey Tesa, you need to be teaching a class on the promotion and survival of black marriages.(LOL)
      Now, that’s the kind of affirmative nurturing any sane man would love to rush home to every day.

  • autumnbreeze

    I just want to say that there are MANY outstanding black men in the community whom I proudly applaud. They are responsible, hard-working, loyal, loving, devoting, and protectors of their black family. We really need to give them credit. Yes, there are many bad apples in the bunch, but don’t we as black women have a bunch of bad apples as well? Instead of bashing and going tit for tat, we need to build our community and strengthen the black family.

    • doziex

      Well said, autumnbreeze. well said.

  • DUMBBEACHPLEASE

    WHEN I’ M WITH MY DADDY, PEOPLE THINK HE’S MY BOYFRIEND UNTIL I GET ON HIS NERVES AND HE SCREAMS, “I’M OLD”!! HE’S SO CUTE THOUGH! HE LOOKS YOUNG AND CHUBBY LOL

  • DUMBBEACHPLEASE

    THEY ACT UP AND THEY’RE GETTING SMACKED UP!

  • Amber-Eliazbeth Stores

    WE NEED TO STOP BASHING EACH OTHER!!!
    Happy Fathers Day to My Father who has always been there..
    &
    Happy Fathers Day to my Ex-Husband a AMAZING father in his own right <3

  • DUMBBEACHPLEASE

    DONT LOOK AT ME! I ONLY BASH THE ONES IN HERE TALKING TRASH! I LOVE MY FAT DADDY, EVEN THOUGH HE’S LOST ALL HIS HAIR!! HE’S STILL CUTE AND CHUBBY LOL

  • medbrotha

    Great post MN, this needed to be said.

  • bluekissess

    I would like to thank my dad for taking responsibility at the age of 19. Two jobs with a football scholarship shows how dedicated he was at wanting to be responsible. I want to thank my dad’s dad for being there for him. I would like to thank my late uncle for providing for his kids and for his nieces and nephews as well. This conversation needs balance this blame game sounds redundant

  • BrinBrin

    How come MN didn’t say anything about black men bashing black women on Mother’s Day? I’m so sick of hearing from black men about black mothers choosing deadbeats as if us black women are some psychics or something. Most of these women didn’t know that the child fathers were gonna turn into jerks because they were charming in the beginning before hearing the words “I’m pregnant”. Of course women is gonna fall for that charm, women are emotional, HELLO!

    • guess who88

      amen! and some of these men are the ones who sell you a dream about marriage and kids. then when it becomes reality they vanish , or make life a living hell . ppl need not judge too quickly. they’re are some real toxics jerks out here. you know that crazy ex that some men talk about . how you think she got crazy?

      • bluekissess

        Nobody told you to buy the dream. Women can get so blinded by the D that they buy the silly dreams. Actions speak louder. Blind people believe dreams

        • guess who88

          if a person is showing actions that show they are a good person and then after a substantial amount of time has passed and you’ve already invested feelings and love then change thats different than what you’re assuming. this happens to ppl everyday its called a double life dear or a con-artist. plenty of ppl are dead or in jail due to these things. you can be with someone for years and not know someone. look at the multiple crime channel shows that have numerous documentaries on that. so all of them are just blind? you are judging.

          • bluekissess

            Call like I see it dear. I don’t believe everything I’m told.

            • grateful

              blue this is babymama central. they ain’t trying to take responsibility for sh!t.

              • bluekissess

                Ikr

          • victoria

            A lot of women say this although the gy has out of wedlock children from previous relationships, or he lives in the club, or he is financial capable of taking care of a family, or he doesnt take the steps necessary to take care of a family…meaning get a decent job, tale on kinancial responsibility and MARRY you before conceiving a child. Marriage speaks louder than words. And Im not talking about marry a deadbeat, but an upstanding man who is more than capable of handling both father and husband role. Your statement, ”if a person is showing actions that show they are a good person and then after a substantial amount of time has passed and you’ve already invested feelings and love..” is very baby mama-ish. In 2012 no black women should fall for talk. Fall for marriage, financial responsibility, values, etc.

            • guess who88

              trying to figure out where are you getting the out of wedlock thing. what i said about ppl not showing themselves after a substantial time has happened in marriages, relationships, gay couples, etc, etc. you see this type of thing everyday. lacey peterson was married to a guy like this. so again what is your point except being judgemental? scott peterson was living a double life , killed his wife and child, had her whole family backing him , and wouldn’t have known a thing if that mistress (that mind you didn’t claims she didn’t know he was married) told the world. there are several examples of ppl living with someone for years and not knowing the real person. so all of them are baby mama-ish too or coincidence ? i think not. its called a sociopath sweetie do some research instead of just blabbing thoughts from the top of your head .

            • guess who88

              trying to figure out where are you getting the out of wedlock thing. what i said about ppl not showing themselves after a substantial time has happened in marriages, relationships, gay couples, etc, etc. you see this type of thing everyday. lacey peterson was married to a guy like this. so again what is your point except being judgemental? scott peterson was living a double life , killed his wife and child, had her whole family backing him , and wouldn’t have known a thing if that mistress (that mind you didn’t claims she didn’t know he was married) told the world. there are several examples of ppl living with someone for years and not knowing the real person. so all of them are baby mama-ish too or coincidence ? i think not. its called a sociopath sweetie do some research instead of just blabbing thoughts from the top of your head .

        • DidSheReallyGoThere

          I think a lot of females got deluded by movies such as Lady and the Tramp, Beauty and the Beast, and Belly. We actually convinced ourselves that enough monogamous love and patience would result in the fruition of these Unworthies’ Plans, Promises, and my fav….POTENTIAL! (rolling eyes). A lot of these Basic Brothas may succeed in securing our confidence in em due to their initial presentation of themselves; they garner IRS-traceable income, pay for a few meals even, own more than the undergarments on their butt, and after a few strategic ministrations of sexual delights—-come the Plans and Promises. I know you’re “perfect”, but maybe in your quiet time, you can admit that such is indeed so. Was Halle Berry blind? Has being a successful, saavy lady (with more Legal personnel on payroll than the number of strands of your weave) spared HER from Baby Daddy Drama? Whoever told you that you’re in a position to point fingers lied.

          • grateful

            we can understand you might be fooled by a few for a few, but do you have to have his baby though?

            • DidSheReallyGoThere

              I’d be ‘grateful’ for you to stop channeling Margaret Sanger (founder of PlannedParenthood). Abortion is not the ‘oops i got preggers by the wrong guy’ solution so many unfortunate Black females make it out to be. An innocent embryo deserves the same shot at life yo mamma gave YOU!

            • DidSheReallyGoThere

              I’d be ‘grateful’ for you to stop channeling M. S. (founder of Planned Parenthood). Abortion is not the ‘oops i got preggers by the wrong guy solution’ so many unfortunate Black females make it out to be. An innocent embryo deserves the same shot at life yo mamma gave YOU! And about the ‘actin like you can read my mind…ergo know MY story’ thing—–I’d be ‘grateful’ if ya don’t! Thanks a milli!

            • DidSheReallyGoThere

              I’d be ‘grateful’ for you to stop channeling M. S. (founder of Planned Parenthood). Abortion is not the ‘oops i got preggers by the wrong guy solution’ so many unfortunate Black females make it out to be. An innocent embryo deserves the same shot at life yo mamma gave YOU! And about the ‘actin like you can read my mind…ergo know MY story’ thing—–I’d be ‘grateful’ if ya don’t! Thanks a milli!

              • victoria

                You can have sex everyday without getting pregnant

            • DidSheReallyGoThere

              I’d be ‘grateful’ for you to stop tryna subjugate me to your ignorant prejudice.

    • bluekissess

      No women arent psychics but women shouldn’t be fools either. If your falling for a guy for his “charm” that falls on you. All a guy has to do is whisper in your ear and you fall for it? The guy didn’t have to do much for you to bite the bait. Nobody wants to see how he treats his mother, how he was raised, morals and values, how many woman he’s been with, where they see themselves in five years. Nobody cares about the get to know you phase? Supply and demand. If women demand to be treated and loved then men will have know choice but to abide by the rules. Does anybody read “Think Like A Man?”

      • guess who88

        and like i said you’re judging this is not how it happens. you need to research things before posting your opinions . this assumption is not how things usually go . there are ppl who fool their damn parents , fool plenty of ppl. hello craiglist killer, scott peterson. oh gawd girl bye “think like a man” is where you’re basing these assumptions??????? wth! i’m talking about actual events and psychology here.

        • bluekissess

          Opinions don’t require facts

          • bluekissess

            Please don’t get upset that you got played. Nobody wants to take responsibility for there own actions. Nobody begged you to sleep or be with that guy.

            • DUMBBEACHPLEASE

              HE OR SHE IS RIGHT! NO DISRESPECT BUT YOU NEED TO LISTEN, DUMMIE. ( I MEAN DUMMY IN A CUTE SWEET WAY. MUAH)

              • bluekissess

                I’m done talking to ignorance. I’m just blessed to have a mom who taught me not to listen to mens lies and a father who decided to be a father at 19 working two jobs and a football scholarship. I don’t have to play the blame game.

                • victoria

                  Bluekisses – you are 100% right. I dont believe the ”oh I didnt know he was a jerk until after I got pregnant” comment many baby mamas make. And this still doesnt explain why so many men and women in our community are having kids out of wedlock.

                  • DidSheReallyGoThere

                    Well as a female who’s CLEARLY never had SEX outside of wedlock (let alone a ‘keepin up appearances at all costs’ abortion or three)…..why aren’t you starting with a referral for us to validate the PhD in Perfection you must own?!

                    • victoria

                      Meet a guy, spend time getting to know him, his family. Find out about his values, character, consider the company he keeps. Make sure you two share the same ideals. Ensure that he has a decent job and is financially stable. Make sure he is a man who handles his business (not the type that expects his woman or mommy to handle his business). Learn about his past. And if he’s a jailbird, has other children out of wedlock – who he doesnt take care of, is violent, poor working record, etc. -Dont date him. Make sure he is seeing other women. If he is, KEEP IT MOVING. After taking suffient time to get to know him, IF YOU MUST sleep with him do so wearing a condom (and other forms of birth control, if possible). If you want marriage, be clear with him that this is your expectation. If he doesnt feel the same…move on. Be sure to know what type of father he will be. This is where his values come in. If so, continue to date in a monogamous relationship. AND THIS IS THE IMPORTAN PART…PAY ATTENTION… get married. Then have children. This all takes time and requires dealing with DECENT MEN. LEAVE THE THUGS, DRUG DEALERS, JAILBIRDS, BABY DADDIES, JOBLESS, WOMANIZERS alone. Caio.

            • guess who88

              what does this statement have to do with anything i pointed out that was pure facts . you’re spewing judgements , opinions, and assumptions. then also trying to pretend to “know” me and how some so called guy played me. for all you know i could be a virgin or not even be in a relationship before. but you’re just typing whatever that is on the top of your head not giving much thought. i’ve posted facts about ppl who were married, in relationships, etc, etc. get a clue.

          • guess who88

            oh ok lol smh

        • Leena

          This may not be how it happened for you or people you know, but how can you speak for other people? Let’s be honest here. You may have been truly duped, but the majority of women choose men who are never going to be any good for them. Most men don’t even have to bother to hide who they truly are. 90 % of the time the signs are always there. You can see them in simple actions if you care enough to pay attention, even with all of that sly talking. This excuse also doesn’t explain why women are letting men who are not their husbands hit with no protection.

          • guess who88

            i never spoke for other ppl. i just was putting another perspective out there using various real life cases. as for women letting a man hit with no protection if someone is married and wants a family (as the cases i used) they’re not gonna use protection. and also how can you speak for everyone by saying 90% so you know 90% of the population? you ask me a question and then turn around and do the same exact thing you claimed i was doing. lol ok….

  • Numero Uno

    I do agree with keeping Father’s Day a positive day and not using that day, which is to celebrate the REAL Fathers, as a day to bash the not so good ones. However, I don’t find it wrong for those who truly know the experience of not having a father in their lives to tell the ones who aren’t living up to the standard, to step it up. I don’t consider that black male bashing if it’s a message that needs to be delivered for the sake of children who’s father’s have for whatever reason chosen to not be a part of their lives. It just needs to be done in the appropriate manner and appropriate settings.

  • bluekissess

    I get tired of seeing and hearing about this topic. New day new topic. Instead of talking about the problems talk about the solutions. If women would stop choosing deadbeat men then there would be no deadbeat father’s. If women would love themselves they wouldn’t have to depend on love from someone who doesn’t know how to love. Men will only do what’s allowed. More people ( mother’s, fathers, homeboys, pastors etcetera) should hold father’s accountable. Don’t wait two days before “fathers day” to express your love/ hate. We all can do better

    • PLEASE

      Or men could also buck up and stop being deadbeats? I’m so sick of this “men will only do what’s allowed” excuse. They are grown a** human beings and need to do better. Yes women need to stop choosing deadbeats but men need to step up and stop being deadbeats. This is just placing the blame on women as always.

  • Guest360

    I understand what you’re saying, however, when the majority of black homes are being headed by single mothers, something needs to be said. While I fully agree that the black men who do what they’re supposed to do should be praised, there are many more black men who don’t and they need to held accountable for that. As is always the case, the majority who do wrong always get the most attention over the minority who do right.

    • autumnbreeze

      Then shouldn’t this be a good time to pay more attention to those who are doing the right thing? :)

  • RedButterfly81

    When black men stop bashing us for chasing thugs, being overweight and being on welfare, then we’ll stop bashing them.

    • Ms_Sunshine9898

      instead of going tit for tat, both genders need to focus on improving flaws within both genders. . .

      • vwells1

        Amen!

      • RedButterfly81

        True, I just wish these men would stop blaming us single moms for problems going on in this world like these bad a** teens. Maybe if the fathers would step up and be involved in their kids lives and get learn how to along with the mother of their child then it will be less of these kids running the streets and committing crime. My ex-husband and I get along well for the sake of our daughter, so he deserves a happy father’s day for being a good father.

        • bishop

          Why are you even chiming in when you have a good relationship with your daughter’s father? Your last sentence would have been suffice. Try elevating the discussion and share some of your insights as to what you and your ex do to get along well instead of the bitterness which doesn’t pertain to you.

        • DUMBBEACHPLEASE

          GIRL STOP LISTENING TO THOSE SORRY LOSERS. HALF OF THEM ARE CROSS DRESSING HATING BEACHES FROM OTHER RACES TRYING TO USE REVERSE PSYCHOLOGHY ON THESE REMEDIAL IDIOTS TO ENSLAVE THEM. THE REST HAVE MULTIPLE BABYMAMAS THEM DAM N SELVES!

        • Nope

          “and get learn how to along with the mother of their child”
          IMO, there’s more women that need to learn how to seperate THEIR emotions from their child’s and get over their emotional disappointment and bitterness. Men are forced with dealing with women that use their child as an emotional weapon or who give some BS ‘full package’ ultimatum to the man (and I’m sure most of us know EXACTLY what I mean by that……). That’s a huge factor in situations where the father isn’t in a child’s life. It’s usually a cause not an effect. Not justifying the men who may do this, but it’s also an unspoken reality

          • DidSheReallyGoThere

            I couldn’t nick-named you betta “NOPE”. N: needs to face REALITY O: out of touch with REALITY P: probably the capital “S” in sorry with [his] own dang kid[s] E: ever-ready to scapegoat the mother[s] of his own to assuage his shifty conscience of any accountability. For the 2 outta 10 who do (WRONGFULLY) use their kid[s] as manipulative chess….they’re 8 left who are being ‘punished’ for merely ceasing to engage in physical intimacies just for the askin—-or for entering a new relationship with a new man. I can personally quote a ‘man’ who said “since she wants to be married to that new n!66^ so bad….let HIM pay for what she be callin me claimin she needs for the kids”. If “Nope”‘s baby mama is so uncooperative…how’s bout Family Court and Joint Custody already? Oh yea….there’s a catch “Nope”. You gotta show the judge sufficient substantiation that you REGULARLY financially support your seeds that you ain’t properly bonding with. Sorry if your BM really IS a battle-ax; but do I buy your tired line about “I don’t see em cuz she’s such a meanie”? NOPE!!!! I don’t. Come Again, Lame-o.

          • grateful

            you said
            “Men are forced with dealing with women that use their child as an emotional weapon or who give some BS ‘full package’ ultimatum to the man”
            they are NOT forced, they didn’t have to sleep with these women to begin with and they certainly didn’t have to do so unprotected.

        • Ms_Sunshine9898

          yes, and women need to to be more selective about who they sleep with and choose to procreate with. a man will only do as much as we allow them to, and if we keep giving these no good the time of day, they’ll keep creating babies with us and leaving our children without fathers. . .

    • DUMBBEACHPLEASE

      KNOWING THEY ARE OVERWEIGHT THUGS WITH CHILDREN ON WELFARE AND THEY CHASE WH 0ES WHO SMILE FOR THE CAMERA WITH THEIR FAKE A $$ INSTEAD OF THEIR SMILE. HA HA HA

    • Nehemiah53

      I can tell by your comment you have a agenda!

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