Would You Be Cool Not Being Claimed?

March 13th, 2012 - By Brande Victorian

Source: Bossip

A few entertainment blogs were buzzing today because Diddy and Cassie were seen touching down at LAX Airport together after getting back from Paris Fashion week. When I first saw the pics of these two in practically matching gray sweat suits I was like awww, they’re so cute. Then I was like wait, they weren’t actually photographed together. Then I decided the paparazzi just couldn’t capture the shot so I went back to awww, and then I was like wait (again), this dude doesn’t even claim her. I mean, these two have not been in a relationship for how long now?

Emily B and her non-relationship-acknowledging boyfriend Fab immediately came to mind when I thought of Diddy and Cassie but I won’t put these two in that category. Emily’s claiming Fabolous and Fab’s claiming dolo; when it comes to Diddy and Cassie, neither one of them is acknowledging the relationship—big difference. Then I thought of Bey and Jay, but the sheer magnitude of their careers and their need to keep their relationship out of the public eye just doesn’t quite compare with Cassie’s career, so I’m not putting these two in that category either. Then I settled on Nelly and Ashanti. That’s who these two are the modern-day version of. You’ll see them out hugged up at a party or in the front row at a fashion show boo’d up, but once the relationship questions come up…you say she just a friend (cue Biz Markie).

So does it matter? Not when it comes to us, of course. The public doesn’t have to know who’s dating, sleeping, or creeping with who, but I wonder how these women feel being openly denied or at least not acknowledged. While I know both Cassie and Diddy are pulling the “no comment” PR stunt, women are often the ones seeking commitment from partners, and I can’t help but feel like the whole I don’t talk about my relationship line they’ve been running is all Diddy’s doing. I mean, let’s be real Diddy is an attention hog and he’s had much more high-profile relationships than this that he openly acknowledged. One could say he’s learned his lesson about keeping his mouth shut with this one but I’m more inclined to think he’s not claiming because he isn’t committed?

There have been more than enough rumors about Diddy loving up on tons of women in the same time frame he’s been with Cassie from Mischa Barton, to Sienna Miller, and Cameron Diaz. That whole I never said we were in a relationship excuse comes in pretty handy when you’re out and about with someone other than your insignificant other. And if Cassie did want to finally stop pretending the man she’s glued at the hip to for pretty much every event really isn’t just a “friend,” is she even in a position to, considering he has her heart and her career hanging by a thread? That fact has led some people to think Cassie is just screwing her way to the top, which is pretty unfortunate if these two are a real couple. And that’s why I’m a fan of giving your girl the acknowledgement she deserves instead of having her look like a golddigging you know what.

Even though these two are celebs, the same thing tends to happen with non-famous couples. A man may claim he doesn’t want people in his business so he keeps his relationship on the hush when it really just throws serious shade on his partner and invites all types of outside skepticism that can ruin a relationship. It’s also a convenient line to keep him from being accountable when he’s with someone he shouldn’t be. I’m not saying I need a man to shout their love for me from the rooftops but if we’re in a relationship and someone asks him, his answer better be yes, just like mine will be.

Would you be comfortable not being claimed, as long as you know what your relationship is? Or do you think keeping your relationship secretive like Cassie and Diddy is a no-no?

Brande Victorian is a blogger and culture writer in New York City. Follower her on Twitter at @be_vic.

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  • JD

    Cassie probably doesn’t care whether he claims her or not as long as he continues to take care of her!!! Diddo for the babies mama as well!!!

  • http://www.charcoal-ink.com Kagem

    Is Cassie in love with Puffy?

    I kind of wish they can work it out or he works it out with Kim Porter. Diddy is an only child whose father was murdered – I always get the impression he is very ”me against the world”.

    Maybe he could let one woman in so they can be against the world together? 

    • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

      Pipe dream. Diddy won’t settle down because 1. he doesn’t have to and 2. he knows if he gets serious with a woman he actually loves she will require that ring sooner or later and he for sure ain’t going to risk any part of his fortune. Just keeping it real.

  • Netdandri

    They don’t talk about their “relationship” because it’s not an exclusive relationship. Duh. I think Diddy’s still supposed to be with his baby mama of three. That’s his “main chick“ and Cassie knows it.

    When he and Cassie started out Diddy was with his baby mama. Cassie was nearly legal. Diddy started an affair with her then signed her no talent having self to his label. (Cassie was an aspiring model; I don’t even think her goal was to become a singer.)

    Baby mama has known about this for years. She’s learned to be cool with it as long as her checks clear. At least that’s the last that I’ve heard on their situation.

    • Netdandri

      Cassie was barely legal when she first dated Diddy, not nearly legal. My phone is tripping.

  • Sandi Flowers

    we were so into all his relationships in the past and non of them lastest so maybe this time if we leave him alone and let him do his thing maybe he can learn to be  in a committed relationship without all the public drama… If he wasnt rich this wouldnt matter to all of us even so ordinary people have friends that get jealous because one person found a friend and the others do not have anyone. When I found someone special after leaving my ex-husband and all my friends hadnt found anyone before me one said “I look too pretty not to have a good man”.. What did she mean was so pretty than me or I didnt deserve a good man… Point blank she was jealous and still is. Now she communicates with my ex-husband on facebook.. The same man she couldnt stand because he cheated on me and treated our kids bad. People that feel they deserve more than want you have will do and say anything that will destroy your relationship in public, but if you keep your business to yourself than they wont have any ammunition. Women tell too much on their business about their man then the other women want to try him… Look at Diddy and his twins mother… One of her hanging girls got pregnant right after she did and had a babby within a month of the twins.  She used to hang out and listen to her talk about her a Diddy all the time and then she went after him herself…

  • Coco Black

    Emily and Fab….well that’s just a joke!! Emily, Cassie and all the other ladies caught up in these dysfunctional relationships need to get some self esteem and LEAVE these playa men alone!!

  • Coco Black

    Errrrr…..hasn’t Diddy been breeding up ‘other’ women whilst supposedly being in a special relationship with Cassie. The normal NORMS don’t apply in this particular case. For instance, as far as we know Bey and Jay where in an exclusive relationship and chose to keep their business between themselves…respect to that!!! Just cos he didn’t ‘claim’ her in to the media we all knew the deal.

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  • Lorenzo

    Can Diddy help her career. Why are you putting a label on this  union. Those ladies you named are doing the same thing for the sake of thier careers. if she can work that out why bother to care. 

  • http://twitter.com/SimplyCharmy Bad Teacher

    It may take some getting used to, but some men prefer to keep their personal lives under wrap because they treasure it so much that they don’t want it attacked or tarnished due to their high profile lifestyle. Men naturally desire to protect and provide.

  • Whitney-Margeaux Gurley

    i keep my relationships as quiet as possible for as long as possible, i need time to see if we have something , and then to enjoy that something before putting “us” up to scrutiny of my and my man’s extensive social network, for my previous two relationships ended within weeks of updating the status on facebook… j/s.
    i HATE the idea of “claiming” what am i, what is he, a lost hangbag?! and why assume cassie is the sneak-tip… i would deny ditty-s corny/clown/fool a** too!

  • Aunt Juicy

    I was in a relationship EXACTLY like this for three years. The reason we never claimed one another was because we never talked committing in any form or fashion. It didn’t bother me bcuz at the time being in my late 20′s I was still having fun and didn’t have to answer to anyone about all the fun I was having. However, I was not intimate with anyone else. Close to the 2nd year I noticed a difference in him, he became more open with PDA’s. After we hit 3 years, out of nowhere he proposed to me, and I said yes. We did it til death did us part…. He ended up being the best husband and best friend a woman could ever ask for.(Cancer came along and changed everything). You don’t need to be claimed out loud to know what you have. Women who worry about things like that care what ppl think. Just keep in my how you feel and how he makes you feel. Outside validation doesn’t even count. It’s only opinions, and opinions of others.

    • Sky

      I just came across this topic today and a huge smile come over my face, while I read your response.  First, I’m sorry for your lost.  Second, I’m glad things worked out for you, considering being in this type of relationship before getting married.  I would appreciate your take on my situation.  (VERY LONG BUT IT HAS HAD ME BAFFLED FOR A WHILE)

      Me and this guy met in 2004, while on my job.  He didn’t work there but would just drop by and visit, from time to time, friends of his who worked with me.  Soon we became good friends.  He’d come and talk to me in my office for hours.  He had a gf and I was dating so it was strictly friendly; not even any friendly flirting.  We never talked on the phone or went out.  We just had a lot in common and had the best conversations at my job.  Unfortunately, in 2008 I got laid off and ended up moving out of state for another job.

      In 2010, I moved back and ran into him at a festival in April of that year, while I was on a date.  We spoke briefly and exchanged numbers.  Also, he informed me that he was single.  I joked with him about this because when he’d come to my job, he always seemed unsure if he wanted to marry his gf at the time.  So I just assumed that if I’d ever bumped into him again, he’d be married, but he wasn’t.  It was like we were right back on track as if no time had passed.  We went out, laughed a lot, had deep conversations, confided in each other about things, argued, made up and just overall got extremely comfortable with each other.

      In January, 2011 we kissed for the first time and things seemed to be heading towards the relationship route.  He told me how he was relationship person, his feelings for me and seemed to be proposing a relationship to me; even telling me that I needed to think about what I wanted.
      (I’d always been a relationship phobe for the previous 10 years, which he knew about)  So I told him about how I didn’t believe in titles and how I felt like the walls were closing in when guys talked about commitment.  So he continued pursuing me and I thought about us being together with titles.  So after thinking about it for a while (like the next 2 weeks), I decided that I wanted to try something official.  However, he seemed to not want this anymore, meaning an official relationship, so I decided to keep my options open and still date from time to time.

      Since then, we’ve kept our communication going.  We’ve had bumps in the road but can’t seem to stay away from each other because we miss talking to each other too much.  In October 2011, we got into it because I told him about a date I’d gone recently, which I had a great time on.  He was pissed, we went back and forth and then he blurts out “YOU KNOW THAT YOU AND I HAVE BEEN IN A RELATIONSHIP.”  This shocked me because I knew we had something special but never considered it an official relationship because we never made it official.  All of our actions screamed RELATIONSHIP, including us sleeping with anyone, however, in my mind, because we never called each other bf or gf, it wasn’t official, which technically made me a free agent.

      Then in December 2011, we got into it again because he started saying I’m not there for him, I’m controlling, I hadn’t introduced him to my parents (He introduced me to his family in February 2011) and I’d stopped having sex with him.  I told him that I wasn’t obligated to do anything I didn’t want to, including introducing him to my parents because he claimed that what we had was not going anywhere.  I had issues with him still talking to his ex and expecting things of me that people only did in actual relationships.  This escalated and our, what I’ll call “break up” took six hours of arguing, hanging up the phone (mainly on his part, which he later told me was because he knew I was about to end it and didn’t want that) and me explaining to him that I needed exclusivity, friendship, loyalty and sex all rolled into one.  He said that what I listed was a relationship and said that he thought I didn’t want this.

      After that argument, he called texted me but I ignored him.  We didn’t talk for 3 weeks and I was totally miserable.  I ended up calling him and he was excited and seemed relieved to hear from me.  Since then, again, we fell right back into our comfort zone (minus the sex this go round).  I’ve never met anybody like him, who I’m so in sync with.  We can curse each other out several times a day (jokingly of course), make fun of each other, talk about anything and nothing at the same time and do this everyday, for several hours a day.  However, I want it to be official and he still doesn’t want a relationship.  He even started asking for sex and assured me that, just like before, he wouldn’t sleep with anyone else.  Now to me all of this sounds like a relationship but the fact that he doesn’t want the title means that, again, to me, we won’t be in one.  Then again, he thought we were in one before.

      So what is with all of this?  This is the happiest and most confused I’ve been in my life with a guy.  I feel like all of my relationship phobia and rejecting men when they brought up relationships in the past, has come back to bite me in the a**.  I know that I can just leave it alone but for what?  No other guy mirrors me like he does.  Also, he has some qualities that I love, in addition to what we have in common.  He never cheated on his past gf, was raised in a two parent home with a good upbringing, is a great father to his daughter and does eventually want marriage some day.  So should I continue to hang in there or leave him alone completely?
      Is it worth leaving him alone and hopefully meeting someone else who might want the title but not make me as happy as he does?  And yes, I’ve been by myself before, so I’m not one of those “I need a man” chicks.  I’ve gone periods of years without being in a relationship or even a date at certain times in my life and I’m 35.  So I definitely have gotten to know me and what I like in a man and it just happens to be him.  So what do you think?  OK EXHALE BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS VERY LONG.

         

      • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

        He’s keeping his options open. In the meantime he would like the comfort of your company and some steady sex until he meets that woman who knocks his socks off in which case he’s going to drop you like a bad habit. Unless that ends in which case he will be back to you hoping to pick up where y’all left off. Wash, rinse, repeat.

    • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

      So why did you marry him? If you don’t need that validation or to be claimed why get married? If what you had before was so desirable why not continue it forever? Nothing wrong with that right? Surely you can see the hypocrisy in what you typed. You don’t need outside validation yet and still you got married and made your relationship status legal, which to me is waaaaay more validation than a man acknowledging you as his girlfriend.

  • Kalendra

    Beyonce and Jay-Z didn’t claim each other all 7 years they dated up until their marriage.  People praise them as a couple today.  To each’s own.  If they know what it is and are grown and secure in what they have, it doesn’t really matter what anyone else thinks.

    • Netdandri

      Beyonce and Jay Z just didn’t talk about it to the media. I’m sure their friends and family knew the deal. And Jay Z was never seen out and about with other women, so it’s a totally different situation.

      • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

        Yep!

  • Amberjheard

    I think it depends if both of you have decided between you two that you have crossed the line between “dating” and “being in a relationship.” If the conversation hasn’t been had then it’s fair to assume you are both free agents and have no claim to each other. If you have established a relationship then you both should be claiming each other in private and public.

  • Creation1

    We are assuming they are dating. Furthermore, may they don’t want us in their business.

  • Mariah

    No, I wouldn’t be comfortable with that arrangement.  Some people (men AND women) want all the benefits of a relationship and don’t want to give anything in return.  That’s BS.  Now, if two people have an understanding and they are both allowed the same freedoms then that’s a different story. I, personally, could not be friends with benefits, or be exclusive while the other person is not.  I can’t handle that and that’s probably why I am single.  It’s like men (I’m speaking from perspective, because I only date men) want the woman to treat them as if they are in a relationship but they(men) only want to offer sex in return.  No, thanks…I’ll pass.  I’ll probably be alone forever too because I’m not getting ready to play myself out like that.

    • Elethaowens71

      I agree Mariah. I have experienced this type of relationship years ago. I was young and dumb trying to make him happy at my expense because I thought I was in love. There has to be communication and an understanding about where the relationship is going “before” any sexual activity takes place. People need to put their hormones on hold for a minute and be honest how they feel about each other because sex will always change the dynamic after it’s performed and too many of us women, whether we want to admit it or not, will catch feelings and will settle because we “gave him the goods”. As hard as it may be, we must start choosing logic over lust.

      • http://www.ilike.com/user/Sharon_P192 Sista42

        You & Mariah said it best. Women and Men experiences are totally different when it comes to sex.

        • http://howhereallythinks.com/ Jamel Mont

           Different experience? Explain please…

    • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

      All men aren’t like that. I will qualify my statement with a bit of reality. While all men aren’t like that, they all have the propensity of being like that. YOU set the tone early on for how he has to approach being with you. There is nothing wrong with weeding the herd early and often. You are a special one of a kind woman, and you deserve a special one of a kind man, and those are the ones you have to kiss a lot of frogs to find.

  • guest

    not good when  your together but can,t claim your partners damn people needs to know he/she is together as a couple.if gives each other pride.like adam&melanie,that man was talking marriage&babies.hel she sang about them It kills me

  • Smacks_hoes

    No…I would rather just be a guys friend if that’s the case. I definately wouldn’t give away the goods before I’m in a strong committed relationship that’s for sure.

    • tastythoughts

      agreed im at a point in my life where i much rather not have an official relationship…i still have a male friend though but we dont sleep together anymore..mainly cause of me…its just..shrugs im ready to settle he isnt we have fun in the middle…i dont know why we are so caught up in titles…whatever happened to having fun? 

      • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

        If you don’t want titles and you are cool with ‘having fun’ why did you stop sleeping with him?

        I would guess because when you do you feel empty inside because you are sharing your body with someone who doesn’t think enough of you to even claim you exclusively.

  • L-Boogie

    Nope! 

  • FabienneDesrameaux

    “women are often the ones seeking commitment from partners,”

    This line is very tru I remember being in a “relationship” like this. A relationship with no definition what-so-ever and if anything Im pretty sure she feels like crap, it takes a toll on ur confidence. You start thinking what wrong with me y cant I get the commitment the others got. If found in a situation like this the best thing to do is move on and find someone who thinks ur worth it.
    No company is better than bad company 

    • Tinker

      But what if you’re waiting for him to claim you…like after 1 year in a long distance relationship where you have visited four times. Do you get out now, or is it reasonable for him to want to see how its working first.

      • FabienneDesrameaux

        In my opinion just remain friends dont rule him out but continue to date others as well. A long distance relationship is really no relationship at all.Unless you have solid confirmation that one of you is moving and ready to have a real relationship dont get into too deep. Like the saying goes dont put all your eggs in one basket….especially a basket you cant keep watch over. Save yourself the trouble and torture.

      • http://www.yourtango.com/users/cheekee-baby cheekee baby

        Only thing worse than wasting a year with a man who still isn’t “sure” is wasting a year and one day. A man who wants to be with you and only you will profess it to the world. Will shout it from the highest mountain. He’ll tattoo it on his heart. It for dang gone sure won’t take him a year + to figure out whether he’s “sure”.

  • FabienneDesrameaux

    NOOOOO!!!!! Now let me read this article

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