Scandals At The Altar: 10 Black Church Leaders Who’ve Incited Controversy and Doubt

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October 1, 2010 ‐ By TheEditor

The Black Church is back in the spotlight; unfortunately, it’s not for reasons related to sound doctrine. Controversy has once again pushed the organization to the forefront in popular culture. But it’s not the first time. African-American congregations have endured controversy and scandal for decades. Here’s a short list of the stories that made headlines.

Bishop Eddie Long

"Eddie Long"

Bishop Eddie Long’s case is one of the most damaging scandals to hit the Black church.  He’s currently being accused for coercing four young men into sexual relationships. While Bishop Long is fighting those charges, he has since become a media sensation and the newest poster child for “what is wrong with the black church”. As pastor of the 25,000 member New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, Georgia, he has also endured criticism from fellow clergy who challenged his teachings which pushed that homosexually is “spiritual abortion”.

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  • guest

    I agree that if people read their bibles, they would not be deceived. Judgement will start at the house of God, and if the righteous hardly make it in, what’s going to happen to the sinner and the ungodly ones?

  • Guest

    Many Christians need to actually read the bible and not take second hand information. What a shock it was to hear the Producers of the Bible Miniseries on the History Channel proclaim it as totally accurate and to say they consulted with bible scholars. If they had just read the real bible they could have seen they disrespected the Word of God by changing key scenes of the bible and that is the problem in Christendom, second hand information passes as truth!

  • Guest

    Church folks are gullible clones of celebrity preachers based on these reasons:

    1 They confuse the one bringing a good message with the one who is using the vessel to preach the message.

    2 Research on religion showed only 10 percent of church goers have read their whole bible word for word cover to cover beginning to end. These bible illiterates who have never read their bible from Genesis to Revelation cover to cover are prone to see their pastor priest or clergy as equal to a little god or King and they are the subjects.

    3. The use of touch not God’s anointed is misapplied because many church goers think this means to enable bad behavior or give their preacher a pass cause he preaches great sermons.

    4). Clones and robots need to wake up and hold their Pastors accountable to be ethical, upright moral character and to lead by example but they generally offer up excuses and keep right on tithing and following wolves in sheep clothing. I was in a church where the pastor stole large sums of money, admitted to a 2yr .affair on his wife and split the church when he refused to resign and his clones still followed him when he was kicked out of the denomination and when he did it again these enablers still supported him as their leader.

    • Guest

      I need to amend this to say some church folks are clones but if you stay in a church too long you have to conform…that is just the nature of that beast.

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  • TAN

    Well said by all our commentators. May I ask one question, if we are to be the light of the world and salt of the earth and it turned out that the shepherds are feeding fat on the flock is it not the duty of the people to talk about it. My only concern is that gain has been turned into godliness and the bible has warned us against it. GAIN IS NOT GODLINESS BUT GODLINESS WITH CONTENTMENT IS GREAT GAIN. This is what Paul teaches us in the book of Timothy.
    Some of us minister have become too blotted with greed and pleasure. It must be said to save the church. It is written " Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them. Eph 5:11

  • faith

    Many of the pro-preacher, "only god can judge" comments here prove that black women are stupid and sick when it comes to black men. The pathological need to say "he ain't do it" is only slightly LESS sad than the fact that black men do nothing but blame, accuse, and judge black women for setting them up, raising them wrong, and undermining them!
    Look up Stockholm Syndrome Black women! That is you. And try remembering that "only god can judge" crap when a black woman accused a black man of wrong doing or a white (or cop) is accused of doing something to a brotha.

  • John Richards

    Saddens me to see this happening, but I caution against speaking harsh words about the Megachurch movement….

    Scandals in the Megachurch: Are They Worth Attending? http://bit.ly/gwyTl2

    Blessings to you all.

  • Xaviere

    As I look at the state of the black man in America, I am bewildered at the fact that we have lost so much. We have lost our pride, our sense of dignity, our ability to sustain a prosperous future. We have become lethargic in our quest for a better tomorrow. Sure, some have moved out of the ghettos and dirty city streets, but far too many remain. The fact that we still have Crips and Bloods fighting in California and countless other street gangs is a sad testament to the failure of the Black Church, the black woman, and the black family. I don't know when we are going to wake up. The time has come to be more responsible for ourselves and more accountable for our destiny.

    If Barack Obama has shown us anything it is not that "we" can be president; it is that we can be more than just a stereotypical Negro. Grant it, I am one that believes when you have a African father and a white mother, as the President has, you are not necessarily a Black Man in the struggle. For I don't believe Barack has any clue of what the struggle is or was. How could he? He was not raised in a home of parents nor grandparents that endured the dogs of the Civil Rights Movement? Nevertheless, we continue to place onus on him that I believe he is not capable of understanding or bearing. Additionally, to my utter chagrin, we perennially ascribe to him some tour de force because he was elected to be President of the United States of America. Grant it, it is a wonderful accomplishment. But President Obama cannot and will not change the current state of affairs in Black America. That is up to us.

    We must begin to hold our so-called leaders feet to the fire. Actually, we need to stop allowing them to lead us and allowing media to call them our leaders. As they are not leading but only following the devil to Hell and taking all of us with them. Black America is not better off because of them. In fact, if you look at the HIV statistics, High School dropout rates, and prison population numbers, it is unarguable that they are failures! Utter and complete failures!!! We must fight for our futures and futures of our families.

    We must not allow ourselves to aspire to be incompetent criminals, incorrigible thugs, pandering preachers, and Dolemite wanna-be pimps that idolize fools like Kanye West, Jessie Jackson, Al, Sharpton, and Tiger Woods, who wasn't even a black person until he cheated on his wife then he got a dose of the OJ Simpson media medicine. Yes, I think he killed that white woman. I beg of the Black Man to rise from the ashes of degradation and think more, do more, be more. The world is changing and the fade to black is not looking promising.

  • miamac

    this scandal really is nothing new in the church. as a child i was rinsed in religion and remember this going on even back. every thing clothed in God is not the truth and people need to pay attention to where they worship and where they seed their offerings.

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  • donnaa1960

    It is an utterly disgrace and disrespect to the deity of Christ, and the church in which he gave himself for it. That some of these so called pastor, preachers take the ministry in vain, and make a mockery of it. This is too why some people will not come into the church house to worship with others. Some say, go to the club, it is no different from the church people.

  • donnaa1960

    As for Prophetess and televangelist Juanita Bynum, she was already married to the ministry. She didn't need to get married again. Thats why she fell into a deep spiritual depression.

  • donnaa1960

    Alot of this is about politics too. But….there is always another side to the saga. The U.S. Senate Finance Commity, Sen. Grassley called for the financial records of a lot of the T.V. evangelist in 2007 thru. 2008. Seems that every since, some of these mega pastors have had serious problems. Especially the ones that argued with the request of their records.

  • donnaa1960

    Ok people…..what the hell about this terry jones so called pastor in Florida somewhere that was threatening to bon fire the "Karon" on the church property. This buffoon was about to start a holy war here in the U.S. He was about to cause even more casualties in Afganistan and Iraq!!! This thing was about to get a lot of people hurt. So……no one was scared of this???

  • DERRICK

    paula white, Noel Jones , Benny Hinns, Zackery Timms, Kirk Franklin, The Word Network

  • BLACK

    can we say cult mentality, stop worshiping men, chuch is a social event, nice hat, did you see how sister look’d at preacher today. keep searching folks you will find what you are looking for, it wont come from a preacherman

  • Robbie

    Pastor Hezekiah Walker seems to be the only one on the list who doesn't belong there. But, then again, this list is acknowledging scandals that have surrounded these preachers – and though Pastor Walker was redeemed and the source that instigated the scandal lied, it still grew into a scandal nonetheless, so maybe it is a legit recognition.

  • mt.winans

    EVERY MAN MENTIONED HERE IS SUBJECT TO FAULTER AT ONE LEVEL OR ANOTHER . NO MAN SHOULD BE INPOWERED TO A POINT WERE HIS FAULTS COULD SHAKE THE VERY FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH ITSELF ( ANYBODIES CHURCH BLACK , WHITE , OR OTHER WISE ) THE BIBLE TEACHES US WHO IS WHO AND WE STILL CHOOSE TO BE DISOBEDIENT AND BOW DOWN TO THINGS AND PEOPLE THAT WE SEE IN STEAD OF FOLLOWING THE TEACHINGS OF THE 23 PSALM : THE LORD IS MY SHEPERD , HE MAKETH ME , HE LEADETH ME , HE RESTORETH ME . WHEN WE FORGET THAT THEN CHURCH IS MERLY A MEETING PLACE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO ON SUNDAY MORNING . JUST A BUILDING ! IT'S SAD WHEN THE SIN GETS MORE PRESS THAN THE ONE WHO CAN WASH THEM AWAY . LET THE LAWS OF THE LAND PREVAIL , AND THE CHURCH DEAL WITH THIS SITUATION ACCORDING TO THE WORD OF GOD . BUT REGARDLESS OF WHAT LET GOD BE GLORIFIED ABOVE IT ALL . DON'T BE FOOLED GOD IS REAL !!!

  • Yanari

    Whoever wrote the fourth sentence in the piece about Reverend Jamal Harrison Bryants, who is your editor? Quote: "The controversy, however, has not put a stronghold on his ministry and popularity. Rev. Bryant continues to pastor…. Are you sure? STRONGHOLD"? Not "STRANGLEHOLD"? Yeeeesh!

    • MIDDLEMYATT

      Excellent observation; I was thinking the same thing. Wasn't that error distracting? Pleeeeze, let's get it together.

  • Barb

    I don't know if the people of New Birth will ever believe EL is guilty. Most will not leave the church. He has done to them what Jim Jones did to his people.

  • Danyul

    When a "non"-believer goes through hardship, "believers" say it is God pushing them for their sins and dis-belief. When a "believer" goes through hardship, it is not God pushing them, but Satan attacking them and trying to steal their joy.

    See, this is why I ask God to save me-From his followers.

    When these Preachers do wrong, they scream the Devil is attacking them and use a host of Bible verses to seemingly validate it as the followers scream and shout for them. If you all say God is real, why limit God? How can you not think God is getting rid of these devils in your pulpits? Besides, why pulpit anyway? Don't you preach against being pulled into the pit…isn't the entire religion about not being cast into the pit? If all you Christians would just shut up, open your Bibles along with a Concordance or learn Hebrew and Greek, study the origin of your religion, you will do good to learn something.

  • Anointed1

    Somebody come on help me… lets start praise and worship…

    Sing with me…

    My soul, loves Jesus, my souuuul looves Jesus, my soul loves Jesus BLESS his name… my soul loves Jesus, my sould loeves Jesus, my soul loves Jesus, bless his name.

    He’s a wonder (oh come on and bless him) in my soul, He’s a wonder, in my soul, He’s a wonder in my soul BLESS his name! He’s a wonder in my soul, He’s a wonder in my soul, He is a wonder in my soul… bleeesss His name.

    Lord, we bless your name. We acknowledge your power Lord, for you are the creator and you hold the earth in the palm of your hands. God we need you today. Forgive us for all of our sins God, sins known and unknown. God my heart is aching now for zion, for the mislead and the lost. God come in and strengthing our hearts. Renew our minds Lord, wash us, clean us all over again. Purge our vessels right now God.. Save us the more, anoint us the more, clean us the more God. I plead the blood of Jesus over every person on this post, over every church God, bless their home, bless their sanctuary, bless their temple of praise and worship. God cancel every plan of attack from the enemy. Continue to give us spiritual discernment and santify our spiritual eyes so we can rebuke the wolf when he appears in sheeps clothing. Oh God we’re calling on you now because you are God alone. No one can help us or save us but you God. God I praise your name now and I lift you up high above the heavens. Thank you God for your grace and mercy that keeps us alive. God we know that you didnt have to do it but you did. God I love you and I’ll forever worship you, glorify you and magnify you. In Jesus name I pray, Amen.

    Learn to pray in the mist of it all saints for the prayers of the righteous availeth much. Be blessesd saints of God. I love you all.

  • Anointed1

    Somebody come on help me… lets start praise and worship…

    Sin with me…

    My soul, loves Jesus, my souuuul looves Jesus, my soul loves Jesus BLESS his name… my soul loves Jesus, my sould loeves Jesus, my soul loves Jesus, bless his name.

    He's a wonder (oh come on and bless him) in my soul, He's a wonder, in my soul, He's a wonder in my soul BLESS his name! He's a wonder in my soul, He's a wonder in my soul, He is a wonder in my soul… bleeesss His name.

    Lord, we bless your name. We acknowledge your power Lord, for you are the creator and you hold the earth in the palm of your hands. God we need you today. Forgive us for all of our sins God, sins known and unknown. God my heart is aching now for zion, for the mislead and the lost. God come in and strengthing our hearts. Renew our minds Lord, wash us, clean us all over again. Purge our vessels right now God.. Save us the more, anoint us the more, clean us the more God. I plead the blood of Jesus over every person on this post, over every church God, bless their home, bless their sanctuary, bless their temple of praise and worship. God cancel every plan of attack from the enemy. Continue to give us spiritual discernment and santify our spiritual eyes so we can rebuke the wolf when he appears in sheeps clothing. Oh God we're calling on you now because you are God alone. No one can help us or save us but you God. God I praise your name now and I lift you up high above the heavens. Thank you God for your grace and mercy that keeps us alive. God we know that you didnt have to do it but you did. God I love you and I'll forever worship you, glorify you and magnify you. In Jesus name I pray, Amen.

    Learn to pray in the mist of it all saints for the prayers of the righteous availeth much. Be blessesd saints of God. I love you all.

  • Sha

    Have enjoyed reading all of the comments. First, many of u need the assistance of Spellcheck. Second, many of u are correct, no man "called" by GOD needs a Million Dollar mansion or an expensive car 2 parade around in. Third, people love being a part of organizations where status & prestige make them part of the elite. Fourth, Eddie is as guilty as the day is long. If he were truly called by GOD, he would tell the truth since "the truth will set u free." Fifth, it doesn't matter whether these young men r after money or not – they were all exploited! Sixth, this will never make it 2 court due 2 a settlement which the church will be lied 2 and told it's in their best interest(s). Lastly, have any of u ever received a "suggestive" photo of your religious leader? Have your sons?

  • Gerri Watts

    My Dad use to comment: Holiness is right if no one lives it.

  • Kelley Smith

    Oprah Winfrey faced a similar issue with her school in South Africa. This is what Oprah did:

    1. She told her audience what happened, first. You heard about this from Oprah.

    2. She called for an investigation of the charges.

    3. She went to the school and believed and supported the victims.

    Oprah is not a minister, Oprah may not be a Christian, but her actions in this matter were right, good and moral.

    Is the same true of Eddie Long?

  • Julius Cherry

    I only have this to say about these men , they got to where they are because poeple support them in there wrong doings . (DONE)

  • Smokey

    He will be, if he doesn't repent and change his evil ways.

  • EJ

    GOD IS JUST CLEANING HOUSE OF ALL THE PLAYERS.

  • Mhael J.

    Just as Plain and Simple! What does the wor of God imply; tHE wORD OF GOD will and Always be RITE, Regardless to who you are, what ones position may be. And no matter how much Power, Money/Sex one craves. There is A Judgement W/the Almighty. Depending how one makes thier Reservations

  • Marcia Kia Simpson-J

    In this Eddie Long case, I want to know where the father's of these boys are? Where are the mother of these boys? Where are their families? My God, I want to know who is looking out for these boys, outside of the lawyers?

  • The Prophet

    I ASK THE LORD A QUESTION WHY SO MUCH CONTROVERSEY AMONGST THE GREAT MEN

    AND WOMEN OF GOD. SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD. MOST OF WHAT YOU GOT WAS FOR THE MASTER

    WILL ,NOT FOR YOUR SELFISH DESIRE. THERE IS NO TEST

    OR TEMPTATION WHEN YOU ARE ROOTED AND GROUNDED IN THE WORD OF GOD. LET GET AN ANSWER

    FROM THE GLORIFIED CHRIST WHO IS COMING BACK FOR HIS PEOPLE. WILL HE COME BACK IN A BENTLEY INSTEAD

    OF RIDING ON A HORSE. WHILE THE GOD OF THIS WORLD PUTS PEOPLE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE. IN HIS LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT DID JESUS FORGET ABOUT HIS CHURCH,

    OR THIOSE WHO WERE IN THE CHURCH NO HE DIDN'T.

    THE BIBLE SEEK YOUR TREASURES IN HEAVENLY PLACES

    NOT IN THIS WORLD. STOP USING THE EXCUSE A BETTER

    LIFE WHEN YOU STARTED LOOKING AT DOLLAR SIGNS MORE THAN GOD.PEOPLE OF GOD IF THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST IS NOT FOLLOWING YOUR SHEPARD MAYBE

    YOUR FOLLOWING THE POPULARITY INSTEAD OF OUR GOD POWER. GRACE AND PEACE TO YOU ALL UNTIL THE KINGDOM OF GOD COMSES AND THE TRUE SAINTS OF GOD WILL BE TOGETHER AS ONE.

    • Jackie "B"

      They Should Vote You In Ed Long's Place And Let You Take Over His Congragation"GODS CHILD"

  • tamara

    JUDGE AND YOU SHALL BE JUDGED .TO ALL GODS PEOPLE WE NEED TO PRAY FOR BISHOP AND ALL PEOPLE INVOLVED NOT GIVE NEGATIVE COMMENTS. SIN IS SIN .THERES NO LITTLE SIN OR BIG SIN .GOD FORGIVES US OF ALL OUR SINS. REMEMBER PEOPLE OF GOD THE WORLD IS LOOKING AT US. WE ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT WE DO TO OTHERS NOT WHAT THEY DO. BE BLESSED.

  • Marie Holloman

    nothing will happen too these people they think they are higher than God. Never will forget how a family member was treated at creflo, chruch didn't have the money and was not welcome. Cam't wait till paula white is busted. I tryed to send money, but wasn't enough for her.

  • PastorRamona Hunter

    We ALL have fallen down many times and disappointed God , made mant wrong choices,but we repent.David, the king of Israel made a bad choice but God forgave him. I love the scripture," He who is without sin,cast the first s tone"God have Mercy on all of us and this country.Sin knows no color.

    PEACE

  • KNOWLEDGE CREED

    Funny how everyone forgot Jesse Jackson's flagrant indescretions. That's why he is known as Messy Jesse.

  • Jackie "B"

    This is exactly why I don't belong to NO church. All preachers are pimps. His followers believe in him and praise him more than the "ALL MIGHTY" Im not a follower I know who I am and who I belong to. I'm not following no man on this earth that's equal to me.Churches are social gatherings . Preachers run a business and thats a church. They tell you to go seek the lost so you can help them bring in more revenue. His followers are the one's LOST.

  • Lelia Walker

    I don't know why so many people have found Bishop long guilty before the trial, you are judging him already and you don't know where all the publicity is true or not. The bible says judge no lest you will be judged. let our god do his work, who knows if thosr young men are telling the truth or not. stop and give the benefit to all involved. Eddie Long may God Bless you.

  • Sam Wilson

    It is a sad occurance when ever one of God's annointed fall to sin, However we must remember they are men . Read your Bible. Every man called by God was flawded except Jesus The Christ. They were murderers, liars, adulterers,etc.

    Thank God for Grace and Mercy for we all fall short and he who is without cast the first stone NOW !!!

  • Nell

    I had a dream that I went into a beauty salon to buy some hair products, when I entered into the store the shelves were bare and no products. I asked the manager why were they closing the store, she spoke and said, I am retiring and they are shutting the store down.

    I prayed and asked God for the interpretation of the dream, He said; the beauty salon is the church, the hair products are the members, the store manager are the false pastor, the shelves are the barren soul, for the bare not the fruits of Christ in the soul, and He was shutting them down because they are serving a headless jesus. WOW. Unless God builds the house it is build in vain. They who build their own house rejected the cornerstone who is Jesus Christ and God is bringing them down.

    God is now building His Church restoring His church under the Headship of Jesus Christ and returning the Church back to "Her First Love" who is Jesus Christ under the New Covenant of Jesus Christ.

    The Bible declares, "He that believes is born of God, "For Christ to be born in you, you need the knowledge of God's truth and the nourishment of His grace; for grace carries equity for faith, faith carries equity for charity, and that is where your temperament is-it's carried in that cycle.

    God said His people perish from lack of knowledge, what kind of knowledge is God speaking about? He's speaking about the living, ordered, and divine knowledge of Jesus Christ. It is important to know that the flesh follows the spirit of the kingdom it is tethered to, and therefore the temperament of each kingdom is manifested-for the virtue of the kingdom is the tool you use.

    Anyone can say, which many do say that I am not perfect, if you are not perfect then you do not possess the virtue of Christ within you, because Christ is perfect and if Christ in you then you should also be perfect. We know perfect faith pleases God if your faith is not perfect you are not perfect and Christ do not dwell in you.

    How can your faith be perfected before God? By coming into the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, using the sanctified tools He designed to make our faith perfect and living.

    God doesn't sanctify everybody and everything that people add a scripture to and say it's God, because it isn't. God only dwell in what He has sanctifies and authorize.

    God is now calling all saints that is scattered abroad, to take responsibility of their priesthood, being united together under the banner of Christ through the stewardship of living apostles today, the called chosen and the faithful, to build His kingdom with the sanctified tools that Jesus' blood was sprinkled on.

    God said come out from among them, those who sits in darkness, and be ye separated. When the Church lost her first love (Jesus) she also left her first works and doctrine and function turned inward and focused upon the flesh. When God said, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked” (Jer.17:9), He was speaking of the manner in which the heart reflects its own counsel for false equity. Christians have long been vulnerable to Satan who moves the waters of the soul to excite its passions, while remaining cloaked behind meaningless psychology. But God is healing the breach of many generations and now establishing the confidence of the church in the steward of His grace.

    Learn what God is now doing through the Apostolic Governance of Jesus Christ, by taking of His yoke upon you and learning of Him by using these sanctify tools of His covenant, His priesthood, and His altar. I fill this is a great opportunity to share with you how God is now restoring His Church for the end time harvest purging the hearts from the false knowledge of this world to the sanctified knowledge of His throne.

    I invite you to visit our web-site and take a look at what God is now doing to prepare His church before His return, “THE RAPTURE”. http://second8thweek.org

    • http://www.pamsheppard.com Pam Sheppard

      Hi Nell.

      Your dream is very similar to my auditory vision. A few years ago, I was planning to travel the country to conduct training seminars in the churches when I heard in the spirit, "Would you put curtains up at the windows of a condemned building?" I answered in my head, "No." The response was "well training in the churches is like putting up curtains at the windows of a condemned building. Inside the building are rats and roaches, no heat, no water. The rats are the preachers, the roaches are the members. The water and the fire of the Holy Ghost has been SHUT OFF. THE ORGANIZED CHURCH HAS BEEN JUDGED ALREADY AND IT IS CONDEMNED!!!!!

      I didn't want to believe this so I tried the spirits for one year to study church history, resulting in a book called THE FAKE JESUS.

      Simply put. a minister since 1981, I shut down the church that I myself founded 12 year prior to this vision. I will not step foot inside of another church building for any reason.

      I welcome you to visit http://www.pamsheppard.com/bookstore

  • BOLINGO K

    I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT NOT ALL OF YOUFELL FOR THE ATTEMPTED CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OF REV WRIGHT. THE MAN SIMPLY DID HIS JOB AND PREACH THE WORD. THE BIBLE IS FULL OF EXAMPLES OF GOD RESCINDING A BLESSING OR DAMNING A GROUP OF PEOPLE…[1st & 2nd KINGS}. WHEN GOD BLESSED A KINGDOM AND THEY FAILED TO DO WRIGHT BY GOD, HE DID IN FACT DAMN THAT KINGDOM. DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER. REV WRIGHT WAS POINTING OUT THAT AMERICA WAS A BLESSED KINGDOM AND WE ALL SING ABOUT THIS BLESSING OF AMBER WAVES OF GRAIN AND PURPLE MOUNTAINS MAJESTIES FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA; AND IF WE CONTINUE TO DO WRONG IN THE SIGHT OF GOD{ ie. invading foreign lands and bombing innocent people and calling it casualties of war} then, GLESS AMERICA CAN EASILY BECOME GOD DAMN AMERICA. IT'S A PREACHER'S JOB TO POINT TO POTENTIAL PITFALLS AND KEEP FOLKS FROM FOLLOWING THE WRONG PATH. DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER, HE'S ONLY DOING HIS JOB . IT'S THOSE OTHER FALSE TEACHERS WHO CALL THEMSELVES MINISTERS OF GOD'S WORD, YET FAILED TO ENDORSE THE RIGHTEOUS REV WRIGHT, WHO SHOULD BE CASTIGATED

  • Betty

    Your comments are very deep and very appreciated.

  • concerned one

    Revs Al nor Jesse are pastors of a church or leading a congregation. So, there's the diffrence. However, that does not excuse their behavior.

  • MOE

    I NEVER HEARD OF JESUS RIDING AROUND IN A GOLD PLATED CHARIOTE….AND I THOUGHT THE TILTH’S WHERE FOR THE CONGREGATION WHEN MEMBERS WHERE HAVING A HEARD TIME

  • Johnny Duncan

    I remember something of Rev. Jesse Jackson extra-marital affair which produced an outside sibling! What about the hoopla with Rev. Al Sharpton and Tewana Brawley? How do these episode fit in, or do they?

  • Gail Fredrick

    THIS IS ONE PLACE YOU NEED TO FORGET THE RACE CARD. THIS MAN IS ACCUSED OF ABUSING BLACK MALES OK. BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO QUIT DEFENDING CRIMINALS AT ANY COST. WAKE UP TO THAT. WRONG DON'T HAVE NO COLOR OR RACE. AND GOD WILL JUDGE FORNICATORS AND ADULTERERS. NOW THATS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS AND IT AINT NOTHING ABOUT WHAT COLOR YOU ARE GONE SAVE YOU FROM THAT RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT. THERE ARE SOME HORRIBLE BLACK PEOPLE OUT THERE AND THEY NEED PEOPLE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT TOO. HIDING BEHIND, ESPECIALLY AT HIS SUPPOSED LEVEL IS NOTHING BUT CRIMINAL.

    • Civil Civil Habeas

      There is a big difference in Civil Law and Criminal law, Amen!!

      Especially when dealing with the laws of discovery. Pastor Long and many Pastors in this article is being treated as if they are criminal, under criminal laws. This is not a criminal law suit, but yet, I see discovery abuses of evidence and information. Our law system was adopted under England law. My research explained in my many Civil Habeas Corpus with the help of many law students of the University of Kentucky: clearly shows Congress giving the United States Supreme Court the powerful to make the necessary changes to protect our Civil law Systems, in the light of severe retaliation and abuses of civil law depriving one's right's under the Bill of Right's of proper fundamental fairness. Even if a Civil Habeas is necessary to protect our laws governing our Civil Law Systems.

      Truth me, all Plaintiffs and Defendants will suffer as my family, with the release of damaging information will only hinder any good heart Judge to stray away from laws protecting our civil law systems, without explanation of information released over the last months involving this Civil Suit.

      So let's pray for all involved, with-out passing judgement, which is a factual statement under Our Constitution, and the Holy Bible, Amen!!

      Yes Amen!!

      I am asking my Black Community to pray, love, and forgive all involved, if we want the United States Constitution to protect the Black Community in Civil litigation.

      This is not a Criminal Case.

  • Gail Fredrick

    Please read your Bible and you will see that God do not use men who lie with men to represent him OK. Sure he used imperfect men to accomplish his will , however they were righteous men. They had to change their ways if they were not. YOU can choose to close your eyes to those facts if you like but a blind man leading the blind they both fall into the pit. Jesus Christ set the pattern and no matter who you think you are. ONLY those who live up to the standards he set out in the Bible will get his Fathers approval. What this man is accused of doing, and he never denied it, is absolutely a shame and disgusting. Anyone have sympathy for his wife?

    God's high standards don't change for high fluting characters like Eddie Bishop, fleecing the flock and thats what really counts at the end of the day. READ YOUR BIBLES

  • beverly wolfe

    let go and let god

  • Big Cynt

    Hornbuckle was a pistol. Upon relocating to Texas, I looked for a church to call home. Went to his church one Sunday, the current week, he had gone to a business meeting to assist his members with the ability to purchase homes, low mortgage, etc. He opened the service in this manner. First the sic (First Lady) appeared, dressed to the nines, he spun her around, as if she was a trophy. (MY FIRST INKLING SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT HERE). She smiled, and took her seat next to his, on stage. Notice I said stage, to me this was all a drama. Then he proceeded to tell his members how he attended the meeting. He started like this, " I dressed to impressed. I put on my $75 socks, my $150 tie, my $1600 suit, just to make my members look good. Then, I couldn't decide which vehicle to take. So………. I decided to take one of my wife's cars. Once inside, I was cruising, looking all around, the chicks were checking me out, of course, then it hit me….Hmmm, I could not believe I paid $76,000 for her car……

    Anyway, once into the meeting, I arrived last of course. So that the loan folks could get the gist of how we roll……….Remember, I am representing you folks". On and on he went. OUT the door I went. Never to go there again. Low and behold, a year later, the spit hit the fan. He raped his best friends step daughter. She was supposed to be his God daughter….what a crock. During all this crap, an anonymous person posted is bond. He got out, got caught the next day with drugs in his car, and was not going to see the probation officer as he should have. Was sent back to jail. Guess who was the head minister while all this crap was going on… First Lady of course. This mess went on and on for weeks. At last, JAIL!

    This is not the first of the pastors who have come from T. D. Jakes ministry embroiled in mess. Another pastor here was proved to be gay, and married, committed suicide in a hotel here. Where was T.D. Jakes when these things happened. After all, they branched from his ministry. Anyway, it's a shame when you cannot practice what you preach. Why not quit when you know that what you are doing is not Godly? These pastors C H O O S E the direction they are headed, no ones fault but their own. NO, satan is not responsible, you are a man of God, and you are supposed to do as everyone else is to do and say, "the devil is a liar, and be gone satan". Get counseling, tell someone what you are going through. But NO, you choose to cheat, steal, rob, rape, etc….. As far as what Rev. Wright said about the USA, I commend him for taking the stand and saying exactly what should have been said when ignorant tail GWB got us into that mess with his lie. God will damn America if this crap keeps going on.

  • Beverly

    I think that we put preachers to higher than God himself! We have to remember they are human and man first!

  • Lainla

    FOLKS!!! Church is BIG BUSINESS and BLACK PEOPLE had better wake up and smell the DOLLARS!!!! WHY should a leader of the word need to live in mansions, drive bentleys, own yachts? When members of his/her own congregation can barely pay their utility bills and jobs in our communities today are scarce. What if these same ministers pooled together enough economical leverage to help offset the unemployment today as a way of using this to help heal the savage wall street corruption of this economy? Oh, no. They preach old testament stories and buy new materialistic valubles in the name of wealth. These guys are smart enough to see that they can preach their way out of poverty to a body of people who are CONVINCED they are men of God. PAY ATTENTION TO HOW THE MONEY IS APPROPRIATED, THE DEVIL IS RIGHT IN FRON T OF YOU. THE SAME WAY YOU EXPECT THE GOVERNMENT TO ASSURE SOCIAL SECURITY YOU SHOULD HOLD THESE HUMANS RESPONSIBLE. And then ask yoursel…are these ministers building schools? Employing qualified teachers? Offering scholarships? Do they care about Black History? Do they create businesses to create wealth and employ their own? Are they involved in some charitable cause to help Africa or the Caribbean or other's in need. NO. I'd be more comfortable with a person whose wealth wa acquired and spread around than one who can point to a number of cars, homes and lofting out in the ocean. If these minister profits can produce a better socieity for our people in a significant way and broad scale and you've got enough surplus to own a $15million dollar YACHT…maybe that's OKAY. But I still question: Why so much money for a yacht? Because you are spoiled, greedy and you've developed a narcisstic sense of entitlement that convinces you that God has blessed you. Otherwise, whose money is financing such privilege? God? Certainly not. The congregation? Bingo! Stop giving your money to these profit prophets! When your minister can live in a mansion and you go home to an apartment…oops! up side yo head! No wonder we later find that they divorce wives, engage in homosexuality and deny it, and can't turn over their financial records to the authorities. BLACK PEOPLE STOP BEING LEAD AROUND LIKE COW HERDS. SEE THE OBVIOUS, USE YOUR GOD GIVEN COMMONSENSE AND BRAIN AND TRUST YOUR OWN INTUITION TO KNOW WHEN SOMETHING AINT RIGHT! These ministers are in it for the MONEY!

  • miamac

    Can't be a man of God is expose 'white' racism. Racism in general, okay. But not 'white' only. Not Godly at all.

  • John G. Simms

    Rev. Long, Pope Benedict and many other leaders are among a long line of HIPOCRITS who have graced the temples of the Lord. It tasks the faithful, and most importantly our kids, to find solice and refuge in the one single place we peceive to be a shelter of safety and honesty.

    Yes, I am condeming Rev Long, Pope Benedict and others without undisputible proof of their alledged sexual acts, because a person who has accepted the 'gift' of public authority has the duty and responsiblity to eliminate any hint of inpropriety when it comes to acts of fadility and trust of our children.

    Yes, my mind is closed to any defense that any someone could congure up; because they are place in a position of authority; a position of trust and respect. As the old saying goes, "when much is given; much is expected!"

    Our society is in too much pain and termoil, to afford selfish act like those commited by Rev Long, Pope Benedict and other scandelous leaders to use their positions of authority to benefit evil.

    When one openly rails against acts they actively practice hypocratically in private; and continue to garner the trust, money and respect of the public, based of a a 'smoke and mirror' image; that person is a "Judus" who do not deserve the respect of any 'sane' person.

    The 'enemy' in not in tbe crackhouses, the dens of prostitution or even in the gang infested streets of the getto; he is in our churchs, the halls of congress, and in our schools. You see, the enemy is wise enough to know that he does not need to convert those who already believe; he needs to seek out those who are seeking to believe. So, what better place to position his diciples, but in our place of worship, where we educate our children, or in the halls of Congress, where we decide laws that determine wealthy and miserable.

    But hold fast to your faith believer; becasuse we will eventually forgive the preacher, the Pope, and all others who molest our children and dishonor our faith; because we are so desperate for leadership; except when it came to forgiving our Lord Jesus Christ!

    To the Rev. Long, Pope Benedict and any other leader who failed to completely comply with their duty of leadership-

    I say "Crusify Them"!

  • dhk

    What has mr wright done that was so bad to make this list and mr jackson did not appear at all. His scandal was the one for the century

  • miamac

    Velva, but in order to do these things you must have spiritual discernment and be willing to listen to God and not be led by your carnal desires. I agree with you, God will instruct you not to put yourself in these situations but if we're being honest, many of these 'so called' did not venture into these areas unwillingly. Let them ALL BE EXPOSED!

  • Cowboys

    16 years old and u call them consenting adults. I don't think very many 16 year olds are mature enough to be a consenting adult.

  • Mr. Thomas

    In your own ways, you all could be right or wrong, Bishop have decided to let courts decide. Smart I think….. Let's just pray for Him and His Family & Church, it hurts all involve.

  • DINAH

    I FEEL IT IS VERY SAD HOW THESE MEN

    ARE HAVEING SEX WITH OUR KIDS AND THESE ARE LEADERS OF THE CHURCH I DONT THINK SO YOU SO CALLED LEADERS NEEDS TO STEP DOWN AND LET SOME ELESE JUST MAY BE A MAN OF GOD I WILL SAY THIS WHY DO YOU SAY TO YOUR CHURCH TELL THEM UTS A SIN TO LAY DOWN WITH GAYS AND DOING THE SAME DAM THING YOU NASTY BASTARDS

  • david

    People…The only thing that is important in all of our lives is how we sit with god. That is all that matters in the end. Think of it this way..If God came to spend time with you would you take him to church with you, knowing that he hears and sees all? Would he judge you for what Dollar, Wright or anyone else did or is doing ? Would you spend your time telling him about them or would you spend every minute asking him how you are doing and what do you need to do better to be worthy to enter the Kingdom. Oh, by the way, God is with you everyday. You don't have to imagine it. Where have you taken him???? You had better focus on your walk because at the end of it all Dollar, Wright, Long or anyone else cannot and will not judge you….you are on your own. Better watch what you spend your time concentrating on.

    One more question, directed to those who allege that they were called……If God came to you and told you to go to a distant place and give a sermon would you ask him for money to get there or ask him for money to buy a new suite to preach or would you just go? What's with the salaries? You are actually charging God to do something that you should do freely, as he freely gave his son so that we may be washed of sin and given the opportunity to have eternal life and dwell in the kingdom forever and ever..AMEN. You guys can try to explain it but I will never understand it. How much faith do you have or do you have faith when and how it suites you? Hey people, remember Matthews…go in the closet and hit that PRIVATE line that he has for each of us, make a new connection and start over before it is too late….

    See you….Maybe

  • Leonie

    Let him without sin cast the first stone. How many of you follow the BIBLE. First of all these ministers have been teaching false doctrine for too long. Everyone follow the Ten Commandments yet leave out the 4th. KEEP THE SABBATH HOLY. Since, Pope Constantine change the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday 321AD. The early churches met on the Sabbath and collected their tithes and offering on Sunday. This is history and facts. So stop condemning since those who continue to be disobedient in the first place have sinned; if you break ONE you have broken all of them. WHO WILL YOU ALL CONTINUE TO SERVE GOD or man

  • Velva L. HIll

    Let us pray for the man of God, because none of have made to heaven yet. Be careful how you talk about the men of God

  • Helen

    Out of the 10 ministers you listed, Terry Hornbuck is the only one who meets the requirement to be room mate to Bishop eddie long……doping and raping 3 women…he'll be released in 2020……….

    God help us all

  • JAMES

    17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. 18 For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward. 19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but beforec two or three witnesses.  20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.  22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men’s sins: keep thyself pure.

  • Erick Williams

    Eddie Long is Gay, I know a person who has had a homesexual relationship with him. I did not see this happen but I know it to be true.

  • coast cooker

    MY GRAND FATHER IS A PREACHER AND HE IS THE BIGGEST CON MAN I'VE EVER SEEN. HE HAS 6 CHILDREN BY 5 WOMEN.AS YOU CAN SEE I DISLIKE HIM.

  • payne

    IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK, ITS A DUCK

    • Christina

      I agree with payne if on person say it… ummmmmm but more than one lets take a closer look…. walk like a duck guess what quack quack… He put his self out there now he's going to answer to a higher power…….

  • Gwen

    God is calling all true children of God who can hear His voice out of the buildings made with hands, the local churches. The church has been being corrupted since the Prosperity movement moved in back in the late 60s and seventies. This is the reason so many god-fearing Christians have been leaving the church never to return. We see through the facade of Greed and piety that preachers are teaching today and want no part of the lie. The churches hold people captive by saying "forsake not the assembly of yourselves together." This one scripture has blindsided many and led many to follow a false doctrine like the fellowship is what will save them and not Jesus Christ by Grace through Faith..

  • joan

    The authentic "Body of Believers" are not necessarily found in brick and mortar…remember…where two or more gather in His name…there He is in the midst. Let's grow and let's worship our Heavenly Father in spirit and in truth…read our Bibles…pray…meditate upon His Word…and, yes, gather together with those who REALLY believe in Him and who want to be His true disciples. THERE'S MUCH WORK TO BE DONE.

  • http://thatit bernice

    I do not know this man but who am I to say that he did this or not IT NOT MY CALLING IT GOD he known the ture and when he lay down at night he know that he will have to live with his self and get up and look hisself in that mirror he know what it will be him and god !!!!!!!!.

  • carla

    why do you people think these guy's just picked bishop out of the clear blue sky to target him just for fun????

    • rod

      I'm not forming an opinion, but 1 Cor 4:5 says "the Lord will bring to ligth the hidden things of darkness"

    • Mary Meleschi

      SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY ARE ABOVE MANS LAW AND THAT THEIR MONEY AND POSITION EARNS THEM CERTAIN RIGHTS TO BREAK THE LAW BUT GUESS WHAT NO MAN HAS THE RIGHT NOR SHALL HE GET AWAY WITH BREAKING GODS LAWS AND THATS A SELF FULLILLING PROPHECY. CARMA IS REAL. GOD KEEP US ALL

  • Sojourner

    Be not deceived, GOD is not mocked, whatever you sow you shall reap , more than sowed and reap longer than you think , sometimes to the next generation paraphrased

  • Lisa Johnson

    Men and Women of God we must not lose heart in the Gospel of Jesus Christ because of the greed and materialism of Church leader's. I believe we have put these people on such a pedestool due to our lack of 1 reading the Word and studying the word of God for ourselve's and 2 just wanting to fit in to a Church being apart of something. I fear with so much negative press involving our Brother in Christ Bishop Long, a christian that is not rooted and grounded in the word of God may and can fall prey to these new age religions not to mention Islam. Now is the time instead of being distracted by satan himself we should be praying and not just for the Bishop or those in Church leadership but for the Saint's of The Almighty God who is not in the public forefront who are everyday Saint's like you and I. Ephesians 1:16-22

    • Smokey

      We need to study the word, and be do'ers of the word and not do'ers of man.

  • Sable T.

    This is so sad to me! Because people who really needs to connect with Jesus will have this to consider. And it's taking away the true purpose of what a Christian is suppose to be doing with their life and how we should reflect the spirit of Christ in us. I'm not happy about any of this! It's not a laughing matter, or one that I care to judge anyone on. I just pray that whatever the truth may be, that healing will come, and lessons learn from this experience. God is the one that everybody must stand in front of and give an account for all that they say and do. We all need to look at our own lives and ask God to reveal our dirt and help us to clean up our own messes. And as people of color, we should remember what the elders have said, that our behavior reflects us all, and we should try harder everyday to do our best, and become better role models for our each other and our children….

  • Marie

    Where are the white ministers? There have been just as many of them. If you are going to report do a better job of being inclusive of all wrong doers.

  • artis

    i i'm not a person that who beleave that i have to go to church to be saved.the things that go on in church's today are a little to far out for me,if i do not get saved my soul is going to hell as a lot of u may say,some of u is hard to deal with here in this state of being since a lot of u have got it going on as u may think u have, lot of u do not no how to treat any one but yourself,god help those who help themself,yes i got it, greed.i will keep up the good work of being me and not something that this pastor and other's tell me i should be i have what god our creator gave me.a brain

  • Hollie

    PIMPS IN THE PULPIT!! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY

    ARE…JAKES, JACKSON,BRYANT,LONG,DOLLAR,AND

    MANY MANY MORE. HOWEVER, NOT JEREMIAH WRIGHT,

    WHO TOLD THE TRUTH! THE PIMPS IN THE PULPIT ARE

    NOT ONLY BLACK, WHITE AND OTHER ETHNICITIES AS

    WELL, SWAGGART, BENNIE(WHATEVER HIS LAST NAME IS),TED, AND MANY MORE. IF YOU WANT TO GET CLOSE TO GOD, GO TO A LITTLE CHURCH. THERE IS WERE YOU FIND REAL MINISTERS AND CLERGY!!! LONG NEEDS TO LEAVE AS WELL AS THE OTHER PIMPS.

  • shut yo mouth

    Each opne of these mens, are still flesh! FLESH is subject to sin. Let God judge these and their sins. There is none perfect but God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We all have sin and fell short of the glory of God, but the News you need to be reporting today is that God is faithful and just to FORGIVE! He said he will deal with those that he call, and those that say they were call have not, and use this to lead his people astray! LET GOD DO HIS JOB! Shut yo mouth on this subject! GOD is on the Throne not YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK GOD for that blessing!!!!!!!!!! AMEN!

    • Bren

      Thank you Shut yo mouth….

      • Mary Meleschi

        SOME OF U UNDERCOVER BROTHERS NEED TO SHUT YOUR MOUTH FOR REAL SOME OF US KEEP IT REAL AND SOME OF US ARE TO DUMB TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. ITS CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECE DUMMINIES. DON'T HATE SHUT YOUR MOUTHS BROTHERS CAUSE IF U WOULD HAVE KEPT YOUR MOUTHS SHUT IN THE FIRST PLACE WE WOULDN'T BE HAVIN THIS COMBATIVE COMMUNICATION. DAAAAAA

        GET IT. BOO YA THE SONG SAYS GO TELL IT. EVERY THING HAPPENS FOR A REASON LIKE IT OR SHUT YOUR OWN MOUTH AND KEEP IT CLOSED UNTIL SOMETHING SENSIBLE COMES OUT OF IT. IF THE TRUTH HURTS THEN SHUT YOUR MOUTH.

        • Arletha

          No offense sister, but you need spellcheck…But before you tell someone to shut up..Check yourself.. fool.

    • miamac

      While I agree that God will deal with and judge any person who misrepresents themselves, I too encourage people to pray for them but too to get to know God in a real way by reading for yourselves and not putting man on a pedestal. Nobody belongs in an upright, exalted position but God.

  • ANGIE

    Eddie there are some things that you should do.

    1. confess if you are guilty.

    2. Ask for forgiveness

    3. Step down from the pulpit.

    4. Seek some professional help

    5. Divorce your family

    6. Go to a deserted Island where you will live the rest of your

    days lonely.

    • Mary Meleschi

      Many prophets found themselves in the Desert, not a bad ideal. Character is what you are in the Dark and the Man who Fears No Truths has Nothing to Lose. the True Superior Man Stands erect by bending Above the Fallen. He rises by lifting others UP not by causing them to Fall down. Leaders of the Christian Faith are suppose to be Held to a Higher Standard of Conduct and serve as examples to encourage the masses. Well I hope people don't really accept the old excuse 'THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT" FREE WILL AND CHOICE WE ALL HAVE BEEN GIVEN IT. I AGREE WITH YOU AND WE CAN ALL AGREE TO DISAGREE BUT YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO CHASE DOWN A LIE. . KEEP ON TALKIN AT LEAST ONE GOOD THING PEOPLE THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL. WAKE UP EVERYBODY ITS TIME TO FACE A NEW DAY. PEOPLE GET READY THEIR IS A TRAIN A COMIND, WHATS GOING ON, A NEW WORLD ORDER, ALL THESE BROTHERS EVEN TUPAC HAD A MESSAGE CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

  • cbendy

    There are and there will always be false preachers and teachers, however, I feel that what the True and Living God wants His people to know, he will plant it in their hearts and minds. You know right from wrong, but the wheat will grow up with the traff. Good and Evil those conexist, but there will be a day of seperation. Now all have sinned and come short is what my copy of the Bible reads, therefore as humans we are not perfect and no matter who it is or what position they hold or their station in this life, they are not and cannot be perfect. We make idols of men who are clay just as we are. The true Church that Jesus founded is built on a Himself and is spiritual. His life examples while here on earth were for us to follow and live peacefully among all men. You follow me, said the Paul as I follow Christ, but if you do not know Christ's teachings you can not hear his voice through His word and you will follow whatever tickles your fanacy. You will not follow Him except when your life issues become issues you cannot handle. Then you cling to his every Word especially the forgivness part. You see, the physical church gatherings are an excercise in socialism, but it is a necessary excercise because the gatherings give hope to those without. Well, I don't know if any of what I have said makes sense, but Let the Church be the Church. Let the Church get right and go Home. God said He would take care of His Church and that means anyone claiming a part in it. So, if those people who are called by my Name would humble themselves, pray, turn from their wicked ways (And God knows we all have wicked ways because man's heart is evil continually) Then and only then will our God (Because you may have a different one) will hear from Heaven (a blessed state of mind) and Heal the Land. That is a promise from God to His people, but because men love darkness rather than light our condition is not likely to change any time soon, so there is no reason to blame anyone but each one of ourselves for the pitiful state we are in.

  • Alexander Ivory

    Will all who is making comments about pastors and their wealth please read Mark 10:25

    • miamac

      Since I know many will not go look up this particular scripture as they do not want to be forced fed, what it states is that the 'rich man' will not get into heaven. But so you know God is speaking on the worldly rich; those who make money their Gods.

    • Sam Wilson

      YOU NEED TO GET THE FULL UNDERDSTANDING OF MARK 10:25…THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE IS A PLACE…CHECK YOUR HISTORY AND GEOGRAPHY…

  • Stop hitting snooze

    You missed one – William S. Epps over at the Historic Second Baptist Church in Los Angeles is kicking up dirt too. Sadly, it is landing on fresh graves of many of his elderly members.
    http://www.wavenewspapers.com/news/local/west-edi

  • tom

    when these scandles break out it show that these church members are attach to the preacher rather than god , because armagedom is coming to get rid of such ones off , the earth for jah to turn it into a paridise

  • James

    Black people are not "misguided." People regardless of color do need to connect with God themselves, but they are to remain in connection with Him by being a part of the local body of believers…"The Church." Heb. 10:25

  • Anonymous

    Anyone that reads their bible from start to finish will not buy into phoney preachers with their God wants you rich unsound doctrine. Even if Long is innocent their teaching mostly promotes greed and materialism.

    They all need to read how the Lord's real Apostles were martyr and persecuted for spreading the Gospel of the Cross (not greed or for monetary gain). A good place to start would be

    Acts 20:33-34

    "I have not wanted anyone's gold or silver. You know that these hands of mine have worked to supply my own needs and even the needs of those who were with me".

  • John

    My poor misguided black people 1st your home land then your very soul and ability to connect yourselfs with what is truth given to all at birth put in our hearts and souls by whatever created us. You can call it what you will.We must stop putting these men in such high regards.God speaks to us in quiet places not in these theaters we have created and call church Ect. which are nothing more than social clubs.And money pits God has no use for you cash!

    • mancha de platano

      John, clap clap clap………..god has no use for cash

    • joan

      Agree wholeheartedly. I have ceased referring to my self as "Christian". We have lost all that is sacred and holy re Jehovah …about our wonderful Savior, Y'shua–Jesus the Christ, and the Holy Spirit. The Gospel industry is just that–an entertainment industry. Churches have become venues for that entertainment. I AM A BELIEVER IN AND A FOLLOWER OF JESUS, THE CHRIST. Let's move on and build the Kingdom of God.

      • maru-chan

        Co-sign!

  • Rico

    I've known the Price family since I was a kid. I went to school with his son. They have been swimming in money since I was in elementary school. I had plans to go to college, his son had plans to be a preacher. He's ballin now, and I make under 80Ka year. Who was smarter.

    • mancha de platano

      So, you wanna be a sociopath, is that it? Becasue that is what these men are. James, may none of my family run into you for nothing. The man is going to prison, get it? He is a monster, and that is what you are, or becoming. Do you also take children's lives from them. How insane are you? That would expose who you are like htis in here.

      Don't you that you will be investigagted?

    • ugo.

      Mr. Rico! I think you are confused. How in the world could you compare the art of ministry to money, job and being wiser? First of all, you should not go into the ministry because of money (read your Bible). The ministry, secondly, is not just a job; it is more than a job. You get paid because you have to survive and also, feed your family. What is there in this temporary world that you have to think rich? What about rich in humanitarian accomplishments? This is what will survive you through the impending end of evil/Satan and his network of associates. I don't care if you live to be 100 years today, it will never be equated with that never-ending live that awaits you thereafter. WAKE UP! People, smell the rat! This is the end of times: Satanic preachers will manifest from everywhere, camouflaging the obedience of God, with the grandest disposition imaginable. It is up to you to open up your eyes, and like an experience surgeon, dissect the obvious to come out in victory. God is not going to judge you in light of your pastors. He gave you the eyes to see, and the brain to obtain and apply common sense. Think about it! Read the bible, and please, don't try to change the wordings, because you want to be contemporary or create your own followers. God has thought about you before he made the bible.

      • miamac

        sorry but feeding your family doesn't require extreme wealth that you made off of (cough) preaching. I understand why Rico think the preacher's son career or game is a better deal. Worldly riches is worldly thinking but isn't that what is going on with these mega-businesses/churches? You were right that you 'shouldn't compare' the two, but I understand why he's comparing the two; they are one and the same.

  • http://karenzach.com karen

    The false teachings of the Gospel of Greed is being preached by a goodly share of white preachers, the most eggregious of all, however, is David Cerullo. Read about him in Will Jesus Buy Me a Double-Wide?

    • DONALD

      IT IS TIME TO PUT THESE PEOPLE IN JAIL WHERE THEY BELONG

      • Marcia Kia Simpson-J

        And your point is?

        • Marcia Kia Simpson-J

          Donald, this remark is not aimed at you. I agree with your sentiments. It was meant for the woman below who went for hours and didn't say anything meaningful. 'Gods Child'. She could put anyone off religion.

    • mancha de platano

      They all will face JUS_US, the cleaning lady is is in the room!

  • Sandy

    Put your faith in God and not man…please understand everyone that stands in the pulpit is NOT anointed by God!! If this were true they would live modestly and give back to everyone in the church! They wouldn't have mansions while some of their church members can't pay their utility bills. Please, most of these bishops and pastors are homosexuals. I am not surprised at all. Stop being so blind as if these people are above being human…

    • jay brown

      amen!

    • ANGIE

      Sandy I agree with you 100% the bible tells us that there will be false prophets and this is a good example of a false one ( Eddie ) Come on New Birth please wake up!!! It's as if Eddie has brainwashed you all into believing he's above GOD!!! Don't let this turn into another Jim Jones.

    • miamac

      We do not have all the facts on Mr. Eddie Long or the others but if we are honest, we can say there is indeed a problem going on in churches across the nation. It doesn’t matter if it is black or white or green; there is indeed a problem. Holiness for many has been replaced by the mighty dollar. God will not be mocked. He will reveal the truth but will the people open their eyes and see? Some people are so desperate for worldly hope that they are worshipping these men/women of the altar. Church in so many ways have become nothing more than a club.

      The thing is the church is not the doggone building people! It is the people that God called the ‘church.’ It IS NOT the place of your salvation; Jesus is and He wants to take residence in YOU, not a building. Church is a place where we gather to be of one accord and to worship God and be strengthened from sharing the hearing of the word and from the strength of each other’s faith.

      You don’t need a $2.5 million (or more) facility to achieve this! Overspending is being a bad steward! In the Bible (that these so called preach or read from), Jesus instructed his disciplines to leave (or sell) everything and follow him. I don’t recall reading that He built expensive, over priced facilities to teach in. His words were more valuable than any building could house Him.

      Simply, church has become a business (not all, but you know what I’m saying). These mega-ministries are profiting in anyway they can, i.e. tv, books, speaking engagements, online, in church, etc. and wrapping it up in “self profit.” No, you are profiting off of God’s word since that is why people listen to you – because of your religious status. Something is wrong people! This is not of God and I don’t care who tells you otherwise. At the end of the day it should be about winning souls over to Christ so they too can have their own personal relationship with Him and Hear from Him, themselves. But instead, people lean on these people to ‘read’ the word to them instead of them picking up the Bible and reading themselves. Yes, He said

      ‘faith comes from hearing the word … but He too said study to prove thy self’. He wanted you to ‘read for yourself’ to know it was real and to know Him in a real way. Now many take that one scripture out of context to manipulate you into thinking if you don’t go to the (church) building and yes, bring your money, you cannot be saved. This is simply a lie!

      I hope God tear down these worldly kingdoms (because that’s what they have become). What makes them different from any worldly swindler? Please tell me!! Is it because they use God’s word to do it??

      Yes, I’m praying for God to EXPOSE THEM ALL! Haven't you noticed that while many 'may say' that folks are still being saved (since they, oops, join church and their church membership is growing), THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT STAYING OR LIVING SAVED?? Going to the club (oops, some churches) have become a ritual and that is not of God!

      • Jo mcCall

        I would just like for some one to tell me, who made thease prechers like Long and

        dollar rich ?? we did by taking our tiths to the church , why because we do beleive in God and he said we should giuve a tenth of our earnings to the chgurch, but I always understood that the tithes weas to help the poor and needy, permote Gods word to the uttermost parts of the earth, so how do the ministers like Dollar get planes live high have estates while most of his congraugation have little to go on? only the preacher gets rich not the ones whos paying the tithes?

      • http://www.pamsheppard.com Pam Sheppard

        Your prayer has already been answered, My Sistah. Five years ago, I saw in a dream that ONE mega Afro American mega preacher would fall and that the rest would follow likw dominoes. To know more, I suggest you read "COME OUT OF HER, GOD'S PEOPLE. It can be found at http://www.pamsheppard.com/bookstore.
        KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN AND STAY STRONG.

    • miamac

      Someone should pat you on the back because you said a mouthful! Modest is the key word here. Modest. Not using guilt as a weapon to prey upon people and empty their pockets so they can finance their lifestyle, including their own carnal visions of big churches, private jets, big feed the hungry projects that bring them prestige and yes, more money. Get real people! Something is wrong in Zion!!!

  • Ebony

    Im sorry…. I dont understand what Reverend Jeremiah Wright said that wasnt completely true……

    • Dwight

      What? What reverend Wright said was completely true do you know your history?

    • miamac

      To paint a clearer picture …. you need to understand that these ministers, bishops, etc. are SUPPOSED TO BE representing Christ when they are behind these altars or in these religious positions. So … having said that … do you think Christ, who loves ALL MANKIND, would have same the very same thing as Rev. Wright and exactly in the way he said it??

  • James

    Come on, let's practice our due diligence before running our stories. Wright did not incite controversy or doubt. He preached the truth about Americanity vs. Christianity and was thrown under the bus because it was politically expedient to do so. He DID NOT make headlines for being a sexual deviant, robbing anyone, or doing anything illegal.

  • b.lover

    @ angel ur words where perfect wit scriptures to back. I just find it amazing tht eddie long has preached sermons for yrs!!! And nobody has ever come to me "listen to his word or did you hear this" etc, but countless *some tht don't even do "church" are talking about this. How evil; and then spreading the gossip. I don't know what he has or hasn't done. I know one thing for sure its not for me to touch,judge or even have the nerve to formulate opinon about it. Furthermore all of these pastors are the chosen MESSENGERS!! Not christ if u want to look for perfect in anyone you will loose everytime.

    • Smokey

      God didn't pick Eddie Long. God doesn't make mistakes. Eddid Long is self proclaimed.

    • Anointed1

      Yall are so funny to me… don't be distracted REAL Saints of GOD. COnstinue to mediate in the word day and night for our delight is in the law of the Lord. I'm concerned at this back and forth dialoge… Everyone has on opion and everyone wants to be right. Remembe the bible says "lean not to your own understanding" lets us all continue to study, pray and and talk to God. The Holy Ghost always reveal all truth. If anyone has been angered or ignited by certain peoples comments, I encourage you to pray and ask God to search your heart and remove anything that is unlike Him.

      We are not suppose to be going back and forth yall. This makes us all (Christians) look bad. If God has blessed the public forum to be seen nation wide, lets use it to spead the gospel of Jesus Christ and to minister to unsaved souls. God is comin back for a church with out a spot or a blemish. Will you be ready???

  • Gabbie

    Get your facts straight before printing stories!!!! First off it's Frederick K C Price, not K S. Secondly, he didn't agree to be a part of 20/20. They used the video, out of context without his knowledge. Maybe u should do some research of your own before you get sued as well!

    • freedom

      I feel sorry for you. Do you honestly think a man of GOD is coercing boys to have sex with him and denying it? God says do not put your trust in man, which is something you have clearly done. You have elevated him to a saint, when he is clearly not. You pray, then leave your children around him. Don't be stupid, do you really think that none of that man's money's coming from your tithes? I love math because it always add up. Do you think that your pastor is making a fortune just selling books, and he's only heard of in ATL. I don't know a creflo dollar, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

      • miamac

        I hope you are being sarcastic because it happens. So called 'men of God' (and women) have made such mistakes and any human is subject to sin. Just because we were a label doesn't mean we don't make mistakes under this label. I personally was assaulted by a well-known minister (who has since died). I was very young at the time and thank God I was able to kick him you know where and escape. While it didn't turn me away from God, it let me know these persons are just humans and to NEVER, EVER put my trust in man but rather in the God in them. Get it?

  • Angel

    That was not a scandel. Pastor Dollar makes his earnings of of his own best sellers and publications. Not to mention he has also tithed…He is now reaping the harvest that is due to him…I will continue to tithe into his church. I also think as the body of Christ we need to pray for Bishop Eddie long and everyone involved. The mocking and shameful behavior of people is baffeling whether on not you beilive he's done wrong…pray and cover him…the word says do not toucheth the annoited of God. Belive it or not Bishop is annointed and he was called into ministery so many lives have been saved over the years under fellowship. Allow God to bring for the Justice upone whom ever is wrong in the situtation. God Bless

    • jay brown

      Not everyone that has a church is called and onointed. Not every mega church is blessed, and not because a pastor has a lot of money means he is blessed…Black people wake up, stop associating money with being blessed!!! as christian we should judge those that are in the church..I heard dollar said that himself….any pastor that tell people they are not blessed and will never received from God unless they tithe. Will be help accountable, for God blesses who He pleases. Futhermore the tithe was not hang on a Cross Jesus was. Your tithe will not give you salvation… God GIVES US SALVATION through JESUS CHRIST. so if you thing your tithe is going to save you thing again….give God the glory not what you give so you will not boast…Is the only reason you go to church is to give money so you can get money that is insane!!!! any one can give money to a church even a drug dealer, does that mean he is blessed and save and a poor person that live a holy life and PUTS GOD FIRST is not blessed because they do not have money to give…get my point…ask your pastor to give his money to the poor then we can talk………

      • Mrz. Roc

        You are so right. I had a friend a mine say the other day when she was playing "The lotto" God now you know i pay my Tithes every week I know I can win this one. It makes me soooo mad just listening to her also sayin this morning that she cant miss church today cause she havent been in two sundays and she want to get that chysler 300 (SMH) I dont sit up in church every sunday and I have missed paying my tithes but God blesses me when i wake up in the morning and I also have my wonderful family I dont have much but I work and enjoy my job that I have been blessed wit, sometimes money be the very thing that will mess up a happy and blessed home some things we have and dont have is for a reason. And these preachers need to stop selling hope cause you got people buying it like crazy!!!! Read your Bible and know matter where you are aalways acknowledege the man most high thats what he wants he dont want your money he want your love for him. Wake up people you sleeping way to hard you cant buy your way to heven.

    • ANGIE

      The bible also say obey the laws of the land which Eddie has obvious broken, not mention Eddie has broken GOD laws. We all have sinned and has fallen short of the glory of GOD, but to repeatedly do it over and over? Eddie knows GOD words and refuse to obey them. You all need to sto worshipping Eddie and worship GOD. Eddie needs to step down from the pulpit. Final and last how would you feel had these young men been your son or grandsons?

      • steven

        right on brother – u hit the nail on the head

    • Pretas

      @angel….Angel first of all..and this isnt an attack…The Bible does not say you should pray for everyone…also who said that all of these people are of God? And annointed by God? What do you mean believe it or not? Prove it? Every tree bears its fruit..but please know what type of tree it is before you call an apple an orange. do you even know Long is a Mason? Creflo thats not his name dollar is one too..Its scary how blind and misled people are by getting half verses and twisted sermons sometimes. As the body of Christ we are supposed to judge each other and our actions within…we cannot and should not judge the world (1 chor 5:9-13)

      Anyway just a thought………

    • Mary Meleschi

      People get a life, the internet has been bogged down with Eddie Long. If we spend more time focusing on our own salvation in place of trying to stone Eddie, God says. "Let a man examine HIMSELF" God will judge HIM and not in the media He knows this. Why don't we all take this ENGERY expended upon HIM and do something to show LOVE and HELP our brothers and sisters in NEED our neighbors. Read Isaiah chapt 58 v 10-12 I CHALLEGE ALL READERS TO RESPOND TO THIS……………………..

    • THERESA

      I AGREE WITH ANGEL. HE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. MY PRAYS ARE FOR ALL

    • blackbeauty

      I would like to say that I totally agree with what you said, becuase mostly I do. I would also have to say that even most Christians would agree but in the back of our minds we are only thinking the worst for this type of offense. You are right in that he was called by God and believe me his true judgement will come from our God. There should be prayer cover even if we don't like the crime…its the same as praying for your enemies. LETS PRAY FOR COMPASSION IN OUR HEARTS. Blessings.

    • I'mnotgullible

      MY QUESTION IS WHO ANOINTED THESE PREACHERS?

      STUDY ABOUT TITHING! GOD TOLD US TO GIVE OUR OFFERINGS FREELY. THAT'S WHY THE WOMAN WHO GAVE A PENNY WAS TRULY BLESSED. THE POINT IS SHE NEEDED THE 90% TO LIVE. THE PENNY IS WHAT SHE HAD LEFT TO GIVE FROM HER HEART. WAKE UP BLACK FOLKS OR YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BE CRYING ABOUT WHY YOU DON'T HAVE "NO MONEY"!

      • Zuru Roho

        In Malachi: chp 2; V 1-4 it is speaking of the Cleargymen to give their tithes. Don't get caught up in Malachi chp 3; V 8-10.

      • Smokey

        God had nothing to do with this. His anointing was not Eddie Long, if so, he would not have dome these things. Look at him he's still lying about it. Instead of coming forward and naming all the boys he's hurt; repent; ask for their forgiveness as well as Gods. What's done in the dark, will always come to light. If God kicked the devil out of heaven, he would not have ordained Eddie Long, knowing what was in his heart.

    • MAE

      I have to agree with you on everthing you've said. To much is going on and everyone is trying to cover up the wrong. He did wrong and will be judge by 'God' but we can't continue to try to act as if this paster did nothing wrong. He's not the victim the ones he made have sex or had sex with is the ones who's the victim.

    • miamac

      God can use a donkey to speak the word so that man can be saved. It is not the vessel that is 'saving people' but the Word that brings salavation! I'm not judging Creflo or any of the others but I am saying, read the Bible for yourself and get to know God yourself and you will learn that a lot, and I mean a lot, of these people are making money off of the Word. It doesn't matter if it is publications, online, speaking engagements, etc. if indeed the very root is founded upon their position as a religious figure. Do you get it???

    • Carol

      It's unfortunate that many preachers are called and don't wait to become totally sanctified and cleaned for service before they start preaching/pastoring. If they would wait and make sure that they stay clean, they wouldn 't have to apologize for their acts of the flesh: greed, sexual affairs, and molestation. I'm ok with mega churches just as long as the wealth is spread throughout the church. No one in those churches should be hurting for money. Some of the money should go toward helping those less fortunate in the congregation – especially if they pay their tithes. Ministers are in place to help explain the word through the revelation of the Holy Ghost, but regular lay members need to also seek God for themselves in prayer and ask for God for revelation of the Word so that when the Word comes across from the pulpit is just confirmation of what God has already told them. That would keep them from sleeping with their pastor because they would know that he/she is acting against God's Word.

      • Smokey

        The problem is with the calling! These men are called by men, and not by God. God wants men who have gone thru the fire and come out ready to dedicate their lives to him. Does that sound like Eddie Long.

    • lorraine

      YOU SAID THAT THE CHURCH IS FILLED UP WITH WOMAN WITH HUSBAND AND OLD WOMAN. MY QUESTION TO YOU ARE YOU A FATHER AND DO YOU ATTEND WORSHIP SERVICE WITH YOUR FAMILY? WHERE ARE MEN IN THE BLACK FAMILY? MOST OF THEM IN PRISION ARE ON THERE WAY. OUR YOUUNG MEN 12TO 20 WHERE ARE THE FATHER THAT NEED TO BE THERE ROLE MODEL YES THERE WOMAN IN THE CHURCH BE THE ONE WHO HAVE HUSBAND WANT NO PART OF GOD. THEIR GOD IS THE SOFAAND THE FOOTBALL GAME ON SUNDAYOR WASHING THEIR CA.R INSTEAD OF STANDING UP AND BE THE HEAD GOD WANT HIM TO BE.

    • Gail

      Reply: "That was not a scandel. Pastor Dollar" I wasn't commenting about Pastor Dollar!

    • Cynthia

      Called to ministry?? this proves that you do not know the Bible. God called saints in the old testiment to ministry. No one was called under the new law. If you desire to follow in Jesus's foot steph than that is your choice. We are all considered ministers if we are doing His will. It is not sitting in the build 90% of the time and not going out into the world proclaming the gospel. 95% of black churces are guilty of not obeying what were asked to do. We go to the building, sing, clap, stomp and shout, pay our money and go homes until the next Sunday. When will we ever learn enough on Sunday morning, in Sunday school adn bible study to take our traing beyond the walls of the buildings? When will we stop particpating in fundraising as in going from church to chruch, passing by poor people and celebrating each other in anniversaries. What about a Jesus anniversity or a members anniversy?

    • Jackie "B"

      Angel…I can plainly see you are a true follower and you are lost. No I dont tithed to the church I tithed to the poor and needy. I'm not giving my hard earned money the LORD blessed me with to give to some "PIMP PREACHER" You say it's to the church, but what does the church consist of, mostly the head of the church,THE PIMP. Keep titheding all your blessing to a PIMP.Stop following a man that's equal to you. I know who I am and who I belong to,and I have a personal relationship with him I don't need to join no social gathering tell all my business give all my money to no strange CULT. Stop smelling up behind these PIMP'S, and put ALL your trust in the ALL MIGHTY.

    • Smokey

      I agree with you, with regards to Mr. Longs. anointing, if he was truly anointed by God, he would not have fallen to this extent. He would have been convicted by his own workk and not continued to mocked God the way he has. I'm sute before this is over there will to be more victims than we can believe possible. This looks like the work of the enemy.

      "An enemy has does this."

    • ENUFF

      HE pays tithes?????TO WHO???HIMSELF!!!AS LONG AS GULLIABLE PEOPLE LIKE YOU KEEP GIVING THEM MONEY THERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE SNAKES IN THE PULPIT!!!!WAKE UP FALSE RELIGION WILL FALL..GET OUT FROM HER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SHARE IN HER DESTRUCTION111

  • Reverend B.

    The spelling is "altar" not "alter." And how did Dr. Wright get in this list. What was so scandalous about his preaching?

    • yep yep

      I was thinking the same thing. Is he on the list because his words made white folks feel uneasy, in return that made some Black folks feel embarrassed-get over the Stockholm syndrome. lmao

      • Bill Gray

        What about Rev. Lyons (I think this is his name), the once head of the Southern Baptist Churh. He committed adultery used church funds to finance extra marital affair including buying a house for his mistress. The house burned down, he was exposeed, fired and jailed.

        • BOLINGO K

          WHAT ABOUT ELIJAH MUHAMMAD

          • mancha de platano

            Bolingo, yes your right, him too………He was a pedohpile. It seems they take very young girls, school them to trust, then the admire you, then you can take them ontrips, boys too. Before you know, they love you, gee……….Trust from a child is sagrada.

            He then can watch them grow and keep feeding till he makes the move to seduce, she's now maybe 12, 14, 16…….Only if he/she can fool them into submission, which is coresion or qhat I call quite rape

        • Kelly

          Dr. Lyons was the President of the National Baptist Convention USA, INC., not the Southern Baptist. He served his time and is out preaching the word.

      • miamac

        I wish these people can just clothe themselves in the label of motivational speakers. You cannot represent God with ungodly words. Attacking 'white' people is not of God. Speaking on sin, regardless of race, is different. This person came across a racist. I don't want to serve a racist God. sorry.

        • Julia

          How did Creflo make any racist comments? Because he speeks positive and prosperity in this world and the next doesn’t mean he’s racist. Is he being investigated because of his message or his prosperity or his financial status? Why Is a rich black man a threat? and to (WHO)?

      • Ed

        Juanita Bynum is not even a college graduate. Referring to herself as "Doctor" is insulting to people who take their academic studies seriously and work hard to achieve success in their studies.

        • pinkladee

          AMEN!

          • susie jenkins

            Sweetie have you ever heard of a doctorate in divinity. Be careful what you say amen to.

      • DLO

        Pastor Wright is not too far off the mark, America does not embrace all of it's citizens. Look at what the muslim community is dealing with. White folks don;t like hearing the truth about themselves. God Damn America!

    • carol

      Reverend Wright's current wife was previously married and her and former husband went to Wright for marriage counselling. Of course they were not able to patch their marriage but guess who she wind up marrying shortly thereafter????

      I do love his preaching though….

      • miamac

        But this is the problem. "I do love his preaching though?" What the heck! This is why these warped persons who say they are so called by God get away with their mess. Worse is that they are leaders, examples for others and you wonder why churches are soaked in sin? Why people who supposedly get saved or not staying saved or living a saved life? Why should they when the very person who is acting as their spiritual advisor, leader, father, etc. etc. is showing them how to live worldly in acts but profess Christ with their mouth. Shut them down by walking away. Don't plant your feet on unholy ground. period. Anybody can talk the talk. Even the devil (according to the Bible) knows scripture but he cannot live Holy. So anybody can be a convincing speaker. I mean, it is not like the Word doesn't speak for itself. They are just reading and presenting it in their or vernacular or style.

        • chuck

          I'm new to this so forgive me…………. MIAMAC I dont know you but you are so right………….

        • TONEE

          Much ado about nothing!

      • BOLINGO K

        I’M GLAD TO SEE THAT NOT ALL OF YOUFELL FOR THE ATTEMPTED CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OF REV WRIGHT. THE MAN SIMPLY DID HIS JOB AND PREACH THE WORD. THE BIBLE IS FULL OF EXAMPLES OF GOD RESCINDING A BLESSING OR DAMNING A GROUP OF PEOPLE…[1st & 2nd KINGS}. WHEN GOD BLESSED A KINGDOM AND THEY FAILED TO DO RIGHT BY GOD, HE DID IN FACT DAMN THAT KINGDOM. DON’T KILL THE MESSENGER. REV WRIGHT WAS POINTING OUT THAT AMERICA WAS A BLESSED KINGDOM AND WE ALL SING ABOUT THIS BLESSING OF AMBER WAVES OF GRAIN AND PURPLE MOUNTAINS MAJESTIES FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA; AND IF WE CONTINUE TO DO WRONG IN THE SIGHT OF GOD{ ie. invading foreign lands and bombing innocent people and calling it casualties of war} then, GLESS AMERICA CAN EASILY BECOME GOD DAMN AMERICA. IT’S A PREACHER’S JOB TO POINT TO POTENTIAL PITFALLS AND KEEP FOLKS FROM FOLLOWING THE WRONG PATH. DON’T KILL THE MESSENGER, HE’S ONLY DOING HIS JOB . IT’S THOSE OTHER FALSE TEACHERS WHO CALL THEMSELVES MINISTERS OF GOD’S WORD, YET FAILED TO ENDORSE THE RIGHTEOUS REV WRIGHT, WHO SHOULD BE CASTIGATED

        • Gia

          Talk about doing wrong. What about abortion…when God says I knew you before you were formed…and we kill millions every year because "a woman's right to decide" is more important than someone who has no voice's right to live…and have you forgotten 911…you know it took us 50 years to forget Pearl Harbor but not long to forget 911…

          • Gia

            Moderation you mean censorship don't you.

          • MR JAY

            AMEN, I AGREE WHOLE HEARDEDLY

          • BARBARA

            WHEN WE ALL READ AND UNDERSTAND GOD'S WORD THAT HE ONLY BUILD ONE CHURCH MATT.16 :18 CHRIST CHURCH IN 13 AD. ALL THE REST WAS FOUNDED BY MAN AND IF TIS NOT IN THE WORD WELL.ALSO THE CHURCH OFCHRIST IS NOT INC.

      • Marcia Kia Simpson-J

        It seems that he counselled her straight into his bed!

        • deb

          ONLY ONE CHURCH !!!! that what the word says when u do it in order u dont have to worry about MESS!!!

        • msauners

          He who is without sin are tp cast the first stone. He is not the first pastor to fall [be accused] and he is not the last one to fall. There are others who have not got caught. The pastor have to repent [to have a change of heart not to want to do the sin again] and ask God to forgive him and that is what God requires. The point is not whether man will forgive you is not important.

      • mancha de platano

        and your point is? He cheated, right, or are you saying alleged. Narcissist, do cheat, lie, and do not have empthy for othere, never. Go to UTube and search Narcissist, they have a lot of professionls. DR. and mentel healthy workers. Knownledge is power, which means you won't be able to be fooled again by one. they are charlatons, they cna change their whole manner, just to suit your mentally of what is or appears to be right in your eye, not their eyes, yours….Check out what is a Narcissist.

        The Americana AMA, says %75 male Americans are Narcissist. %25 percent are American woman. that equates to about 2 million woman living next door, down the block, on your job, or just in your own family. most families today, have one, or are manking one into a Narcissist, yes parents make them. they are the first to teach.

    • Mother_Evangelist

      The spellings should be defined if you are going to comment on the diff of "alter and altar

      Altar- is a raised structure or place for many were builded in deserted places…on which one could offer sacrifices, worship, praise, requests, or their lives toward God…or others..their gods.

      Alter- To make different without changing into something else…as to alter a dress or suit.

      God would have us to see in the mis-spelling as you have taken note of…Men/women who have altered the altar…that will preach…God Bless

      • book chapter verse

        That Dog Will HUNT !! ISA. 28:15 2 tim 4:3 isa 30:10

    • mancha de platano

      Good Morning

      Alta, is the real word, coming from Spanish. People prononuce it htinking in english. The origin is Spanish, Altar. The english word Alter is incoorect, really, by people never question what is before them sometimes……Have a inspiried day.

      Peace

      • Corie

        Please check your spelling

    • oldergurl

      i've followed and believed more than half out of the list of ten.

      t.d. jakes is the only one who wasn't there. thank God for small miracles. altho i like dollar, i've always wondered if that is his birth name or his 'street' name to coincide with his profit ministry.

      things are not looking well for the black christian communites. soon we will be left to teach ourselves.

      :-/

      • Loretta

        I could not agree more, let God. God is well capable of handling things. Let God Be God! and we keep silent about things we don't know diddly about. Only God knows the spirit of a Man. He knows the intents of the heart. People talked about Jesus Christ and all he did was good and the Pharisees said he cast out devils by the Beelzebub the prince of devils. Therefore, rest assured there are people that will like what you do and there are people who will find something wrong with you do. No one can please everyone. If you have not learn that about yourself. Keep on living!

      • lorraine barnes

        I disagree with you Almighty God will alway and i say ALWAYS have a man or woman who will stand up and be real. because i am one of them.wHEN SATAN WENT TO GOD AND IBEENALL OVER THE WORLD LOOKING FOR A MAN AND GOD SAID HAVE YOU TIRED MY SERVANT JOB 1:6-12 BUT READING THE WHOLE FIRST CHAPTER IS GOOD TO READ

      • Dani

        Creflo A Dollar is his birth name. He's named after his father.

    • smuthlvr

      In my opioion to use the word damn as the Rev Wright used it is just wrong period God has called us to peace and not fighting against each other. On Crefalo Dollar why not saying that i agree with him but since nothing was proven we can assume that what was said about him was jealousy pure and simple.

    • be easy

      the scandal is that he got two of the women in flock pregnant please review the divorce papers…

    • Thamar Hinton

      Paster or Rev Wright is a true Man of GOD please dont be mistaken,He's the only paster that tells his members every sunday no matter where he is,that he loves them,he the only paster that truly teach us how to be like chris and not judge us or throw stone at his memebers,i love that man and what he stands for,he's very intellingent,and the white folks couldnt touch him LOL,GOD is Good people,get to know him well,read the bible for yourself please.

      • miamac

        Are you following Christ? If so, how in earth can you speak as divided against men the way you do? I'm talking the blatant racism. If you are speaking from flesh then I understand. But if you want to say that the 'so called preacher' is teaching you things, the same preacher who should be representing Christ, then just in reading your comments there is indeed a problem!

        • Marcia Kia Simpson-J

          Explain what you mean.

    • dhk

      where is Jesse Jackson in all this , how so soon we forget that he was using chuch money at the tune of 10,000 a month to pay for a mistress. Is this not the scandal of the century and he missed this list

      • Smokey

        Maybe his keeping his mouth shut. He's always putting donw his own people, while the truth be told, he's as guilty as the people he talks about. He needs to spend sometime asking God to forgive him instead of putting down others.

      • nellis

        What church? Jesse does not pastor a church. Get your facts straight before you post.

    • J.C.

      We have to acknowledge that people are people and we all have some faults. A man is a man first, before he see himself in true light. His mistakes is a teacher in his life. Now! we all have to ask God for forgiveness in something that we do, by word deed or thought. The Devil is a liar and we can make him out to be just what he is.

    • Jackie W

      Please pick up a dictionary Rev. B

      Alter and Altar are TWO different words with different meanings. Smh

      • virginia regulus

        I understand all your comments, facts or personal opinions.

        Majority of black folk that attend church donot study the "HOLY BIBLE" Bishop Eddie Long, if found guilty should suffer like the boys he molested. Truth is this, God called Moses to the mountaintop and gave him the Ten Commandments. God also gave Moses additional laws for the Israelites to follow. The Ten Commandments teach basic morality.The First Four teaches us how to have a good relationship with God. The next six teaches us how to have a good relationship with other people. Please, take time and study them.(Exodus 20: 3 – 17) Bishop Eddie Long and his entire congregation needs to go back and study "GOD"s Laws" Not Eddie Long's. He will suffer the consequences forever.

      • Jackie "B"

        Altar-Alter Whatever…Get To The Facts…He's A Pimp Preacher

      • Jackie "B"

        ALTER …ALTAR…"WHATEVER"…Get To The Fact That He's A Homo and a PIMP.

    • E. Solomon

      When as a people will we learn, that GOD gave his only begotten Son, that we as a people could be saved. Just think about GOD and JESUS forgiveing all of us for whatever we do. GOD will be the judge, not man. Read your bible!!!

    • Jackie "B"

      ALTER,ALTAR…The spelling is not important the facts are. The scandalous part of the story is he's a FAG.and a so called PIMP..and you followers are following him. You put more trust in him than the "ALL MIGHTY"

    • Rev. A

      What about Rev. Jesse Jackson, who among other things, took his pregnant mistress to the White House to counsel President Clinton about the president's sexual infidelity.

    • Barb

      How about J. D. Husband, Church of God in Christ?

    • J.R. ISOM

      Bishop Hezekiah Walker with whom I've had the opportunity of being a member of LFT for 5yrs. and a member of one of his 7 chior's "Rhema Chior….." Lord Do It. This man is a true man of God and doesn't deserve to be talked about period. It's because of him that I got saved and through him I've become a better person. It seems as though you only attack the "Black Clergy Men" Why not the White Clergy or are you affraid of what and who is what they too claim to be. Have a blessed day and remember these words " Because God Is The Greatest Power, We Will Not Be Defeated "

    • MIDDLEMYATT

      Agreed. Wright is perhaps the only minister who doesn't belong on the list. The others, flamboyant tailored suits, Bentleys, bank-accounts-bulging-at-the-expense-of-their-beguiled-flocks and all, would do well to listen to his sound advice and advice and counsel.

    • Maggie Mae

      He got ton the ::LIST"" by tellling the TRUTH that is a deadly sin in America, Especially if Anglo Saxons are concerned, and please stop calling those pinl skin folk white folk,they love that , with out spot or blemish, and they have plenty of bothhahahah

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